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Title: Tens of Thousands in NYC Protest War
Source: AP
URL Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060429/D8H9TLPG4.html
Published: Apr 30, 2006
Author: DESMOND BUTLER
Post Date: 2006-04-30 14:10:56 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 5001
Comments: 10

NEW YORK (AP) - Tens of thousands of protesters marched Saturday through lower Manhattan to demand an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, just hours after this month's death toll reached 70.

Cindy Sheehan, a vociferous critic of the war whose soldier son also died in Iraq, joined in the march, as did actress Susan Sarandon and the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

"End this war, bring the troops home," read one sign lifted by marchers on the sunny afternoon, three years after the war in Iraq began. The mother of a Marine killed two years ago in Iraq held a picture of her son, born in 1984 and killed 20 years later.

One group marched under the banner "Veterans for Peace."

(AP) Danielle Mazur, left, and her mother Betty Mazur take a break at Foley Square in downtown Manhattan... Full Image The demonstrators stretched for about 10 blocks as they headed down Broadway. Organizers said 300,000 people marched, though a police spokesman declined to give an estimate. There were no reports of arrests.

"We are here today because the war is illegal, immoral and unethical," said the Rev. Al Sharpton. "We must bring the troops home."

Organizers said the march was also meant to oppose any military action against Iran, which is facing international criticism over its nuclear program. The event was organized by the group United for Peace and Justice.

"We've been lied to, and they're going to lie to us again to bring us a war in Iran," said Marjori Ramos, 43, of New York. "I'm here because I had a lot of anger, and I had to do something."

Steve Rand, an English teacher from Waterbury, Vt., held a poster announcing, "Vermont Says No to War."

"I'd like to see our troops come home," he said.

The march stepped off shortly after noon from Union Square, with the demonstrators heading for a rally between a U.S. courthouse and a federal office building in lower Manhattan.

The death toll in Iraq for April was the highest for a single month in 2006. At least 2,399 U.S. military members have died since the war began. An Army soldier was the latest victim, killed Saturday in a roadside explosion in Baghdad.

That figure is well below some of the bloodiest months of the Iraq conflict, but is a sharp increase over March, when 31 were killed. January's death toll was 62 and February's 55. In December, 68 Americans died.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"We've been lied to, and they're going to lie to us again to bring us a war in Iran," said Marjori Ramos, 43, of New York. "I'm here because I had a lot of anger, and I had to do something."

Contrariwise to the above rhetoric, I wish to display my support for the 9-11 widows and families. It pains me that at this point in our nations war which resulted from the attacks we have no memorial on the site of UA93's crash or the WTC, NY. The above quoted woman would do better to channel her energies for the good of our nation.

No one has a right to be angry more than these families who have lost loved ones in the war. More were lost in one day, 11 September AD 2001, than have been lost in the years of warfare since. Read the following column, from the Wall Street Journal by one such family member for an alternate viewpoint which I feel is correct in the totality. Also please remember these families in your prayers at this difficult time.

United 93 The filmmakers got it right.

BY DAVID BEAMER Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT

The calendar says it's April 25, 2006. At noon, my wife, Peggy, and I are walking around Battery Park--near the Tribeca area--in New York. It is our first time. The flowers are blooming; kids are fishing; people boarding the ferry to Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty. Kids are laughing and noisy. The sun is shining. The vendors are hawking T-shirts, pretzels and some "designer" wares. And just up the street there is a hole in the skyline and in the ground.

In the park, there is a memorial with walls standing tall. Walls filled with so many names of those who gave their all in the Atlantic in World War II. How fitting that the names are here to honor those who gave their lives to enable this fun, this laughter--on this sunny day. The sights and sounds of freedom continue.

Fast forward--it is 10:30 p.m., April 25. We have just seen a movie premiere at the fifth annual Tribeca Film Festival. A film festival that has done so much to energize and revitalize the city, its people and especially the area that has that hole in the skyline and in the ground. This year the movie that had its worldwide premiere at the festival is titled "United 93." It is about the day when the hole in the skyline of New York was made--the day when a hole was made in the side of the Pentagon near Washington, D.C.--the day when a hole was made in a quiet mountain meadow in Pennsylvania. The day that our nation was attacked; the day when the war came home--Sept. 11, 2001. The day our son Todd boarded United 93.

Paul Greengrass and Universal set out to tell the story of United Flight 93 on that terrible day in our nation's history. They set about the task of telling this story with a genuine intent to get it right--the actions of those on board and honor their memory. Their extensive research included reaching out to all the families who had lost loved ones on United Flight 93 as the first casualties of this war. And Paul and his team got it right.

There are those who question the timing of this project and the painful memories it evokes. Clearly, the film portrays the reality of the attack on our homeland and its terrible consequences. Often we attend movies to escape reality and fantasize a bit. In this case and at this time, it is appropriate to get a dose of reality about this war and the real enemy we face. It is not too soon for this story to be told, seen and heard. But it is too soon for us to become complacent. It is too soon for us to think of this war in only national terms. We need to be mindful that this enemy, who made those holes in our landscape and caused the deaths of some 3,000 of our fellow free people, has a vision to personally kill or convert each and every one of us. This film reminds us that this war is personal. This enemy is on a fanatical mission to take away our lives and liberty--the liberty that has been secured for us by those whose names are on those walls in Battery Park and so many other walls and stones throughout this nation. This enemy seeks to take away the free will that our Creator has endowed in us. Patrick Henry got it right some 231 years ago. Living without liberty is not living at all. The passengers and crew of United 93 had the blessed opportunity to understand the nature of the attack and to launch a counterattack against the enemy. This was our first successful counterattack in our homeland in this new global war-- World War III.

This film further reminds us of the nature of the enemy we face. An enemy who will stop at nothing to achieve world domination and force a life devoid of freedom upon all. Their methods are inhumane and their targets are the innocent and unsuspecting. We call this conflict the "War on Terror." This film is a wake-up call. And although we abhor terrorism as a tactic, we are at war with a real enemy and it is personal.

There are those who would hope to escape the pain of war. Can't we just live and let live and pretend every thing is OK? Let's discuss, negotiate, reason together. The film accurately shows an enemy who will stop at nothing in a quest for control. This enemy does not seek our resources, our land or our materials, but rather to alter our very way of life.

I encourage my fellow Americans and free people everywhere to see "United 93."

Be reminded of our very real enemy. Be inspired by a true story of heroic actions taken by ordinary people with victorious consequences. Be thankful for each precious day of life with a loved one and make the most of it. Resolve to take the right action in the situations of life, whatever they may be. Resolve to give thanks and support to those men, women, leaders and commanders who to this day (1,687 days since Sept. 11, 2001) continue the counterattacks on our enemy and in so doing keep us safe and our freedoms intact.

May the taste of freedom for people of the Middle East hasten victory. The enemy we face does not have the word "surrender" in their dictionary. We must not have the word "retreat" in ours. We surely want our troops home as soon as possible. That said, they cannot come home in retreat. They must come home victoriously. Pray for them. Mr. Beamer is the father of Todd Beamer, a passenger on United Airlines Flight 93.

"If we will not be governed by God then we will be ruled by tyrants" -Wm. Penn founder; "Holy Experiment" of the American Republic

Ryan Bailey  posted on  2006-05-01   10:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"Tens of thousands of protesters marched Saturday through lower Manhattan to demand an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq"

BWAHAHAHAHA!! I'll bet Dubyuh's just quakin' in his boots now...LOL!!

We had this argument in November 2004...and the RATbots LOST...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-02   10:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ryan Bailey, continental op, JHoffa_ (#1)

"May the taste of freedom for people of the Middle East hasten victory. The enemy we face does not have the word "surrender" in their dictionary. We must not have the word "retreat" in ours. We surely want our troops home as soon as possible. That said, they cannot come home in retreat. They must come home victoriously."

Bingo, Mr. Bailey...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-05-02   10:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

"Bingo, Mr. Bailey...MUD"

LOL...so you are alleging I was cheering myself on...sure, that's omething I would do...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-25   13:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mudboy Slim (#4)

confession?

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-25   13:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#3)

"We must not have the word "retreat" in ours. We surely want our troops home as soon as possible. That said, they cannot come home in retreat. They must come home victoriously."

Mr. Bailey does make a good point, though..."defeat is not an option"...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-25   13:08:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

Not at all...that's simply not...MUD

Question Conventional Wisdom!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2006-06-25   13:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mudboy Slim (#7)

You're kind of like Clinton. When he said "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" The whole world knew he was lying.

A K A Stone  posted on  2006-06-25   13:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mudboy Slim (#4)

LOL!

Damn you're stupid.

Democracy was getting old anyway...

Jhoffa_  posted on  2006-06-25   13:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

tag test..

"[My]duplicate screen names end up being post&runners, whereas the permanent screen name means you must be accountable for whatever positions you take.." Mudboy Slim

Jhoffa_  posted on  2006-06-25   13:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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