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Title: Conservative Anglicans are close to despair. Is the C of E about to split?
Source: CH
URL Source: http://catholicherald.co.uk/comment ... ir-is-the-cofe-about-to-split/
Published: Jul 20, 2017
Author: Andrew Sabisky
Post Date: 2017-07-23 11:24:48 by Anthem
Keywords: Gramsci, cultural Marxism, Church
Views: 4459
Comments: 17

As an Anglican, I used to think theological liberalism was on the wane. Not any more

Anyone with a lick of sense can see that the Church of England is in serious trouble. Congregational decline, child abuse scandals, and financially desperate cathedrals are just the most obvious symptoms of a very broad disease. As an Anglican, I have been confident that the Church would manage to turn things around in a few decades. After the most recent meeting of General Synod, however, I am no longer so confident.

On the face it, the Synod’s changes were all fairly minor. For all the fuss, the proposal to write official liturgies affirming the new gender identity of transgender people may well be ignored even by Church’s own bishops; and the changes on regulation of vestments merely rubber-stamps what already takes places across swathes of the Church.

But the most significant thing about the Synod was the manner in which it was conducted. The bishops stayed largely silent as Synod did theology by endless anecdote. The only notable episcopal contributions came from the liberal northern prelates (especially Paul Bayes of Liverpool). An outburst of anti-capitalism from the Archbishop of York provided comedy value amongst the general dour air of neo-Puritanism. The monotonous drumbeat of socialism and sexual liberalism was only broken by the ecumenical contribution of Bishop Angaelos of the Coptic Orthodox Church, who warned Synod that it’s bad for PR and the soul to spend so much time talking about sex. His plea fell on deaf ears.

Leading conservative Synod members seem to have left in a state of mind verging on despair. They have suffered no major defeats, but seem confident that it’s only a matter of time. The general consensus is that the “middle third” of Synod has no more appetite for gruelling fights or media uproar, and will quietly acquiesce to liberal demands for church blessings of same-sex marriage, to be shortly followed by same-sex marriage itself.

Nor does anyone think that this will meet with any more than token resistance amongst the Church’s bishops, who seem to have largely abolished their own traditional role in developing doctrine, and handed it over to Synod. The Church selects bishops largely on their ability to avoid controversy and act as (at least nominal) figures of unity, a near-impossible role in a Church marked out by so many theological divisions. They are very carefully chosen so as not to have strong opinions on matters of faith. Consequently the ranks of the episcopacy are packed full of weak men. The chronic cowardice is part of the reason why their instinctive response to child abuse is cover-up, not rigorous public investigation.

Previously I was convinced that church liberalism would shortly hit its high-water mark and decline rapidly, simply because it is so bad at reproducing itself: the liberals would give way to the more orthodox younger clergy. In reality, though, it seems as though the Church of England is more likely to simply wind up going down the same path as The Episcopal Church in America, where it has dramatically fragmented as it liberalized. The orthodox either went to the various Continuing Anglican churches – most notably the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) – or became Roman Catholics. The seeds of such fragmentation are already being laid in the UK via the consecration by ACNA of a missionary bishop for the UK and Europe, who will operate outside the structures of the Church of England.

In another possible scenario, the Church of England will not formally break up, but will radically de-federalize into a series of “churches within a church”. All meaningful power would devolve to various bodies representing the various theological traditions. The Society of St Wilfrid and St Hilda is already well-set to take on this role for the traditionalist Anglo-Catholics, and no doubt a similar umbrella body could easily be set up for the more conservative evangelicals. These bodies could select their own priests, instead of training and ordination being managed by the diocese. Parishes would routinely affiliate with their favoured national umbrella body; the “Church of England” label would be limited to a strictly secondary place in their branding.

This would relieve the various factions of the apparently intolerable burden of having to tolerate one another. It would also end the ludicrous situation where bishops are tasked with being figures of unity in dioceses where no unity is possible. The Church would, in effect, have consciously uncoupled itself, achieving a peaceful separation without going through the expensive bother of formal divorce.

However, such a separation would leave the historic sees of Canterbury and York in the hands of the unsound. When governments try again, over the next several decades, to push through some form of legalised euthanasia or liberalised abortion, they will find willing accomplices governing over the husk of the Church of England, useful chaplains to the culture of death. The price for abandoning the fight for the centre of the Church will ultimately be paid in lives.


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They should split up and let the liberal Churches die on their own.

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#14. To: Anthem (#0) (Edited)

To Anthem, RLK, et al

As an Anglican/ Episcopalian, I too am concerned about the mother Church, both in England and in the US, or at least the north and the left coast. But in the Diocese of Texas where I live, liberalism is not rampant at all, thank God. Yes, there is one church (in Houston's Montrose-area church where all of Houston's LGBTQ's live) that lets openly gay priests serve communion. But I will never be caught dead taking communion there, and I mean that literally. You can theoretically catch AIDS and many other STDs from drinking the communion wine there because in the Episcopal churches it is watered down and is not strong enough to kill anything in the wine.

I too have published my 2-cents worth on this subject. In my book, The Revelation: a Historicist view, I devoted one of the chapters to the situation today in the Episcopal Church. It is my commentary on the letter of Jesus to Laodicea, the luke-warm rich Church that Jesus is on the verge of spitting out of his mouth (which I interpret to be the Episcopal Church primarily, but also many other lukewarm rich Churches -- including evidently most of the Anglican Church in Great Britain).

Anyhow, here is what I wrote about the subject:

Letter to Laodicea

A Literal Translation of Revelation 3:14-22

And to the messenger of the church in Laodicea write, These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, 15I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, I am wealthy and I have become rich, and I have need of nothing, and do not know that you are the wretched one, the pitiable one, and poor, blind, and naked, 18I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire, so that you may become rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, and the shame of your nakedness may not appear; and eye salve, so that you may anoint your eyes in order that you may see.

19As many as I love, I rebuke and I chasten. Be zealous therefore and repent. 20Behold, I stand at the door and I am knocking. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, then I will come in to him and I will dine with him, and he with Me.

21To the one that conquers, I will grant to sit with Me in My throne, as I also conquered and sat down with My Father in His throne. 22The one having an ear, let it hear what the Spirit says to the Churches.

The Church in Laodicea

On a personal note, up to this point, this commentary has mainly been critiquing other Churches when the words of Jesus pointed to it. But now, in an effort to be completely fair and balanced, I will here critique my own Church which is definitely pointed to, both subject-wise and vector-wise. That is, the Laodicea messenger is the source of three vectors that point to the three divisions of the western Patriarchate. One vector points to New York City, the headquarters of the Episcopal Church, and the other two vectors point to Canterbury and Rome. Extending the first vector a little bit further, it points to the US national church, i.e., the National Cathedral in Washington DC where virtually all of our presidents have worshipped.

Extending the vector still further, it points to the mother church of another nation, where I happen to reside (called Texas). On most Sundays the worshippers were Episcopalians, but if Santa Anna came around they were Roman Catholics (else they would all be shot). It is also worth noting that the rector was called the Elder (or Presbyter) and not “Father” as most Episcopals call their rector today (which is probably not pleasing to Jesus— see Mat 23:9). (My view, for lack of a better term, could be called “Texas Old School”).

Jesus is the Amen who witnesses everything in the last days just as He did in Asia Minor in the late first century. He is the beginning of the creation of God, or as Jesus says in the Gospels, He is the cornerstone that the builders rejected.

The Episcopal and Anglican Churches, and Rome for that matter, may be good at conquering, but they can all be said to be pretty rich and somewhat "lukewarm" spiritually. Jesus suggests that the western Churches are in danger of being vomited out of His mouth because we in the West tend to say, "I am wealthy and I have become rich and have need of nothing."

This letter can be hypothesized to apply, by way of many tangent vectors, to all rich Christians everywhere, especially those who do not buy gold in Heaven by helping to feed, clothe, and house the needy Christians they see around them every day. Jesus is always hard on rich people. In the Gospels, Jesus said “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven.” But He did not say it was impossible. There are some billionaires (Warren Buffet and Bill Gates for example) who have given away about 99 percent of their wealth, and I suspect that maybe, just maybe, St. Peter will let them in. But they will have to give up their agnosticism and join an established Church (established by St. Peter and his successors through the process known as the laying on of hands), otherwise Peter probably isn’t going to let them in.

This letter especially points to the Episcopal Church which, more so than any other Church, is known as the Church of the rich and powerful. Jesus appears to be saying to the Episcopal Church mainly, but also other rich Christians, to buy eye salve (from Him) and open their eyes to the error of their ways, and buy a white garment to hide their nakedness. (The white garment represents good works).

One thing Jesus tells all the Churches to do (in the Sardis letter) is to keep the Gospel they have received, and not change it every time the wind blows in order to try to conform to the world, and to be "politically correct.” That means that one thing Jesus is very likely displeased with, regarding the Episcopal Church, is the ordination of gay priests and bishops and the performing of same-sex marriages. While it is true that most gays are born with the "gay" gene, the Bible tells us we are all born with the tendency to sin in one way or another. And it says when we act on it, we are in grave danger of hell fire unless we repent. It can well be argued that same-sex marriages, more than anything else on Earth, are an abomination to God (see Leviticus 20:13). Jesus is standing at the door knocking, asking Episcopalians (especially the presiding bishop) to repent, as also on numerous occasions the Anglican Church has asked the presiding bishop to do, but to no avail.

But one thing that Jesus has to be proud of the Episcopal Church for is L4L (Love for the Least) that many Episcopalians contribute to. It is a multi- denominational charity headed by Jerry Kramer (originally from the church that I attend). They have brought food and water to the neediest of the needy around the world, while also saving their souls. And the one thing Jesus is probably the most happy about, is that L4L has recently opened a mission in northern Iraq, in the epicenter of the Battle of That Great Day Almighty, otherwise known as Ar Mageddon. And, unlike Obama, et al, L4L is caring for 2 million refugees there, and not bringing them here. Plus, Jerry Kramer and his organization are truly performing a miracle in the Middle East. That is, about a quarter of the refugees have converted to Christianity. Also important, L4L is the only international organization (as far as I know) that currently recognizes the new nation of Kurdistan now being born—which is fast becoming a Christian nation and is a fulfillment of several prophecies, including the one in the Pergamos letter (Revelation 2:17).

So I hold out some hope that Jesus will not spit my church out of his mouth. In the Laodicea letter, Jesus is urging all lukewarm Churches to repent and to conquer to the end, and then they will be granted to sit with Jesus in His throne. Jesus (or the Spirit) is looking ahead to the prophecy in the next chapter, and later expanded on in chapter 20, that twenty-four thrones will rule the Earth with Jesus for a glorious one thousand years. (And all the signs point to a new world order comprised of 24 Christian nations coming to pass very soon—see “2017 in Bible Prophecy” on last page)

This commentary should not be construed to mean that all Episcopal/Anglican/Roman Churches are lukewarm, or that all rich Christians are failing to do good works, or that the US, the UK, or Roman Catholic nations will not be included in the twenty-four Christian nations that will soon rule the Earth with Jesus in a glorious millennial reign of the Church.

Barry Midyet

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