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Title: Misleading MSN Article: The AR-15 and America's love of military-style weapons
Source: MSN
URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t ... tO0?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Published: Feb 23, 2018
Author: staff
Post Date: 2018-02-23 13:28:14 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 5641
Comments: 76

Time and again, America's worst mass shootings have featured a common thread: the killer's use of a military-style assault rifle that is inexpensive, easy to use and deadly efficient.

The type of weapon, commonly known as the AR-15, is once again under scrutiny with critics calling for a ban after last week's massacre at a Florida high school that left 17 people dead.

- Why are AR-15s so lethal? -

The AR-15 is a semi-automatic weapon, meaning a user can fire off multiple shots in quick succession. Its cousin, the M-16, is a fully automatic version that has been used by the US military since Vietnam. Fully automatic weapons are banned for civilians.

AR-15s fire high-velocity .223-caliber bullets that are accurate over long distances and cause expansive, devastating wounds to soft tissue and internal organs.

These bullets – which travel at triple the speed of a handgun round – are popular among hunters for hitting targets up to a quarter of a mile (400 meters) away.

Stephen Paddock, the killer in last October's mass shooting in Las Vegas, had amassed an arsenal of weapons including assault rifles. He fired more than 1,100 rounds from a hotel suite into a crowd of concertgoers more than 400 yards (meters) away.

The toll was 58 dead and more than 800 injured, making it the deadliest mass shooting in recent US history.

- Cheap and easy -

Buying an AR-15 is easy. Depending on the state of residence, a prospective owner can walk into a gun shop and, after presenting a valid ID, buy a rifle or shotgun provided they can pass a federal background check.

This process looks at a buyer's criminal history or whether he has ever been committed to a mental institution. But even this cursory check can be flouted in the case of private sales.

Nikolas Cruz, the man police say carried out last week's massacre at a Florida high school, had legally purchased the AR-15-type weapon used in the attack and had passed an FBI background check.

Aged just 18 at the time, the review didn't raise any red flags. In many states, one only needs to be 18 to buy an assault rifle – three years below the American age restriction on alcohol.

Many Americans can simply go online and order weapons for delivery. AR-15s vary in price but can be bought for as little as $500.

The National Rifle Association (NRA) touts them for recreational target practice, hunting and home defense, although experts question their value for the latter two uses.

Part of the reason for assault weapons' popularity in America is that they are widely customizable, with owners able to add scopes, large-capacity magazines and a plethora of other accessories.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives doesn't know how many assault weapons there are in America – they are prohibited by federal law from keeping a gun registry database.

According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the gun industry currently sells an estimated 1.3 million "modern sporting rifles and similar types of guns" each year.

Estimates vary, but there are thought to be as many guns as people in America, which has a population of more than 320 million.

Assault weapons were banned in 1994 under president Bill Clinton, but the restriction lapsed in 2004 amid pressure from the powerful NRA, and congressional efforts to renew the prohibition since then have failed.

- Bump stocks -

Vegas gunman Paddock increased the firing rate of the assault rifles he used with the addition of a "bump stock." Largely unheard of outside of America, these legal devices essentially turn a semi-automatic weapon into an automatic one.

The devices clip on to the back end of a rifle and harness the gun's recoil to bounce the weapon's trigger off the user's finger.

So, instead of a gunman having to squeeze the trigger repeatedly, the bump stock does the work for him, allowing him to empty a magazine in seconds.

President Donald Trump announced Tuesday he would support moves to ban the devices, and the NRA has said bump stocks "should be subject to additional regulations."


Did you notice the tone of the MSM - MSN Article was from "military-style weapons" to "Assault Weapons"; it is important as the MSM is seducing average Americans into a blind alley: all of these firearms are semi-automatic in nature; and they do not necessarily appear as "assault weapons."

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

I was considering whether I should finally buy an AR-15, an ammo stash and some accessories. I was thinking that I was being a little too much of a worrywart. Then I saw Ben Shapiro put out a video, saying that he was thinking the same thing and has been shopping for one himself. Shapiro's a smart guy, not extreme at all. So I'm reconsidering.

The Trump election has ruined the huge sales enjoyed by Big Gun during the 0bama years. 0dinga was the greatest gun salesman in American history. But I think we'll see an uptick in gun purchases as a direct result of all the gungrabbing talk going on now. It's not exactly prophetic since that is what has happened after so many other massacres and the resulting calls for gungrabbing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-23   14:05:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Tooconservative (#1)

I was considering whether I should finally buy an AR-15

I have 3 AR's and one lower receiver for building a custom 11.5 inch barrel short rifle, in the future. I suggest anyone that loves freedom own at least one.

The short ones are awesome for getting in and out of a vehicle, or clearing classrooms with.

GrandIsland  posted on  2018-02-23   22:13:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland (#19)

I have 3 AR's and one lower receiver for building a custom 11.5 inch barrel short rifle, in the future.

These newer AR-15 pistol designs are very interesting. Cute even. They look like so much fun.

If I was hanging out blasting away at the local gun club a lot, I would enjoy those. I even like those gen-2 Kriss Vectors using the Glock 9mm and .45 mags. I keep telling myself that those fun guns aren't very practical.

It's amazing what they've done with the AR-15 platform over the years.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-24   23:09:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Tooconservative (#36)

These newer AR-15 pistol designs are very interesting. Cute even. They look like so much fun.

If I was hanging out blasting away at the local gun club a lot, I would enjoy those.

Never mind my suggestion to buy a FN-FAL. You just want to blast away while being stylish. I think you would be happiest with something like a semi-auto Uzi,MAC-10,etc,etc,etc.

FN-FAL's are Main Battle Rifles. I guess you could put one together in .223 if you wanted,but it would be expensive and you would still have a .223 when you are done.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-25   9:07:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete, GrandIsland (#39)

Never mind my suggestion to buy a FN-FAL. You just want to blast away while being stylish.

Not really. It's like being tempted by a sports car when you're shopping for a pickup or SUV. You're tempted but stick to shopping for the practical vehicle.

The FN-FAL is still considered one of the best (or the best) battle rifle of the Cold War era, going by reliability and ergonomics. You still see people making YouTube vids about it. No doubt, a fine gun. It surprises me that no one ever licensed the design to produce their own versions in large numbers. The FN-FAL has a better reputation than other guns who did get licensed and cloned by the millions. Like the endless stream of AK-47s and AR-15s. Experts don't seem to consider the AKs and ARs made for the civilian market to be in the same class of battle rifle as the FN-FAL.

BTW, just how many people do just want to blast away while being stylish down at the range with their shooting buddies? Having fun guns that you just like may contribute to practice time. The gun you actually shoot regularly is more valuable than the "serious battle rifle" that just sits in your closet, awaiting the zombie apocalypse, the attack of Google's SkyNet robot hordes, or Civil War II when America's all-gay all-tranny military goes door to door to take our guns.

Besides, I am enough of a killjoy already. Maybe I should give fun a chance. But I am much more likely to be 1) cheap and 2) practical. It's a character defect. Or I'm just getting old.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-25   10:17:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Tooconservative (#40) (Edited)

BTW, just how many people do just want to blast away while being stylish down at the range with their shooting buddies? Having fun guns that you just like may contribute to practice time. The gun you actually shoot regularly is more valuable than the "serious battle rifle" that just sits in your closet, awaiting the zombie apocalypse, the attack of Google's SkyNet robot hordes, or Civil War II when America's all-gay all-tranny military goes door to door to take our guns.

I have two kinds of rifles. One is for extreme accuracy,and the other type is like my M-1 Garand and my FN-FAL,practical types that I shoot at pop up targets at ranges out to 500 meters using iron sights and surplus ammo.

I care nothing for rapid fire,and everything for hitting what I shoot at.

Don't get me wrong. In MY mind there is nothing wrong with "sport shooting" if rapid fire and/or point shooting with a rifle are fun for you. It just ain't for me.

Ironically enough,it's just the opposite for me with handguns. Shooting at bullseyes bores me to tears. I used to do stuff like scatter golf balls around the yard,and then spin and snap-shoot at them. Since they are all different distances away this isn't something you want to do if you get upset about missing occasionally. It sure is fun when you hit one with a 200 gr 45 bullet,though. Or was,before my eyes started getting bad and I started getting arthritis in my hands and fingers. I still shoot,but only at snakes.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-02-25   21:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#45. To: sneakypete (#44)

I have two kinds of rifles. One is for extreme accuracy,and the other type is like my M-1 Garand and my FN-FAL,practical types that I shoot at pop up targets at ranges out to 500 meters using iron sights and surplus ammo.

I looked more and those FN-FAL's are really scarce compared to what they were. Yours may be a lot more collectible than you realize. I'll keep looking around but it seems everyone who has 'em wants to keep 'em.

Tooconservative  posted on  2018-02-25 23:08:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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