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To: sneakypete (#10) I like being on your side instead of against you. :) A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: buckeroo (#12) He can't re-allocate Congressional funding for his own pet projects. He would get impeachment. He DOESN'T HAVE TO RE-ALLOCATE THE FUNDS BECAUSE THE FUNDING IS ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THE ACTIVE DUTY AND THE RESERVE MILITARY UNITS. He also doesn't have to ask permission of ANYBODY to send reserve or active duty military units anywhere in the US,either. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: A K A Stone (#14) Page Not Found! Either something went wrong or the page doesn't exist anymore. Go Home About U.S. News Newsletters Contact Press Advertise Jobs Copyright 2018 © U.S. News & World Report L.P. Terms and Conditions Privacy Policy Bad Link In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: All (#17) docs.house.gov/billsthisw...PSSOM%20FY18-OMNI.OCR.pdf A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: sneakypete, buckeroo (#2) There is no specific allocation of funds for building a wall. Trump is full of shit. As much as I hate to agree with bucky, I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall... So what's with this bait & switch? Willie Green  posted on  2018-03-25   10:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: sneakypete (#18) So, the US Army Corps of Engineers are going to have a 25 BILLION dollar training/exercise on the US border between Mexico? You have been smoking some wacky-tabacky, Pete. buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: A K A Stone (#17) I like being on your side instead of against you. :) It had to happen sooner or later,right? Sometimes different is good. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: sneakypete, buckeroo, tooconservative (#15) There is a repeal mechanism in a 1974 Budget Act statute. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-88/pdf/STATUTE-88-Pg297.pdf (Start at pages 36-37 of the download, under Title X, Sections 1100-) Congress has 45 days to submit items for rescission, and to vote. 5 posted on 3/24/2018, 7:08:15 PM by research99 A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: buckeroo (#1) "There is no specific allocation of funds for building a wall. Trump is full of shit." Is the military allowed to build a wall around the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed in Manbij, Syria? misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   10:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: Willie Green (#21) I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall... They pay later. Even if they don't and we get it who cares. It saves money. It saves our culture. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: misterwhite (#25) Is the military allowed to build a wall around the 2,000 U.S. troops stationed in Manbij, Syria? Often, you post the most outrageous ideas. Answer your own question while considering a method of comparative analysis. buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: sneakypete (#19) (Edited) https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/articles/2017-07-19/congress- slyly-diverts-pentagon-money-to-fund-donald-trumps-border-wall A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: A K A Stone (#20) docs.house.gov/billsthisw...PSSOM%20FY18-OMNI.OCR.pdf That's true,but it doesn't really apply since he wouldn't be sending US troops anybody but in the US. Yeah,Texas,especially around Austin,and all of California can be more than a little foreign to sane people,but they are STILL US states. I repeat,NO President has to ask anybody for a single damn thing to see American troops anywhere in America,and to even suggest he would have to get permission to send them to Texas,Arizona,California,or any other American state to do construction projects as part of their annual training mission is absurd. Don't believe me,ask anybody that ever served on active or reserve duty with ANY branch of the US Military. It's been decades since I even looked at any of my printed assignment or transfer orders,but IIRC,EVERY ONE OF THEM had "by order of the President of the United States......" on them. How many of you loons think that either/both LBJ or Nixon took time of their day to think to themselves,"what I really need to do today is write up some orders to send Sgt Sneakypete somewhere!" PRESIDENTS HAVE THIS AUTHORITY BY VIRTUE OF BEING PRESIDENT. IF Presidents didn't have this authority WHY didn't the left file lawsuits against LBJ and Nixon during the VN war to keep them from sending troops to VN or anywhere else? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:28:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: buckeroo (#27) Answer your own question while considering a method of comparative analysis. I'm guessing you would say they can't because Congress didn't specifically allocate the money for a wall in Syria, right? misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   10:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: A K A Stone (#5) We have to stop human trafficking and enemy combabants from crossing the border. And drugs. Like opioids. misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   10:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: sneakypete (#29) I repeat,NO President has to ask anybody for a single damn thing to see American troops anywhere in America,and to even suggest he would have to get permission to send them to Texas,Arizona,California,or any other American state to do construction projects as part of their annual training mission is absurd. But that isn't the question. It is the material support: bricks, mortar, cement, technical support and surveillance equipment. These material resources add up to BILLIONS of bucks. That requires Congressional approval. buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Willie Green (#21) As much as I hate to agree with bucky, I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall... He was,and maybe will down the road by using taxes/tarriffs on anything entering the US from Mexico. Right now he has to do what is possible,which is not necessarily the same thing as what he wants to do. So what's with this bait & switch? Why are you asking me? Ask the Party People in the alleged Republican Party and their brothers in the Dim Party. In FACT,why even blame Trump for this? Yeah,he ran for president with this being a large part of his platform,but who can blame him for ASSUMING that a Republican Congress would go along with a newly elected Republican President,instead of joining hands with the left in a Kumbaya Moment? Blame the traitors in congress with R's behind their names,and their treasonous supporters, In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: misterwhite (#30) I'm guessing you would say they can't because Congress didn't specifically allocate the money for a wall in Syria, right? I don't know why the USA is involved in Syria, to begin with. But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress. buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: All (#28) https://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/articles/2017-07- 19/congress-slyly-diverts-pentagon-money-to-fund-donald-trumps-border-wall I keep copying the same link. It works then it doesn't. If it doesn't try googleing Building a Wall in the Dark Congress is using budget shenanigans to funnel Pentagon money to President Trump’s border wall. By Ryan Alexander A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:35:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: buckeroo (#22) So, the US Army Corps of Engineers are going to have a 25 BILLION dollar training/exercise on the US border between Mexico? No,shithead,THE US MILITARY will be using money from their annual budgets to build the wall. Granted,the US Army Corps of Engineers will probably head up the effort because they are the largest engineering unit in the military and have the most officers and NCO's that are qualified to supervise the job,but the US Navy,USAF,and the USMC will also be involved. Especially the reserve units. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:38:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: A K A Stone (#26) I thought Trump was supposed to make MEXICO pay for the wall... They pay later. Even if they don't and we get it who cares. It saves money. It saves our culture. Bucky just wants to whine. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:39:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: buckeroo (#32) That requires Congressional approval. Read my links. They gave the President the power to realocate funds in 1985 to fight the deficit. A K A Stone  posted on  2018-03-25   10:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: sneakypete (#36) You are a little touchy, today. But, let's go back to details: there is no specific allocation of Congressional approval for a 25 BILLION dollar wall. Trump is smoking the same wacky-tabaky that you are. buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: A K A Stone (#26) It saves our culture. Jorge Dubya Arbusto flushed that down the toilet a long time ago & there's no going back. Willie Green  posted on  2018-03-25   10:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: buckeroo (#32) But that isn't the question. It is the material support: bricks, mortar, cement, technical support and surveillance equipment. These material resources add up to BILLIONS of bucks. That requires Congressional approval. Yeah,it is. Unless you think maybe the bricks,mortar,cement,etc,etc,etc will dig and pour the footings,build the forms,and pour the cement themselves. I don't want to shock you,but that comes out of the defense budget. How did you think the military engineers train without bricks,mortar,etc,etc,etc? The ONLY way to learn to build something is to build something. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: buckeroo (#34) I don't know why the USA is involved in Syria, to begin with. I have to admit that is a mystery to me and many other people,also. But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress. Of course there was/is. It is a unplanned (in more ways than one,it seems)military movement to a foreign nation. In other words,it wasn't funded in the annual budget. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:45:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #43. To: buckeroo (#39) You are a little touchy, today. Yeah,I am.I am fed UP with the constant whining by RINO bitches about anything and everything Trump does or says in an effort to make his presidency fail. If Trump came out in favor of sunshine,you shitheads would suddenly hate it and call him a traitor to "truth,justice,and the 'murikan way of electing RINO slugs". But, let's go back to details: Ok. there is no specific allocation of Congressional approval for a 25 BILLION dollar wall. Nor does there have to be,dummy! Civilians aren't being hired to build it. The US Military will be building it AS A PART OF THEIR NORMAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING,AND THE MONEY TO PAY THEM HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED. DAYUM,how many times does this simple fact have to be explained to you? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: sneakypete (#42) A permanent structure authorized by the POTUS does not require Congressional approval by Congress for funding? Where did you hear about this idea? buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: Willie Green (#40) Jorge Dubya Arbusto flushed that down the toilet a long time ago & there's no going back. With MUCHO help from his fellow travelers who dream of a Global World Government that has everyone under their thumb. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:52:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: sneakypete (#43) Nor does there have to be,dummy! Civilians aren't being hired to build it. The US Military will be building it AS A PART OF THEIR NORMAL OCCUPATIONAL TRAINING,AND THE MONEY TO PAY THEM HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED. You have missed the obvious details, Pete. Where is the approval of funding for the bricks & mortar? buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   10:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: buckeroo (#44) A permanent structure authorized by the POTUS does not require Congressional approval by Congress for funding? Where did you hear about this idea? Ok,you are living proof that you can lead a jackass to water,but you can't make him drink. Go back to eating your boogers and leave the rest of us alone. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   10:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #48. To: A K A Stone (#0) I actually think this is a brilliant Strategy. Out of the box thinking you only see on the left because the right is to afraid to push the limit for its voters for offending the left! I'm not a sure how it works constitutionally. But it is in the interest of national defense to build the wall then the military can have this wall built. Justified  posted on  2018-03-25   11:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: buckeroo (#46) (Edited) You have missed the obvious details, Pete. Where is the approval of funding for the bricks & mortar? I have already explained to you it comes out of the annual training budget. If you can't understand something as basic as engineers need building materials to train,and that those building materials are a part of the normal military budget,there is no hope for you. BTW,don't even TRY a dumbass "Duuuuuhhhh,iz day iny bricks in de budgit n kin yew sho dim to me?" question. Overall budgets don't name specific items. There is a section that will have a title something like "construction materials for proposed training projects",but that is about as specific as it gets for an annual budget. Annual budgets HAVE to be flexible because no one can predict what will happen in the future. But you really know all this,anyhow. You just want to whine about Trump. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2018-03-25   11:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: Justified (#48) But it is in the interest of national defense to build the wall then the military can have this wall built. Congress declares war. Congress allocates the budget. It isn't based on some insane idea of Presidential dictatorial powers. buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   11:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: buckeroo (#3) Hey, pal, that means he has declared a WAR on the US border between Mexico/USA. Wow. That's as dumb as a democRat. Hank Rearden  posted on  2018-03-25   11:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #52. To: sneakypete (#49) I have already explained to you it comes out of the annual training budget. If you can't understand something as basic as engineers need building materials to train,and that those building materials are a part of the normal military budget,there is no hope for you. 25 BILLION USD for a couple of years? Who are you kidding when the US Defense Department is about 600 Billion. buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   11:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #53. To: buckeroo (#34) But, there is allocation of funding by this silly & stupid Congress. General military funding, sure. But not specifically for a wall in Syria. The President has the authority and obligation to protect Americans, right? Normally, he delegates this authority to the people below him. But he has the power to tell them speciically how to use that money. Nixon did in the (undelared) Vietnam War by ordering specific bombing missions on Hanoi (Operation Linebacker II) and targets in Cambodia. Johnson did it with Operation Rolling Thunder. misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   11:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #54. To: misterwhite (#53) General military funding, sure. But not specifically for a wall in Syria. When US personnel are intentionally placed in harm's way, as in Syria, it is understood. Presence of military in Syria is somehow approved by a stupid & silly Congress. On the USA/Mexico border .... no way. buckeroo  posted on  2018-03-25   11:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #55. To: buckeroo (#50) American has not been constitutional in a long time. I'm sure there is a way it can be done. For once let the president work for the people instead of special interest of selling out America. The problem I see is if Trump has it put up the next president can have it taken down or have no maintenance done on wall and then wink to the drug lords to blow it up. Justified  posted on  2018-03-25   11:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #56. To: buckeroo (#50) Congress allocates the budget. It isn't based on some insane idea of Presidential dictatorial powers. Hmmmm. Congress passed a drug budget, but Obama -- using his "dictatorial" powers -- refused to fund marijuana enforcement and directed those funds elsewhere. Seems to me that nobody, including you, had a problem with that. misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   11:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #57. To: buckeroo (#54) When US personnel are intentionally placed in harm's way, as in Syria, it is understood. The U.S. military invaded Grenada in 1983 "over concerns for the 600 U.S. medical students on the island and fears of a repeat of the Iran hostage crisis". Those students were not intentionally placed in arms way. misterwhite  posted on  2018-03-25   11:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (58 - 84) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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