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Title: No one is pettier than government.
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Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/blog/2017/11/29/ ... e-was-choked-defecated-himself
Published: Nov 29, 2017
Author: Ed Krayewsk
Post Date: 2017-12-01 05:42:15 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 2495
Comments: 49
A Michigan man claims that when he tried to pay a parking ticket in Royal Oak with pennies, a court officer responded by choking him. The attack led him to defecate, he says. The alleged assault was caught on surveillance tape. An attorney for Anthony Sevo says he intends to sue. Sevo was charged with disturbing the peace and assaulting an officer. He plead no contest on the first charge and the latter was dropped. "I don't think anyone paying in penny rolls, whether it's a preferred thing to do for a court clerk, warrants this type of this assaultive behavior and violation of constitutional rights," the lawyer told Fox's Detroit affiliate. The ticket was for just $10. Sevo said he was willing to pay with a credit card, but balked at the processing fee of $1.75—17.5 percent of his fine. By comparison, a 2013 settlement between credit card companies and businesses limited the "swipe fee" merchants could charge to 4 percent. If Royal Oak officials are worried about an influx of coin payers, it can buy an industrial coin counter for about $400. Otherwise, for the occasional coin payment far cheaper options are available. Coin and currency are legal tender for debts, public charges, and taxes. In Pennsylvania a few years ago, one small town learned that the federal regulation it was invoking to reject coin payments had in fact expired half a century earlier. As petty as trying to pay a $10 fine in pennies might be (and as far as paying with pennies goes, that's relatively mild—this year a Virginia man tried to pay $3,000 worth of car taxes in pennies), the government's actions are pettier. But why would anyone expect any different? The residents of Royal Oak don't have a choice of government. Sure, they can vote every few years, but the local bureaucracies remain in place irrespective of who wins. The 44th District Court, where the incident happened, doesn't have to worry about customer service because there's no competitive pressure. Whether or not you're satisfied with them, you're going to have to pay your fines there, and take it. 
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Coming from you, Deckard….that is a grossly absurd statement.
So...in Gatlin Bizarro World, using legal tender to pay a fine is un-American and should result in a beating by police? The ticket was for just $10. Sevo said he was willing to pay with a credit card, but balked at the processing fee of $1.75—17.5 percent of his fine. By comparison, a 2013 settlement between credit card companies and businesses limited the "swipe fee" merchants could charge to 4 percent. Should the city be charged with breaking the law and for usury? That’s as twisted as your warped mind and unworthy of an intelligent response.
Yeah - I guess the question was too tough for you. Thanks for playing. The fact that you deem any of your responses "intelligent" only shows how delusional you really are. Is the city a business?
Not even close. When he tried to pay a parking ticket with pennies, the court clerk refused. He was asked to leave the building and was escorted out by two court oficers. On the way out, there was a scuffle and he was restrained. He was charged with assaulting a police officer and disturbing the peace. The assault charge was eventually dropped in a plea agreement that required Sevy to plead no contest to disturbing the peace.
Hence the title of the article. I have no problem with the title of the article.
You should be allowed to pay in pennies. It is legal money.
True. And you CAN pay in pennies. But the payee doesn't have to accept pennies. Or personal checks. Or credit cards. Or cash. I once paid a city fine where they only accepted a cashier's check. This story is not an issue of the form of payment offered. It's an issue of the form of payment accepted.
I think liberals, Democrats, progressives, the leftist academia, SJW Snowflakes, AND Mainstream Fake Media all challenge each other and Gubmint for "Pettiest." The reason for this pettiness and bullying is the perceived notion of "power" and "position" from these people who by and large possess low/no morals and honor.
Get bent, Cyclops.
That's convenient since you are incapable of such a challenge. Why are you such a lame cartoon character?
The government has to accept government created money. Don't be stupid. Or it would have to in a just and sane world.
I have time, I came back to respond and ask some clarification questions from you …
While I enjoy a VALID protest against something IMPORTANT, paying in pennies just to be a pain in the ass is dumb. I don’t know why the guy attempted to be a jackass to the clerk, who had nothing to do with his ticket. There is just no good purpose for being an ass simply to be an ass….and that is not the way to address an issue. If the guy felt like the fine was wrong or issued improperly, then he should contest it. If he did know that it was a righteous ticket and that he was simply upset that he got caught, then why be a typical Deckard type asshole? Having said that, if the court officer put a choke hold on the man for no good reason, then the court officer was wrong. On the other hand, if the man’s actions required the court officer to place a choke hold on him, then the man was wrong. Simple solution to all of this….bring on the law suit and let the court listen to the testimony from both sides, then show the TAPE and let the jury decide. BTW - I am glad he shit his pants for trying to be such a smart ass.
Uh….what law did the city break to be charged? Sevo said he was willing to pay with a credit card, but balked at the processing fee of $1.75—17.5 percent of his fine. By comparison, a 2013 settlement between credit card companies and businesses limited the "swipe fee" merchants could charge to 4 percent. The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues." This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy.
Sevo said he was willing to pay with a credit card, but balked at the processing fee of $1.75—17.5 percent of his fine. By comparison, a 2013 settlement between credit card companies and businesses limited the "swipe fee" merchants could charge to 4 percent. I asked you WHAT law and all you do is repeat the same post from which I asked you the question. What city, county, state or federal law was broken is HE DID NOT pay the processing fee? ERgo, I ask again: What law did the city break to be charged?
I didn’t read anything about an alleged BEATING by police….where did you get that from?
I went to pay a fine in pennies once about twenty some years ago. They wouldn't accept them unless I rolled them. A cop came and helped me roll them up. If I ever get a fine again I will pay in pennies. If they try to intimidate me I will let them arrest me then sue them.
Yeah i'd balk at that too. Pretty expensive. I could almost but two mcdoubles for that much money.
That’s fine, and I agree with you. It is the law that you can pay in coin. You responded to my post, that was not an answer to the question I asked Deckard. I will ask Deckard the SIMPLY question again.
I would balk at that too. But he never PAID anything. So, since he never paid ANYTHING, I ask Deckard AGAIN: What law did the city break, Deckard?
The answer is NO, the city broke NO law to be charged with. No PAYMENT was made, ergo NO LAW was broken. Now answer my other question Deckard. You said the guy received “a beating by the police? I read nothing about a “BEATING.” Where did you sse that he was beaten? You really don’t seem to have anything straight as to what happened here. There was no payment charge made for a credit card that was not used and no police officer BEAT the guy. Why are you so mixed up … Ping me when you can make SOME sense.
I was joking about balking at petty change. I could probably scrape together the other buck thirty five. It would just be one mcdounle I couldn't eat.
I was just mad about having to pay at the time. The cop was actually nice to come help me roll them up. Come to think of it was random change in a cup.
U.S. Department of the Treasury - Legal Tender Status The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues." This statute means that all United States money as identified above are a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor. There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person or an organization must accept currency or coins as for payment for goods and/or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether or not to accept cash unless there is a State law which says otherwise. For example, a bus line may prohibit payment of fares in pennies or dollar bills. In addition, movie theaters, convenience stores and gas stations may refuse to accept large denomination currency (usually notes above $20) as a matter of policy. H/T: Hondo I received an expired parking meter ticket in Peru, Indiana, in late December during the mid 1960s. The fine was $10. The meter did show expired. It was a cold Winter day and I deposited coins in the meter again, took the ticket in my hand and walked a block to the City Hall. I went up to the Desk Sergeant with the ticket in my hand and a $10 bill. I said as I handed the ticket and the $10 bill to the Sergeant: Sergeant, I am here to pay the $10 for a meter expired ticker, but I know for a fact I was only gone for only 40 of the 60 minutes I paid for. The Sergeant handed me the $10 bill back, kept the ticket and wrote something on it. He then told me to forget it, that some of the meters have a mind of their own at temperatures below freezing. It was far below freezing temperature that day. I didn’t expect him to do what he did and the $10 meant really nothing to me. I never noticed the cops name, but I will always remember his smile as he said to me: Oh, by the way….Merry Christmas. Before I turned to head out the door … True story but the wording may be paraphrasing since I of course don’t remember the exact wording. I do know that was only the second ticket from a cop I have ever received in my life. The first was also an expired meter ticket I received in Biloxi, Mississippi. I have never had a moving violation ticket by any cop …
I am fully aware of all of that….but I simply don’t understand either what you are saying….or….what transpired between the guy and the clerk. I still cannot see where the city broke any law as you have stated. Help me … Did the clerk refuse to take the rolls of pennies for the ticket and the guy NEVER paid for the ticket with the rolls of pennies….but had to pay with paper currency, a check or something else? If the guy did not pay with the pennies, then what did he pay with? If the guy did pay with the pennies, then what law did the city break?
Ah, forget the whole thing. I’m through here and want to move on to discussing something I can make heads or tails from. I read the article here a couple of times more as well as the article linked to and watched the video twice. I can’t figure what’s going on. I could get no audio on the video and I could not see what the guy did or hear what the guy said before the officer took him down outside. There are too many unknowns here for me to attempt in any way to pass assign culpability. The best I can tell is that he does have the bag of pennies in his hand when he walked out the building. Therefore, I can conclude the city was wrong in refusing to accept the pennies as payment for the fine. Can the city be charged for breaking the law by that. The answer to your original question is that I don’t know. I will leave it up to the court to decide who is right and who is wrong during the trial. I will also leave it at this: I have no sympathy for the smart ass. Moving on …
It's always the Paultards that kick, scream, cry or shit themselves. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
That they should... I agree. On the same token, government should pay this asshole his tax return... in pennies. Some people should treat others the way they would like to be treated. The office clerk collecting the fine, isn't the person who had ANYTHING to do with this asshole parking like a Paultard. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
If I were they guy’s boss, I would pay the smart ass punk in unrolled pennies each pay day. Yep, I surely would. I would do that four, five or more times before I fired him. I would not want someone with his attitude working for me.
The Sergeant handed me the $10 bill back, kept the ticket and wrote something on it. He then told me to forget it, that some of the meters have a mind of their own at temperatures below freezing. It was far below freezing temperature that day. I didn’t expect him to do what he did and the $10 meant really nothing to me. I never noticed the cops name, but I will always remember his smile as he said to me: Oh, by the way….Merry Christmas. Before I turned to head out the door I was gripped by your dramatic story. Of ALL the unexpected things!! Now what would have the Sgt have done if you were all set to pay your fine with a five, three ones, and two dollars in small change? Hmmm? But you didn't! You had a Ten-Spot! What a Hallmark Card moment! The Sgt wished you a "Merry Christmas, Gilligan!!" HO-HO-HO Meeeery Christmas!! It's...it's...the new "Christmas Story" movie!...And a Love Story! *sob sniffle* (Were there snow flurries on that very day?) Yes, the Hallmark Movie: GrandIsland can be cast to play the warm-hearted desk Sgt who knows the town parking meters had been rigged by City Hall into virtual slot-machines, ripping off its hard-working town-folk off for months or years without informing them or the Judges. But in this one special instance, the Desk Sgt turns into an honest Santa...maybe because he got "lucky" with the Misses the night before. Or MAYBE Gilligan flirted just a bit. "Nice guns ya got there, handsome. You work out?" Playing the part of Mr. Humble-Honest Guy, Gilligan, of course is a young Frank Burns, who has merely ducked into Floyd the Barber's for a quick crew cut and...um...a massage before that warm and fuzzy Christmas tale at City Hall. But...but...how does it end, Gilligan?? How does it end?!?? The suspense is killing me. Did you take that ten bucks and drop the sawbuck into a Salvation Army kettle? Drop in the church basket on Sunday? Did you ever see Sgt. Dreamy again?? "According to the script I'm reading, in this scene I'm supposed to return to the Sergeant's desk an hour later and break down a future major taboo and 'social barrier.' Now what's that mean??"
LOL...Right. Go further. Let the gubmint badges haul the "Paultard's" azz into jail. Then PELT him with his pennies!! Why? BECAUSE THEY CAN. (Not that THAT would be "petty" either.)
Yep, I surely would. I would do that four, five or more times before I fired him. Lol, you people are insane.
Pretty much it. The guy would have run Mary and Joseph in and sentenced them to vagrancy and loitering 2000 years ago. Gatlin would also have been the type of Roman centurion to battle the other Roman scourgers for the "right" to beat Jesus "for disobeying Caesar."
I wouldn't work for any law enforcement department that took or received money for any arrest, ticket or summons. That's not my job. I don't want anything to do with how you plea, what your fine or sentence is... or collecting any money. I arrest... the courts can do their job. The courts have never helped me do my job... they can do their own. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Relax, I know. I needed to cast someone for the role. You won ;-)
Conveniently, Gilligan overlooked the effort to remediate the problem and saw only the kind of "solution" he lives for: Gestapo Tactics.
That's not the same assholeary he dished out to the poor court clerk... why suggest this even as sarcasm? Must be a little cop hate drama. lol All I suggested is that someday, this asshole be treated like he treated the court clerk... who had nothing to do with him getting a parking ticket. She/he was doing their job. Btw... this Einstein isn't the only one who's thought of paying a parking ticket with pennies. Some courts have change counters. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Hondo: The pertinent portion of law that applies to your question is the Coinage Act of 1965, specifically Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," which states: "United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues." That's gonna leave a mark. BUT...maybe we ought to give Gatlin and his bad eyeball the benefit of doubt. Maybe it's still not fully healed... So instead that bad eyeball read Section 31 U.S.C. 5103 thusly: "Gubmint Officials have the option of beating the crap out of citizens THEN arresting and charging them with bogus charges who have the audacity to pay their debts, public charges, taxes, and dues with legal tender in US coinage."
Hehe-heh...yeah. It's sport here. On both sides. All I suggested is that someday, this asshole be treated like he treated the court clerk... who had nothing to do with him getting a parking ticket. She/he was doing their job. That may be...but part of that "job description" wasn't acting out like a psycho and choking the guy, was it? Btw... this Einstein isn't the only one who's thought of paying a parking ticket with pennies. Some courts have change counters. Yes...which would have made a lotta sense, wouldn't it have? Some of these poor people who must pay fines are literally scraping around for the few bucks and busted. It may be construed as an insult on a part of the clerk, BUT the ticket WAS being paid. I've found myself having to scrape toll money on occasion...which happens to include a few nickels and PENNIES at times. I don't much appreciate the crap I get from $25 per hour vegetable-IQ crybaby toll collectors.
I wonder if this was a government's action. Perhaps it was an action of a frustrated guy who happened to be working for the government? If the situation were reversed, would this defecation be a government's action too?
Unrolled pennies can be recycled for more than the face value. I'm sure your employee would thank you for the raise.
I think you are speaking about the intrinsic value, the value of currency as determined by the weight, composition and prices of its material. If so, then you are talking “only used to be.” Today’s pennies contain 97.5% zinc and only 2.5% copper, rendering them not much more intrinsically valuable than paper money. Now if you were able to do the nearly impossible thing today and lay you hands on pennies produced in the US between 1909 and 1982 that would be a different story. Those pennies are 95% copper and 5% zinc, the metal “melt” value (at current prices) is 247% of its denominational marketplace value of one-cent. For the copper alone, at $3.72 per pound, the intrinsic value is about 2.5-cents. So if you had 100 pre-1982 pennies in a bag with a face value of $1.00, your bag would contain about $2.50 worth of copper. On a larger scale, a $100 face value worth of pre-1982 pennies would net about $250 worth of copper. Copper is what the penny hoarders really seek. These “copper” pennies are no longer in circulation. People know their value and hoard them. Any way….I didn’t bother to look up the price of zinc, but I don’t think the melt down would be worth the effort and definitely could not be considered profitable. Otherwise, many people would be doing that.
This incident is still on my mind, and I spent some time carefully reviewing the video….maybe we can do it together and then let it go. While reviewing the video, we need to keep in mind that there is no audio and we must also be acutely aware that the video we will be viewing was presented to the media apparently by Anthony Sevy’s attorney….and it has been highly edited to show only what the attorney is trying to prove. The edited video begins – Anthony Sevy is cleared through the security screening at the building entrance where Sevy then takes his coat, puts it on and is given his sack [apparently containing the pennies] to proceed to the clerk’s desk. The video is chopped at this point - The next scene shows Sevy standing between two officers at the clerk’s desk. There is an obvious intended omission in the video to hide the reason why the officers were called to, or decided to go to, the clerk’s desk. We have been restricted from knowing at this point in time why the officers are there. Continuing – As the chopped video starts again, the video shows that Sevy is highly irritated and very boisterous as he is shown making “in-your-face” lively animated remarks to the officer on his right who is apparently trying to escort him out of the building since he is “disturbing the peace” [a charge he later pleaded “no contest” to in a plea bargain]. The video is chopped again - The next scene shows the officer directly behind and in very close proximity to Sevy as he is escorting Sevy out of the office area into the vestibule. [The officer did not follow Sevy out of the building as was erroneously reported another news source]. At this point, the video is blocked by a wall between the time the officer was escorting Sevy through the door into the vestibule on his way to continuing escorting Sevy out towards the front door of the building. As the two emerged from behind the view blocking wall, there may have been push back by Sevy in his effort to prevent being him escorted from the building through the vestibule. The officer has never laid a hand on Sevy until this point. So there can be no logical reason why he did so at this time....other than prevent Sevy from stopping and to force Sevy tp continue towards the front door. The officer can now be seen placing his left hand on the top back of Sevy’s coat and grabbing Sevy by the seat of his trousers to continue forward movement toward the front door. It was at this time Sevy moved to the right in his effort to stay in the building and the officer did an immediate take down which was followed by the arrest of Sevy. The only logical conclusion an intelligent person can make after carefully reviewing the video is that had Sevy continued, without his push back, the incident would not have ended in the embarrassing catastrophe it did for him. Reviewing - Looking at the video, one can see the officer was directly behind Sevy as they passed through the door from the office into the vestibule. As you continue to watch the video, you can see that instead of proceeding towards the front door with the officer directly behind him, Sevy pushed back against the officer and move to the right in an effort not be ejected from the building. These movements by Sevy resulted in an immediate take down by the officer. In summary - It is the decision of this trained and unbiased observer that Sevy was the aggressive instigator of the incident that resulted in his being placed in a take down hold and then arrested for assaulting an officer who was merely trying to get Sevy to leave the building. Hey – The guy was an obnoxious asshole, he fucked up and he paid the price. Now as always when dealing with these crappy individuals….the city will settle out of court and the leech will “live happily ever after” at the expense of taxpayers. There …
That was clearly and blatantly ASSAULT, Cyclops. BY THE CLERK IN THE LOBBY. Better return to your ophthalmologist.
No one is pettier than government.
#2. To: Gatlin (#1)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#3. To: Deckard (#2)
#4. To: Gatlin (#3)
unworthy of an intelligent response.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#5. To: Deckard (#2)
Should the city be charged with breaking the law and for usury?
#6. To: Deckard (#0)
A Michigan man claims that when he tried to pay a parking ticket in Royal Oak with pennies, a court officer responded by choking him.
#7. To: misterwhite (#6)
When he tried to pay a parking ticket with pennies, the court clerk refused.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#8. To: Deckard (#7)
Hence the title of the article.
#9. To: misterwhite (#6)
#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)
You should be allowed to pay in pennies. It is legal money.
#11. To: Deckard (#0)
#12. To: Gatlin (#1)
#13. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#3)
Gatin: "unworthy of an intelligent response."
#14. To: misterwhite (#10)
#15. To: Deckard (#2)
So...in Gatlin Bizarro World, using legal tender to pay a fine is un-American and should result in a beating by police?
I didn’t read anything about an alleged BEATING by police….where did you get that from? The ticket was for just $10. Sevo said he was willing to pay with a credit card, but balked at the processing fee of $1.75—17.5 percent of his fine.
His right to refuse….so, what’s the problem here? Should the city be charged with breaking the law …?
Uh….what law did the city break to be charged? … breaking the law….for usury?
What is the LAW for usury and how did the city break the law?
#16. To: Deckard (#15)
#17. To: Gatlin (#15)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#18. To: Gatlin, Deckard, Liberator, misterwhite, A K A Stone (#15)
Uh….what law did the city break to be charged?
Book 'em Danno!
U.S. Department of the Treasury - Legal Tender Status
#19. To: Deckard (#17)
Uh….what law did the city break to be charged?
#20. To: All (#15)
So...in Gatlin Bizarro World, using legal tender to pay a fine is un-American and should result in a beating by police?
#21. To: hondo68, gatlin (#18)
#22. To: Deckard (#17)
$1.75
#23. To: A K A Stone (#21)
#24. To: A K A Stone, Deckard (#22)
#25. To: Deckard (#24)
(Edited)
Deckard: Should the city be charged with breaking the law and for usury?
#26. To: Gatlin (#24)
#27. To: Gatlin (#23)
#28. To: Gatlin (#19)
ERgo, I ask again: What law did the city break to be charged?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#29. To: A K A Stone (#27)
(Edited)
#30. To: Deckard (#28)
#31. To: Deckard (#30)
#32. To: Gatlin (#31)
The attack led him to defecate, he says.
#33. To: A K A Stone (#14)
The government has to accept government created money.
#34. To: GrandIsland (#33)
#35. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone, Gatlin, GrandIsland (#29)
I went up to the Desk Sergeant with the ticket in my hand and a $10 bill. I said as I handed the ticket and the $10 bill to the Sergeant: Sergeant, I am here to pay the $10 for a meter expired ticker, but I know for a fact I was only gone for only 40 of the 60 minutes I paid for.
#36. To: GrandIsland (#33)
On the same token, government should pay this asshole his tax return... in pennies.
#37. To: Gatlin (#34)
If I were they guy’s boss, I would pay the smart ass punk in unrolled pennies each pay day.
#38. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#2)
So...in Gatlin Bizarro World, using legal tender to pay a fine is un-American and should result in a beating by police?
#39. To: Liberator (#35)
GrandIsland can be cast to play the warm-hearted desk Sgt who knows the town parking meters had been rigged by City Hall
#40. To: GrandIsland (#39)
#41. To: Deckard, Gatlin (#17)
Sevo said he was willing to pay with a credit card, but balked at the processing fee of $1.75—17.5 percent of his fine. By comparison, a 2013 settlement between credit card companies and businesses limited the "swipe fee" merchants could charge to 4 percent.
#42. To: Liberator (#36)
Go further. Let the gubmint badges haul the "Paultard's" azz into jail. Then PELT him with his pennies!!
#43. To: hondo68, Gatlin, nolu chan (#18)
Herr Gilligan: "Uh….what law did the city break to be charged?"
#44. To: GrandIsland (#42)
(Edited)
That's not the same assholeary he dished out to the poor court clerk... why suggest this even as sarcasm? Must be a little cop hate drama. lol
#45. To: Deckard (#0)
A Michigan man claims that when he tried to pay a parking ticket in Royal Oak with pennies, a court officer responded by choking him.
#46. To: Gatlin (#34)
(Edited)
#47. To: A K A Stone (#46)
(Edited)
Unrolled pennies can be recycled for more than the face value. I'm sure your employee would thank you for the raise.
#48. To: Deckard (#47)
#49. To: Gatlin (#48)
(Edited)
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