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Title: Man, 75, tells Belton officer to close bathroom door then gets fined $257
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Greenville News
URL Source: https://www.greenvilleonline.com/st ... -confrontation-cop/2065434001/
Published: Aug 22, 2019
Author: Mike Ellis
Post Date: 2019-08-28 05:52:26 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 977
Comments: 31
A 75-year-old man who has an artificial leg and says he is hard of hearing was cited for disorderly conduct after he yelled at a police officer to close the bathroom door after the officer used the restroom at a Belton restaurant. Part of the Tuesday incident was captured on video by a bystander who was told by the officer to stop filming the incident. Bobby Ray Phillips, a regular at the Standpipe Family Restaurant, said he was enjoying his grilled chicken, cabbage and cornbread on Tuesday afternoon when Belton Police Cpl. Thaddeus Shockley went to the restroom, used it and left the door open. Shockley wrote in an incident report that Phillips “yelled in a boisterous manner” at him after he left the restroom “you not going to shut the door.” Bobby Ray Phillips of Belton talks about an incident at a restaurant with a city officer that resulted in a uniform traffic ticket for "public disorderly conduct." Phillips said he asked Belton Cpl. Shockley to close the a bathroom door and the officer put him in handcuffs. Shockley said in his report that he asked Phillips for identification after Phillips made another comment about the bathroom door. “All I said to him was close that bathroom door,” Phillips said in an interview at his home on Wednesday. “I said, ‘You left that door open, I’m eating here. Leave that scent in there, right?” Shockley, in his report, said Phillips declined to show his ID and also declined to go outside. Shockley wrote that he attempted to assist Phillips, but he held onto his chair and became “defiant.” Phillips said he was loud, as he always is due to his hearing difficulties, but does not believe he was aggressive or that he did anything to warrant being put in handcuffs or being ticketed. He said he told the officer he could not hear and asked him to write down his questions. Phillips said his artificial leg makes it difficult to stand with his hands free and impossible with them restrained. He said his mobility challenges are what led him to take the first table in the restaurant, which is near the bathrooms at the entrance. In a 12 second video taken by restaurant patron Cindy Young, Shockley can be seen interacting with Phillips, using the word “handcuff” before turning to Young, saying “ma’am, do I need to take that phone from you?” Young said no and shut off her phone. Young said she was intimidated by the officer and didn’t want to be arrested or have her phone seized. Phillips and Young said Phillips was handcuffed and released at least four times, twice in the restaurant and twice outside. Shockley’s report makes no mention of Phillips being handcuffed. Police Chief Robert Young, no relation to the woman who shot the video, said an officer requesting someone to stop filming them can be problematic. He said he has not had the opportunity to debrief Shockley, who was off on Wednesday. He said he expected to get more details from Shockley on Thursday. In a statement sent late Thursday afternoon, Young said an internal investigation had been started, to include review of any other possible video as well as interviews with witnesses. He said the department would refrain from further comments until the investigation has concluded. "We understand and appreciate the trust placed in us by those we serve," Young said in the statement. "We strive to provide quality service to the Belton citizens and maintain a level of integrity that is fitting of our city." Young, who is in his 11th week as Belton’s chief, said he appreciates video from witnesses because it either supports the account of officers or it highlights an issue that needs to be addressed. Shockley’s body camera was not turned on during the incident, said Sgt. Anthony Smith, a Belton officer who arrived when Shockley and Phillips were outside. Chief Young said it’s legal for citizens to video or take photographs of officers doing their jobs as long as the recording does not interfere with the officer’s job. An ordinance in Belton says people have to be at least 20 feet away from an officer who is trying to make an arrest. Shockley could not be reached for comment. Phillips said he intends to pay the $257 citation. Shockley, in the report, said the restaurant declined to put Phillips on trespass notice. The restaurant declined to comment about the incident. During the interview at his home, with the 1960s TV show Gunsmoke blaring in the background, Phillips showed what he said was bruising to his arm and a scratch on his back. He said his shoulder and wrists were hurting, too. “You can’t manhandle a 75-year-old man without hurting him.”
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
The only "part" of the video is no doubt edited to present a biased picture. That's always the case with all of the videos in "these" stories ...
Yeah, I wonder why that is? In a 12 second video taken by restaurant patron Cindy Young, Shockley can be seen interacting with Phillips, using the word “handcuff” before turning to Young, saying “ma’am, do I need to take that phone from you?” Young said no and shut off her phone. Young said she was intimidated by the officer and didn’t want to be arrested or have her phone seized. So not only did this bully go after a 75-year old man for telling him to close the bathroom door (what kind of disgusting pig leaves the bathroom door open in a restaurant anyways), he intimidated a witness who was attempting to document this event - a clear first amendment violation.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Uh, a libertarian... --- Open Borders - Open Doors ---
Another pig who thinks his shit don't stink and is ready to brutalize some poor old cripple to silence him just because the old dude doesn't want to try to eat while having to smell the cop's stinky shit and farts in a public restaurant. Could the contempt of this PD toward the public be made any more plain?
Update: Cop who Handcuffed Senior Citizen for telling him to Shut Bathroom Door is Fired
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. When it was asked earlier: I stand by my post which again asked the question: Salute,
Uh, a libertarian... very insightful.
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Cop who Handcuffed Senior Citizen for telling him to Shut Bathroom Door is Fired Nice followup. You know I love the followup story. Let's call it a Happy Ending. Except for the pig who would rather arrest someone rather than close the bathroom door while he's farting and shitting a short distance away.
... what kind of disgusting pig leaves the bathroom door open in a restaurant anyways .. I immediately answered: Uh, a libertarian... Uh, we are not those kind of libertarians. We may argue over open-borders but not about open-bathroom-doors. We would counter-argue that the cop shitting and farting away only feet away from the paying customers in the restaurant was a violation of the all-important Non-Aggression Principle. And it is likely that the entire incident resulted from a costumed official feeling empowered by some puny badge to inflict some unpleasantness to those who used their free speech rights to object to his degradation of their dining experience as paying customers of a public establishment. The door was there, ready to be closed at need, something management provided to protect the privacy and peace of mind of all customers. Until a pig with a badge came along and decided he didn't need no stinkin' door. Because that is just too much trouble to take a second to close. And then he emerged to harass an elderly man who spoke up against his farty smelly shitty behavior. No decent cop would expect the public to put up with that. I'm kinda glad he got fired. But, really, he could have just apologized, had his meal and none of this would have happened, eh? The pig was the one who caused himself to be fired. OTOH, he must have had some...red flags...in his file already because I doubt he got fired over one single incident as minor as a bathroom faux pas. I know a kindergarten teacher. She told me once about how sometimes it is difficult to train the children to close the bathroom door because their parents hadn't taught them to close it at home. Surely a cop is expected to be as smart as the graduate of our local cowtown kindergarten, isn't he?
Read the article again and you will find that Phillips “yelled in a boisterous manner” at him after he left the restroom “you not going to shut the door.” If you hurry, you may still have time to edit your post. If not – a corrective post will suffice. Salute,
I have no doubt that the government hater, was acting like an asshole. Just by reading Dicktards posts, i’m 100% positive that if Dicktard had to deal with ANY cop, he’d treat the officer like an asshole, just for being a cop.
The old dude was obviously concerned that the pig's farty shitty smells were wafting toward him from the still-open bathroom door. We don't have enough info to otherwise establish all the facts just from this article. But we do know that the cop was no rookie and we do know he got fired over this incident. So, I'm not taking anything back.
Or he might be a total doormat and utterly compliant. Maybe he's just tough on cops online, not when facing down with one in person. It takes all kinds.
Phillips did not want to be looking into a bathroom while he was eating. So, let’s go over this one more time: Phillips did not yell at: I know you to be much better than this … Salute,
No surprise here. You usually don't when you are wrong.
There you go ... The door the cop "left open" after he "opened it to leave" the bathroom. Attaboy. Whew!!! I finally got you straighten out ...
In some cases, yes. But Deckard has continually proven himself to be "one of a kind".
Phillips “yelled in a boisterous manner” at him after he left the restroom “you not going to shut the door.” I like my version better. : ) If you prefer to believe the cop got fired for harassing an old man who objected to his farts and shit smells caused by the cop leaving the bathroom door open, that is your right. I prefer to remember it the way I described it.
An inconsequential detail compared to the cop getting fired for his carelessness about his fecal odors and his readiness to harass an old man rather than just going back to close that bathroom door. The cop will have a lot of time to think about that now that he no longer has a job, right?
Ya know, I did think of that.
Repeating: [There is NEVER] enough info to […] establish all the facts just from [these] article[s]. Yet Deckard and you – mostly Deckard – continue to chastise cops with your gut feelings based on flimsy information and half-truths. While I am continually called a “copsucker” simply because I want everyone to try to see there are always two sides to these stories and we are never hearing the second side. Salute,
Come on, it’s a whole different era now. Cops get fired all the time, whether they were right or wrong. Depends on how much bad PR the department gets. I’m glad I’m retired from policing the general public. Example, the officer that attempted to arrest that big fat, career criminal, UNHEALTHY, Gardner, in NYC. They fired the officer 5 years after, and after he was cleared of wrongdoing. Let’s face it, if that dysfunctional urban monkey didn’t resist, and just simply turned around and allowed them to handcuff his fat ass, he might be still alive today. Passing blame is a liberal staple... and Dicktard is a professional at it.
I don't doubt it. : )
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That's right. Yep, absolutely correct. And maybe you can take a lot of time to try to get the facts straight before you again start "kicking the next cop's ass" after considering that - as you said - "We don't have enough info to [...] establish all the facts." Nice exchange - Thanks ...
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Gardner seems like a travesty, a social media mob acting like a lynch mob to grab a scalp so they can feel powerful. Even if they don't know the facts of the case. They're just running with the "social justice" and "racial justice" that they think will work for them every time. I despise when the authorities give in to a mob, especially some crummy Facebook/Twitter mob. Hell, they could all be Russian troll farm cutouts and not American citizens at all. In my thinking, Gardner might have started having the heart attack due to elevated stress from the cop just talking to him. He was a walking corpse and clearly in very bad health. Any little thing could have started a heart attack, leaving him saying, "I can't breathe". Which is what happens in most heart attacks. But the coroner can't make such exact determinations from the corpse.
I think I said it first. I've said it for years. Maybe for over a decade. Okay, I will give you that credit. But often times as of late, I have not seen you following that principle while you posted on Deckard’s cop-hating threads. I have battered this around enough on this thread. Arrivederci, And you can have the last word on this …
I despise when the authorities give in to a mob, especially some crummy Facebook/Twitter mob. Hell, they could all be Russian troll farm cutouts and not American citizens at all. In my thinking, Gardner might have started having the heart attack due to elevated stress from the cop just talking to him. He was a walking corpse and clearly in very bad health. Any little thing could have started a heart attack, leaving him saying, "I can't breathe". Which is what happens in most heart attacks. But the coroner can't make such exact determinations from the corpse. The whole post, 100% spot on. Good post.
Salute,
Part of the Tuesday incident was captured on video ...
#2. To: Gatlin (#1)
The only "part" of the video is no doubt edited to present a biased picture.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#3. To: Deckard (#2)
... what kind of disgusting pig leaves the bathroom door open in a restaurant anyways ..
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
#5. To: Tooconservative, Gatlin (#4)
Another pig who thinks his shit don't stink and is ready to brutalize some poor old cripple to silence him just because the old dude doesn't want to try to eat while having to smell the cop's stinky shit and farts in a public restaurant.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#6. To: Deckard (#5)
There was absolutely no reason for you to ping me. ... what kind of disgusting pig leaves the bathroom door open in a restaurant anyways ..
I immediately answered: Uh, a libertarian...
I was never in any way defending the cop, so I didn’t gave a shit whether he was fired or not. ... what kind of disgusting pig leaves the bathroom door open in a restaurant anyways ..
And I answered: Uh, a libertarian...
For validation, I refer you to an article headlined: The piggish politics of fake libertarians
The subtitle to that article is: Swine Time
Now, I betcha sorry that you pinged me – Eh?
Gatlin
#7. To: Gatlin (#6)
what kind of disgusting pig leaves the bathroom door open in a restaurant anyways .. And I answered:
#8. To: Gatlin (#1)
(Edited)
boris
#9. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#5)
Update:
#10. To: Gatlin, Deckard, GrandIsland (#6)
When it was asked earlier:
#11. To: Tooconservative (#9)
Except for the pig who would rather arrest someone rather than close the bathroom door while he's farting and shitting a short distance away.
Ooops, you went way too FAR.
Gatlin
#12. To: Gatlin (#11)
after he left the restroom
#13. To: Gatlin (#11)
(Edited)
Read the article again and you will find that Phillips “yelled in a boisterous manner” at him after he left the restroom “you not going to shut the door.”
#14. To: GrandIsland (#12)
Just by reading Dicktards posts, i’m 100% positive that if Dicktard had to deal with ANY cop, he’d treat the officer like an asshole, just for being a cop.
#15. To: Tooconservative (#10)
There you go AGAIN … We would counter-argue that the cop shitting and farting away only feet away …
How many times must I tell you, Deckard – Er, Tooconservative – to read the article again and you will find that: Phillips “yelled in a boisterous manner” at him after he left the restroom “you not going to shut the door.”
Phillips wanted the cop to shut the door “after” – not “during” … … the cop [who was at the time] shitting and farting away only feet away from the paying customers …
Geeeeze …
Gatlin
#16. To: Tooconservative (#13)
So, I'm not taking anything back.
#17. To: Tooconservative (#13)
the still-open bathroom door.
#18. To: Tooconservative, GrandIsland (#14)
It takes all kinds.
#19. To: Gatlin (#15)
How many times must I tell you, Deckard – Er, Tooconservative – to read the article again and you will find that:
#20. To: Gatlin (#17)
The door the cop "left open" after he "opened it to leave" the bathroom.
#21. To: Tooconservative (#14)
Or he might be a total doormat and utterly compliant. Maybe he's just tough on cops online, not when facing down with one in person.
#22. To: Tooconservative (#13)
We don't have enough info to otherwise establish all the facts just from this article.
But “we” damned well had “enough info” from the article to chastise the hell and out of the cop and thoroughly burnish severe condemnation upon him – with these “little known facts” – right? We don't have enough info to otherwise establish all the facts just from this article.
Well, damn – just DAMN – that is the message I have been preaching for many years, there is “not enough information” in these articles.
Gatlin
#23. To: Tooconservative (#19)
If you prefer to believe the cop got fired for harassing an old man who
#24. To: GrandIsland (#21)
Ya know, I did think of that.
#25. To: Gatlin (#22)
Well, damn – just DAMN – that is the message I have been preaching for many years, there is “not enough information” in these articles.
While I am continually called a “copsucker” simply because I want everyone to try to see there are always two sides to these stories and we are never hearing the second side.
#26. To: Tooconservative (#20)
The cop will have a lot of time to think about that now that he no longer has a job, right?
#27. To: All (#8)
boris
#28. To: GrandIsland (#23)
Example, the officer that attempted to arrest that big fat, career criminal, UNHEALTHY, Gardner, in NYC. They fired the officer 5 years after, and after he was cleared of wrongdoing. Let’s face it, if that dysfunctional urban monkey didn’t resist, and just simply turned around and allowed them to handcuff his fat ass, he might be still alive today.
#29. To: Tooconservative (#25)
Well, damn – just DAMN – that is the message I have been preaching for many years, there is “not enough information” in these articles.
Gatlin
#30. To: Tooconservative (#28)
Gardner seems like a travesty, a social media mob acting like a lynch mob to grab a scalp so they can feel powerful. Even if they don't know the facts of the case. They're just running with the "social justice" and "racial justice" that they think will work for them every time.
#31. To: Tooconservative (#10)
Uh, we are not those kind of libertarians.
And that, my Dear Sir, reminds me of an old joke that I will now share with you: Man to woman: Would you sleep with me for one million dollars?
So, we’ve already established what you are. All you’re doing is showing that libertarians variously define themselves through so many different sources that there is no general consensus among scholars on the definition and neither on how one can ever use the term as a historical sense.
Woman: Sure.
Man: How about for ten dollars?
Woman: What do you think I am?
Man: We’ve already established what you are. All we’re doing is bargaining about price.
Gatlin
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