[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

"Analysis: The Final State of the Presidential Race"

He’ll, You Pieces of Garbage

The Future of Warfare -- No more martyrdom!

"Kamala’s Inane Talking Points"

"The Harris Campaign Is Testament to the Toxicity of Woke Politics"

Easy Drywall Patch

Israel Preparing NEW Iran Strike? Iran Vows “Unimaginable” Response | Watchman Newscast

In Logansport, Indiana, Kids are Being Pushed Out of Schools After Migrants Swelled County’s Population by 30%: "Everybody else is falling behind"

Exclusive — Bernie Moreno: We Spend $110,000 Per Illegal Migrant Per Year, More than Twice What ‘the Average American Makes’

Florida County: 41 of 45 People Arrested for Looting after Hurricanes Helene and Milton are Noncitizens

Presidential race: Is a Split Ticket the only Answer?

hurricanes and heat waves are Worse

'Backbone of Iran's missile industry' destroyed by IAF strikes on Islamic Republic

Joe Rogan Experience #2219 - Donald Trump

IDF raids Hezbollah Radwan Forces underground bases, discovers massive cache of weapons

Gallant: ‘After we strike in Iran,’ the world will understand all of our training

The Atlantic Hit Piece On Trump Is A Psy-Op To Justify Post-Election Violence If Harris Loses

Six Al Jazeera journalists are Hamas, PIJ terrorists

Judge Aileen Cannon, who tossed Trump's classified docs case, on list of proposed candidates for attorney general

Iran's Assassination Program in Europe: Europe Goes Back to Sleep

Susan Olsen says Brady Bunch revival was cancelled because she’s MAGA.

Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report

Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence.

Tenn. AG reveals ICE released thousands of ‘murderers and rapists’ from detention centers into US streets

Kamala Harris Touts Mass Amnesty Offering Fast-Tracked Citizenship to Nearly Every Illegal Alien in U.S.

Migration Crisis Fueled Rise in Tuberculosis Cases Study Finds

"They’re Going to Try to Kill Trump Again"

"Dems' Attempts at Power Grab Losing Their Grip"

"Restoring a ‘Great Moderation’ in Fiscal Policy"

"As attacks intensify, Trump becomes more popular"

Posting Articles Now Working Here

Another Test

Testing

Kamala Harris, reparations, and guaranteed income

Did Mudboy Slim finally kill this place?

"Why Young Americans Are Not Taught about Evil"

"New Rules For Radicals — How To Reinvent Kamala Harris"

"Harris’ problem: She’s a complete phony"

Hurricane Beryl strikes Bay City (TX)

Who Is ‘Destroying Democracy In Darkness?’

‘Kamalanomics’ is just ‘Bidenomics’ but dumber

Even The Washington Post Says Kamala's 'Price Control' Plan is 'Communist'

Arthur Ray Hines, "Sneakypete", has passed away.

No righT ... for me To hear --- whaT you say !

"Walz’s Fellow Guardsmen Set the Record Straight on Veep Candidate’s Military Career: ‘He Bailed Out’ "

"Kamala Harris Selects Progressive Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as Running Mate"

"The Teleprompter Campaign"

Good Riddance to Ismail Haniyeh

"Pagans in Paris"

"Liberal groupthink makes American life creepy and could cost Democrats the election".


Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Bang / Guns
See other Bang / Guns Articles

Title: Rider Passed Protecting Military Firearms, Ammunition, and Components
Source: NRA/ILA
URL Source: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=5258
Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: unknown
Post Date: 2009-12-19 10:35:03 by sneakypete
Keywords: Surplus guns, Surplus ammo
Views: 46418
Comments: 106

With the holiday season upon us, and the end of the year fast approaching, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 3326—the Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2010. With the passage of this bill, NRA-ILA wraps up its appropriations work for the year.

Our efforts on the huge spending bill were rewarded with the restoration of a longstanding rider to protect M-1 carbines, M-1 Garands, M-14s, .22 caliber rifles, and others from being destroyed.

This language also includes a prohibition on the destruction of small arms ammunition and components, and a response to the short-lived concern over destruction of spent brass casings earlier this year.

Section 8019 of the bill reads: "None of the funds available to the Department of Defense may be used to demilitarize or dispose of M-1 Carbines, M-1 Garand rifles, M-14 rifles, .22 caliber rifles, .30 caliber rifles, or M-1911 pistols, or to demilitarize or destroy small arms ammunition or ammunition components that are not otherwise prohibited from commercial sale under Federal law, unless the small arms ammunition or ammunition components are certified by the Secretary of the Army or designee as unserviceable or unsafe for further use."

NRA-ILA would like to thank U.S. Representative John Murtha (D-PA) for his help in getting the rider restored and expanded.

To read the full bill, please click here.

Continued at link


Poster Comment:

Having been fooled too many times in the past I don't entirely trust the sincerity of the NRA,but I decided to post this anyway.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Comments (1-16) not displayed.
      .
      .
      .

#17. To: Nebuchadnezzar, sneakypete (#15)

I'm of the opinion that all those rifles above are far superior to the Garand.

LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.

eskimo  posted on  2009-12-19   14:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#15)

A M-1 as in "Garand"?

Be still my beating heart! Those things were mass-issue target rifles. I love em,love em,love em! I'd take one in a heartbeat over ANY issue battle rifle of today.

Over a M-1A? Over a PTR-91? Over a Vector Arm RPK-74?

I'm of the opinion that all those rifles above are far superior to the Garand.

Give me a FAL!

FAL

FAL

FAL

Other than that, I still want a Garand, because General Patton decreed it to be the finest battle implement ever made.

echo5sierra  posted on  2009-12-19   15:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: eskimo (#17)

LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.

M1 Garand = termite gun.

Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle and will take all sorts of ammo, unlike the finique Garand.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   16:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: echo5sierra (#18)

Give me a FAL!

FAL

FAL

FAL

A FAL is a far, far superior weapon to the Garand "termite" rifle.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   16:22:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: We The People (#11)

You really think the .22 is heavy enough?

It's not anybody's first choice for a military assault,but if you put the bullet where it needs to go it will do the job. There is a reason the military has been issuing 22 caliber pistols with silencers since prior to WW-2.

And,as I wrote earlier,a miss with a 44 is no deadlier than a miss with a 22.

I usually carry my own 22 Taurus snub whenever I go to town. I sometimes carry a 9mm Kel-Tec or my 44 Special snubnose,but I usually carry the 22. Mostly because I always already have it with me,but I am also confident that if I need it it will do the job. I normally carry it around my yard and in my shop because I live in a rural area,and poisonous snakes aren't that unusual (I even got bit by one last summer),and I have even had to shoot rabid coons twice.

The 22 is always the one with me because it fits easily into my pocket,and it's so light you forget it's there. If I thought I seriously needed a gun on any given day,I'd be carrying my 12 gauge Ithaca pump,not a handgun.

As always,the best gun to use is the one you have with you. Due to the low recoil,the relative lack of muzzle blast,and the cheap ammunition for target practice,a 22 is the gun she is most likely to be willing to take with her every day,and it is the one she is most likely to have shot enough to be able to hit something with it.

The long and hard trigger pull on the P11 is just to much for her.

The 22 revolver is both single and doubt action. If you have the time you can cock the hammer for a easier trigger pull,or you can just pull the trigger for a double-action shot. The double action trigger pull is longer and heavier than the single action pull,but it's still a lot lighter than the trigger pull on the Kel-Tec.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Joe Snuffy, We The People (#13)

As long as the perp isn't wearing lots of layers of heavy winter clothing

I don't let that worry me. I'd just put one in his eye and not worry about him anymore. With the low recoil of a 22,that's pretty easy to do,and followup shots come quicker than with a gun that does a lot of recoiling. A 22 anywhere in the head will pierce a human skull. No real need to put one through a eye socket. I'm just not the sporting gentleman I used to be.

Whatever you do get her...

Get her lots and lots and lots of RANGE TIME with the weapon of choice

Which is where the 22 really shines. Ammo cheap enough you can fire 500 rounds for what a box of 50 45 ACP would cost you,and recoil so mild she will be willing to shoot those 500 rounds.

Professional Instruction to go with it

Here is some REALLY good marital advise. DO NOT TEACH HER YOURSELF. Hire somebody else to do it. Seriously.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Joe Snuffy, (#14)

Smith and Wesson M351 Lt Wt. 22 Mag

The 22 mag is the next thing to useless. The ammunition is insanely expensive and you can't even buy it everywhere. On top of that,it just isn't that much more powerful for short range self-defense out of a handgun barrel.

A 38 Special with swaged 146 grain hollowpoints loaded backwards over some fairly stiff loads of Unique would be a MUCH better choice. I used to load some up for friends that lived in apartments,and they would expand to 72 caliber and not penetrate 4 inches of soft pine.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#15)

Over a M-1A? Over a PTR-91? Over a Vector Arm RPK-74?

ABSOLUTELY! By the time you get up close enough to hit me with those play toys,I will have been shooting pieces off of you for the last 400 yards. BIG pieces that a 30/06 will take off.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: eskimo (#17)

LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.

Even the target grade M1-A's rarely match the accuracy of a ISSUE M1 Garand. Rack grade Garands would shoot 1 inch groups at 100 yards with issue ammo.

It's a good thing he didn't offer me a BAR as a option,though. That's another one with the"reach out and touch somebody" feature,but it also has box magazines and a slow-fire option to the selector switch.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: echo5sierra (#18)

Give me a FAL!

A metric FAL is my number 2 pick.

Unless of course I get a M1918A2 BAR as a pick. Then the FAL falls to number 3.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:51:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Nebuchadnezzar, , *Humor* (#19)

M1 Garand = termite gun.

Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle and will take all sorts of ammo, unlike the finique Garand.

ROFLMAO! Ok,that one earns you a humor ping.

When you write stuff like that,you deserve to have people laugh at you.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#20)

A FAL is a far, far superior weapon to the Garand "termite" rifle.

LOL! For your sake,I hope you never get into a shooting contest at any range beyond 200 yards with a man carrying a Garand,or even closer if you both have good cover.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-19   18:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#24)

ABSOLUTELY! By the time you get up close enough to hit me with those play toys,I will have been shooting pieces off of you for the last 400 yards. BIG pieces that a 30/06 will take off.

What a crock sneaky. That termite gun is 50+ years, at best.

Archaic is the best term for that club.

8 rounds. What's up with that?

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   18:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#29)

8 rounds. What's up with that?

It only takes ONE well-placed round, numbnuts.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   19:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: sneakypete (#27)

ROFLMAO! Ok,that one earns you a humor ping.

When you write stuff like that,you deserve to have people laugh at you.

Well I'm still laughing over your laughable comments on the termite gun, aka Garand.

Looks like we both are having a good laugh today.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ibluafartsky (#30)

8 rounds. What's up with that? It only takes ONE well-placed round, numbnuts.

Right, sure, whatever.

I see you've either been hitting the sauce too much today or have been playing too much Call of Duty.

Iblowboys, why don't you leave this conversation to men?

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete (#28)

LOL! For your sake,I hope you never get into a shooting contest at any range beyond 200 yards with a man carrying a Garand,or even closer if you both have good cover.

Unless the termites haven't eaten that Garand for dinner you mean!

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#32)

Iblowboys

Hell, we all suspected you're a pedophile, numbnuts.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   19:15:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#34)

Sorry, you're the one with the name "Iblowboys".

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#35)

Iblowboys

It's all yours, pedophile. What a fookin moron you are.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-19   19:42:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#36)

Iblowboys It's all yours, pedophile. What a fookin moron you are.

Wow, you're clueless. All of us here find you disgusting.

You're the one boasting about blowing things pal.

You own it. It's yours.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-19   19:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#19)

M1 Garand = termite gun.

You should have just said that did not know anything about the Garand.

eskimo  posted on  2009-12-20   2:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#25)

It's a good thing he didn't offer me a BAR as a option,though.

LOL! Yes, I agree the M1918 is some serious hardware.

eskimo  posted on  2009-12-20   3:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#37)

You're the one boasting about blowing things pal.

I'm not your pal, pedophile.

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   3:11:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ibluafartsky (#40)

You're a fuckhead, fuckhead.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-12-20   3:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Fred Mertz (#41)

You're a fuckhead, fuckhead.

Hey Freddie, what do the tree huggers think about you sexually assaulting the knotholes? You fookin pervert!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   3:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#0)

You're Jewish? I had no idea.

See 4um for details.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-12-20   3:43:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#43)

You're Jewish? I had no idea.

See 4um for details.

I suppose it's possible for an American Indian to practice Judaism, perv Freddie, but the fookin morons at some forums like stormfront and dummies believe that anyone who isn't a complete asshole has to be a JOOOOOOOO!!!

What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2009-12-20   4:56:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#29)

What a crock sneaky. That termite gun is 50+ years, at best.

Archaic is the best term for that club.

8 rounds. What's up with that?

LOL! You must be about 18,with the gangsta spray and pray attitude.

Would it help of somebody put one out with a plastic stock?

As for 8 rounds,I don't need 8 rounds to hit what I'm shooting at,and I don't need 8 rounds to put it down once I start shooting at it. Especially not with a Garand. If 8 of you start coming at me with your beloved AK-47's from more than 200 yards away and I have a Garand,I will kill every one of you before you even get within reasonable range to start shooting at me.

"New" and "trendy" doesn't automatically mean "better".

Please note that the M2 BMG is still in service today,and it's older than the Garand. Or maybe you and your little friends would like to grab your squirt guns and come charged at me while I'm sitting behind the trigger of a M2? After all,it's OLD.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#31)

Looks like we both are having a good laugh today.

LOL! I guess! The only difference is only one of understands the issue.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: eskimo, Nebuchadnezzar (#38)

M1 Garand = termite gun.

You should have just said that did not know anything about the Garand.

Actually,he did. He just doesn't know it. That's why it's so funny.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#19)

Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle

LOL! That was hilarious!

The SKS is nothing more than a tool for untrained farmers and other cannon fodder. There is no way it even compares to the M1 Garand.

Sarajevo  posted on  2009-12-20   9:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#3)

A M-1 as in "Garand"?

I'm at work and can't post the link right now, but google the Civilian Marksmanship Program. If you meet their requirements, you can purchase an M1 Garand at a reduced price.

tri.army. mil/LC/CS/csl/ci..._marksmanship_program.htm

The link is in the lower left.

Sarajevo  posted on  2009-12-20   9:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Fred Mertz, White Sands (#43)

You're Jewish? I had no idea.

Me,either. Especially after having people at LP expose me as a anti-Semite.

Not to mention somebody that hates Jews.

See 4um for details.

It's amazing what you learn on the internet,ain't it?

Why,for example,I learned right here on LF last night thanks to White Sands that I am a Obama supporter and a DNC shill that has never found fault with Obama or any other Dim,and had never even made ONE single post critical of any Dim at any time.

Who knew?

That White Sands. He shore be knowledgeable and insightful,huh? With people like him supporting her,how can Palin lose?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Sarajevo (#49)

I'm at work and can't post the link right now, but google the Civilian Marksmanship Program. If you meet their requirements, you can purchase an M1 Garand at a reduced price.

Thank you. Mine just happens to be a 1943 Winchester version.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   9:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Sarajevo (#48)

LOL! That was hilarious!

The SKS is nothing more than a tool for untrained farmers and other cannon fodder. There is no way it even compares to the M1 Garand.

Sorry, the SKS continued to shoulder on for nearly 50 years AFTER the Garand had been "retired" to feed the local termite population in American firearms collectors.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   11:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#46) (Edited)

LOL! I guess! The only difference is only one of understands the issue.

Right!

And you don't realize that the US Army DUMPED the M1 for the M-14, but we'll stick with the M1A instead.

Tell me, Mr. Expert, how is the M1 Garand "superior" to the M-14 or M1A?

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2009-12-20   11:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete, Joe Snuffy (#22)

Professional Instruction to go with it

Here is some REALLY good marital advise. DO NOT TEACH HER YOURSELF. Hire somebody else to do it. Seriously.

I have taken her to the range probably 10 times, just to introduce her to firing a weapon. Multiple weapons actually. We started small and progressed from there.

This advice is the best yet and is something I had already decided on. LOL!

Thanks guys. BTW, I think I'll take your advice on the .22lr. Sounds like good solid advice. Thanks again.

We The People  posted on  2009-12-20   11:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#52)

Sorry, the SKS continued to shoulder on for nearly 50 years AFTER the Garand had been "retired" to feed the local termite population in American firearms collectors.

Just out of curiosity,who taught you all this nonsense?

It's obvious you have no personal experience with any of these weapons,or if you do it is very limited.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   12:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#53)

And you don't realize that the US Army DUMPED the M1 for the M-14, but we'll stick with the M1A instead.

You DO realize you are trying to debate military weapons with a former career US Army SF weapons NCO,right?

Not to mention a school trained gunsmith who has built custom rifles and even created his own wildcat round?

There are several people on this board who are qualified to debate this subject with me,but you ain't one of them.

Tell me, Mr. Expert, how is the M1 Garand "superior" to the M-14 or M1A?

You mean other than fit,finish,reliability,range,and accuracy?

And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.

Ok,and that is supposed to indicate what?

sneakypete  posted on  2009-12-20   12:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



      .
      .
      .

Comments (57 - 106) not displayed.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Mail]  [Sign-in]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Please report web page problems, questions and comments to webmaster@libertysflame.com