On Wednesday, New Jersey police released bodycam video which sheds light on the viral beating of a young girl by a beach officer.
Wednesdays footage of a cop punching a young girl in the head as he holds her face-down at the beach and the confrontation which preceded the sandy grappling serves as a compliment to the video which made headlines over the last few days.
In the nine minutes of additional context, Wildwood police are seen engaging 20-year-old Emily Weinman as she soaks up sun with her 18-month-old daughter, a friend, and her daughters father.
After discovering alcohol near her beach blankets, an officer orders her to take a Breathalizer test. I know that didnt come up positive. I didnt take a drink of anything, she says.
One of the cops states shes going to have to pour out her alcohol.
Off-camera, either she or her friend explains, We didnt even drink alcohol. Youre allowed to carry alcohol if youre under age. You are. Youre not allowed to drink it. And were not drinking it.
The officers tell the girls theyre guilty of possession/consumption. Open display you can see [the alcohol].
Okay, you can see it, one of the girls admits. And were not drinking it.
The video goes silent for several seconds, seemingly muting more than just names.
Emily states what she clearly believes are her rights:
I didnt do anything to disrespect you. You cant lock me up. I didnt disrespect you. I didnt do anything to you. Youre mad because you thought we were drinking.
Then more exchange between Weinman and the cop:
Wheres your aunt?
Shes on her way. You can wait here.
Whats your last name?
You dont need my last name.
The boys in blue arent particularly impressed:
Okay, thats it. Im done with you. (to the other officer) Do you have cuffs on you?
Dont touch me!
Youre about to get dropped.
She backs away.
Dont f***ing touch me! What are you doing?
She appears to push at the officers chest as he closes in on her.
The video then cuts to the maybe-100-pound-girl girl screaming as the cop mounts her and is holding her by the hair. She yells, Theyre choking me!
After more struggle, the cop warns, Thats it, and begins fist-smashing her in the head.
Both the puncher and the punched are cursing.
Weinman now faces multiple charges, including two counts of assault on a police officer.
I can only imagine people are going to have very different opinions of the video. So much so, that I dont want to even give mine. Id prefer to simply read your thoughts in the Comments section below.
Ill share my view, nonetheless, as a catalyst:
Firstly, in my opinion, the girl comes across as a self-entitled brat who could probably use being taken down a few notches. Secondly, the cop appears happy to abuse his power and beat a young girl in the head.
This is not the job of law enforcement. It is not their charge, place, right, or job to teach people a lesson. Their job is only to enforce the law. With as little force as possible. In this case, at issue was a citation. Nothing more. Emily Weinman may be obnoxious. But that is not the business of a public servant who is paid to bring only his best to his position.
The longer this went on, the more I was hoping someone would accidentally kick her in the head two or three times or just light her up with a Taser for a half-hour or so.
I would never have the patience to be a cop and deal with these assholes constantly.
Really? Let's take another example of a class of gun laws.
How many states in this country allowed civilians to carry a concealed handgun lawfully 50 years ago?
How many allow CCW now?
The underlying facts of a crime don't change but the laws change all the time, state by state.
And that is a fact.
There ARE no facts in your brain fart. It only proves that what people like YOU call "Facts" are temporary things that change with the wind.
AND.......WTF is up with your rabid approval of a state ALLOWING someone to enjoy a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT?
Here is a little factoid for you,it is the nature of authorities,including cops and states to try to expand their power,and there is nothing they would forbid themselves from doing if it weren't for the US Constitution preventing them from overreaching.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Carrying is NOT consuming. Even you should be able to understand this.
So carrying narcotics is just fine as long as the cops don't observe you selling them or using them?
Alcohol is a powerful, addictive, regulated recreational drug.
If they are legal prescribed narcotics,the obvious answer is "YES!"
If they are illegal narcotics,as you so obviously want to imply,the answer is "No,and it would not be legal for them to be carried if the girls had been over 21,either.
Alcohol is a powerful, addictive, regulated recreational drug.
So what? Are you their daddy? Who died and gave you the authority to regulate who can and can not BE AROUND BUT NOT CONSUMING legal,tax-paid alcoholic beverages?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I saw no egregious use of force. The arresting officers acted lawfully based on what we have seen.
You are ok with a 200+ lb cop punching a minor female in the head that is on the ground?
Good to know.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
If they are illegal narcotics,as you so obviously want to imply,the answer is "No,and it would not be legal for them to be carried if the girls had been over 21,either.
. . .
So what? Are you their daddy? Who died and gave you the authority to regulate who can and can not BE AROUND BUT NOT CONSUMING legal,tax-paid alcoholic beverages?
You sure switched fast from "Of course, it's against the law" for narcotics and went to "you ain't their daddy" when it comes to alcohol.
We didnt even drink alcohol. Youre allowed to carry alcohol if youre under age. You are. Youre not allowed to drink it. And were not drinking it.
This is why the cops say nothing when they're detaining someone and they ask, "What I do?"
Because if they tell them they start spouting bullshit like this.
How many states in this country allowed civilians to carry a concealed handgun lawfully 50 years ago?
It does demonstrate the radical changes of the character of our society.
50 years ago if you were carrying concealed it was assumed you were the bad guy carrying it for nefarious purposes. Why else would you have a concealed weapon?
Today, there are numerous examples of why people carry concealed for defensive, not offensive, purposes.
Obviously I don't want to turn this into a CCW chat thread but it seemed like an example of radical changes in criminal law that have happened in a class of what were once uniformly serious crimes. In the case of CCW, the radical change in state laws has happened in just 25 years.
Obviously I don't want to turn this into a CCW chat thread
Especially after you bragged on the other thread how you stayed on-topic despite numerous posts.
"In the case of CCW, the radical change in state laws has happened in just 25 years."
The NRA deserves a lot of credit for that, I think. Plus the criminals, of course.
But the point is that there's no reason not to -- assuming you're a trained, responsible adult (even though most armed criminals aren't). It's hard to argue against self-defense, especially when that self-defense has the side effect of protecting others. Plus, no one knows you're armed, so they can't be offended.
Civilian open- carry is disconcerting. My nephew in Ohio open carries and when I'm there I feel unprepared for some upcoming shootout. Like, "What do you know that I don't know?"
The funny part is that he liked his girlriend's 9mm better as a carry weapon, so they swapped. But hers is powder blue and looks like a squirt gun. A 9mm squirt gun.
My nephew in Ohio open carries and when I'm there I feel unprepared for some upcoming shootout.
It's a right to carry but I really don't like open carry, don't like to see it. I don't even like to see cops wearing a holster.
If you want to carry, get a CCW and stop making gun-shy people nervous.
Of course, I'm sure I'm very much in the minority on this, at least on this forum. And I do live in a state with a fairly low barrier to get a CCW.
I also think that open-carry mostly hurts the gun rights cause more than it helps. I'm thinking of the rather aggressive open-carry nuts down in Texas especially. There's another bunch in California.
If you lived a few years ago you wouldn't believe in germs and you would be telling deckard that it is a conspiracy theory that the world is not flat. 🍿
God is not ABSOLUTE. God is relative to your capability & capacity to survive.
It's a right to carry but I really don't like open carry, don't like to see it.
I get nervous at a gun store when I see gang-bangers (well, they look like gang-bangers) handling firearms. I have this strange feeling we'll be meeting again.
I get nervous at a gun store when I see gang-bangers (well, they look like gang-bangers) handling firearms. I have this strange feeling we'll be meeting again.
Statistically, you're more likely to face off in a gunfight against someone of your own race. This is true for both blacks and whites.
You are several percent more likely to be killed by a black man than a non-black.
So while your thought of fellow gunshop customers as possible assailants is ironic, outside of some improbable circumstances you are still much more likely to be in a gun fight with another white.
I think you probably do know all of this already. John Lott and others have posted some well-known studies on gun violence for some years and the results regarding interracial vs. intraracial shootings is pretty consistent.
If she wants no interference from the state, then stay off patrolled state-owned property. Like the beach.
Ahhh,"The State" is your massa,and you are happy with that.
Good to know.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
50 years ago if you were carrying concealed it was assumed you were the bad guy carrying it for nefarious purposes.
HorseHillary! I knew several local businessmen that carried concealed weapons on a daily basis 50 years ago,and nobody thought anything of it.
Why else would you have a concealed weapon?
Uhhhh,to protect yourself from robbery and assault?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
HorseHillary! I knew several local businessmen that carried concealed weapons on a daily basis 50 years ago,and nobody thought anything of it.
I was at this country tavern out in the boonies about twenty years ago in the afternoon. The thing I noticed was this large .45 caliber revolver sitting next to the cash register against the wall, not the counter. The place had a reputation for rough types showing up. I doubt they were ever robbed though.
I think the name of it was The Black Cat. I had a beer or two with friends and a nice visit. Not sure if I'd want to be there after 11 p.m. though.
Supposes she was with her family and carrying the beer because her father was carrying the umbrella and towels,and her mother was carrying something else?
Suppose you came back into reality, fag patriarch.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Suppose you came back into reality, fag patriarch.
Suppose you eat shit and die,Fire Island?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
He made a lawful arrest and he was within his rights and his duty to uphold the laws.
The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for a law which violates the Constitution to be valid.
This is succinctly stated as follows: 'All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.' Marbury vs. Madison, 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803) 'When rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.'
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
Man, you gotta love how many men are in this thread cheering a girl getting beat up by a guy. I bet theyre all tough guys too. Lol.
Maybe they beat their wives as well, wouldnt surprise me, unless the only reason they dont is because their wives could beat the hell outa them. What a country we live in now, eh?
#74. To: Deckard, misterwhite, GrandIsland, sneakypete (#71)
Blah-blah-blah. You think a Class II Jersey beach cop is going to deliberate like Oliver Wendell Holmes while trying to decide to make an arrest?
Before you declare this woman more holy than the Virgin Mary, let's look at some other reporting on her little hobbies.
Weinman, a Philadelphia native, whose Facebook page is filled with photos of her young daughter, is facing several felony charges that could result in several years in prison if found guilty.
Wildwood Police are referring Weinman to the Cape May prosecutors office on two counts of aggravated assault on a police officer, and charges of aggravated assault by spitting bodily fluids at/on a police officer, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, obstruction and being a minor in possession of alcohol.
This is not Weinmans first run in with the law and not the first time shes been combative, according to court documents. In September of 2016, she was arrested and charged with burglary, simple assault, criminal mischief, criminal trespass and recklessly endangering another person. In November of 2017, Weinman pleaded guilty to misdemeanor simple assault and misdemeanor recklessly endangering another person. She was sentenced to serve four years of probation and pay just under $10,000 in court costs and restitution.
I saw her spit at the cop but I didn't think she spit effectively enough to hit him, more likely got a little spit on her own boobs or the sand.
I was at this country tavern out in the boonies about twenty years ago in the afternoon. The thing I noticed was this large .45 caliber revolver sitting next to the cash register ...
You can read Weinmans full, now-deleted Facebook post below:
So, I decide to go on the beach with my daughter, her father and friend. I had alcohol, its Memorial Day weekend and 90 percent of people are underage drinking on the beach, without a doubt. Two cops approach me on a their four wheelers and ask me and my friend how old we are, we gave them our ages. Then, we got breathalized, and it came back negative. I told them I wasnt drinking and the alcohol was clearly closed/sealed, which the cops seen. They still stayed, the one cop following me when I walked away to go make a phone call after they did what they had to do.. like okay, they did their job and I cooperated🤔🤦🏻♀️ Therefore I asked them dont they have something better to do as cops than to stop people for underage drinking on the beach, saying to that theres so much more serious stuff going on the cop said, I was gonna let you go but now Ill write you up and he asked my name.
I did not do anything wrong and anything couldve been written down on that paper so I wouldnt give it to him. At that point I was told if I dont give it to him hes going to arrest me. I told him I have my 18 month old daughter with me and theres no need for all of it and that again, Im not gonna give him my information knowing I didnt do anything wrong. He told me hes arresting me and started coming towards me to put handcuffs on me. I cautiously was backing up from him (facing him) and yelled for my daughters father. (he was playing in the ocean with our daughter at the time).. I tripped and fell and the cop tackled me to the ground and smashed my head into the sand. At that point I blacked out and fought any way possible trying to get up and push him off me. Thats when he head locked me me by his arm around my neck, punched on me in my head and then he head locked me again but this time choking me, I was gasping for ear.
Yes, i know I shouldve gave him my name.. I was partly wrong in a way but I was scared; Like I said I didnt do anything wrong and anything couldve been written on that paper, the whole situation was iffy and I didnt trust it.. especially being aware of the fact of how grimy law enforcement can be now a days. & honestly, I can say if I took even a sip, then I wouldve gave them my information and called it a day; Im underage, so I know better. But this whole situation was handled wrongly and blew out of proportion all because these pigs didnt do their jobs the way they were TRAINED to do so. maybe thats just how they train them nowadays, who knows with the world we live in today🤷🏻♀️
Now, Im over here with a sore body, banging headache and the thought of ever trusting a police officer again if anything were to happen in the future. Thats what we call them for right?🤦🏻♀️ We are supposed to feel safe and trust our police officers for anything. Oh, did I mention that they didnt even take the beer (like theyre supposed to since we were underage) and finish getting my friends info?? They obviously were there to stir the pot. I know Im not the first this happened too and definitely am sure that I will not be the last!!
So she admits that it was her alcohol and defends it by alleging that 90% of the young people on the beach were also minors in possession. The mayor was interviewed too, "Troiano told local media underage drinking is a problem. 'I dont understand why it seems to be that this is a God-given right that they can come here and drink underage,' he said." Obviously, this is another major beach with problems of rising lawlessness as we have seen around the country in recent years.
Wildwood Chief of Police Robert N. Regalbuto told local media, From what I see on the video and only on the video, from not even talking to the officers, I think they did a decent job.
Cannon, Nillman and Jordan are seasonal cops. Earning just $10 an hour, NJ.com says, theyre called Class II officers who get the same training as police recruits. To qualify for the job they must be 18, have a high school diploma and pass a background check.
In its initial statement Sunday, the department said it has received reports of a video on various social media sources, regarding an incident that occurred on the Wildwood beach yesterday afternoon with our officers.
So these are just summer beach cops, with minimal police training. Security guards with a badge. Maybe they're hoping to hired by a PD. You kinda notice the police chief is trying to be supportive but maybe he's not fighting for these seasonal cops like he would for his full-timers.
Like any police incident, the who/what/where/when starts to give you a better picture of the incident. I'm not sure whether it's ordinary or not for seasonal beach cops to be as aggressive as this. Maybe some of the public resentment is due to the fact that they are seasonal cops, not full-time cops or deputies who have a lot more training.
Supreme court decisions lol. I'm talking about the true law the constitution. Not a bunch of freaks opinions.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."