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Houthi rebels' attack severely damages a Belize-flagged ship in key strait leading to the Red Sea (British Ship) Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: New Kavanaugh Witnesses Source: Fox News URL Source: [None] Published: Sep 27, 2018 Author: Fox News Post Date: 2018-09-27 00:17:37 by redleghunter Keywords: None Views: 4815 Comments: 53 Ahead of pivotal Senate hearing, witnesses surface to say Christine Ford may have mistaken them for Kavanaugh Ahead of pivotal Senate hearing, witnesses surface to say Christine Ford may have mistaken them for Kavanaugh Click for Full Text! Poster Comment: Whoops. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: redleghunter (#0) And I called it! Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-27   1:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: redleghunter (#0) https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/09/27/senate-staff-talked-to-men-who-believe-they-not-kavanaugh-had-1982-encounter-with-ford-docs-show Senate staff talked to men who believe they, not Kavanaugh, had 1982 encounter with Ford, docs show Aaron Cohen Staff Writer The Blaze Two men have told Senate Judiciary Committee staffers that they believe they — not Judge Brett Kavanaugh — had the sexual encounter with Christine Blasey Ford which is the basis of her sexual assault allegation against the Supreme Court nominee. Documents released by majority members of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday evening threw a new wrinkle into the accusations against Kavanaugh, the night before he and Ford are scheduled to testify about the situation. Republican members of the committee released a summary timeline of staff activities related to the numerous sexual misconduct allegations against Kavanaugh. The timeline includes several bullet points that indicate two men have said Kavanaugh did not sexually assault Christine Blasey Ford at a 1982 party — because they did it. Daily Mail political editor David Martosko posted screenshots from the timeline on Twitter, highlighting these key items. https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/1045141912863338496/photo/1 https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/1045141912863338496 David Martosko @dmartosko Whoa. Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans say they have spoken to two men who think they, not Kavanaugh, had the 1982 encounter that formed the basis for her sexual abuse claim. (These tables are from a timeline the committee majority published 15 minutes ago.) 9:43 PM - Sep 26, 2018 What did the documents say? From Sept. 24: Committee staff have first interview with a man who believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter with Dr. Ford in 1982 that is the basis of his complaint. He submitted a written statement earlier in the day. From Sept. 25: Committee staff have a second interview with a man who believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter with Dr. Ford in the summer of 1982 that is the basis of her allegation. He described his recollection of their interaction in some detail. And from Sept. 26: Committee staff receive a more in-depth written statement from the man interviewed twice previously who believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter in question with Dr. Ford. Committee investigative staff spoke via phone with another man who believes he, not Judge Kavanaugh, had the encounter with Dr. Ford in 1982 that is the basis of her allegation. He explained his recollection of the details of the encounter. [...] [FUN VIDEO] https://mobile.twitter.com/ShemekaMichelle/status/1045041991321624576/video/1 Get some popcorn ready for the morning. nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-27   1:28:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: redleghunter (#0) There's still a couple of hours left before the hearing starts. Why are they coming forward so soon? misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-27   9:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: redleghunter (#0) Kavanaugh’s statement was a master stroke. He won the day. He will be confirmed. And on the heels of it, the Republicans will gain momentum. Rosenstein will give Trump and the GOP a favorable October Surprise, and the Republicans will hold both houses of Congress. You saw it here first. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-09-27   21:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Vicomte13 (#4) Yeah that was a powerful Irish Catholic response. :) redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-27   21:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Vicomte13 (#4) Kavanaugh’s statement was a master stroke. He won the day. He will be confirmed. I have my doubts. Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-27   22:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Fred Mertz (#6) All of the Republicans will vote for Kavanaugh. At least one Democrat will also. Probably Minchin. Vicomte13  posted on  2018-09-27   22:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: redleghunter (#5) (Edited) Yeah that was a powerful Irish Catholic response. :) Now all they need to do is a few polls showing the Democrat senators in red states behind in their races and he will be confirmed quite easily. Thought you might like this: https://spectator.org/no-contest-kavanaugh-vs-the- committtee/?utm_source=Spectator+A.M.+Top+1000&utm_campaign=f7a42bd7c5- EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_09_28_04_02&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f50eb1ac8a- f7a42bd7c5-104621425 Christine Blasey Ford helped herself, but not nearly as much as Brett Kavanaugh did himself. If Brett Kavanaugh wins confirmation to the Supreme Court, he can thank himself. With nobody willing to say “boo” to Christine Blasey Ford, Kavanaugh’s accuser appeared credible, nice, and likable in her testimony. She did not filibuster in her answers. Her voice, with its high pitch and uptalk inflections, sounded not like that of a fiftysomething woman but of a teenage girl — helping senators imagine the teenage girl she was 36 years ago. In contrast, she used “sequalae,” “hippocampus,” and other ten-cent words indicative of an intelligent woman (but strangely needed an explanation on “exculpatory”). She firmly maintained that she knew with “100 percent” certainty that the man looking for a seat on the Supreme Court used her as a mattress all those years ago. She helped her cause. So did the peculiar manner that Republicans chose to question her. Don’t blame Rachel Mitchell entirely. Blame the eleven men hiding behind her. Whereas Democrats constantly interrupted Kavanaugh and turned the hearings into chaos earlier this month, Republicans on the committee did not utter a peep to Ford on Thursday. This strategy had everything to do with protecting themselves and nothing to do with protecting Kavanaugh, Ford, or the truth. Mitchell’s questioning centered on matters on the periphery. Her body language wisely spoke in a warm tone. But her words focusing on the alleged incident, the only thing that really mattered, came infrequently. Mitchell’s best moment interrogating Ford occurred when she exposed her stated fear-of-flying excuse for rebuffing initial attempts to bring her to Washington as lame. The prosecutor asked how Ford traveled to visit her family this summer. She admitted she flew from the West Coast to the East Coast. The prosecutor noted that her interests included Costa Rica, Hawaii, and points beyond. Did she ever travel to those places? Yes. How? Flying. Ironically, Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal, who manufactured tales of nonexistent service in Vietnam, tried to apply the concept of crimen falsi, which broadly means that one who lies about one thing impugns his or her credibility on another thing, to Kavanaugh. Ford’s less-than-honest answers on aviophobia, and hard-to-believe contention that she did not realize what everybody else knew — that the committee offered to interview her in California — raised issues of crimen falsi, but just not in the way Blumenthal imagined. Though relevant, Ford’s fibs about flying did not speak directly to whether Kavanaugh jumped on her at a party in 1982. They spoke to her credibility, sure. But when your best moment as the questioner involves a moment that occurred more than three decades after the alleged moment then you missed your moment. Republicans surely missed their moment in the morning. Brett Kavanaugh seized it in the afternoon. The former football player executed a second-half comeback akin to the one Tom Brady engineered several Super Bowls ago in this Super Bowl of politics. A man who looked like a dead man walking when his turn began breathed life into Republicans. Politicians know a good bandwagon when they see one, and so several who had ceded their time to Mitchell in the morning came out swinging in the afternoon. Kavanaugh engineered the difficult task of showing passion as he employed logic. Gone were the coached, rote answers from his Fox News interview with Martha MacCallum. Tearfully, angrily, he noted that all of the people who his accuser names as witnesses do not corroborate her story. Even her friend, the former wife of Democratic Party strategist Bob Beckel, not only said under the penalty of perjury that she did not attend any such party, but that she has never even met Brett Kavanaugh. Skillfully, Kavanaugh targeted the Democrats on the committee who leaked Ford’s identity against her stated wishes. He exposed them as cynical, manipulative. Like Brendan Sullivan at a similar high-drama hearing a generation ago, Kavanaugh effectively declared himself no potted plant. Several Democrats, especially Cory Booker and Kamala Harris, took his bait, and in doing so exposed their hyper-partisan faces. The judge masterfully transformed a he-said/she-said into Kavanaugh vs. the Committee. That’s an easier fight to win. Forced to lay out the facts after Republicans continually opted to punt in the morning, Kavanaugh, with, yes, some earlier help from Mitchell, made a strong case. Ford said she did not know who paid for her polygraph. She said she did not know who drove her to or from the house where she says Kavanaugh assaulted her. She said she did not know where the alleged assault took place, “the Bethesda area” was as specific as she got. She said she did not know exactly when the alleged assault took place despite shifting from the mid-1980s to 1982. None of the witnesses she named said they remember any such party that she described. If her performance helped her cause, the evidence presented did not. A woman can only appear as credible as her story. Thursday ended where it began. But in between, everything changed. Christine Blasey Ford left a positive impression that appeared to doom Brett Kavanaugh. Then Brett Kavanaugh showed himself as a fighter — and one adept at dragging himself off the canvas at that. Democrats supporting Ford supported Ford by the day’s end and Republicans supporting Kavanaugh supported Kavanaugh by the day’s end, too. Given their bare majority, a party-line vote should determine the outcome. But a process filled with surprises surely offers a few more. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-09-28   7:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: CZ82 (#8) She's not credible. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-09-28   8:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: CZ82 (#8) Thanks, excellent article. Yep the Dems should be voting for Kavanaugh in spades. Why? If he is not confirmed he might just resign from the DC circuit bench and run a political action group to destroy demoRats. redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-28   12:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: nolu chan (#2) Already out of popcorn; Working on the sunflowers seeds and M&Ms. So let's say the two men who had the "encounter" with Ford do step forward and give their own testimony; And correct me if I'm wrong -- the statute of limitations doesn't apply... Does this mean Ford can be prosecuted/indicted for perjury? And can media and Dem Senators be sued for defamation? MOREOVER, IF the boys (now men) testify that a drunken Ford encouraged them to make her a "pin-cushion" and grabbed THEM and their private parts...THEN WHAT? (in your opinion of course?) Wow. This could get REALLY interesting. Liberator  posted on  2018-09-28   16:36:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Pinguinite (#1) And I called it! How long ago? ;-) After 36 years, her memory was predictably shaky and NOT credible. (except to "Men always lie/Women always tell the truth" DEMOCRATS/Totalitarian-Fascists.) This broad is damaged goods. I thinks we can all see that. (That she's a university Professor "instructing" young people is a scary notion. The panel treating her with kid-gloves, like she was a child reinforced this. BUT...was her, "I'm just a fragile, naive child!" demeanor an evil act?? Other questions: Did she KNOWINGLY lie? Was Ford LED to lie? If so, who else was involved in yet ONE MORE conspiracy by Democrats? Liberator  posted on  2018-09-28   16:43:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Liberator (#11) What's interesting is Montgomery Co MD County Prosecutor came out with a statement and letter that (1) for them to investigate Ms Ford's allegations, she has to file a report and (2) even though MD law now considers attempted rape (new age language sexual assault) as a felony with no statute of limitations, such a case in 1982 under the law was a misdemeanor offense with a statute limit of one year. All very interesting. 8 hours of testimony over what back then was a misdemeanor offense and would be treated as such even with a newer more strict law in effect. County Prosecutor, Police Chief Won’t Investigate Kavanaugh Without Complaint redleghunter  posted on  2018-09-28   16:44:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Vicomte13, sneakypete (#4) Kavanaugh’s statement was a master stroke. He won the day. He will be confirmed. And on the heels of it, the Republicans will gain momentum. Rosenstein will give Trump and the GOP a favorable October Surprise, and the Republicans will hold both houses of Congress. You saw it here first. I concur. But if not for Lady Lindsey, the verdict IMO was still up in the air. Can you believe this? I can't believe I'm suggesting it: Lady Lindsey may have saved the nation! (If only for the time being.) Liberator  posted on  2018-09-28   16:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: redleghunter (#13) MD law now considers attempted rape (new age language sexual assault) as a felony with no statute of limitations, such a case in 1982 under the law was a misdemeanor offense with a statute limit of one year. Thanks for clarifying, brutha... Hmmm...This appears to be a PC law designed to criminalize ALL MEN. How did this offense go from "Misdemeanor"/statute of limitations: one year to...NO Statute of Limitations for Fake/Wild Allegations? But...even MURDER has a statute of limitations. BIZARRO-WORLD. So...if proven to be "rape" AT THE TIME, is the law "Grandfathered"? The direction this nation is going will necessarily result in Jefferson's "necessary" scenario in fighting back against "Tyranny". Liberator  posted on  2018-09-28   16:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Liberator (#12) How long ago? ;-) I did it on 4um, around Noon local time, Sep 25. freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i?ArtNum=219606&Disp=2#C2 I have earlier posting speculating that it was mistaken ID. So I think I AM entitled to the door prize. After 36 years, her memory was predictably shaky and NOT credible. (except to "Men always lie/Women always tell the truth" DEMOCRATS/Totalitarian-Fascists.) There is the "MeToo" thing which does seem to foster the "War on Men" (TM). But False memories is a separate thing from simply having a shaky memory over time, and I think this fits the scenario perfectly. False memories are memories that a person was compelled to assemble that are different from actual facts. A person with a false memory would be honestly convinced of its authenticity so they would pass a lie detector test and otherwise act in the same way in regards to them as they would if the memory were real. The more people think about a memory over time, the more it can accumulate artificially added detail. In Ford's case, this possibility moots the significance of the claim that she mentioned Kavanaugh's name in 2012 as she still had 30 years to construct, deconstruct and reconstruct her memory. What I wanted Ford to be asked is how long before the event she knew Kavanaugh, or knew of Kavanaugh. If she was not familiar with Kavanaugh before that party, and then she was attacked by some guy that looked similar to Kavanaugh, then after a few more weeks learns about Kavanaugh and sees him looking similar to the attacker, then she could easily have created a false memory copying his face and identity into her experience. Maybe she would have only suspected and been not sure at first, but then with more time, with every hash and rehash of that memory, made it more and more real for her. Fast forward to today and she's magically 100% certain it was Kavanaugh. The question the dem asked her about her degree of certainly that it was Kavanaugh was completely worthless. Even if she had said she was 99.5% sure instead of 100% sure, the entire proceeding would have gone up in an uproar. She had no alternative to answer as she did. On the other hand, one question was very good. The one where she was asked what things about the attack she could never forget. She listed a bunch of things. The stairs, the laughter and so on. One thing was notably absent: The identity of her attacker, either by name or face. To me, that was a glaring omission. Other questions: Did she KNOWINGLY lie? Was Ford LED to lie? If so, who else was involved in yet ONE MORE conspiracy by Democrats? I think the other accusers are much more likely lying than is Ford. And one could ask this of Kavanaugh as easily as Ford. Pinguinite  posted on  2018-09-28   17:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Pinguinite, A K A Stone, all (#16) (Edited) I have earlier posting speculating that it was mistaken ID. So I think I AM entitled to the door prize. Now that I am satisfied with your time stamp, I hereby validate your door prize. AKA Stone is now authorized to award you with the much-coveted official 'Alaskan Sterno Flask', autographed by Yukon himself during his "I-WUZ-HACKED" episode. (still sure you were "first"? ;-P There is the "MeToo" thing which does seem to foster the "War on Men" (TM). Yup. "Me Too!" feeds the pandemic to starving female sociopaths and "avengers". Aacademia (supported by Soros Leftist/Alinsky-ites) have manipulated and legitimized this insanity. It's become a major weapon of the Left/Toxic Feminazi/Lesbian War on Men. Isn't all this talk and action over the fictitious "Toxic Masculinity" ostensibly just a clever Marxist ploy to herd the idiots-pods into giant ovens, destroying Western Civ and society in the process? How does an innocent man defend himself, his reputation, his honor from what WILL wind up as lies or gross exaggerations by psychotic, evil women? But False memories is a separate thing from simply having a shaky memory over time, and I think this fits the scenario perfectly. Yes, this distinction is crucial. I think YOU should have been sitting in on that Senate Hearing, posing your theories, asking YOUR common sense questions. False memories are memories that a person was compelled to assemble that are different from actual facts. A person with a false memory would be honestly convinced of its authenticity so they would pass a lie detector test and otherwise act in the same way in regards to them as they would if the memory were real. Which is exactly why Ford passed he test. And then there are immortal words of George Costanza: "Just remember...It's NOT a lie...if you believe it." The more people think about a memory over time, the more it can accumulate artificially added detail. Agree. I'm pretty sure we're all in the process of doing exactly this; embellished certain details in order to compensate for lost details. (That's why when old friends get together, most of us hear the phrase, "THAT'S RIGHT! I FORGOT THAT HAPPENED!" ) In Ford's case, this possibility moots the significance of the claim that she mentioned Kavanaugh's name in 2012 as she still had 30 years to construct, deconstruct and reconstruct her memory. AS she saw fit, from a personal narrative that necessarily erased her own adverse role while over-exaggerating in a negative light whatever minor role Kavanaugh played in order to fill out her mental account. It was as though this chapter of her life was a lost cake recipe that made for a horribly bad cake then; But after 30+ years, the "lost recipe" is now recalled as "delicious" as additional ingredient were added. I believe SHE may have been responsible not only as a "tease", but as THE sexual aggressor. SO SHE FLIPPED THE ENTIRE STORY. (again, I think you're right in that OTHER boys were involved, and due to her own wishful thinking based on politics, the accomplished Judge Kav became her Boogeyman.) So...If even a squeaky-clean SCOTUS candidate as Justice is not afforded Due Process and indicted simply on unsubstantiated words/lies, then WHO IS safe from character assassination BASED ON THESE FALSE/ERRONEOUS MEMORIES? Overriding Ramifications: Does this circus and legitimizing ancient re-constructed fictional accounts from ANY and ALL teenage girls mean you and I and the rest of us are "future criminals" as a result of their long-forgotten hand-holding "fails" as teenagers? Of any and every frivolous charge, validating even 36 year old false memories of hazy, drunken-stupor claims? Kavanaugh was a virtual relative altar boy. If this crap is allowed to be validated and stand, the Democrats/Fascists-Commies will have not only succeeded in creating national chaos, but criminalizing ONLY Conservative/Republican Men. (THE LEFT'S #1 GOAL) Liberator  posted on  2018-09-28   18:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: A K A Stone (#9) She's not credible. To answer your earlier question I think they were hoping to find a reason to pin her handlers/lawyers to the wall and say "See this is nothing more than a bunch of political bullschitt and we're going to hold you responsible". Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-09-28   18:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Liberator (#17) There is the "MeToo" thing which does seem to foster the "War on Men" (TM). Yup. "Me Too!" feeds the pandemic to starving female sociopaths and "avengers". It's nothing more than a way to attract "paid liars" to further the Leftard political agenda, this way the money can't be traced back to them only stupid voter base donors. This is something that needs to be shut down as soon as possible. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-09-28   18:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: redleghunter (#10) (Edited) Thanks, excellent article. Yep the Dems should be voting for Kavanaugh in spades. Why? If he is not confirmed he might just resign from the DC circuit bench and run a political action group to destroy demoRats. What would be better is a bunch of "victims" showing up at Dems re-election rallies accusing them of sexual misbehavior for the next 20 years or so. Pay backs are a bitch!! Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-09-28   18:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: CZ82 (#19) It's nothing more than a way to attract "paid liars" to further the Leftard political agenda, this way the money can't be traced back to them only stupid voter base donors. This is something that needs to be shut down as soon as possible. I agree. If Pubbies continue allowing this loophole (we can drive Mooseshell's azz through), treasonous Soros/Hollywood/Marxist $$$ + Go Fund Me = RIP USA. Total scam. OUR votes are being cancelled by bribes AND 20 million illegals. It's all insane. Shutting down the Dem's cash-cow scam is common sense; But you just know Pubbies won't because then Dems would retaliate by threatening to shut down *their* sources of Lobbyist cash. Liberator  posted on  2018-09-28   19:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#20) What would be better is a bunch of "victims" showing up at Dems re-election rallies accusing them of sexual misbehavior for the next 20 years or so. That would work, but it's hard convincing conservatives that their time is "well spent" going out of our way to destroy people -- yes, even when the people are wicked. (am I wrong?) OUR brethren don't believe in "Playing Dirty." WE believe in fundamental fairness, redemption, and in not living our lives mired in revenge, spite and hate. We won't exaggerate/lie in order to win the day. Democrats believe in cheating. In selling their soul, murdering babies, and yes, live their lives mired in the muck and mud, and spite and hate. And obviously using lies and defamation of the innocent's reputation. DEMOCRATS/PROGS ARE ON A JIHAD. THY ARE TERRORISTS. (Not much difference between they are Islamo-Jihadists/Nazis). THE ONLY REASON Dems are making ANY positive headway in the realm of Public Opinion is their near-total monopoly of Media -- whether TV, Social Media (now they censor and eliminate effective conservatives), of Movies, Academia, and even many Corporations. They own and control Communications. They've used the Deep State/FBI/Feral LE Agys as "Enforcers". (Don't know if that's still the case post-0bama). Unless they get punched in the face -- hard. Repeatedly. They will keep coming. Is THAT ever gonna happen? Liberator  posted on  2018-09-28   19:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: Liberator (#11) So let's say the two men who had the "encounter" with Ford do step forward and give their own testimony; And correct me if I'm wrong -- the statute of limitations doesn't apply... The statute of limitations does not apply to felonies. If the alleged misdeeds are classified as misdemeanors, it ran decades ago. I believe the statute of limitations does apply. Attempted rape was a misdemeanor in Maryland in 1982. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/amid-the-ford-kavanaugh-exchanges-have-the-local-police-been-asked-to-investigate/2018/09/27/7787d8c0-c297-11e8-a1f0-a4051b6ad114_story.html The most serious allegation that authorities could pursue, given the sworn testimony provided by Ford, would be attempted rape. But that was considered a misdemeanor in Maryland in 1982, and that would be the relevant legal standard. As a misdemeanor, the offense carried a one-year statute of limitations, meaning charges would have had to be filed within a year of an incident, according to John McCarthy, Montgomery County’s longtime chief prosecutor. Lisae C. Jordan, the executive director and counsel for the Maryland Coalition Against Sexual Assault, and other longtime Maryland lawyers interviewed in recent days concurred. The Maryland legislature changed the law in 1996, making attempted rape a felony and removing the statute of limitations, according to McCarthy and Jordan. “But we’d have to apply the law as it existed at the time of the allegations,” McCarthy said. Other possible charges, such as second-degree assault, remain misdemeanor offenses in Maryland and subject to a one-year statute of limitations, McCarthy said. “Based on all the allegations I’ve seen so far, there are a number of legal barriers to criminal prosecutions,” Jordan said. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Does this mean Ford can be prosecuted/indicted for perjury? I don't think she was competent to commit perjury and I don't recall such prosecutions for congressional testimony, even if the law provides for it. And can media and Dem Senators be sued for defamation? Senators, definitively no. They have immunity. Media may be held liable, but not for reporting he said this and she said that. It is a statement of fact that Kavanaugh was accused of attempted rape, weenie wagging, and involvement in gang banging. nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-28   22:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: Liberator (#11) https://www.scribd.com/document/389710351/Department-of-Police-Montgomery-County-Maryland-Ltr-of-28-Sep-2018-Kavanaugh-and-Statute-of-Limitations nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-28   23:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: Liberator (#22) Using their tactics against them is something they really hate so they'll either double down on sleazy accusations (allowing more voters to see how stupid they really are) or they will stop the idiocy,(doubtful) either way it's a win/win situation. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-09-29   9:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: CZ82 (#25) Using their tactics against them is something they really hate so they'll either double down on sleazy accusations (allowing more voters to see how stupid they really are) or they will stop the idiocy,(doubtful) either way it's a win/win situation. I agree...but only to a degree; It's only "Win-Win" IF we aren't stabbed in the back by a GOP that has proven to have sided with Democrats when push comes to (FINAL) shove. We happen to be THERE RIGHT NOW. In the long run we hope we are right in believing most Americans possess a shred of sense of propriety and fairness and are shocked by just how low, nasty, and evil the Dems and their co-criminal conspirators-terrorists are. Kavanaugh is being lynched in road daylight. With nary any defense from Republicans. I hope this galvanizes all decent people who realize THEY, their son, brother, father, uncles are now targets of this insane War on Men. More disturbingly, there is a War on Truth and the Innocent. Many in MSM deserve to be hung high. Libeling, slandering and defaming the innocent man in public like Kavanaugh is today version of tossing Christians to the lions at the Roman Colosseum. At Leftist-Dem media outlets they are still ridiculing Brett Kavanaugh as he lies bloody, his kneecaps smashed. I've being saying it for a long time -- we are at war. We will be forced to do what is necessary. CREATE JUSTICE. Liberator  posted on  2018-09-29   20:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: Liberator (#26) I hope this galvanizes all decent people who realize THEY, their son, brother, father, uncles are now targets of this insane War on Men. More disturbingly, there is a War on Truth and the Innocent. Especially when the Leftards fall back on the long refuted study (by Feminazis) that says "less than 2% of all rape/sexual impropriety allegations are lies". Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-09-30   9:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Liberator (#17) There is the "MeToo" thing which does seem to foster the "War on Men" (TM). Yup. "Me Too!" feeds the pandemic to starving female sociopaths and "avengers". https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/kavanaugh-accuser-getting-serious-cash- allegations-700k-hearing/? utm_source=Email&utm_medium=CVBreaking&utm_campaign=ct- breaking&utm_content=libertyalliance Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-09-30   9:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Liberator (#11) So let's say the two men who had the "encounter" with Ford do step forward and give their own testimony; And correct me if I'm wrong -- the statute of limitations doesn't apply... Does this mean Ford can be prosecuted/indicted for perjury? And can media and Dem Senators be sued for defamation? In THEORY,yes,it does. In reality,we are as likely to see the Clinton's arrested and convicted of murder as well as treason. Because we are only a free nation where everyone is treated equally IN THEORY. Some people are "too big to bust". In FACT,some groups,such as blacks,homosexuals,and women are "too big to bust OR EVEN TO QUESTION in 21st Century America. Short of a revolution,I don't see this ever getting any better,and getting worse as time passes. "The White Man" will be universally accepted as being at fault for everything that has ever gone wrong in all of recorded history,and be kept from any positions of power in the future. Not that the future will last all that long. Name ONE nation or group of people in ALL OF HISTORY that has accomplished more positive things than nations controlled and ran by white men. Or even ANY nation that has accomplished 10 percent as much. Eventually there WILL be a revolution and the slaves (white men) will revolt and start taking revenge as they take back the reigns of power. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-09-30   10:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: Liberator (#14) Can you believe this? I can't believe I'm suggesting it: Lady Lindsey may have saved the nation! (If only for the time being.) I'm still not sure that wasn't a trick of my imagination,and that maybe I just have had a mini-stroke. I sense a disturbance in the force. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-09-30   10:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: nolu chan (#24) (Edited) These fucking, self important scumbags, who feel they have the power and importants to start or request a LE agency to start an investigation, without being the actual victim, is amazingly IGNORANT. Criminal investigations require a VICTIM... and to be a victim, you must come forward and report that victimization to the appropriate agency (not a 100 year old bias cunt senator). The only exception would be if the victim is DEAD or unable, medically, to report. So... all you activist groups, here is a news flash. You are all like DICKTARD, little people. You have ZERO IMPORTANCE. You don’t matter, and nobody gives a shit if you’re sad, mad or triggered. Fuck off... get ready for Justice Kavanaugh. Get ready for him to now rule with a vengeance towards your causes. You deserve it for poking the bear. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2018-09-30   10:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: GrandIsland (#31) These fucking, self important scumbags, who feel they have the power and importants to start or request a LE agency to start an investigation, without being the actual victim, is amazingly IGNORANT. Right. Let's order some police department to investigate a possible rape of Jane Doe and gather statements for us to review. Even though Jane Doe didn't ask for an investigation and would rather they do nothing. Don't worry, Jane Doe. We'll keep it a secret. misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-30   11:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: GrandIsland (#31) get ready for Justice Kavanaugh. Get ready for him to now rule with a vengeance towards your causes. You deserve it for poking the bear. Like Maxine Waters said recently to cheers and applause: "All I have to say is this: If you shoot me, you better shoot straight. There's nothing like a wounded animal.” When Roe v Wade is overturned, I would not be surprised if Justice Kavanaugh writes the opinion. A big "FUCK YOU" to the Democrats. misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-30   11:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: misterwhite (#33) When Roe v Wade is overturned, I would not be surprised if Justice Kavanaugh writes the opinion. A big "FUCK YOU" to the Democrats. Exactly. When the snowflakes shit the bed, they deserve to sleep in it. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2018-09-30   11:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: misterwhite (#32) And btw... I’ve been trying to tell this forum and LP, FOR YEARS, this is the most important thing conservatives can do since the indoctrination of liberalism... place non-libtards on the USSC. Unfortunately, the kook Paultards of these forums would have rather sold the “lesser of two evil” horseshit and SPLIT the conservative vote... thus allowing the last two snowflake cunts to be placed. Why is it that the snowflakes are smarter than the Paultards? This is why the snowflakes appose Trump at every turn... and will stoop to no low, to prevent Kavanaugh. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2018-09-30   12:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: GrandIsland (#35) this is the most important thing conservatives can do since the indoctrination of liberalism... place non-libtards on the USSC. Yep. All of the major gains by liberals have been made through the courts. Gay rights, gay marriage, gays in the military, transgenders in bathrooms, removal of religious icons, removal of Southern monuments, flag burning, Title IX implementation, quotas in school admissions, hate crimes, civil rights protection of certain groups, accomodations for the handicapped, etc. I'm not saying all of these are bad. I am saying they should have been implemented by Congress, not the courts. misterwhite  posted on  2018-09-30   12:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: GrandIsland (#31) feel they have the power and importants to start or request a LE agency to start an investigation, without being the actual victim, is amazingly IGNORANT. Criminal investigations require a VICTIM... and to be a victim, you must come forward and report that victimization to the appropriate agency (not a 100 year old bias cunt senator). Yeah, you usually need a complainant, a dead body, or a victim missing and presumed dead. Also jurisdiction. The Columbia Country Club, about 7 miles from Ford's 1982 home, it's just over a mile from the D.C. border, and the party was somewhere near the country club. As Ford does not know where the party house was, she cannot affirmatively establish that it was in Maryland or D.C. Maryland raised the drinking age to 21 in July 1982. D.C. did not raise the age until September 1986, so there may have been an incentive to drink brewskis in D.C. starting in July 1982. In 1982, in Maryland attempted rape was a common law misdemeanor with a statute of limitations of one (1) year. Maryland is an odd state with common law crimes which derive from courts and not statutes. Common law misdemeanors may carry felony-like penalties, but they are misdemeanors for purposes of the statute of limitations. In Maryland, that is one year. Kavanaugh was a juvenile. Criminal investigations usually require jurisdiction and a crime that is possible to prosecute. The FBI generally does not do criminal investigations of state crimes. They do background investigations. They collect statements. They do not reach conclusions, they compile the statements and provide them to the requesting agency. They can investigate unusual matter when the President tells them to, as they are part of the executive branch. nolu chan  posted on  2018-09-30   20:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: GrandIsland (#31) So... all you activist groups, here is a news flash. You are all like DICKTARD, little people. You have ZERO IMPORTANCE. You don’t matter, and nobody gives a shit if you’re sad, mad or triggered. Fuck off... get ready for Justice Kavanaugh. Did you ever hear of the term proper etiquette? In English, you're still an ahole. Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-30   20:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: Fred Mertz (#38) Fuck off, Fred’s Ass Hertz I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2018-09-30   20:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: GrandIsland (#39) Ho-hum. Will Kavanaugh get confirmed or not? I would like your expert opinion. Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-09-30   21:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: Fred Mertz (#40) Of course. At the very worst, Trump has enough (R)’s for a tie... and the VP will cast the last YES. I hope Kavanaugh’s future decisions cause thousands of liberals to commit suicide. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح GrandIsland  posted on  2018-09-30   21:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: CZ82 (#27) Leftards fall back on the long refuted study (by Feminazis) that says "less than 2% of all rape/sexual impropriety allegations are lies". Liars, and the fake truth they lie about. Par for the course. Imagine LIVING with one of these nuts?? Liberator  posted on  2018-10-02   11:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #43. To: CZ82 (#28) (Page Not Found) Liberator  posted on  2018-10-02   11:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: sneakypete (#29) (Edited) In reality,we are as likely to see the Clinton's arrested and convicted of murder as well as treason. Because we are only a free nation where everyone is treated equally IN THEORY. Some people are "too big to bust". TRUE. Nice theory though, ain't it? Only Dick Nixon and Pubbies who do not collude/conspire/cooperate with Dems AND support the USCON, America First, and Truth are "Guilty". Or subject to actual laws. In FACT,some groups,such as blacks,homosexuals,and women are "too big to bust OR EVEN TO QUESTION in 21st Century America. Of course; Conversely, NO whites, heterosexuals, OR especially MEN are "too small to bust". We can clearly see who the Heathen-Establishment wants gone from the equation. Not that the future will last all that long. A "future" on THIS planet? THIS dimension? No. (You know where I'm going with this...) Short of a revolution,I don't see this ever getting any better,and getting worse as time passes. "The White Man" will be universally accepted as being at fault for everything that has ever gone wrong in all of recorded history,and be kept from any positions of power in the future. It's all coming to a head. AS PLANNED BY THE NWO-ELITES. They are fueling the fire. Name ONE nation or group of people in ALL OF HISTORY that has accomplished more positive things than nations controlled and ran by white men. Kenya? Wakanda? Eventually there WILL be a revolution and the slaves (white men) will revolt and start taking revenge as they take back the reigns of power. That IS...."In the year 2525...If man is still alive...." Liberator  posted on  2018-10-02   11:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: sneakypete (#30) (Edited) I'm still not sure that wasn't a trick of my imagination...I sense a disturbance in the force. Yes. And Lady Lindsey wasn't even acting when he unloaded. Without his husband, McStain, he's gotten his pair back. Hopefully he doesn't demure and back down. The "pro-gay" Left is now hammering him for his "Closet". Liberator  posted on  2018-10-02   11:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: Liberator (#43) (Page Not Found) It was about how much money was already in Ford's MeToo fund, probably over $1M by now. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-10-02   16:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: Liberator (#42) Imagine LIVING with one of these nuts?? Lot's of guys do I'd bet because if they ditched them the courts would rip their knickers in alimony payments. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-10-02   16:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #48. To: Liberator (#45) Hopefully he doesn't demure and back down. The "pro-gay" Left is now hammering him for his "Closet". I noticed that,too. How funny AND ironic is it for leftist homos to suddenly start attacking Lady Lindsey for being a homo? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-10-02   16:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: CZ82 (#46) It was about how much money was already in Ford's MeToo fund, probably over $1M by now. She's a scam-artist. Did you hear how she gave instructions at her house-business on how to beat a Lie Detector?? $600. credit card charge. This broad has some skeletons in her closet that te Feebs WILL expose. (which is just one reason why DiFi is trying to seal the Feeb's findings already). The third "accuser"? An old BF has claimed she was into gang-bangs. These Dems-Liars possess ZERO ethics and morals. Liberator  posted on  2018-10-03   11:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: sneakypete (#48) How funny AND ironic is it for leftist homos to suddenly start attacking Lady Lindsey for being a homo? Yup. The irony is thick. Nasty-lesbo Rosie leading that charge against Lindsey. Apparently every homo is also required to stay on the Dem plantation as well. RATS: are THE biggest hypocrites and liars on the planet. Liberator  posted on  2018-10-03   11:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: CZ82 (#47) Lot's of guys do [live with liberal nut-job wives] I'd bet because if they ditched them the courts would rip their knickers in alimony payments. Might just be worth it. Chained to a mad p*ssy-hatter for a life sentence?? I'd PAY to escape... Liberator  posted on  2018-10-03   11:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #52. To: Liberator (#51) Lot's of guys do [live with liberal nut-job wives] I'd bet because if they ditched them the courts would rip their knickers in alimony payments. Might just be worth it. Chained to a mad p*ssy-hatter for a life sentence?? I'd PAY to escape... Easiest thing to do is take them fishing about 20 miles out in the Gulf, kick them overboard and tell them to find their own way home. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-10-03   16:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: Liberator (#49) This broad has some skeletons in her closet that te Feebs WILL expose. (which is just one reason why DiFi is trying to seal the Feeb's findings already). I think they don't want the voters to know just how much they lied their asses off, problem is I'm not sure Lady Lindsey will go along with that. Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians! CZ82  posted on  2018-10-03   16:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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