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Title: Rider Passed Protecting Military Firearms, Ammunition, and Components
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NRA/ILA
URL Source: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=5258
Published: Dec 19, 2009
Author: unknown
Post Date: 2009-12-19 10:35:03 by sneakypete
Keywords: Surplus guns, Surplus ammo
Views: 46398
Comments: 106
With the holiday season upon us, and the end of the year fast approaching, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R. 3326—the Department of Defense Appropriations Act of 2010. With the passage of this bill, NRA-ILA wraps up its appropriations work for the year. Our efforts on the huge spending bill were rewarded with the restoration of a longstanding rider to protect M-1 carbines, M-1 Garands, M-14s, .22 caliber rifles, and others from being destroyed. This language also includes a prohibition on the destruction of small arms ammunition and components, and a response to the short-lived concern over destruction of spent brass casings earlier this year. Section 8019 of the bill reads: "None of the funds available to the Department of Defense may be used to demilitarize or dispose of M-1 Carbines, M-1 Garand rifles, M-14 rifles, .22 caliber rifles, .30 caliber rifles, or M-1911 pistols, or to demilitarize or destroy small arms ammunition or ammunition components that are not otherwise prohibited from commercial sale under Federal law, unless the small arms ammunition or ammunition components are certified by the Secretary of the Army or designee as unserviceable or unsafe for further use." NRA-ILA would like to thank U.S. Representative John Murtha (D-PA) for his help in getting the rider restored and expanded. To read the full bill, please click here. Continued at link
Poster Comment: Having been fooled too many times in the past I don't entirely trust the sincerity of the NRA,but I decided to post this anyway.
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#15. To: sneakypete (#3)
Be still my beating heart! Those things were mass-issue target rifles. I love em,love em,love em! I'd take one in a heartbeat over ANY issue battle rifle of today. Over a M-1A? Over a PTR-91? Over a Vector Arm RPK-74? I'm of the opinion that all those rifles above are far superior to the Garand.
Thanks Joe. I appreciate the advice.
LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.
Be still my beating heart! Those things were mass-issue target rifles. I love em,love em,love em! I'd take one in a heartbeat over ANY issue battle rifle of today. Over a M-1A? Over a PTR-91? Over a Vector Arm RPK-74? I'm of the opinion that all those rifles above are far superior to the Garand. Give me a FAL! FAL FAL FAL Other than that, I still want a Garand, because General Patton decreed it to be the finest battle implement ever made.
M1 Garand = termite gun. Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle and will take all sorts of ammo, unlike the finique Garand.
FAL FAL FAL A FAL is a far, far superior weapon to the Garand "termite" rifle.
It's not anybody's first choice for a military assault,but if you put the bullet where it needs to go it will do the job. There is a reason the military has been issuing 22 caliber pistols with silencers since prior to WW-2. And,as I wrote earlier,a miss with a 44 is no deadlier than a miss with a 22. I usually carry my own 22 Taurus snub whenever I go to town. I sometimes carry a 9mm Kel-Tec or my 44 Special snubnose,but I usually carry the 22. Mostly because I always already have it with me,but I am also confident that if I need it it will do the job. I normally carry it around my yard and in my shop because I live in a rural area,and poisonous snakes aren't that unusual (I even got bit by one last summer),and I have even had to shoot rabid coons twice. The 22 is always the one with me because it fits easily into my pocket,and it's so light you forget it's there. If I thought I seriously needed a gun on any given day,I'd be carrying my 12 gauge Ithaca pump,not a handgun. As always,the best gun to use is the one you have with you. Due to the low recoil,the relative lack of muzzle blast,and the cheap ammunition for target practice,a 22 is the gun she is most likely to be willing to take with her every day,and it is the one she is most likely to have shot enough to be able to hit something with it. The long and hard trigger pull on the P11 is just to much for her. The 22 revolver is both single and doubt action. If you have the time you can cock the hammer for a easier trigger pull,or you can just pull the trigger for a double-action shot. The double action trigger pull is longer and heavier than the single action pull,but it's still a lot lighter than the trigger pull on the Kel-Tec.
As long as the perp isn't wearing lots of layers of heavy winter clothing I don't let that worry me. I'd just put one in his eye and not worry about him anymore. With the low recoil of a 22,that's pretty easy to do,and followup shots come quicker than with a gun that does a lot of recoiling. A 22 anywhere in the head will pierce a human skull. No real need to put one through a eye socket. I'm just not the sporting gentleman I used to be. Whatever you do get her... Get her lots and lots and lots of RANGE TIME with the weapon of choice Which is where the 22 really shines. Ammo cheap enough you can fire 500 rounds for what a box of 50 45 ACP would cost you,and recoil so mild she will be willing to shoot those 500 rounds. Professional Instruction to go with it Here is some REALLY good marital advise. DO NOT TEACH HER YOURSELF. Hire somebody else to do it. Seriously.
The 22 mag is the next thing to useless. The ammunition is insanely expensive and you can't even buy it everywhere. On top of that,it just isn't that much more powerful for short range self-defense out of a handgun barrel. A 38 Special with swaged 146 grain hollowpoints loaded backwards over some fairly stiff loads of Unique would be a MUCH better choice. I used to load some up for friends that lived in apartments,and they would expand to 72 caliber and not penetrate 4 inches of soft pine.
ABSOLUTELY! By the time you get up close enough to hit me with those play toys,I will have been shooting pieces off of you for the last 400 yards. BIG pieces that a 30/06 will take off.
Even the target grade M1-A's rarely match the accuracy of a ISSUE M1 Garand. Rack grade Garands would shoot 1 inch groups at 100 yards with issue ammo. It's a good thing he didn't offer me a BAR as a option,though. That's another one with the"reach out and touch somebody" feature,but it also has box magazines and a slow-fire option to the selector switch.
A metric FAL is my number 2 pick. Unless of course I get a M1918A2 BAR as a pick. Then the FAL falls to number 3.
Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle and will take all sorts of ammo, unlike the finique Garand. ROFLMAO! Ok,that one earns you a humor ping. When you write stuff like that,you deserve to have people laugh at you.
LOL! For your sake,I hope you never get into a shooting contest at any range beyond 200 yards with a man carrying a Garand,or even closer if you both have good cover.
What a crock sneaky. That termite gun is 50+ years, at best. Archaic is the best term for that club. 8 rounds. What's up with that?
It only takes ONE well-placed round, numbnuts.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
When you write stuff like that,you deserve to have people laugh at you. Well I'm still laughing over your laughable comments on the termite gun, aka Garand. Looks like we both are having a good laugh today.
Right, sure, whatever. I see you've either been hitting the sauce too much today or have been playing too much Call of Duty. Iblowboys, why don't you leave this conversation to men?
Unless the termites haven't eaten that Garand for dinner you mean!
Hell, we all suspected you're a pedophile, numbnuts.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Sorry, you're the one with the name "Iblowboys".
It's all yours, pedophile. What a fookin moron you are.
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Wow, you're clueless. All of us here find you disgusting. You're the one boasting about blowing things pal. You own it. It's yours.
You should have just said that did not know anything about the Garand.
LOL! Yes, I agree the M1918 is some serious hardware.
I'm not your pal, pedophile. What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
You're a fuckhead, fuckhead.
Hey Freddie, what do the tree huggers think about you sexually assaulting the knotholes? You fookin pervert!
What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
You're Jewish? I had no idea. See 4um for details.
See 4um for details. I suppose it's possible for an American Indian to practice Judaism, perv Freddie, but the fookin morons at some forums like stormfront and dummies believe that anyone who isn't a complete asshole has to be a JOOOOOOOO!!! What's the difference between Racism_Boot's mouth and anal pore? There isn't any, they both spew gas and feces.
Archaic is the best term for that club. 8 rounds. What's up with that? LOL! You must be about 18,with the gangsta spray and pray attitude. Would it help of somebody put one out with a plastic stock? As for 8 rounds,I don't need 8 rounds to hit what I'm shooting at,and I don't need 8 rounds to put it down once I start shooting at it. Especially not with a Garand. If 8 of you start coming at me with your beloved AK-47's from more than 200 yards away and I have a Garand,I will kill every one of you before you even get within reasonable range to start shooting at me. "New" and "trendy" doesn't automatically mean "better". Please note that the M2 BMG is still in service today,and it's older than the Garand. Or maybe you and your little friends would like to grab your squirt guns and come charged at me while I'm sitting behind the trigger of a M2? After all,it's OLD.
LOL! I guess! The only difference is only one of understands the issue.
You should have just said that did not know anything about the Garand. Actually,he did. He just doesn't know it. That's why it's so funny.
LOL! That was hilarious! The SKS is nothing more than a tool for untrained farmers and other cannon fodder. There is no way it even compares to the M1 Garand.
I'm at work and can't post the link right now, but google the Civilian Marksmanship Program. If you meet their requirements, you can purchase an M1 Garand at a reduced price. tri.army. mil/LC/CS/csl/ci..._marksmanship_program.htm The link is in the lower left.
Me,either. Especially after having people at LP expose me as a anti-Semite. Not to mention somebody that hates Jews. See 4um for details. It's amazing what you learn on the internet,ain't it? Why,for example,I learned right here on LF last night thanks to White Sands that I am a Obama supporter and a DNC shill that has never found fault with Obama or any other Dim,and had never even made ONE single post critical of any Dim at any time. Who knew? That White Sands. He shore be knowledgeable and insightful,huh? With people like him supporting her,how can Palin lose?
Thank you. Mine just happens to be a 1943 Winchester version.
The SKS is nothing more than a tool for untrained farmers and other cannon fodder. There is no way it even compares to the M1 Garand. Sorry, the SKS continued to shoulder on for nearly 50 years AFTER the Garand had been "retired" to feed the local termite population in American firearms collectors.
Right! And you don't realize that the US Army DUMPED the M1 for the M-14, but we'll stick with the M1A instead. Tell me, Mr. Expert, how is the M1 Garand "superior" to the M-14 or M1A? And, since the M-14 first entered service in 1959, that would make it's tenure in the US Military some 50 years.
Here is some REALLY good marital advise. DO NOT TEACH HER YOURSELF. Hire somebody else to do it. Seriously. I have taken her to the range probably 10 times, just to introduce her to firing a weapon. Multiple weapons actually. We started small and progressed from there. This advice is the best yet and is something I had already decided on. LOL! Thanks guys. BTW, I think I'll take your advice on the .22lr. Sounds like good solid advice. Thanks again.
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#16. To: Joe Snuffy (#13)
#17. To: Nebuchadnezzar, sneakypete (#15)
I'm of the opinion that all those rifles above are far superior to the Garand.
#18. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#15)
A M-1 as in "Garand"?
#19. To: eskimo (#17)
LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.
#20. To: echo5sierra (#18)
Give me a FAL!
#21. To: We The People (#11)
You really think the .22 is heavy enough?
#22. To: Joe Snuffy, We The People (#13)
#23. To: Joe Snuffy, (#14)
Smith and Wesson M351 Lt Wt. 22 Mag
#24. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#15)
Over a M-1A? Over a PTR-91? Over a Vector Arm RPK-74?
#25. To: eskimo (#17)
LOL! In what way are those "far superior" to the Garand? Other than magazine capacity, I see nothing "far superior" as far as ballistics, accuracy, stopping power, reliability, etc. are concerned.
#26. To: echo5sierra (#18)
Give me a FAL!
#27. To: Nebuchadnezzar, , *Humor* (#19)
M1 Garand = termite gun.
#28. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#20)
A FAL is a far, far superior weapon to the Garand "termite" rifle.
#29. To: sneakypete (#24)
ABSOLUTELY! By the time you get up close enough to hit me with those play toys,I will have been shooting pieces off of you for the last 400 yards. BIG pieces that a 30/06 will take off.
#30. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#29)
8 rounds. What's up with that?
#31. To: sneakypete (#27)
ROFLMAO! Ok,that one earns you a humor ping.
#32. To: Ibluafartsky (#30)
8 rounds. What's up with that? It only takes ONE well-placed round, numbnuts.
#33. To: sneakypete (#28)
LOL! For your sake,I hope you never get into a shooting contest at any range beyond 200 yards with a man carrying a Garand,or even closer if you both have good cover.
#34. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#32)
Iblowboys
#35. To: Ibluafartsky (#34)
#36. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#35)
Iblowboys
#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#36)
Iblowboys It's all yours, pedophile. What a fookin moron you are.
#38. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#19)
M1 Garand = termite gun.
#39. To: sneakypete (#25)
It's a good thing he didn't offer me a BAR as a option,though.
#40. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#37)
You're the one boasting about blowing things pal.
#41. To: Ibluafartsky (#40)
#42. To: Fred Mertz (#41)
You're a fuckhead, fuckhead.
#43. To: sneakypete (#0)
#44. To: Fred Mertz, sneakypete (#43)
You're Jewish? I had no idea.
#45. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#29)
What a crock sneaky. That termite gun is 50+ years, at best.
#46. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#31)
Looks like we both are having a good laugh today.
#47. To: eskimo, Nebuchadnezzar (#38)
M1 Garand = termite gun.
#48. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#19)
Shit, a Russian SKS is a better rifle
#49. To: sneakypete (#3)
A M-1 as in "Garand"?
#50. To: Fred Mertz, White Sands (#43)
You're Jewish? I had no idea.
#51. To: Sarajevo (#49)
I'm at work and can't post the link right now, but google the Civilian Marksmanship Program. If you meet their requirements, you can purchase an M1 Garand at a reduced price.
#52. To: Sarajevo (#48)
LOL! That was hilarious!
#53. To: sneakypete (#46)
(Edited)
LOL! I guess! The only difference is only one of understands the issue.
#54. To: sneakypete, Joe Snuffy (#22)
Professional Instruction to go with it
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