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Title: This Civil War - My South Carolina Tea Party Convention Speech
Source: SultanKnish
URL Source: https://sultanknish.blogspot.com/20 ... ar-my-south-carolina-tea.html?
Published: Jan 30, 2018
Author: Daniel Greenfield
Post Date: 2018-01-30 08:09:24 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 6901
Comments: 156


(The following is the speech that I delivered this Sunday at the South Carolina Tea Party Coalition Convention in Myrtle Beach. My appreciation to Joe Dugan and everyone involved in organizing it and making it a reality once again. And to Don Neuen and Donna Fiducia of Cowboy Logic Radio for the introduction. And to anyone and everyone still fighting the good fight.)

This is a civil war.

There aren’t any soldiers marching on Charleston… or Myrtle Beach. Nobody’s getting shot in the streets. Except in Chicago… and Baltimore, Detroit and Washington D.C.

But that’s not a civil war. It’s just what happens when Democrats run a city into the ground. And then they dig a hole in the ground so they can bury it even deeper.

If you look deep enough into that great big Democrat hole, you might even see where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.

But it’s not guns that make a civil war. It’s politics.

Guns are how a civil war ends. Politics is how it begins.

How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge.

That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

I know you’re all thinking about President Trump.

He won and the establishment, the media, the democrats, rejected the results. They came up with a whole bunch of conspiracy theories to explain why he didn’t really win. It was the Russians. And the FBI. And sexism, Obama, Bernie Sanders and white people.

It’s easier to make a list of the things that Hillary Clinton doesn’t blame for losing the election. It’s going to be a short list.

A really short list. Herself.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this.

The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.

Trump didn’t really win the election. Bush didn’t really win the election. Every time a Republican president won an election this century, the Democrats insist he didn’t really win.

Now say a third Republican president wins an election in say, 2024.

What are the odds that they’ll say that he didn’t really win? Right now, it looks like 100 percent.

What do sure odds of the Dems rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election that they don’t win.

It means they don’t believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

That’s a civil war.

There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement.

You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to the left, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate.

The attacks on Trump show that elections don’t matter to the left.

Republicans can win an election, but they have a major flaw. They’re not leftists.

That’s what the leftist dictatorship looks like.

The left lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.

Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that’s the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that’s not the system that runs this country.

The left’s system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If it’s in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited.

He’s a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.

A Democrat in the White House has “discretion” to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the “discretion” to reverse him.

That’s how the game is played. That’s how our country is run.

When Democrats control the Senate, then Harry Reid and his boys and girls are the sane, wise heads that keep the crazy guys in the House in check.

But when Republicans control the Senate, then it’s an outmoded body inspired by racism.

When Democrats run the Supreme Court, then it has the power to decide everything in the country. But when Republicans control the Supreme Court, it’s a dangerous body that no one should pay attention to.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws.

Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land.

This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

There isn’t one guy in a room somewhere issuing the orders. Instead there’s a network of them. And the network moves around.

If the guys and girls in the network win elections, they can do it from the White House. If they lose the White House, they’ll do it from Congress. If they don’t have either one, they’ll use the Supreme Court.

If they don’t have either the White House, Congress or the Supreme Court, they’re screwed. Right?

Nope.

They just go on issuing them through circuit courts and the bureaucracy. State governments announce that they’re independent republics. Corporations begin threatening and suing the government.

There’s no consistent legal standard. Only a political one.

Under Obama, states weren’t allowed to enforce immigration laws. That was the job of the Federal government. And the states weren’t allowed to interfere with the job that the Feds weren’t doing.

Okay.

Now Trump comes into office and starts enforcing immigration laws again. And California announces it’s a sanctuary state and passes a law punishing businesses that cooperate with Federal immigration enforcement.

So what do we have here?

It’s illegal for states to enforce immigration law because that’s the province of the Federal government. But it’s legal for states to ban the Federal government from enforcing immigration law.

The only consistent pattern here is that the left decided to make it illegal to enforce immigration law.

It may do that sometimes under the guise of Federal power or states rights. But those are just fronts. The only consistent thing is that leftist policies are mandatory and opposing them is illegal.

Everything else is just a song and dance routine.

That’s how it works. It’s the moving dictatorship. It’s the tyranny of the network.

You can’t pin it down. There’s no one office or one guy. It’s a network of them. It’s an ideological dictatorship. Some people call it the deep state. But that doesn’t even begin to capture what it is.

To understand it, you have to think about things like the Cold War and Communist infiltration.

A better term than Deep State is Shadow Government.

Parts of the Shadow Government aren’t even in the government. They are wherever the left holds power. It can be in the non-profit sector and among major corporations. Power gets moved around like a New York City shell game. Where’s the quarter? Nope, it’s not there anymore.

The shadow government is an ideological network. These days it calls itself by a hashtag #Resistance. Under any name, it runs the country. Most of the time we don’t realize that. When things are normal, when there’s a Democrat in the White House or a bunch of Democrats in Congress, it’s business as usual.

Even with most Republican presidents, you didn’t notice anything too out of the ordinary. Sure, the Democrats got their way most of the time. But that’s how the game is usually played.

It’s only when someone came on the scene who didn’t play the game by the same rules, that the network exposed itself. The shadow government emerged out of hiding and came for Trump.

And that’s the civil war.

This is a war over who runs the country. Do the people who vote run the country or does this network that can lose an election, but still get its agenda through, run the country?

We’ve been having this fight for a while. But this century things have escalated.

They escalated a whole lot after Trump’s win because the network isn’t pretending anymore. It sees the opportunity to delegitimize the whole idea of elections.

Now the network isn’t running the country from cover. It’s actually out here trying to overturn the results of an election and remove the president from office.

It’s rejected the victories of two Republican presidents this century.

And if we don’t stand up and confront it, and expose it for what it is, it’s going to go on doing it in every election. And eventually Federal judges are going to gain enough power that they really will overturn elections.

It happens in other countries. If you think it can’t happen here, you haven’t been paying attention to the left.

Right now, Federal judges are declaring that President Trump isn’t allowed to govern because his Tweets show he’s a racist. How long until they say that a president isn’t even allowed to take office because they don’t like his views?

That’s where we’re headed.

Civil wars swing around a very basic question. The most basic question of them all. Who runs the country?

Is it me? Is it you? Is it Grandma? Or is it bunch of people who made running the government into their career?

America was founded on getting away from professional government. The British monarchy was a professional government. Like all professional governments, it was hereditary. Professional classes eventually decide to pass down their privileges to their kids.

America was different. We had a volunteer government. That’s what the Founding Fathers built.

This is a civil war between volunteer governments elected by the people and professional governments elected by… well… uh… themselves.

Of the establishment, by the establishment and for the establishment.

You know, the people who always say they know better, no matter how many times they screw up, because they’re the professionals. They’ve been in Washington D.C. politics since they were in diapers.

Freedom can only exist under a volunteer government. Because everyone is in charge. Power belongs to the people.

A professional government is going to have to stamp out freedom sooner or later. Freedom under a professional government can only be a fiction. Whenever the people disagree with the professionals, they’re going to have to get put down. That’s just how it is. No matter how it’s disguised, a professional government is tyranny.

Ours is really well disguised, but if it walks like a duck and locks you up like a duck, it’s a tyranny.

Now what’s the left.

Forget all the deep answers. The left is a professional government.

It’s whole idea is that everything needs to be controlled by a big central government to make society just. That means everything from your soda sizes to whether you can mow your lawn needs to be decided in Washington D.C.

Volunteer governments are unjust. Professional governments are fair. That’s the credo of the left.

Its network, the one we were just discussing, it takes over professional governments because it shares their basic ideas. Professional governments, no matter who runs them, are convinced that everything should run through the professionals. And the professionals are usually lefties. If they aren’t, they will be.

Just ask Mueller and establishment guys like him.

What infuriates professional government more than anything else? An amateur, someone like President Trump who didn’t spend his entire adult life practicing to be president, taking over the job.

President Trump is what volunteer government is all about.

When you’re a government professional, you’re invested in keeping the system going. But when you’re a volunteer, you can do all the things that the experts tell you can’t be done. You can look at the mess we’re in with fresh eyes and do the common sense things that President Trump is doing.

And common sense is the enemy of government professionals. It’s why Trump is such a threat.

A Republican government professional would be bad enough. But a Republican government volunteer does that thing you’re not supposed to do in government… think differently.

Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve in if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club.

And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.

Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That’s not a free country.

It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win, won.

We’re in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and leftist professional government.

The pros have made it clear that they’re not going to accept election results anymore. They’re just going to make us do whatever they want. They’re in charge and we better do what they say.

That’s the war we’re in. And it’s important that we understand that.

Because this isn’t a shooting war yet. And I don’t want to see it become one.

And before the shooting starts, civil wars are fought with arguments. To win, you have to understand what the big picture argument is. It’s easy to get bogged down in arguments that don’t matter or won’t really change anything.

This is the argument that changes everything.

Do we have a government of the people and by the people? Or do we have a tyranny of the professionals?

The Democrats try to dress up this argument in leftist social justice babble. Those fights are worth having. But sometimes we need to pull back the curtain on what this is really about.

They’ve tried to rig the system. They’ve done it by gerrymandering, by changing the demographics of entire states through immigration, by abusing the judiciary and by a thousand different tricks.

But civil wars come down to an easy question. Who runs the country?

They’ve given us their answer and we need to give them our answer.

Both sides talk about taking back the country. But who are they taking it back for?

The left uses identity politics. It puts supposed representatives of entire identity groups up front. We’re taking the country back for women and for black people, and so on and so forth…

But nobody elected their representatives.

Identity groups don’t vote for leaders. All the black people in the country never voted to make Shaun King al Al Sharpton their representative. And women sure as hell didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton.

What we have in America is a representative government. A representative government makes freedom possible because it actually represents people, instead of representing ideas.

The left’s identity politics only represents ideas. Nobody gets to vote on them.

Instead the left puts out representatives from different identity politics groups, there’s your gay guy, there’s three women, there’s a black man, as fronts for their professional government system.

When they’re taking back the country, it’s always for professional government. It’s never for the people.

When conservatives fight to take back the country, it’s for the people. It’s for volunteer government the way that the Founding Fathers wanted it to be.

This is a civil war over whether the American people are going to govern themselves. Or are they going to be governed.

Are we going to have a government of the people, by the people and for the people… or are we going to have a government.

The kind of government that most countries have where a few special people decide what’s best for everyone.

We tried that kind of government under the British monarchy. And we had a revolution because we didn’t like it.

But that revolution was met with a counterrevolution by the left. The left wants a monarchy. It wants King Obama or Queen Oprah.

It wants to end government of the people, by the people and for the people. That’s what they’re fighting for. That’s what we’re fighting against. The stakes are as big as they’re ever going to get. Do elections matter anymore?

I live in the state of Ronald Reagan. I can go visit the Ronald Reagan Library any time I want to. But today California has one party elections. There are lots of elections and propositions. There’s all the theater of democracy, but none of the substance. Its political system is as free and open as the Soviet Union.

And that can be America.

The Trump years are going to decide if America survives. When his time in office is done, we’re either going to be California or a free nation once again.

The civil war is out in the open now and we need to fight the good fight. And we must fight to win.

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#54. To: VxH (#38)

Which "elite" bailed out Disney's Paris clusterfrack after the local "elite" (and their local employees) demonstrated they weren't up to the task of cleaning up their own Pol Poo, again?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10096818/Saudi-Prince- spends-millions-on-closing-off-part-of-Disneyland-for-private-party.html

Who cares? Disney is cartoons and children's stories. It's an entertainment company. They bobbled a theme park and have an economic problem to fix, like any other business. So what?

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   13:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: VxH (#53)

...Just grow out of the ground after sewing magic Carpethian fairy dust.

No, they're built by carpenters and stone-masons, hired by priests.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   13:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: no gnu taxes (#34) (Edited)

Yet they all vote Democrat

Not any worse than voting for the Republican wing of the party.

Bad results are virtually guaranteed when you vote D&R party.

DACA Shithole Dreamers - Make America Great Again?

Hondo68  posted on  2018-01-30   13:55:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Vicomte13 (#55)

hired by priests.

Your priests don't know any plumbers in Tijuana?

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   13:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Liberator (#45)

Question: Are you a Democrat or typically vote Democrat?

CHALLENGE:

Name 3 policies Democrats support that benefit America. JUST THREE.

I am not a Democrat. I have only voted for one Democrat: the Congressman from my district who appointed me to Annapolis in 1981. I voted for him in 1982 and 1984.

I never vote Democrat.

I am an Independent. I was registered as a Republican for many years and founded the Republican Club at Columbia Law School in New York during the Clinton years - and took a great deal of heat for it at the time.

THREE DEMOCRAT POLICIES THAT BENEFIT AMERICA: (1) Social Security (2) Unemployment Insurance (3) Workers' Compensation Insurance (4) Medicare (5) Medicaid (6) Food aid for dependent children (7) School breakfast programs.

There's SEVEN.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   13:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: VxH (#57)

Your priests don't know any plumbers in Tijuana?

Mexico is a secular country since the Revolution of the early 1900s. Governments build sewers, not churches.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   13:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Vicomte13 (#52)

Nobody cares. Literally, nobody ... This has no relevancy to modern France or the modern world.

Oh. Well what was a Jacques Verges, the French Commie, doing representing Khieu Samphan at the Cambodian genocide tribunal in 2008 then? Were you busy?

https://en.wikipedia.o rg/wiki/Jacques_Verg%C3%A8s

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   13:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Liberator (#43)

Vic, you reinforced how Europe's "privacy" exceeded that of the US.

How can that be when the average Parisian can even enjoy his own city in peace?

Ever been to New York, or Chicago, LA or San Francisco, or Washington DC, or Richmond or Atlanta, or Philadelphia?

Lots of homeless there too.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   14:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: VxH (#60)

Oh. Well what was a Jacques Verges, the French Commie, doing representing Khieu Samphan at the Cambodian genocide tribunal in 2008 then? Were you busy?

Not my circus; not my monkey.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   14:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Liberator (#39)

And why don't you blame Dems for ANY-thing??

I do.

Where are the Democrats posting here that I might chide?

Oh. There aren't any.

The people HERE are Republicans. Republicans need a good ass-whipping, and I give it to them.

I whip Democrat ass around the dinner table at family gatherings.

The main problems with the Democrats are: (1) They're babykillers. (2) They're very weak on national defense. (3) They favor the expansion of homosexuality. (4) They make institutional war on religion.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   14:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Vicomte13 (#59) (Edited)

Mexico is a secular country since the Revolution of the early 1900s.

LOL.  It's a Marxist Shythole, Comrade.

Hence, no plumbing.

Meanwhile up El Norte, in the Not-Jesuit-Marxist Not-Shytehole USA:

USA
The first sewer systems in the United States were built in the late 1850s in Chicago and Brooklyn.[49]:43

In the United States, the first sewage treatment plant using chemical precipitation was built in Worcester, Massachusetts in 1890.[42]:29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_water_supply_and_sanitation#USA


{ shrug }
Well, why bother with the magic of plumbing when the herd will worship sticks, statues, bones, and rags.

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   14:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Vicomte13 (#8)

France is not "destroyed". It isn't even close to being destroyed.

Yes,it is. It just hasn't fallen yet,but it will. The communists and the Muslims will see to that the instant they outnumber the more conservative French voters that don't live in Paris.

It's the number one tourist destination country in the world.

Irrelevant.

It's a nice place to live

For the time being,as long as you don't live in a big city.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:10:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: sneakypete (#65)

Poppycock.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   14:13:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Vicomte13 (#10)

And without them, the Dems got nothing.

Au contraire, the Democrats still have the Republicans as their opponents, which constantly acts as a resurrection machine for Democrat hopes.

The Republican problem is that it is dominated internally by a smallish number of plutocrats, and as the moneymen of the party, they hold vastly outsized influence when compared to their numbers. This drives the Republican agenda hard over into policies and positions that favor the rich economically, but also that modify - or erase - the social conservatism of the GOP rank and file. The majorty of Republicans identify themselves as "conservative", and expect conservative policies from the GOP, but the Republican plutocrats are socially liberal, and liberal on immigration. They're not Democrats because they Democrats will tax them a lot higher and will regulate them.

This causes the Republican party to constantly betray its voting base, to go limp, inert. It's not that Republican politicians are inept. It's that they are PAID by very liberal people who don't want to be taxed, but VOTED FOR by conservatives and religious conservatives who want their belief systems to be advanced. These two interests are antithetical, so the GOP is constantly blowing itself up with conservatives and libertarians and independents.

And that gives the Democrats a new lease on life every few years, even though Democrats suck and their policies, when actually implemented, don't work - witness Obamacare.

All true,but a political party still has nothing if they have to rely on the incompetence and betrayals of their opponents to remain in office.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Vicomte13 (#62) (Edited)

Which is it...

"Not my circus; not my monkey."

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   14:02:27 ET

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=54435&Disp=62#C62

Or:

"Not our circus, not our monkey."

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   11:48:26 ET

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=54435&Disp=19#C19

...?

Meanwhile Jacques Verges, the French Commie POS, was representing Khieu Samphan at the Cambodian genocide tribunal in 2008.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/world/europe/jacques-verges- 88-defender-of-war-criminals-and-terrorists.html

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   14:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: VxH (#11)

Those the same intellectual-elite dirt bags who applauded when Pol Pot told them how he was going to apply what he learned at their university?

This is the first I heard of that,but it sounds like something they would agree with.

You want an original quote to describe this type of creature? Here it is,composed by me.

"A intellectual is someone so open-minded their brain fell out."

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Vicomte13 (#17)

The French don't have trust funds.

True,why there is practically no "old money families" in France. Hell,they never even had an Empire!

The elites run everything. They have all of the experience. The hoi-polloi have no experience running anything. Aristocratic government works, because aristocrats are better educated, smarter, generally healthier, and not subject to petty economic pressure that so easily corrupts those withoutmeans.

Thank you for highlighting the aspects of what passes for French Culture that i have been writing about.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Vicomte13 (#19)

Pol Pot's killing fields are almost a half-century in the past, and France has been gone from Indochina for 64 years.

Really?

When did Michelin leave Asia?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Vicomte13 (#23)

Why don't you tell the class where Pol Pot, the Jesuit School boy, learned his tricks, comrade?

Nobody cares. It doesn't matter. It's ancient history. It was on another continent under a different French Republic

LOL! Good one!

You wouldn't happen to be an elitist member of the French Propaganda Ministry,would you?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

I'm Catholic, not Communist.

There's a difference?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone (#41)

He's going to tell you that's just a block party.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone, Liberator, Vicomte13 (#46)

I'm hard on him because he is smart and should know better on some of his beliefs.

Like most of us,he is a victim of his culture and upraising.He was raised to be a slave to the Catholic Church,so that's what he is.

Who was the famous communist that is quoted as saying "Give me a boy of age 6 and he will be a communist for life"? All he was doing was parroting Catholic dogma.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:43:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: VxH (#47)

How'come the Jesuits can't build a functional sewer system in Tijuana, Comrade?

Because they send all the local donations they get back to Rome.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-01-30   14:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: sneakypete, Vicomte13, A K A Stone (#69)

You want an original quote to describe this type of creature?

This Type of Creature - AKA:

 "Intellectuals and the Left in France Since 1968"

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https://books.google.com/bo oks? id=SO2uCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=solzhenitsyn+%22Pol+Pot%22+fran ce&source=bl&ots=ZoTfdFgJig&sig=6HVVjSszaiY7axVue1NoQfUWTvM&hl= en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiAkaPWtoDZAhUY2WMKHYiaDUUQ6AEIQDAH#v=onepage&q=s olzhenitsyn%20%22Pol%20Pot%22%20france&f=false

 

Learning their Marxism WHERE, Comrade Vic?

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   14:47:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: VxH (#77)

Learning their Marxism WHERE, Comrade Vic?

Paris, apparently, according to the document you excerpted.

Ah Paris, it's the greatest city in the world to learn things and sit around and think, and drink. And then go have sex before sitting, thinking, and drinking some more.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: sneakypete (#73)

I'm Catholic, not Communist.

There's a difference?

Pass.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete (#72)

You wouldn't happen to be an elitist member of the French Propaganda Ministry,would you?

No, but if the monarchy were still standing I'd be a local aristocrat sitting in the parlement of Normandy.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: sneakypete (#71)

Really?

When did Michelin leave Asia?

Really. Who gives a damn what happened in Indochina a half-century ago? Who gives a damn about Indochina period? It's a shithole. The natives wanted it back. They got it. Good riddance.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: sneakypete (#70)

True,why there is practically no "old money families" in France. Hell,they never even had an Empire!

France is owned and operated by about 100 families, and has been so since the Revolution. Before that it was the same, but the family names were different in some cases.

In the age of Empire, the French Empire was second only to the British, and both the British and French Empires were able to grow so extensively because after Napoleon they stopped fighting each other and went out and carved up the world pretty much by agreement, leaving only little scraps here and there for everybody else.

The World Wars bankrupted both Empires. The British gave up theirs without a fight. The French fought a bit too hard to keep theirs, in Indochina and especially in Algeria, but in the end they let those go.

The rest of the old empire is still closely linked to France in a neo-colonial empire, because those states are generally poor and like the aid and the stability of having French troops based on their soil, so France still has stronger ties with its old Empire (about half of Africa) than the other ex- colonials do.

French possessions are still here and there around the globe - Tahiti and the Marquesas, New Caledonia, Guadeloupe, Martinique, St. Martin, French Guiana, La Reunion.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: VxH (#68)

Which is it...

"Not my circus; not my monkey."

Vicomte13 posted on 2018-01-30 14:02:27 ET

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=54435&Disp=62#C62

Or:

"Not our circus, not our monkey."

Vicomte13 posted on 2018-01-30 11:48:26 ET

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=54435&Disp=19#C19

...?

Meanwhile Jacques Verges, the French Commie POS, was representing Khieu Samphan at the Cambodian genocide tribunal in 2008.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/world/europe/jacques-verges- 88-defender-of-war-criminals-and-terrorists.html

It's not my monkey, not my circus, of course.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Vicomte13 (#78)

it's the greatest city in the world to learn things

Uhuh. Things like how to be a genocidal Communist, apparently.

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   15:13:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: VxH (#84)

Uhuh. Things like how to be a genocidal Communist, apparently.

Sure, that, and how government is properly divided into three parts: Executive, Legislative and Judicial, with checks and balances between the three parts. Or how bacteria causes disease. Or how THIS feels really good if you do THAT while you're doing it. All sorts of things to be contemplated in Paris.

"First to face the Truth, and last to leave old truths behind: France" - Kipling, France 1913

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Vicomte13, sneakypete (#81)

Who gives a damn what happened in Indochina a half-century ago?

You mean other than folks who actually try to learn from history so that "elite" idiots like you and Al Franken won't be allowed to repeat it?

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   15:20:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Vicomte13 (#85)

Or how bacteria causes disease.

Or how THIS feels really good if you do THAT while you're doing it

HIV, STD rates up in France: report

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2016/12/02/hiv-std-rates-france- report/

Uhuh.

 

What sort of checks and balances did your Jesuit-Commie "elites" teach Pol Pot?

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   15:25:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Vicomte13 (#83)

It's not my monkey, not my circus, of course.

"Not our circus, not our monkey."

Vicomte13 posted on 2018-01-30 11:48:26 ET

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=54435&Disp=19#C19

So your were lying then, as usual.

VxH  posted on  2018-01-30   15:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: VxH (#86)

"elite" idiots like you and Al Franken

Who ever said that I am part of the "elite"?

If I were in France, given my name I cannot really hide my familial status, but my sensibilities are more provincial or, more accurately, Canadien, than Parisian. So not elite.

And in America? Al Franken, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump and Elon Musk and their ilk are the American elite. I am nothing like them and never fit in comfortably anywhere.

Ideally, I would have my orchard and my sheep beside a lake somewhere in the cambrousse, American or French. And I would have my books. And my wife and my horses. And would take turns picking the fruit, swimming, reading and riding them, and would not leave the estate much. And people would come to my kitchens and workshops with their trucks and take away my pies and my cherry wine and my cheeses and woolens for sale and bring me back the proceeds to pay the staff and crew and leave me free to do those things that please me.

It would be a homely life. Not elite, unless one can be the King of Cherry Pie.

"She's my cherry pie, cool drinking water, such a sweet surprise. Feels so good brings a tear to my eye, sweet cherry pie."

"Elle court, elle court, la maladie d'amour, dans le coeur des enfants de sept a soixante-dix-sept ans. Elle chante, elle chante, cette riviere insolente, qui unit dans son lit les cheveux blonds, les cheveux gris."

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: VxH (#87)

What sort of checks and balances did your Jesuit-Commie "elites" teach Pol Pot?

None. He was a Communist. Dull. Only the more noble have the mind to grasp a Montesquieu. Great ideas come out of Paris. Marx wrote in London.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:38:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: VxH (#88)

"Not our circus, not our monkey."

Vicomte13 posted on 2018-01-30 11:48:26 ET

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=54435&Disp=19#C19

So your were lying then, as usual.

VxH, also known as Stone?

I don't lie because I have no need to.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: VxH (#87)

HIV, STD rates up in France: report

This is why it is far preferable to have a "Private Reserve". The public trough is seamy.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:41:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Vicomte13 (#91)

VxH, also known as Stone?

Do you really think he is me?

He is anti jew. He would call me a Zionist probably.

A K A Stone  posted on  2018-01-30   15:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: A K A Stone (#93)

Do you really think he is me?

No.

Except that you both call me "liar" a lot.

Vicomte13  posted on  2018-01-30   15:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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