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Title: Over a Dozen Cops Swarm, Arrest Tiny Girl For Sitting Incorrectly on the Subway
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URL Source: http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.c ... ting-incorrectly-subway/216980
Published: Jan 23, 2018
Author: Jack Burns
Post Date: 2018-01-24 05:52:15 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 7219
Comments: 97
Los Angeles, CA — Dramatic footage has just been released showing 18-year-old Bethany Nava, a West Hollywood resident, getting arrested for having her foot on the subway seat in front of her. According to the Facebook live video, Nava was riding the Red Line Metrorail when the confrontation with police occurred. An unnamed LAPD officer, a sergeant, had reportedly asked Nava to remove her foot from an adjoining seat but she didn’t immediately comply. “It doesn’t matter. You’re getting off the train right now. I already told you what to do but you disobeyed me,” he told her in a normal voice. He then ordered her to stand up and told her she would be getting off the train at the next stop. “I paid to be on the train, asshole!” Nava told the officer as he laid his hands on her and pushed her off the train. ”I’m 18. He’s taking me off the train for having my foot on the fucking seat,” she told the person recording. The officer whose badge number is 5203, was then surrounded by concerned citizens who accused him of abusing his badge and being on a power trip. ”You’re a fucking scumbag,” said Selena Lechuga, a concerned citizen who came to Nara’s defense and calling into question the officer’s actions in forcing the teenager off the train. “You’re impeding my investigation. Back away,” he told Lechuga. During the altercation, Nara attempted to flex her rights when the sergeant asked her for her ID. “I was on my way to the DMV. I have to meet my mother to get my ID. Cause I just turned 18. This is not fucking fair that you took me off the train because I had my foot there because I was comfortable like that. There is no law that tells me that I cannot sit that way because I PAID TO BE IN THERE!” Nara screamed. “It’s the rules of the train,” the officer stated. “What’s the fucking rules of the train,” she asked. Both Nara and Lechuga asked the officer to provide the rules of the train for them to read. “I don’t have any fucking ID I was about to go to the DMV to get it…I should not be going to jail right now!” she exclaimed. “I don’t have any form of ID. I don’t have any drugs. I don’t have anything that you can arrest me for! My foot was on a chair…what kind of fucking conflicts do you have that you need to take me off the train that I paid for,” she asked. “Nobody was trying to sit in the chair.” Soon after, backup officers arrived. Instead of questioning the validity of the arrest, they promptly placed the two ladies in handcuffs and carted them off to jail. According to CBS News LA, both women were cited for disorderly conduct on the train. However, that charge is now being called into question. One could argue the entire incident was started when the police officer escalated the conflict by demanding Nara forfeit her fare and leave the train. It was then and only then when tempers began to flare and choice words were used. While the officer appeared to just be doing his job, how he handled it will likely be seen as professional by supporters of law enforcement, and abusive by freedom loving citizens. Perusing through YouTube one can find a myriad of videos where citizens claim to have been harassed while riding the Metro. It’s unclear exactly how Nara was sitting which prompted the officer to remove her from the train, but de-escalation techniques could have been implemented. The entire incident may serve to illustrate just how easy it is to become a criminal in LA. Sitting on the seat incorrectly can now get you arrested.
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#17. To: no gnu taxes (#9)
"not interested" = "coward". You are very smart.
Well, thanks for your astute observation.
“This is another fine mess you tried to get someone to understand this morning, Ollie”.
coward Sound good ...
Listen dude. Ah, you got to him ... Good for your !!!
Why, the observation is not astute in the least. Your intellectual capacity is plainly obvious to all. But I'm glad my comment makes you feel good. I've done my good deed for the day.
I was driving home the point that these African shitholes are, literally, shitholes. If the truth offends you, so be it.
As is yours, senor. Hey, how often do the ferries go out to the Galapagos Islands?
Your astute observation and comment made me feel good....thanks.
Galliwiki: Public Ferry Schedules in the Galapagos Islands, 2016 Travel from Ecuador to the Galopagos by boat is possible but these are cargo ships and have very basic accommodations. They take 3-4 days on typically rough seas and cost the same as just flying to the islands. Almost everyone flies to the islands as a result.
A more descriptive accounting can be found HERE. .
Surprising to me that Mayor Garcetti didn't go into full race-baiting mode. He's had a lot of practice at it.
Thanks for the info. But i was just subtly trying to make another point. I doubt i will be in Ecuador anytime in the near future.
7:00 the racist bitcch calls officer doing his job a racist. 7:30 The fat
obnoxious bitch spits at the officer. They deserved to be arrested.
Despite the occasional earthquakes, Ecuador is a pretty nice country overall. I'd consider it as the #3 country in the region after Argentina and Brazil. But it also lacks some of the serious structural problems of those other two countries.
Unless the train was still moving, fuck her.
I have no doubt about that. I'm not so sure about Brazil. The worst are Haiti, Honduras, and Nicaragua. Well, now Venezuela. Who knows what goes on in Cuba.
He did start off nicely. Then the dreamer got all mouthy. Her bad attitude caused the whole incident. If she had complied she would have been fine. Probably thrown off at worse, free to get on the next one.
Excellent news. That spoiled bitch had no right to put her shoes up on a seat where someone else would be sitting. Who knows how much feces,blood,and urine those shoes walked through before being placed on the seat cushion? Little girl,the world does NOT revolve around you. There are other people here who you must share it with. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Where anyone not raised by wild wolves or the equivalent would know she had no business putting her feet,anyhow. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
It is reasonable for the cops to "swarm" like that at the end. When you have troublemakers resisting and causing problems they bring in a bunch of people to keep the situation under control. The fat ugly one caus3d a lot of the problem. Then there 8s the faggot recorder talking at the end. Yeah you can tell by his voice.
Because you are wrong,and don't want to admit it. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
SPITS at him? That is assault anywhere you go. It could even be assault with a deadly weapon if the spitter has a contagious disease. I'm not a cop,but if somebody spits on me,I WILL change their life. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Because you are wrong,and don't want to admit it. I freely admit when I'm wrong. It's a greater error to refuse to admit one was wrong than to be wrong in the first place, which is something most people don't understand. But I am absolutely right when I disengage from attempts to discuss things when no discussion is taking place. I have better things to do with my time. Do you still think I'm wrong?
The girl was wrong and you were wrong to try and defend her.
Tiny girl Big mouTh Bad aTTiTude Typical lib She should be on The TonighT show Cnn Wow If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !
"I had my foot there because I was comfortable like that" And she's entitled to her "comfort" - regardless of the people standing without a seat; and regardless of the filth she's spreading by ignoring the rules. SMH Kids these days.
Yes,no matter how much you want to tapdance around it,the girl was wrong and she was breaking the law. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Let's put the blame where it lies,at the feet of their parents. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Multiple generations of FAIL.
I'll say this much: I only watched the beginning few minutes, until just after the cop called for backup and it seemed to just be arguing at that point. If anyone spit on the cop, that's wrong. It's wrong any time anyone does it to anyone else, cop or no cop. And if there is indeed a law against having feet up on a seat, fine. But here's my point: Good policing does not consist of going around busting everyone for every last infraction that's on the books. Anyone who disagrees should have no problem with getting a traffic citation for failing to signal for a lane change. There are a couple people on this site who's model law enforcement officer is none other than Inspector Javert, the antagonist in Les Miserables, who had no problem with a man being placed in jail for 5 years for stealing bread, because "the law is the law". Never any room for consideration of basic human needs, or more broadly, basic humanity. Now there are 2 ways a cop could approach someone like this girl who had her feet up on a seat. One is the brute force "Inspector Javert" way we see in the video (though we don't see how it began so maybe the girl was first to get bitchy). The second way is, given she wasn't a mugger or threatening to shoot anyone who looked at her funny, to approach her in a much more positive, light hearted manner informing her of the reason it's not good for others to sit like that, engaging her in a much more friendly manner. The first way certainly sends a message, but it creates animosity and is bad PR, not just between the arrested girl and the police, but everyone who witnessed any part of it. The second way actually has a better chance of educating in a positive manner and actually changing behavior when cops are not around. And in my view, that is just so much better. No arrests. No court cases. No lawyers involved... no one getting spit on.... what's not to like? This guy understands it:
There can be no question about that,but one stereotype doesn't justify another. Watch the rest of it. She starts throwing "F Bombs" and a crowd starts gathering. One guy with a serious lisp is always circling around behind the lone cop trying to talk him into letting her go,and she is struggling and trying to get away. While this is going on,another larger (ok,fat) Hispanic woman approaches the cop and SHE starts throwing F bombs and screaming "racism". Meanwhile the cop hasn't harmed anyone,and is surrounded down in a subway. So he calls for backup,which he would have had to have done anyhow because he can only search a female suspect in an emergency,and because he now has TWO,and maybe three or more people interfering with a legal arrest,which is a crime in itself. What would YOU do,risk facing an angry and racist brown crowd in LA by yourself,or would you call for backup before it got out of hand,too? Also,you might want to read the comments section and all the replies that say the cop should have been killed. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
When "Tiny Girl" is used in a headline, I know I'm being set up for emotional BS story. The entire tale is fraught with the type of accounts and exchanges that are usually found in...an inner-city ZOO. Hard to believe that any of this went down as its told...
Right. BUT...that's her "right". /s
10-4
At that point, it's too late so no need to watch more. By that time, the cop already approached the offending girl in the manner he chose and hostilities are already on the burner. Of course things will get worse after that. What I'm talking about is approaching differently, diplomatically, and positively so things don't reach this irreversible level of hostility. Again, this is not a case where the girl was threatening to shoot anyone or otherwise disturbing anyone else on the train. The cops in the 2 vids I posted do it right. It's the mindset of the cops when they FIRST approach an infractor that makes the difference.
OR...maybe this was an opportunist's way of sticking it to The Man. I don't think we're getting a neutral or fair way of reporting this incident. Not that it matters. Frankly, this is an example of petty BS reporting designed to create frothy emotions, divisions, and hate. "News" stories like this are a penny a dozen.
And your point is? That the cop handled it right because public sentiment on public review of the video was very much against him? Do you expect that public sentiment to change if the cop does not? Remember the definition of insanity? That's all the more reason why the cop should have handled it more diplomatically, even if the girl was in the wrong. Again this is a very minor infraction. About as minor as it gets.
“What’s the fucking rules of the train...My foot was on a chair…what kind of fucking conflicts do you have that you need to take me off the train that I paid for...”I’m 18. He’s taking me off the train for having my foot on the fucking seat,” she told the person recording.” Selena Lechuga (reported as a so-called "concerned citizen who came to Nara’s defense" TO LE Officer: ”You’re a fucking scumbag.” Nice audition. Real nice language. In a public place. What a heroine. NOT. She's a self-entitled, selfish obnoxious twit. That much is obvious. Oh...and the "children" of Illegal Invaders? What harm can they do to a nation? ZERO sympathy from me. Conveniently, we missed what transpired BEFORE the usual baiting of the LEOs from people ever ready to make cops and others look villainous with select video. I am sick of contrived outrages over petty ante BS. AND stories that constantly make LE look like villains over stupid stuff on video when its these cretins are who have turned society into one yuge festering boil.
Thanks to cellphone video, yes. It's certainly a new dynamic in society where cops are nowadays perhaps 90% likely to be video recorded during any interaction with anyone. At least in the densely populated cities. And that's not even considering body cams. It's all the more reason for cops to return to their "human" status of times long past, and more emphasis being placed on the humanity of the people they interact with, and less emphasis placed on "the law is the law" brute force type mentality. I don't think there is disagreement on either side about the benefits of good relations between cops and the public, and the need for it. Good PR is valuable for both, and the video recording of cops now plays into that. And what a god-awful video of the simon-says shooting was a good example of how to ruin police PR. Police videos are now a permanent part of the police PR dynamic.
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#18. To: Pinguinite (#17)
You are very smart.
#19. To: Tooconservative (#11)
It has to be pretty bad ..
It must have been going from “bad” to “worse” for the LAPD to specifically assign officers to trains to enforce the ordinance. The Los Angeles Police Department has now launched a use-of-force investigation into a videotaped incident in which a sergeant pulled a young woman from a Metro subway train and then detained her because she refused to take her foot off a seat, according to the video and authorities.
Some people who believe there should be no laws were pissed when the incident happened….they are going to be even more pissed when the investigation shows that the actions by the sergeant were proper and he was correctly complying with the law. 
#20. To: no gnu taxes, Pinguinite, Tooconservative (#9)
I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.
#21. To: Tooconservative (#16)
#22. To: no gnu taxes (#18)
Well, thanks for your astute observation.
#23. To: Pinguinite (#16)
Listen dude. I'm not the one that posted not one, but TWO photos of people defecating in public. On. this. site. YOU did that. Not me. You didn't need to do that to convey the point the article made, but you CHOSE to do that.
#24. To: Pinguinite (#22)
Your intellectual capacity is plainly obvious to all.
#25. To: no gnu taxes (#22)
#26. To: no gnu taxes (#24)
Hey, how often do the ferries go out to the Galapagos Islands?
#27. To: Tooconservative (#23)
If the truth offends you ...
#28. To: Gatlin (#27)
#29. To: Tooconservative (#26)
#30. To: Deckard (#0)
#31. To: no gnu taxes (#29)
#32. To: Deckard (#0)
Nava told the officer as he laid his hands on her and pushed her off the train.
#33. To: Tooconservative (#31)
Despite the occasional earthquakes, Ecuador is a pretty nice country overall.
#34. To: Pinguinite (#3)
If there were "rules" (and not laws) against putting feet up on seats, the cop could have handled it in a much more amicable and friendly way, such as asking nicely and pointing out the health reason for it. But for too many cops, getting belligerent and physical with arrests is the only way to get messages across.
#35. To: Deckard (#0)
Soon after, backup officers arrived. Instead of questioning the validity of the arrest, they promptly placed the two ladies in handcuffs and carted them off to jail.
#36. To: no gnu taxes (#1)
All the stupid bitch had to do was comply with the rules and take her foot off the seat.
#37. To: Deckard (#0)
#38. To: Pinguinite (#7)
I'm no longer interested in discussing this topic with you.
#39. To: A K A Stone (#30)
(Edited)
The fat obnoxious bitch spits at the officer.
#40. To: sneakypete (#38)
#41. To: Pinguinite (#40)
Do you still think I'm wrong?
#42. To: Deckard (#0)
boris
#43. To: Gatlin (#27)
(Edited)
A more descriptive accounting can be found HERE. .
#44. To: Pinguinite (#40)
Do you still think I'm wrong?
#45. To: VxH (#43)
Kids these days.
#46. To: sneakypete (#45)
Let's put the blame where it lies,at the feet of their parents.
#47. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#37)
It is reasonable for the cops to "swarm" like that at the end. When you have troublemakers resisting and causing problems they bring in a bunch of people to keep the situation under control.
#48. To: All (#47)
#49. To: Pinguinite (#47)
But here's my point: Good policing does not consist of going around busting everyone for every last infraction that's on the books. Anyone who disagrees should have no problem with getting a traffic citation for failing to signal for a lane change. There are a couple people on this site who's model law enforcement officer is none other than Inspector Javert, the antagonist in Les Miserables, who had no problem with a man being placed in jail for 5 years for stealing bread, because "the law is the law". Never any room for consideration of basic human needs, or more broadly, basic humanity.
#50. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#0)
#51. To: no gnu taxes (#1)
All the stupid bitch had to do was comply with the rules and take her foot off the seat.
#52. To: Tooconservative (#2)
The cop did nothing wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of subway riders want the cops to stand up to these punks.
#53. To: sneakypete (#49)
Watch the rest of it. She starts throwing "F Bombs"
#54. To: Pinguinite (#3)
Apparently, a lot of bystanders who probably use the subway frequently sided with the girl against the cop. That's generally a sign that the girl's sitting habits were acceptable norms on this subway...
#55. To: sneakypete (#49)
Also,you might want to read the comments section and all the replies that say the cop should have been killed.
#56. To: Deckard, TooConservative, Pinguinite (#0)
Nara:
#57. To: Liberator (#54)
"News" stories like this are a penny a dozen.
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