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Title: Just before the Charlottesville car speeds up, it was hit by some guy with a flag pole
Source: [None]
URL Source: https://streamable.com/21gc9
Published: Aug 14, 2017
Author: nolu chan
Post Date: 2017-08-14 13:03:12 by nolu chan
Keywords: None
Views: 3239
Comments: 17

https://streamable.com/21gc9

http://www.pacificpressagency.com/

Just before the Charlottesville car speeds up, it was hit by some guy with a flag pole.

It is clear in the gallery of photos, below:

http://www.pacificpressagency.com/assetpreview/getnw/484824?c=7e011659526dfe0952e7f32e4ebd1289&sz=612&1502729305

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#8. To: nolu chan (#0)

So what? Are you suggesting that is a valid reason to murder people at random?

sneakypete  posted on  2017-08-14   19:53:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#8)

So what? Are you suggesting that is a valid reason to murder people at random?

No, I am raising the possibility that it may not be murder at all.

His car was stopped by an unlawful assembly of people blocking the street. At least one person starts using a bat-like flag pole before the rear window is broken and while the car he plowed into is still obscured behind the crowd.

He may have feared for his life or just hit the accelerator as a reaction to his car getting beaten upon. Think Reginald Denny. Does he wait there to get beat to death, does he go forward or reverse?

Did he hit the accelerator as a reflex action or a fight or flight response? Absent an intent to harm, it isn't murder. It could be involuntary homicide or a justified action.

The people in the street initiated the event by beating on his car. They did this while engaged in unlawful action. It does not appear to be an act of terror, except maybe the driver acted out of his own terror.

What do you do when the road is blocked in front of you, and behind you, and you are in the middle of an unlawful and unruly mob, and your car is being beaten on, and your body may be next?

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-14   21:08:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan (#10)

No, I am raising the possibility that it may not be murder at all.

His car was stopped by an unlawful assembly of people blocking the street. At least one person starts using a bat-like flag pole before the rear window is broken and while the car he plowed into is still obscured behind the crowd.

He may have feared for his life or just hit the accelerator as a reaction to his car getting beaten upon. Think Reginald Denny. Does he wait there to get beat to death, does he go forward or reverse?

Ok,I agree you MIGHT have a point there,but I didn't see what you saw in the video that I watched.

Maybe we watched different videos,and you saw one filmed from a different angle than the one I watched?

Not that truth makes any actual difference at this point. Facts rarely win arguments based on emotion,and that goober has an almost impossible task put before him to convince a jury he isn't a murderer.

And I have to admit to my own prejudices and emotions taking a part. If you mention the words "Neo-Nazi",I immediately want to hang the SOB as being an insult to mankind everywhere,so like many people,I am predisposed to to assume the worse things I hear or read are the truth.

And truth to tell,I fell the same way about the modern Klansmen.

In other words,for the "emotional me",that goober started out with two strikes against him. I'm wanting to hang him twice right out of the box.

I suspect there are many,many people out there that share my prejudices.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-08-15   12:04:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#16. To: sneakypete (#15)

modern Klansmen

... antifada

BorisY  posted on  2017-08-15 12:29:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#15)

https://streamable.com/21gc9

The embed code resulted in a very small image. The video is larger at the "streamable" site, and can be expanded to full screen. It is not very clear but I can see that guy in the still photo hitting the car. The still photo is clear and helps to set the relative time of this event.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-15 13:03:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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