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Title: Once Again, President Trump Is Magnificently Right—This Time About Russia
Source: PJ Media
URL Source: https://pjmedia.com/spengler/once-a ... -right-this-time-about-russia/
Published: Jul 16, 2018
Author: David P. Goldman
Post Date: 2018-07-16 19:51:31 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 9268
Comments: 69

Once Again, President Trump Is Magnificently Right—This Time About Russia

By David P. Goldman
PJ Media
July 16, 2018

President Trump offended the entire political spectrum with a tweet this morning blaming the U.S. for poor relations with Russia. “Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity,” the president said, and he is entirely correct. By this I do not mean to say that Russia is a beneficent actor in world affairs or that President Putin is an admirable world leader. Nonetheless, the president displayed both perspicacity and political courage when he pointed the finger at the United States for mismanaging the relationship with Russia.

Full disclosure: I was a card-carrying member of the neoconservative cabal that planned to bring Western-style democracy and free markets to Russia after the fall of Communism. As chief economist for the supply-side consulting firm Polyconomics, I got an appointment as an adviser to Boris Yeltsin’s finance ministry and made several trips to Moscow. Of course, the finance ministry really was a family office for Yeltsin’s oligarch friends, who were too busy stealing Russia’s economy to listen to advice. The experience cured me of the neoconservative delusion that democracy and free markets are the natural order of things.

Unfortunately, the delusion that the United States would remake Russia in its own image persisted through the Bush and Obama administrations. I have no reason to doubt the allegations that a dozen Russian intelligence officers meddled in the U.S. elections of 2016, but this was equivalent of a fraternity prank compared to America’s longstanding efforts to intervene in Russian politics.

The United States supported the 2014 Maidan uprising in Ukraine and the overthrow of the Yanukovych government in the hope of repeating the exercise in Moscow sometime later. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland pulled whatever strings America had to replace the feckless and corrupt Victor Yanukovych with a government hostile to the Kremlin. She didn’t say it in so many words, but she hoped the Ukraine coup would lead to the overthrow of Vladimir Putin. Evidently Nuland and her boss, Hillary Clinton, thought that the Ukraine coup would deprive Russia of its Black Sea naval base in Crimea, and did not anticipate that Russia simply would annex an old Russian province that belonged to Ukraine by historical accident.

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The Maidan coup was the second American attempt to install a Ukrainian government hostile to Moscow; the first occurred in 2004, when Condoleezza Rice was secretary of State rather than Hillary Clinton. As I wrote in Asia Times a decade ago, “On the night of November 22, 2004, then-Russian president - now premier - Vladimir Putin watched the television news in his dacha near Moscow. People who were with Putin that night report his anger and disbelief at the unfolding 'Orange' revolution in Ukraine. ‘They lied to me,’ Putin said bitterly of the United States. ‘I'll never trust them again.’ The Russians still can't fathom why the West threw over a potential strategic alliance for Ukraine. They underestimate the stupidity of the West."

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#1. To: nolu chan (#0) (Edited)

President Trump offended the entire political spectrum with a tweet this morning blaming the U.S. for poor relations with Russia. “Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity,”

And he didn't even have to mention the names Clinton and Gore. Everybody with a double-digit IQ that has paid any attention at all to the Clinton presidency knows exactly who he was talking about.

We had an honest-to-Gawd GENUINE opportunity to become allies with Russia on the level we are with England,but those two and the DNC backers were more interested in stealing all the wealth in Russia for their personal bank accounts than they were world peace.

It ain't like anybody thought the Russians weren't paranoid to start with,and with VERY good historical reasons,and what we SHOULD have done was dealt with them in an honest way and earned their trust. Instead we robbed them blind.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-16   20:18:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#1)

We had an honest-to-Gawd GENUINE opportunity to become allies with Russia on the level we are with England, but those two and the DNC backers were more interested in stealing all the wealth in Russia for their personal bank accounts than they were world peace.

It ain't like anybody thought the Russians weren't paranoid to start with,and with VERY good historical reasons,and what we SHOULD have done was dealt with them in an honest way and earned their trust. Instead we robbed them blind.

I agree. Except that it was not just Clinton and Gore. It was also the Right.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-07-17   8:30:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

I agree. Except that it was not just Clinton and Gore. It was also the Right.

I disagree. The Clinton Machine held the keys to that vault,and they weren't sharing with anyone not in their gang.

Then again,you may consider a LOT of the fascist left to be from the "right" because our news outlets and the Dim Party has convinced everyone that right-wingers are fascists,and that the left hates wealth.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-17   8:56:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#14) (Edited)

The Clinton Machine held the keys to that vault,and they weren't sharing with anyone not in their gang.

Plastics. That's the future.



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