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Title: Murray woman charged after letting cat lie on front lawn
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FOX 13, Salt Lake City
URL Source: https://fox13now.com/2019/06/26/mur ... letting-cat-lay-on-front-lawn/
Published: Jun 27, 2019
Author: Elle Thomas
Post Date: 2019-10-02 10:23:29 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 9092
Comments: 156
MURRAY, Utah – A Utah woman wants to see change after an antiquated ordinance led her to receive misdemeanor charges for allowing her cat to lie on their front lawn. When Kate Anderson was first approached by animal control, she thought something terrible had happened to their cat. Then, the officer gave her a citation, carrying the weight of two misdemeanor charges, for letting her cat lie on their own lawn. “Milo, come here!” Anderson said as she made kissy noises to her cat while it laid on their front lawn. In the Anderson household, Milo is treated like family. “He’s got a cat door, so he just comes and goes and is a cat,” Anderson said. However, they never expected their furry feline would be the reason they were slapped with misdemeanor charges. “There he is, back at the scene of the crime,” Anderson laughed as her cat came near her and laid on the lawn. On Monday, Kate said Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn – someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it. “I just got a ticket for my cat being outside, in my yard,” Anderson said in disbelief. An animal control employee received the report and made a house call to Kate’s Murray home. They then wrote her a citation. “This is a cat who is neutered and micro-chipped and vaccinated, and is not a menace to society,” Anderson said. Kate lifted up the ordinance and started to explain what it said, “That’s telling me I have to call for my court date… for my misdemeanors… of having my cat outside.” Two charges were listed on the citation, both Class B misdemeanors. The first for having an ‘animal at large,’ the second for ‘not having an animal license attached.’ “Like a fugitive. Like robbed a bank,” she said after reading the phrase ‘at large’ out loud. Based on the Murray city ordinance, which was enacted in 1963, it is illegal for any animal, house cats included, to run at large. The ordinance reads in part: “It is unlawful for the owner or person having charge, care, custody or control of any animal to allow such animal at any time to run at large. The owner or person charged with responsibility of an animal found running loose shall be strictly liable for a violation of this section and for any injury to a person or another animal, or property damage caused by such animal running at large, regardless of the precautions taken to prevent the escape of the animal and regardless of whether the owner or person charged with responsibility knows that the animal is running at large." Murray City goes on to define ‘at large’ as anytime an animal is not on a leash, confined to a vehicle or secured in the yard. Even if the animal is on the owner’s property, Murray City defines them as ‘at large’ unless there is adequate protection to ensure other’s safety, there also must be a warning given, to let individuals know the animal is there. “I don’t think most people think it is illegal to let your cat outside under any circumstance,” Anderson said. “It sounded like the ordinance was kept vague for a reason so if there are strange circumstances, they can do something about that, but this just feels like animal control being out of control,” Anderson said. The City Attorney for Murray, G.L. Critchfield, told FOX 13 that while Milo being on the lawn was technically a violation, they have filed a motion to dismiss the charges, considering how minor the violation is. While prosecutors did tell Kate, that they would not be following through with the charges, she said she does not know what to do considering her cat is an indoor/outdoor animal. “It’s definitely antiquated, I think if anything, there needs to be some kind of addition or amendment to the ordinance excluding felines,” Anderson said. Critchfield said they do not foresee any amendments being made to the ordinance as it stands, to allow a broad coverage of any animals they encounter.
Poster Comment: At least the doggie cop didn't "fear for his life" and shoot the kitty. On Monday, Kate said Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn – someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it. What kind of asshole does that? I can imagine Gatlin, the self appointed Gladys Kravitzu in his gated community maybe.
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Why? Because she just so happens to own one? "Fuck you and your dog. I want an amendment that protects ME."
You better watch out misterwhite! This is what the ole antichrist will be doing to you when he comes to town!
Too late
'What kind of man gives cigarettes to trees?'
What kind of asshole does that? People with no life. I don't have a cat because my HOA ruled that cats outside must be on a leash. I hate HOAs. One person complains and the other 585 homes have to suffer.
HOAs are the worst places to live IMHO. Some of them won't even let you fly an American flag, and as you said, it only takes one Gladys Kravitz to make the rest of the residents miserable.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. It is not completely unsurprising to me that you constantly think about me and find that you use fantasizing as a means of giving yourself an illusion transference of greatness while you project yourself as being me in order to satisfy the wonderfully great emotional experience that you crave, albeit through a mere illusion. You have indeed mentioned before that you often fantasize about me. But I fear that you may now do it more often that you realize. And it could be that your fantasizes about me have gone so far that that they have now become a natural part of your human psyche – thereby letting them totally eclipse your ability to engage in reality. It is because of this that I am here now to tell you that you letting me get control of your mind can actually become a dire problem with some pretty serious side-effects. You need to get over your projections and concentrate of your personal development. For comprehensive research has found that those who have the healthiest personalities rank low in neuroticism, high in openness to new experiences, and low in their tendency to fantasize are the individuals who best succeed in life. Your over-reliance on abductive reasoning and the complete sacrifice of more powerful logical tools, make your irrelevant conclusions suspect at very best. Without context and association to actuality the looks are always deceiving. We today find ourselves living in a sarcastic society where the use of sarcasm is almost everywhere. Sarcasm can be an underhand compliment, a snarky retort, or a curt jibe. People often use sarcasm to vent their unhappiness. I fear the latter reflects your situtiaon. Salute,
For when you buy in you do so knowing full well that you are expected to follow the rules like everyone else and not just the rules you like and want to follow. If a homeowner does not like some resident violating the conditions set forth in HOA community regulations and rules, the homeowner has the right to require the HOA to enforce the community regulations and rules or to commence a legal action against an HOA that refuses to take enforcement action, remove a member, or members, of the board of the directors of the HOA, or amend the terms of the governing documents. Unfortunately, each of these options is typically time consuming, expensive, and difficult. So there are some who simply prefer to bitch on a chit-chat forum about having to follow regulations and rules they agreed subscribed to in the first place. Some people have a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that their existence is senseless and useless while their way to get status among other complainers is to be the most negative and that is what you were doing here, Decard - Right? Things never go good for you as evidenced by the fact that you are constantly complaining about one thing or another. Sad - Ever si sad ... Salute,
Salute,
This was the “second” citation issued against her and that was the “weight” of two misdemeanor charges. Salute,
So? In the Anderson household do they except family to be treated with impunity and be exempted from punishment and have the freedom from injurious consequences for their actions when they violate laws? Judging from this article, that appears to be the case … Salute,
This means what? Salute,
Ignorantia juris non excusat is the age old legal principle holding that a person who is unaware of a law may not escape liability for violating that law merely because one was unaware of its content. Salute,
She expressed happiness at violating the law and paying the fines. So, what’s the problem here? Salute,
For the law does not exempt a cat that is “neutered and micro-chipped and vaccinated.” Neither does a cat have to be declared not “a menace to society” for you to be exempt from the law. Salute,
Salute,
This article nos state there were two charges on the same citation. Not that will result in any difference in the fine she will pay – I suppose. Salute,
“Drama Queen” She is stealing your thunder – Deckard. Salute,
No Shit !!! Then what is the reason for this article … Salute,
“It is unlawful for the owner or person having charge, care, custody or control of any animal to allow such animal at any time to run at large. No need to post that here. Tattoo it in her brain. Salute,
“It sounded like the ordinance was kept vague for a reason so if there are strange circumstances, they can do something about that, but this just feels like animal control being out of control,” Anderson said. Nah, it sounds more all the time that this woman was a classmate of yours, Deckard, since her limited speed of though processing and inability to sequence rational ideas appear to be the same as yours. Salute,
OMG … Glory be … Cue the song: Compassion from a law enforcement official. Did you ever – EVER – think you would live to see that day? Gpd Bless America … Salute,
That was fun, Deckard. I look forward to doing this again sometime … Salute,
Delusional.
I have a cat.... and it NEVER is allowed outside, that’s how they shit in other people’s back yards, get in neighborhood trash and get FLATTENED by cars... and as of the last 20 years or so, many states, after being pressured by PETA-like assholes (that’s anyone that doesn’t realize that a dog and cat are animals, BELOW us humans) to make it mandatory for a motor vehicle operator to STOP and report when you hit a fucking cat. Well... if you feel you need a cat, then keep the kritter in your house... or are you one of those special libertarian assholes that feel your freedoms are more important than mine?
Cats belong outside with the birds and bees.
Delusional. Yes, I definitely agree that he is delusional . If not delusional, then maybe psychotic. What better explanation can be given to the fact that he “imagines” seeing me while his “thinking” about me in an article about a cat he posted – Where he stated: See … I take this opportunity to say: A bright and cheery Good Morning to you, Sir. Salute,
An asshole who needs to be dealt with.
Kooky.
Why? So that they can continue eat up all of the birds – While I don’t know about the bees? While “your outdoor cats” are definitely a human-caused problem, it appears you don’t give a shit about finding ways to address it – when you take the approach of just letting cats run wild and continue to “kill 1.3–4 billion birds and 6.3–22.3 billion mammals each year.” Stone, you are delusional … Salute,
Salute,
An asshole who needs to be dealt with. You pass judgments and state opinions on these stories when you only read what one person is reporting and never know the “story behind the story.” Who knows … When one neighbor finally gave her a dose of her own medicine and called the authorities on a law she was violating. I don’t know the story behind the story posted here. But I do know that there usually more to the stories than we are ever told here in these wildly extreme examples of cop-hating and anti-government articles posted on LF by Deckard. Salute,
Yet the next fifteen posts are made by you, directly to me, each and every one them a long winded screed about (predictably) how "rules are rules" and (predictably) filled with personal attacks and insults to: Deckard. Think about that.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. An asshole who needs to be dealt with. How about her calling the cops on her neighbor because her grass is an inch too high - boy-howdee! I tell you what. Gatlin would be all over that one in a heartbeat. It's a cat on a woman's own PRIVATE PROPERTY. Gatin responded predictably - quite a personally revealing insight into the philosophy and mindset of the poster known as "Gatlin. I noticed Gatlin doing a little channeling of other infamous posters. Some misterwhite rhetoric in posts 8 and 10, doing an impression of nolu spam in post 12. Gomer Pyle (huh?) at #15, a couple more of whitey... The rest was typical Gatlin bilge.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. LOL !!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
I'd call the SWAT team just for those kissy noises. LOL
Not a Libertarian. Live in the desert, so there isn't much for cats to dig up. It's just one more abusive action by an out of control HOA. Sorry, but I'm not a fan of them. Many of these type rules have appeared since we bought a property in the complex. Those were common sense rules to keep up property values. We should have rights that should not be infringed. We pay the mortgage, we own the land, we contribute to the upkeep of our village. Certain sensable rules are one thing, overstepping personal rights are another. One man complained about common property bushes. A few buds fell off over his wall. literally, a few. They lined the blvds and streets. That resulted in them cutting down every tree and bush. We now have ugly large boulders instead of nice green beauty to look at along our streets. Talk about devaluing a property! It's now ugly, an eyesore. I'm sorry, but one complaint should not have the right to penalize the rest of us. Put such up for a vote. Everyone was super p*zzed off about it. It ruined the complex. Took away pleasant visages all because of a one man who was a renter, not a property owner. I constantly pick up debris that the wind blows around. Pine needles when the pines are 100s of feet from my property. Stange, non-indiginous weeds that pop up. It's just part of living among people. I pull them up and clean up the needles. No big deal. I won't have a cat that has to live it's entire life inside. Animals have needs also. They belong outdoors as much as humans do. It's cruel to keep an animal from normal habitats.
If you feel you need a cat, as a “pet”... and your “pet” enters my yard, expect me to treat it like I do birds and bees on my property. I kill them.
Then don’t buy a fucking house, with one attached. I’m not a fan either, but I understand the concept of them. So, since I possess the ability to AVOID getting in one, by having the fucking CHOICE not to get in one, then I don’t have the need to fucking state, I’d have a cat, but my neighbors won’t allow my cat to shit in their fucking planters. How rude of them.
HOW TO GET OVER DISAPPOINTMENT.
What a weird twisted thing for a "law enforcement" officer to say. You would be video taped arrested and jailed. Then doxxed. Then i'd kick your ass.
How often to you engage in this criminal behavior?
Excellent question. If you are my neighbor, and you allow your cat to trespass on my property, and killing your cat is illegal where we live, then I guess I’m a fucking criminal. The real question is this.... your little pet won’t ever be found. There will be no witnesses or video. So, how often do you engage in endangering your kitty’s life, behavior? Not smart to gamble with your poor puddy-tats life... if you love it. I NULLIFY your stupid cat protection law... just like you nullify laws you don’t like.
2) arrested and jailed. 3) Then doxxed. 4) Then i'd kick your ass. 1) Perfectly legal to leave an antifreeze soaked fish, in my lawn. Video tape it. Without the fish, you can just guess how your putty was poisoned. 2) You need probable cause... good luck finding ANYONE that will autopsy a cat. lol 3) Doxxed? What are you a fucking snowflake? You speak like Greta Thunberg. You plan on allowing your cat to trespass, just so you can tape me hurting it, so you can “dox” me? What a liberal asshole thing to do. 4) In your fucking dreams. You’re an over sensitized putty-tat lover... and a UFC champion? Ha.
Do you even have a cat? 'Cuz I don't think you do.
Well lookie here - we got us one of them real-life internet tough-guys. (insert golf clap here.) You know, I read some studies that many cops abused animals in their yout and that many cops still continue that abhorrent practice into adulthood (many cops never actually become adults but I digress.) Abusing animals is another thing they have in common with many serial killers. Any first hand experience there Son of Sam? ...and a UFC champion? UFC: gayest sport ever, favorite of keyboard commandos, Internet tough guys and Alonzo Harris wannabes.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. I would also like to read them. Salute,
Salute,
Why do you have a place you hide bodies?
https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/first-they-tortured-animals-then-they- turned-to-humans https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/domestic-violence-animal- cruelty-abuse-neglect-murder-children-dogs-a9018071.html This one is from the cops so you better look at it. https://cops.usdoj.gov/html/dispatch/04-2019/animal_cruelty.html https://ndaa.org/wp-content/uploads/The-Link-Monograph-2014-3.pdf Do you like killing peoples pets like Grandisland does?
What, are you Joe Pesci? lol
When people INTEND to commit crimes, they should get 10 times the prison sentence they got. GrandIsland posted on 2019-10-03 17:39:35 ET So you should receive 10 times the sentence since it would have been on purpose. Or should you spend no time since you have a hiding place to dispose of dead bodies? Are you special and shouldn't get any punishment for crimes you would commit? So you admit that you commit crimes. Do you think someone who goes around killing peoples pets should be a law enforcement officer or work in prisons?
I showed the article showed this. No he was pointing out the fact that serial killers like to do things like leave fish out with antifreeze in it.
Just for trespassers and inconsiderate LIBERALterian assholes. Stone, it’s important that you KNOW, that your freedoms END, when your FREEDOMS INFRINGE UPON MY FREEDOMS. So, you have the LIBERALterian freedoms to own a filthy cat. I have the FREEDOM to not have cat shit on my property... if you allow your FREEDOM to enter my property AND it infringes upon my freedoms, your freedom cat is in DANGER. Doesn’t have anything to do with “serial killers”, being a “tough guy”... or even being a bad cop that needs “doxxed”. It has everything to do with not infringing upon the freedoms of YOUR FUCKING PEERS. Don’t be a Dicktard.... where only YOUR freedom is important because you are the most important person you know.
I’d like you to site an example, but for shits & giggles, I’ll grant you your Adam Schiff like presumptive bias allegations. If a serial killer kills cats, it’s because he enjoys or gets an emotional benefit from killing cats. I’ll kill your cat, if it trespasses on my property, TO GET RELIEF FROM YOUR CAT VICTIMIZING ME. If you weren’t a Paultard, you might understand this concept. Now, like the liberals, you and Dicktard can carry on with your PRESUMPTIVE BIAS, continual character assassinations if anyone that has ever posted here (or LP), that doesn’t fall in line with what you can tolerate. You have been watching what the evil left has been doing to Trump, haven’t you? You’ve focused on HOW they’ve been deceiving the SHEEP, with their tactics? ARE YOU FUCKING SMART ENOUGH TO LOOK BACK AT ALL THE PAULTARD POSTS AND REALIZE THAT YOUR PAULTARDS HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME SHIT HERE? And you’ve allowed it. I should start calling you CNN for hosting such douchebaggary.
Only in your Paultard self important mind, would you think I have to allow your cat to shit on my property... without recourse. Typical drug loving Paultard. You’re the most important person you know... but your fucking cat will know better. lol
Post links to show “where many serial killers” abuse animals. Thank you for responding to my improperly worded post. My post is now corrected to read: Or is this yet another of your made-up malicious charges? Stone, I am not finding this: https://cops.usdoj.gov/html/dispatch/04-2019/animal_cruelty.html https://ndaa.org/wp-content/uploads/The-Link-Monograph-2014-3.pdf Can you please do a hot link of post the exactly worded title and than I probably be able to locate it. Thanks … Salute,
I gotta tell ya, Gatlin. I didn’t think Stone was as Paultarded, as the drug lovers... but like Goldi, he’s a cat loving Paultard fucking freak. No wonder he allows his fellow Paultards to treat him like shit, verbally, then tell them not to do something like post lying articles... then he flip flops. He’s Goldi. lol
Intentionally killing an owned cat is prohibited in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. https://www.alleycat.org/our-work/cats-and-the-law/state-laws/ You don't have a right to kill anyones cat. But you would. You would break the law you have sworn to uphold. The proper thing to do is call animal control not go around killing pets. It's a douchebag thing to do. How many cats have you killed? I guarantee you a cat walked on your property. So tell us how many cats you have killed.
https://cops.usdoj.gov/html/dispatch/04-2019/animal_cruelty.html
I like cats, dogs, birds, fish, squirrels, rabbits, and mother nature in general. Also there is no such thing as a Paultard that is just what some retard made up because they couldn't handle someone with a different view then them. Keep using the term if you want but it makes you look dumb.
Yes you have to take it. Or call animal control. Or go to jail. Those are your choices. I don't think you would last in jail. Even the county jail.
You better get someone to help you. I cut and pasted your link and it works just fine.
Gatlin, don’t believe Stones Adam Schiff like presumptive BIAS. I am a cat owner. I’ve owned a cat for 10 years. lol The difference is, my cat is not allowed outside, so it doesn’t victimize my neighbors. Same reason there are laws against dogs roaming. Stone feels he has the freedom to let his kitty, shit on my property (probably because he’s a lazy fucking scumbag that lives his cats attention, but is too fucking lazy to feed or clean a litter box) so because he’s the most fucking important Paultard he knows, his cat can shit on my property... with impunity. And if I don’t like this, I’m a fucking cat killing serial killer that should get “doxxed”. Haaaa I submit to you, that HOA’s WERE INVENTED BECAUSE OF ASSHOLES LIKE STONE. HAAAAA
Actually, many states allow a property owner to kill any animal (even your domestic asshole kitty) if it trespasses upon another’s property and harms or harasses that property owners livestock. Like my little baby chickens that your asshole cat was harming.
There are no laws against cats roaming. There are laws against killing roaming cats and it includes jail time in every state. So quit peddling bullshit like you have a right to kill someones pet. If you killed my pet I would definitely kick your ass. No doubt about it. Not just you any person who did that would get their ass kicked. Just like you would do if someone illegally killed your pet.
Says the Paultard. The tough animal hugging Paultard. lol
You can call animal control and not act like a nut job killing peoples pets. That is just kooky. So if I want you to obey the law i'm a Paultard. That is some lame brain thinking.
You see, that’s another Adam Schiff trait. Hypocrisy for your own AGENDA. It’s unlawful to kill your cat (because there are laws) but if I do, you’ll kick my ass (and their are laws against assault). You’re like the (D)’s... impeaching Clinton is wrong... but we’re gonna impeach Trump from day one. Quid Pro Joe did no wrong, but Trump needs to be investigated for pointing it out. Listen up, cat, doggie, birds and bees lover, your liberal Paultard ass isn’t built for fighting someone like me. keep your fucking animals off my property... or you won’t have them to hug. lol
I shouldn’t have to call animal control. Where do you think your fucking scumbag cat shits, when a lazy asshole like you, let’s it roam? Just in your yard? lol Fuck you. You don’t want your cat dead, LEASH IT or keep it in your house. YOU CALL ANIMAL CONTROL when you can’t find your fucking cat no more.
Little piggy above the law?
Only if you want your Little kitty below the ground
I bet if your employer knew of your views you would be fired on the spot. You are acting like an insane person. Is it because you are insane? There has been cats on your yard. How many have you killed. 10, 20? I still let dirty cops post here too.
This is great. You just keep doubling down on stupid. You have proved that you are unfit to be an officer of the law. You will break the law and hide the evidence. You're not better than a ghetto crack whore.
Stone is just being stone – Or is Stone just being Deckard? Often times it is hard for me to distinguish between them. I have to look down at the name in the “from” line to see which one is which. If there are two more narrow-minded and biased individuals anywhere – I surely hope to never run across them. Salute,
You know how many times Schiff, Nader and Pelosi used the same bullshit quote, in the last year, to further their AGENDA? CNN uses the same bullshit presumptive BIAS tactics that PAULTARDS invented.
Where’s the popcorn … Salute,
Not true. Crack whores would understand that their cats shit on their neighbors, if they are lazy crack whores, and let their livestock roam. You’re just an ignorant Paultard. The most important (and evidently the toughest) person you know.
It’s not hard to get a Paultard going. Did you se Di Nero? He’s a self important asshole like Stone. The most important people they know. How DARE YOU NOT ALLOW MY CAT TO SHIT ON YOUR PROPERTY. lol
CNN uses the same bullshit presumptive BIAS tactics that PAULTARDS invented. You are diverting like a good liberal. It is in fact illegal and you said you would do it. Bad cop no donut.
Yeah you really got me going. You just exposed yourself as law breaker who doesn't care about the law. Can you give me your bosses address so I can see if he agrees with your sadistic views?
I’m curious … Do you ever follow the conversations along in the posts – or do you just suddenly appear on the thread and grab onto a post and shoot your mouth off? Your immature responses to posts lead me to believe the latter. I will try not to make mistakes in my future posts and make every attempt to dumb them down to your intelligence level. Salute,
Ain’t no human being as stupid as Dicktard... but Stone might be close, taking this ideological position on his self importance. You know, he’s so fucking important, that his cat should roam, and I need to call animal control to report WHAT HE ALREADY KNOWS... his cat is shitting on my property. THEN, animal control will say, sorry sir, there are no laws regarding leashing a cat (unless it’s in an HOA).... so you have to take it up the tail pipe... and when I take matters in my own hands, because STONE is too self important to do something, then I’m accused of being “above the law” Doxx him. lol
You have now become ridiculously funny. Salute,
Your immature responses to posts lead me to believe the latter. I will try not to make mistakes in my future posts and make every attempt to dumb them down to your intelligence level. Uh you can't cut and paste the address in your browser. It is easy I did it and the link worked just fine. Now go study it and get back to GrandIsland and warn him to obey the law and not kill no cats. I bet you are to much of a pussy to answer this question. Lets see. Do you agree with Grand lunatic that killing cats is his right? Are you as kooky as him? Are you going to defend that behavior? If you do defend it is is something your wife would be proud of?
Good. Great. I’m a law breaker who doesn't care about the law. I don’t give a fuck what a Paultard thinks of me. YOULL PROBABLY FLIP FLOP ON THE ISSUE NEXT WEEK, MR. MATT AGONIST. lol Now keep your fucking livestock OFF my property, if you don’t want to lose your kitty.
An enjoyable morning. Thanks for the laughs. Salute,
Just follow the law or go to jail and get beat up. Well you would get beat up in jail. Just like I would kick your ass if you illegally harmed my pet.
Anytime. Stone might remove it. If he does, start calling him DICK-Tater and DICK-tard. Two DICKS’ in a pod.
Cats are legally allowed to roam. If they cause damage to your car you can sue in court. If you want them off your property you can call animal control and they will remove them. If you go kooky and kill someones pet you will go to jail and maybe have your asshole enlarged. Then when you get out I will kick your ass. Then I will tell you not to tell anyone or I will kick it again. :). I'll let you live but you will be bruised up.
Don’t make your situation worse, Paultard... or your doggie will be sleeping with your kitty.... and the guys at hunting camp will have a cornucopia of slim-Jim’s to eat in their tree stands... killing the roaming animals.
Exactly which question of the 4 questions is it that you want me to answer? Salute,
I am more important that you are. I'm also better, stronger and more handsome. Funnier too.
I’m nullifying you’re civil laws. You should understand that, Paultard. You made this bed after you shit in it... now sleep in it. lol
Do you agree with Grand lunatic that killing cats is his right?
But you might be cat-less lol
Salute,
You can do that on a jury if you like. But you aren't on the jury in this scenario. you are the defendant on trial on the news that murdered my poor little girls pet.
The real question would be... do you think Gatlin would let his cat shit on his neighbors? Obviously NOT. He doesn’t sit on here complaining that he can’t grow weeds in his front yard... because he cares about his neighbors freedoms as much as he cares about HIS FREEDOMS. You Paultards aren’t built to think like that.
This is the real Stone. I'm for obeying the law. So Gatlin is ok with breaking the law and killing peoples pets. I do think your wife would be ashamed of you if she knew you support people killing peoples pets because a cat walked in their yard. It is illegal Gatlin. But I guess you are a phoney and don't care about the law. Afterall you did admit you were a liar yesterday or the day before.
I can’t be in the jury of my own civil trial, dumb shit. Have you been hitting DICKtards drug nullifying law bong?
Nope I don't think like you. I wouldn't kill my neighbors pet because it walked in my yard. Or even if it shit in my yard. That isn't what sane people do. That is what serial killer types do when they are kids. Your buddy Gatlin supports you and thinks it is a good thing to kill peoples cats if they roam on your yard.
Then how are you going to nullify it dumb piggy.
And if it is proven that it did happen – then what, if any, justification there was for it. Logic can be your best friend, Stone – if only you will let it be … Salute,
Besides, you Paultards treat Gatlin like shit... you have nerve. lol I’m surprised he still posts in LIBERTY FLIP FLOP FLAME. I’ve lost interest with your Paultard flip flops.
By nullifying your dumb kitty. lol No more problem.
What a lamer. He said he would do it. Do you support that or are you a pussy and don't want to offend your would be feline killing friend.
I am not going to bother with it anymore, For knowing you, it didn’t mean shit anyway. Salute,
Leave or stay the choice is yours. I understand if you are embarrassed by your kook posts today and want to slither away. But you said you weren't coming back a few other times before too.
It was a page from the department of justice saying people who think like Grand Island are often serial killers. No I don't think Grand Island is a serial killer. But his thoughts and ideas on this subject are wrong and illegal. Not the thought itself but if he carried them out.
Salute, Gatlin At least I made you take off your mask and drop all the phoney Stone you are my friend and I respect you bullshit.
Now, one last word, because I’ve got shit to do. I’m about to put my dog, IN MY FENCED IN BACK YARD, so she can take a PAULTARD. I don’t restrict my fucking dog to staying inside my yard BECAUSE OF LAWS. I DO IT BECAUSE ITS THE CONSIDERATE THING TO DO. Same ideology with my CAT (which I do own as well) When you stop being a self important Paultard, you will understand that your cat doesn’t have fucking constitutional rights, on my property. If you truly love your kitty, you won’t let it roam to be hit by a car... or a casualty to my very QUIET compound bow. lol
What a lamer. Hello … SAYING is not DOING. Your really do have a problem with logic. Whew … You just said “would be feline killing” “Would be?” Hmmm … Salute,
In all 50 states cats are allowed to roam on your ward. The birds an the bees too. In all 50 states the actions you advocate are illegal and will land you in jail. Quit taking the criminal side and quit acting like a kook.
Pussy boy. He has a right to say it. He doesn't have a right to do it. So you agree that it is good to kill cats for walking on your yard. You're an idiot too then. You are to afraid to answer the question.. bock bock
“Would be?” Yep it would be. From now on don't answer any hypothetical questions because i might delete them since you wont answer mine because it will hurt your little friends feelings.
Nah, Stone … That is not what happened. What you “made” me do was to confront you head on with truth and try to get you to use basic formative logic and think things through rationally. I can see that I had no success in doing that and I realize that I probably never will. But with me desperately trying to help you, what better evidence of being and friend and respecting you can there be? I deeply regret that you cannot understand and see this. I wish you well … Salute,
That is not what happened. What you “made” me do was to confront you head on with truth and try to get you to use basic formative logic and think things through rationally. No dumb ass. You dodged and played the asswipe for grandisland. It isn't logical to pretend that killing a cat for walking on your yard is reasonable or rational or legal. You don't give a shit about the law. You just like coming here to bait Deckard and have fun posting stuff. That's it. You wren't trying to teach shit. You like pretending you know something and you do sometimes. But not here.
Your threat against me is duly noted and taken to heart. I shall give you no reason to ever carry out your threat. With sincere personal regards,
I gotta go put my cat outside.
I can see that I had no success in doing that and I realize that I probably never will. But with me desperately trying to help you, what better evidence of being and friend and respecting you can there be? I deeply regret that you cannot understand and see this. This is textbook gaslighting technique, designed to emotionally manipulate you and make you question your own judgement and even your own sanity. Psychopaths are well-known for gaslighting their victims, for instance. It's not hard to detect these people because they do have enough success in manipulating people that they begin to think they are more effective at it than they are. Usually it just means their gaslighting only works with dumb people so they conclude that they are brilliant. Which all fits the demeanor Gatlin displays here. I'm glad you recognized the pattern of constant manipulative language, the ego stroking, the insistence they are acting on your behalf to correct your befuddled thinking, etc. I think that in real life, you've encountered more than a few of these types of people. Running a small business, I think you encounter all kinds of people, including some real con men and scammers. Your threat against me is duly noted and taken to heart. I shall give you no reason to ever carry out your threat. He doesn't want you to delete his account permanently. He's departing for now, laughing, but does intend to return some months from now. This is classic Canary technique.
Very astute observations, and analysis of Gatlin. He will be back shortly to call you a Paultard, and stink up the place some more LOL !
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
He supposedly has me on bozo. Or so he told me.
Oh my God !!! How can you possibly live with that ? How devastating !! /sarc LOL !!!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
I cry myself to sleep, every night. I may just have to kill myself because Gatshit put me on bozo and so life is no longer worth living.
Yeah, that is probably true !! What is also true, we can all enjoy the peace, calm & tranquility during his absence !!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
I certainly hope you learn to deal with that. Have your wife lock up all guns, knives, etc, and to keep a close eye on you! LOL !!!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
It’s not logical to pretend that your asshole cat isn’t shitting all over your neighbors, you LAZY asshole. Buy a litter box, and keep your filthy kritter on YOUR property. It’s turds like you, that caused HOA’s in the first place. No wonder you loath them like a 24 karat Paultard. Because you are the most important person you know. lol
You have shown yourself to be a bad cop. Someone who would break the law and kill some kids pet when the lawful thing to do is to call animal control. Then you would cover it up by hiding the evidence. You would wind up in jail and the laughingstock of some youtube videos.
But.... your fucking cat isn’t shitting on my property anymore, now is it? Haaaaaa
My cat is allowed to shit in your yard. In fact I would train it to do just that based on your attitude. In fact i'd bring in some stray cats and drop them off at your place.
Haaaaaa But your ass in 3 inches wider. Haaaaa Haaaaa
Keep the kitty’s flowing before archery season. I spend hours practicing. lol
Hey, asshole. God tells me I can kill your fucking cat, when I’m hungry. Local law doesn’t out TRUMP God. “ Genesis 9:3 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.” I’m hungry A LOT ... I’d keep your dog locked up, too
“ Genesis 27:3 Now then, take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me. God wants me to kill your cat. God NULLIFIES your little PETA feelings being hurt. Soon, you will FLIP FLOP on the issue, like you do with your drug addict loving Paultard posters, that occasionally tell you to fuck off... then you love them.
It is nonsense like this thread (and flat earth) that motivates me to go do something else which does not threaten to kill brain cells. I have not commented on this thread at all. Anyway, as I have been pinged to this glorious intellectual battle, - - - - - - - - - - [A K A Stone #115] From now on don't answer any hypothetical questions because i might delete them since you wont answer mine because it will hurt your little friends feelings. - - - - - - - - - - [Gatlin #116] What you “made” me do was to confront you head on with truth and try to get you to use basic formative logic and think things through rationally. - - - - - - - - - - [A K A Stone #117] It isn't logical to pretend that killing a cat for walking on your yard is reasonable or rational or legal. You don't give a shit about the law. GrandIsland's comment is in the context of criticism of those who engage in espousing jury nullification when it suits them and condemning it when it goes against their wishes. They perceive either a juror constitutional right, or an unconstitutional overreach, depending on the result. GI reserves the sacred right to nullify cats trespassing on his property. GrandIsland's snark about nullifying a law (or cats, or a law about cats) makes as much sense as the typical legal rationale for something given around here. Folks around here commonly express disdain for the laws they disagree with. Personal opinions are expressed as the actual law, quotations of real laws are held in contempt. [A K A Stone 2019-06-23] I just noticed this is another article by the liar Matt Argorist. No more articles from that freak. [A K A Stone 2019-09-04] Post Matt. Did you not approve posts from the liar and freak, Matt Agorist? If posts from an acknowledged liar and freak are permissible, how can anyone be outraged at a few snarky or factually challenged comments? That moved on to: When I proved that the Federal court cannot order a State government to pay, this advanced to: It is nice that you now don't care one way or the other, and that you still think the govt will pay, but neither you nor Deckard can provide any legal reason or rationale to support the original Matt Agorist headline that blared, "Taxpayers to Be Held Liable After Cops Steal Man’s Phone." Your response is above, and Deckard's response is to run and hide in silence as he usually does, only to resume streetwalking and selling his bullshit on different threads with your approval. https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60194&Disp=11#C11 A Florida Retiree's Uncut Lawn May Cost Him His House As I pointed out last night, this tall tale of Jim Ficken's tall grass, repeated for the fourth time in four different months, is, shall we say, somewhat legally and factually challenged. I provide court documents which provide a different story than the one-sided propaganda being shilled here. Court documents tend to evoke crickets. We are just lucky nothing real is happening in the world, or we would miss it. May the farce be with all y'all.
GrandIsland's snark about nullifying a law (or cats, or a law about cats) makes as much sense as the typical legal rationale for something given around here. Folks around here commonly express disdain for the laws they disagree with. Personal opinions are expressed as the actual law, quotations of real laws are held in contempt. I agree... the place has evolved into a shithole. I figured I couldn’t make it any more worse than Stone allowed it to get. He treats his site like his neighbors... he lets his kitty’s shit on his posters.
I already admitted I was wrong. I'll do that. I do believe in the end the government will pay. I should have been more clear. I think more lawsuits will be filed and it seems to me government's settle lots of cases. What I meant by I dont care that much or however I worded it was that the case isn't going to change my life it doesn't affect me. I dont know if it was on purpose and I'm not going to fact check every detail. The bigger story was the cops doing wrong and not the minor detail...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
I think talking online about killing other people's pets is pretty bad form on any forum.
I thought I and the U.S. Supreme Court clearly stated that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL for an individual to sue a named state defendant in Federal court. Read it again: Edelman v. Jordan, 415 U.S. 651, 677 (1974) At 1 (Syllabus) (a) A suit by private parties seeking to impose a liability payable from public funds in the state treasury is foreclosed by the Amendment if the State does not consent to suit. Pp. 415 U. S. 662-663. At 675-677: 415 U. S. 676 been suggested that § 1983 was intended to create a waiver of a State's Eleventh Amendment immunity merely because an action could be brought under that 415 U. S. 677 section against state officers, rather than against the State itself. Though a § 1983 action may be instituted by public aid recipients such as respondent, a federal court's remedial power, consistent with the Eleventh Amendment, is necessarily limited to prospective injunctive relief, Ex parte Young, supra, and may not include a retroactive award which requires the payment of funds from the state treasury, Ford Motor Co. v. Department of Treasury, supra. Why do you think more lawsuits will make the 11th Amendment evaporate and go away? The State of Connecticut in not a defendant in Picard because, if Connecticut were added, no Federal court could hear the case. Why do you think the State of Connecticut will settle a suit to which it is not a party, and in which the Court can issue no claim against a state? If there were to be a hundred more similarly situated cases, none of them could name the State of Connecticut as a defendant. As SCOTUS said, "A suit by private parties seeking to impose a liability payable from public funds in the state treasury is foreclosed by the [Eleventh] Amendment if the State does not consent to suit." The named defendants are STATE troopers. They are STATE employees. Where they are found to have qualified immunity, no award will issue. Where their act or omission is found to have been wanton, reckless or malicious, they are denied qualified immunity and the Court may issue an award of damages against them personally. Matt Agorist screams in a headline, the taxpayers will pay. Assume their actions are held wanton, reckless or malicious — produce the law which supports the screaming headline. We are not discussing "governments," we are discussing "STATE governments" in general, and Connecticut in particular. Any payment by Connecticut must be voluntary on the part of Connecticut. The STATE of Connecticut withheld agreement to reimburse employees for damages resulting from any act or omission found to have been wanton, reckless or malicious, or outside the scope of employment.
Gatschitt never had any couth so nothing he does should surprise you, after awhile you just have to laugh at his (and GI Tracts) childish antics.
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Because Matt is a lying fucking Paultard. Specializing in: Presumptive bias Yellow journalism Fear mongering Indoctrination And his fellow Paultards, suck up his kook-aid, like their hugging their cats.
Hey, asshole. God says I have “dominion” over your filthy smelly wild cat. “ Genesis 1:26 ESV Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” The moral of the story... don’t let livestock “creep” on my fucking tax paid earth (aka my property).
Are you a tough-guy cat lover, too? lol
Exodus 21:28 ESV “When an ox gores a man or a woman to death, the ox shall be stoned, and its flesh shall not be eaten, but the owner of the ox shall not be liable. When your cat shitteth on my holy flowerbed, it shall be stoned. I promise not to eat it’s flesh... or hold your LAZY, non litter buying ass liable. You need to learn the Bible, jack-off. God created your cat and dog, for my consumption. I wouldn’t let them fuckers ROAM too far. lol
You mean like guys that just have to tell everybody (trying to impress them) how much ammunition they have acquired, or how they've flown one of the fastest nuclear capable bombers ever to take to the sky? Nah... Besides what normal guy doesn't like pussy? (Oh wait never mind I forgot all about you tough guys sexual proclivities) Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Have to admit, I laughed out loud at that one. Interesting new tactic (for you anyways) of invoking Holy Scripture. Gatlin's been using that for years. Has he been tutoring young Mister Five-Oh?
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Shouldn’t I be allowed the same defenses as A K A Flip Flop?
Funny comments Uncle! This has been a real funny thread !!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
Don't forget, just the other day he claimed to have also had an 11 year OSI career.
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
Which one Gatschitt or GI Tract?
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
You mean like guys that just have to tell everybody (trying to impress them) how much ammunition they have acquired, or how they've flown one of the fastest nuclear capable bombers ever to take to the sky? Freakin' funny.
He’s Goldi. lol THAT is a classic (and insane) old-school LP response. (Goldi's Cat frowns upon this thread)
Fuck Goldi and her cat. You did know that Goldi’s cat was EATING on Goldi... she was down so long because family never contacted the kook, because she was Paultard mentally weird. That’s what animals do.
Liberace and Freddy Mercury were big pet loves, too. lol
Gatschitt, post 18 in this thread: https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60060&Disp=29#C29
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
“It’s definitely antiquated, I think if anything, there needs to be some kind of addition or amendment to the ordinance excluding felines,” Anderson said.
#2. To: misterwhite (#1)
neutered and micro-chipped and vaccinated
#3. To: watchman (#2)
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn – someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it.
#5. To: WWG1WWA (#4)
I don't have a cat because my HOA ruled that cats outside must be on a leash. I hate HOAs. One person complains and the other 585 homes have to suffer.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#6. To: Deckard (#0)
… I can imagine Gatlin …
At least the doggie cop didn't "fear for his life" and shoot the kitty.
Gatlin
#7. To: Deckard (#5)
HOAs are the worst places to live IMHO …
So, never buy into an area that is under the governorship of HOA regulations and rules.
Gatlin
#8. To: Deckard (#0)
A Utah woman wants to see change after an antiquated ordinance led her to receive misdemeanor charges for allowing her cat to lie on their front lawn.
Great. There is an legal established process for making such a change – So have at it.
Gatlin
#9. To: Deckard (#0)
When Kate Anderson was first approached by animal control, she thought something terrible had happened to their cat.
Why would she think anything other than the officer was going to give her a citation – because it was the second one she was getting for the exact same violation? Then, the officer gave her a citation, carrying the weight of two misdemeanor charges, for letting her cat lie on their own lawn.
This is not true. This citation she was given did not carry the weight of two misdemeanor charges.
Gatlin
#10. To: Deckard (#0)
In the Anderson household, Milo is treated like family.
Gatlin
#11. To: Deckard (#0)
“He’s got a cat door, so he just comes and goes and is a cat,” Anderson said.
Gatlin
#12. To: Deckard (#0)
However, they never expected their furry feline would be the reason they were slapped with misdemeanor charges.
Gatlin
#13. To: Deckard (#0)
“There he is, back at the scene of the crime,” Anderson laughed as her cat came near her and laid on the lawn.
Gatlin
#14. To: Deckard (#0)
“This is a cat who is neutered and micro-chipped and vaccinated, and is not a menace to society,” Anderson said.
Uh, Anderson – you are obviously as big a dumb shit as Deckard is.
Gatlin
#15. To: Deckard (#0)
Kate lifted up the ordinance and started to explain what it said, “That’s telling me I have to call for my court date… for my misdemeanors… of having my cat outside.”
Surprise – Surprise …
Gatlin
#16. To: Deckard (#0)
Two charges were listed on the citation, both Class B misdemeanors. The first for having an ‘animal at large,’ the second for ‘not having an animal license attached.’
One article stated that this was the second citation she had received.
Gatlin
#17. To: Deckard (#0)
“Like a fugitive. Like robbed a bank,” she said after reading the phrase ‘at large’ out loud.
Gatlin
#18. To: Deckard (#0)
Based on the Murray city ordinance, which was enacted in 1963, it is illegal for any animal, house cats included, to run at large.
Gatlin
#19. To: Deckard (#0)
The ordinance reads in part:
Gatlin
#20. To: Deckard (#0)
(Edited)
“I don’t think most people think it is illegal to let your cat outside under any circumstance,” Anderson said.
Gatlin
#21. To: Deckard (#0)
The City Attorney for Murray, G.L. Critchfield, told FOX 13 that while Milo being on the lawn was technically a violation, they have filed a motion to dismiss the charges, considering how minor the violation is.
Gatlin
#22. To: Deckard (#0)
Gatlin
#23. To: Gatlin (#6)
It is not completely unsurprising to me that you constantly think about me and find that you use fantasizing as a means of giving yourself an illusion transference of greatness while you project yourself as being me in order to satisfy the wonderfully great emotional experience that you crave, albeit through a mere illusion.
#24. To: WWG1WWA (#4)
I don't have a cat because my HOA ruled that cats outside must be on a leash.
#25. To: GrandIsland (#24)
#26. To: A K A Stone (#23)
It is not completely unsurprising to me that you constantly think about me and find that you use fantasizing as a means of giving yourself an illusion transference of greatness while you project yourself as being me in order to satisfy the wonderfully great emotional experience that you crave, albeit through a mere illusion.
What kind of asshole does that? I can imagine Gatlin ... [Underline Added]
Gatlin
#27. To: Deckard (#0)
someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it.
#28. To: Gatlin (#26)
#29. To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland (#25)
Cats belong outside with the birds and bees.
https://www.allaboutbirds.org/faq-outdoor-cats-and-their-effects-on- birds/
Any intelligent person should be able to recognize that this is an unnatural situation and it is taking a tremendous toll on the native wildlife in our country. There are now between 60 million to 100 million free-ranging, unowned cats in the United States. These are non-native predators that, even using conservative estimates, kill 1.3–4 billion birds and 6.3–22.3 billion mammals each year.
Gatlin
#30. To: A K A Stone (#28)
Kooky.
That probably is a better adjective to use in describing Deckard.
Gatlin
#31. To: A K A Stone (#27)
someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it.
That it may have been that the “lady with the cat” was the “asshole” who kept complaining to the authorities about insignificant problems she found with her neighbors.
Who knows …
Gatlin
#32. To: Gatlin (#6)
It is not completely unsurprising to me that you constantly think about me and find that you use fantasizing as a means of giving yourself an illusion transference of greatness while you project yourself as being me in order to satisfy the wonderfully great emotional experience that you crave, albeit through a mere illusion.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#33. To: A K A Stone, Tooconservative, Liberator, Stoner (#27)
someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#34. To: Deckard (#33)
" typical Gatlin bilge "
#35. To: Deckard (#33)
“Milo, come here!” Anderson said as she made kissy noises to her cat while it laid on their front lawn.
#36. To: GrandIsland (#24)
(Edited)
#37. To: A K A Stone (#25)
Cats belong outside with the birds and bees.
#38. To: WWG1WWA (#36)
(Edited)
Sorry, but I'm not a fan of them
#39. To: GrandIsland (#38)
#40. To: GrandIsland (#37)
If you feel you need a cat, as a “pet”... and your “pet” enters my yard, expect me to treat it like I do birds and bees on my property. I kill them.
#41. To: GrandIsland (#37)
f you feel you need a cat, as a “pet”... and your “pet” enters my yard, expect me to treat it like I do birds and bees on my property. I kill them.
#42. To: A K A Stone (#41)
(Edited)
How often to you engage in this criminal behavior?
#43. To: A K A Stone (#40)
1) You would be video taped
#44. To: A K A Stone (#41)
#45. To: GrandIsland (#43)
1) Perfectly legal to leave an antifreeze soaked fish, in my lawn. Video tape it. Without the fish, you can just guess how your putty was poisoned.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#46. To: Deckard (#45)
You know, I read some studies that many cops abused animals in their yout[h] …
Post the links to the “studies” you said that you “read” …
Gatlin
#47. To: Deckard (#45)
Abusing animals is another thing they have in common with many serial killers.
Post links to show “where many serial killers” abuse animals.
Gatlin
#48. To: GrandIsland (#42)
The real question is this.... your little pet won’t ever be found.
#49. To: Gatlin (#47)
Post links to show “where many serial killers” abuse animals.
#50. To: Deckard (#45)
I read some studies that many cops abused animals in their yout
#51. To: GrandIsland (#42)
The real question is this.... your little pet won’t ever be found. There will be no witnesses or video.
#52. To: GrandIsland (#50)
Th article showed the judicial system worked.
#53. To: A K A Stone (#48)
#54. To: A K A Stone (#52)
(Edited)
No he was pointing out the fact that serial killers like to do things like leave fish out with antifreeze in it.
#55. To: A K A Stone (#51)
So you should receive 10 times the sentence since it would have been on purpose.
#56. To: A K A Stone (#49)
Abusing animals is another thing they [the cops] have in common with many serial killers.
Can you, Deckard, post links to show where “abusing animals is another thing the cops have in common with serial killers?”
Gatlin
#57. To: Gatlin (#56)
(Edited)
#58. To: GrandIsland (#53)
Stone, it’s important that you KNOW, that your freedoms END, when your FREEDOMS INFRINGE UPON MY FREEDOMS. So, you have the LIBERALterian freedoms to own a filthy cat. I have the FREEDOM to not have cat shit on my property... if you allow your FREEDOM to enter my property AND it infringes upon my freedoms, your freedom cat is in DANGER.
#59. To: Gatlin (#56)
#60. To: GrandIsland (#57)
but like Goldi, he’s a cat loving
#61. To: GrandIsland (#55)
Only in your Paultard self important mind, would you think I have to allow your cat to shit on my property..
#62. To: Gatlin (#56)
#63. To: Gatlin (#56)
#64. To: A K A Stone (#58)
Intentionally killing an owned cat is prohibited in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
#65. To: GrandIsland (#63)
Same reason there are laws against dogs roaming
#66. To: A K A Stone (#60)
Also there is no such thing as a Paultard that is just what some retard made up because they couldn't handle someone with a different view then them. Keep using the term if you want but it makes you look dumb.
#67. To: GrandIsland (#63)
And if I don’t like this,
#68. To: A K A Stone (#65)
If you killed my pet I would definitely kick your ass. No doubt about it. Not just you any person who did that would get their ass kicked.
#69. To: A K A Stone (#67)
(Edited)
You can call animal control and not act like a nut job killing peoples pets. That is just kooky.
#70. To: GrandIsland (#69)
shouldn’t have to call animal control.
#71. To: A K A Stone (#70)
(Edited)
Little piggy above the law?
#72. To: GrandIsland (#69)
Fuck you. You don’t want your cat dead, LEASH IT or keep it in your house. YOU CALL ANIMAL CONTROL when you can’t find your fucking cat no more.
#73. To: GrandIsland (#71)
#74. To: GrandIsland (#63)
Gatlin, don’t believe Stones Adam Schiff like presumptive BIAS …
I don’t. I see right through him.
Gatlin
#75. To: A K A Stone (#70)
Are you above the law?
#76. To: GrandIsland (#73)
You really have him going.
Gatlin
#77. To: A K A Stone (#73)
You're not better than a ghetto crack whore.
#78. To: Gatlin (#76)
#79. To: GrandIsland (#75)
You know how many times Schiff, Nader and Pelosi used the same bullshit quote, in the last year, to further their AGENDA?
#80. To: GrandIsland (#78)
It’s not hard to get a Paultard going.
#81. To: A K A Stone (#62)
You better get someone to help you. I cut and pasted your link and it works just fine.
Yea, I did need help on that one.
Gatlin
#82. To: Gatlin (#74)
Or is Stone just being Deckard?
#83. To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland (#80)
Yeah you really got me going.
He sure as hell does.
Gatlin
#84. To: Gatlin (#81)
Do you ever follow the conversations along in the posts – or do you just suddenly appear on the thread and grab onto a post and shoot your mouth off?
#85. To: A K A Stone (#80)
#86. To: GrandIsland (#82)
Gatlin
#87. To: GrandIsland (#82)
THEN, animal control will say, sorry sir, there are no laws regarding leashing a cat
#88. To: Gatlin (#86)
#89. To: GrandIsland (#85)
Now keep your fucking livestock OFF my property, if you don’t want to lose your kitty.
#90. To: A K A Stone (#87)
Just follow the law or go to jail and get beat up. Well you would get beat up in jail. Just like I would kick your ass if you illegally harmed my pet.
#91. To: A K A Stone (#84)
I bet you are to much of a pussy to answer this question.
Answer “THIS” question?
Gatlin
#92. To: GrandIsland (#82)
You know, he’s so fucking important,
#93. To: A K A Stone (#89)
Cats are legally allowed to roam. If they cause damage to your car you can sue in court.
#94. To: Gatlin (#91)
#95. To: A K A Stone (#92)
I am more important that you are. I'm also better, stronger and more handsome. Funnier too.
#96. To: GrandIsland (#90)
Don’t make your situation worse, Paultard...
He has really gone all out “Deckard” – Or, is this the “real” Stone?
Gatlin
#97. To: GrandIsland (#93)
I’m nullifying you’re civil laws. You should understand that, Paultard.
#98. To: A K A Stone (#94)
#99. To: Gatlin (#96)
He has really gone all out “Deckard” – Or, is this the “real” Stone? Salute,
#100. To: A K A Stone (#97)
You can do that on a jury if you like.
#101. To: GrandIsland (#98)
You Paultards aren’t built to think like that.
#102. To: GrandIsland (#100)
I can’t be in the jury of my own civil trial, dumb shit.
#103. To: A K A Stone (#94)
Do you agree with Grand lunatic that killing cats is his right?
I cannot agree about something when I have not been shown evidence that it has happened
Gatlin
#104. To: A K A Stone (#99)
#105. To: A K A Stone (#102)
Then how are you going to nullify it dumb piggy.
#106. To: Gatlin (#103)
I cannot agree about something when I have not been shown evidence that it has happened
#107. To: A K A Stone (#84)
Uh you can't cut and paste the address in your browser. It is easy I did it and the link worked just fine.
The first two worked but the last one did not.
Gatlin
#108. To: GrandIsland (#104)
I’m surprised he still posts in LIBERTY FLIP FLOP FLAME. I’ve lost interest with your Paultard flip flops.
#109. To: Gatlin (#107)
#110. To: Gatlin (#107)
For knowing you, it didn’t mean shit anyway.
#111. To: A K A Stone (#106)
#112. To: A K A Stone (#106)
I cannot agree about something when I have not been shown evidence that it has happened
Stone … Stone … Stone … Do you support that …
I support the First Amendment that guarantees our right to free expression. or are you a pussy …
Call me “pussy” for supporting the First Amendment if it makes you feel better. But I will still support the First Amendment. … your would be feline killing friend.
Woah – Hold on there, hoss …
Gatlin
#113. To: GrandIsland (#111)
When you stop being a self important Paultard, you will understand that your cat doesn’t have fucking constitutional rights, on my property.
#114. To: Gatlin (#112)
#115. To: Gatlin (#112)
You just said “would be feline killing”
#116. To: A K A Stone, Grand Island, nolu chan (#110)
At least I made you take off your mask and drop all the phoney Stone you are my friend and I respect you bullshit.
Gatlin
#117. To: Gatlin (#116)
Nah, Stone …
#118. To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland, nolu chan (#115)
… because i might delete them …
Gatlin
#119. To: Gatlin (#118)
#120. To: A K A Stone (#116)
(Edited)
What you “made” me do was to confront you head on with truth and try to get you to use basic formative logic and think things through rationally.
At least I made you take off your mask and drop all the phoney Stone you are my friend and I respect you bullshit.
… because i might delete them …
#121. To: Tooconservative (#120)
(Edited)
#122. To: Stoner (#121)
#123. To: Tooconservative (#122)
" He supposedly has me on bozo. "
#124. To: Stoner (#123)
How can you possibly live with that ? How devastating !!
#125. To: Tooconservative (#120)
" He's departing for now, laughing, but does intend to return some months from now. This is classic Canary technique. "
#126. To: Tooconservative (#124)
" I may just have to kill myself because Gatshit put me on bozo and so life is no longer worth living. "
#127. To: A K A Stone (#117)
(Edited)
It isn't logical to pretend that killing a cat for walking on your yard is reasonable or rational or legal.
#128. To: GrandIsland (#127)
#129. To: A K A Stone (#128)
Someone who would break the law and kill some kids pet when the lawful thing to do is to call animal control. Then you would cover it up by hiding the evidence. You would wind up in jail and the laughingstock of some youtube videos.
#130. To: GrandIsland (#127)
It’s not logical to pretend that your asshole cat isn’t shitting all over your neighbors
#131. To: GrandIsland (#129)
But.... your fucking cat isn’t shitting on my property anymore, now is it?
#132. To: A K A Stone (#130)
In fact I would train it to do just that based on your attitude. In fact i'd bring in some stray cats and drop them off at your place.
#133. To: A K A Stone (#131)
#134. To: A K A Stone (#131)
#135. To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Gatlin (#117)
[GrandIsland #42] I NULLIFY your stupid cat protection law... just like you nullify laws you don’t like.
[A K A Stone 2019-10-02] The free thought project article in question contained no lies. The tax payers will pay.
[A K A Stone 2019-10-03]If i'm wrong i'm wrong. Who cares. The cops still abused their power and did wrong. That was the point of the article. I still think the govt will pay in the end. But I don't care one way or the other.
#136. To: nolu chan (#135)
GrandIsland's comment is in the context of criticism of those who engage in espousing jury nullification when it suits them and condemning it when it goes against their wishes. They perceive either a juror constitutional right, or an unconstitutional overreach, depending on the result. GI reserves the sacred right to nullify cats trespassing on his property.
#137. To: nolu chan (#135)
is nice that you now don't care one way or the other, and that you still think the govt will pay, but neither you nor Deckard can provide any legal reason or rationale to support the original
#138. To: Tooconservative (#120)
He doesn't want you to delete his account permanently. He's departing for now, laughing, but does intend to return some months from now. This is classic Canary technique.
#139. To: CZ82 (#138)
#140. To: A K A Stone (#137)
I already admitted I was wrong. I'll do that. I do believe in the end the government will pay. I should have been more clear. I think more lawsuits will be filed and it seems to me government's settle lots of cases.
Held: The Eleventh Amendment of the Constitution bars that portion of the District Court's decree that ordered retroactive payment of benefits. Pp. 415 U. S. 658-678.
But it has not heretofore
government's settle lots of cases
#141. To: Tooconservative (#139)
I think talking online about killing other people's pets is pretty bad form on any forum.
#142. To: nolu chan (#140)
Matt Agorist screams in a headline, the taxpayers will pay. Assume their actions are held wanton, reckless or malicious — produce the law which supports the screaming headline.
#143. To: A K A Stone (#130)
#144. To: CZ82 (#141)
#145. To: A K A Stone (#128)
(Edited)
#146. To: GrandIsland (#144)
(Edited)
Are you a tough-guy cat lover, too?
#147. To: GrandIsland (#145)
When your cat shitteth on my holy flowerbed
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#148. To: Deckard (#147)
Interesting new tactic (for you anyways) of invoking Holy Scripture.
#149. To: CZ82 (#146)
#150. To: CZ82 (#146)
" You mean like guys that just have to tell everybody (trying to impress them) how much ammunition they have acquired, or how they've flown one of the fastest nuclear capable bombers ever to take to the sky? "
#151. To: Stoner (#150)
Don't forget, just the other day he claimed to have also had an 11 year OSI career.
#152. To: CZ82, GrandIsland (#146)
("Are you a tough-guy cat lover, too?")
#153. To: GrandIsland, Gatlin, A K A Stone, Deckard, Goldi's Cat, We The People (#57)
I gotta tell ya, Gatlin. I didn’t think Stone was as Paultarded, as the drug lovers... but like Goldi, he’s a cat loving Paultard fucking freak. No wonder he allows his fellow Paultards to treat him like shit, verbally, then tell them not to do something like post lying articles... then he flip flops.
#154. To: Liberator (#153)
(Edited)
#155. To: Liberator (#152)
#156. To: CZ82 (#151)
" Gatschitt or GI Tract? "
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