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Title: DHS Head to America: Shut Up, Be Terrified, and Do What You’re Told
Source: Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/blog/2017/04/18/ ... o-america-shut-up-be-terrified
Published: Apr 18, 2017
Author: Scott Shackford
Post Date: 2017-04-19 05:16:05 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 869
Comments: 57

John Kelly

The fondling will continue until morale improves.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary John Kelly has heard all of that criticism from Americans who are upset at the way his employees treat them and other people, and he has a response for all of you ingrates: Shut up.

If you've ever dealt with surly Transportation Security Administration (TSA) staff who treat you as though you work for them and not the other way around, such behavior goes all the way to the top. In a wide-ranging speech designed to reinforce President Donald Trump's attitude that America is under siege, Kelly spoke told an audience at George Washington University and pretty much told them that without the aggressive approaches of the DHS we'd all be murdered by drug cartels and terrorist groups. So can it with the criticism.

The whole speech is watchable here at C-Span for the so-inclined. His speech was essentially a combination of every single post-9/11 security state speech combined with every single '80s and '90s drug warrior panic speech. The media responses are highlighting his defensiveness to criticism. Via The Hill:

Personnel are "often ridiculed and insulted by public officials, and frequently convicted in the court of public opinion on unfounded allegations testified to by street lawyers and spokespersons," Kelly said.

"If lawmakers do not like the laws they've passed and we are charged to enforce — then they should have the courage and skill to change the laws. Otherwise they should shut up and support the men and women on the front lines," Kelly said, to a burst of applause in the auditorium.

These comments came toward the end of his prepared speech, so it's useful to provide some context with the other things he talked about. He described the way Americans are treated by TSA when we travel as "a little bit of an inconvenience." He was not being sarcastic. He still believes that marijuana is a "gateway drug" and said so. He added that DHS will continue to force federal law on marijuana as long as it's against federal law, regardless of whatever the states may want. So keep that in mind if you're thinking of bringing some on a flight to anywhere. He also, incidentally, made a big deal that DHS employees swear an oath to defend the Constitution, which is notable inasmuch as there is no sign that the DHS has any respect for the Fourth Amendment whatsoever when it comes to searching Americans anywhere near the nation's borders.

Even further, a good chunk of his speech was full of fearmongering about drug cartels and recent increases in drug-related deaths to emphasize the rhetoric that our nation is under attack. He says at one point more people are dying from drugs than died during World War I, but his idea of dealing with increasing drug deaths is a "comprehensive plan to reduce drug demand." The problem is us, not them, you see. They have to figure out how to stop us from wanting to use drugs.

Kelly has a very typical cognitive dissonance issue we see a lot with law-and-order types. He insists that his people are enforcing the law, true enough. But his comments also make it very, very clear that he supports the drug war, though he does acknowledge at some point that America "can't arrest our way" out of the drug problem.

But who are the biggest opponents to changes in drug laws to maybe stop arresting people? Time and time again it's law enforcement lobbyists, whether we're talking about police, prosecutors, or prison representatives, who oppose any and all attempts to scale back their authorities to arrest and imprison people. The same folks who say "We're just enforcing the law" will fight tooth-and-nail any effort to crank back those laws. There's a tremendous amount of grant money and funding involved in "enforcing the law." They have strong incentives not to permit changes.

Similarly, Kelly therefore has every incentive to exaggerate the threats America faces, because his budgets depend on it, and President Trump is looking to spend, spend, spend on DHS and border security. In his speech he tries to suggest that DHS's budget has been cut to the bone. Though DHS's discretionary budget was cut during the sequester in 2008, DHS budgets and spending have been inching upward year after year (Check out this chart and read the text below to see which DHS agencies have been seeing the biggest boosts).

Kelly and his agents have every reason in the world to scare Americans into total compliance, every reason to insist that the drug war and terrorism is a constant threat, and every reason to suspect every traveler coming into the country could be a threat, and every reason to treat us as though we citizens are merely subjects of government authority. This also means that many of the domestic terror threats he mentions having prevented in his speech were frequently the result of undercover FBI stings that frequently are encouraging people to act out so that they can bust them, and it's not clear (and will never be clear) how many of these men would have actually done anything had undercover agents not been helping them along.

And the security theater driving the TSA's searches has long been exposed as ineffective, insulting, and incomprehensible. Their failures in catching actual threats compared to the inane overreactions they have to perfectly harmless objects are well known, and the result has been to actually dumb down procedures and make searches even more invasive rather than more effective.

Hey, Kelly, want to know why people hate you and your employees? Watch this video from ReasonTV. This is what you're telling Americans and lawmakers they should support:

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#1. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Author: Scott Schakford

Let’s see who is telling what, so we can try to determine why …

Scott Shackford is an associate editor at Reason.com.
[Reason is a libertarian monthly print magazine].

Shackford comes to Reason after nearly a decade of serving in various editing positions for Freedom Communications, a libertarian-leaning media chain that may or may not still exist depending on when this profile is being read. Prior to moving to Reason, he was editor in chief of the Desert Dispatch in Barstow, California, where he wrote editorials focusing on libertarian issues like wasteful municipal spending, school choice, the drug war and abuse of police authority. He also editorialized about state and federal transportation and energy spending. Living in the midst of heavily subsidized solar developments in the Mojave Desert, he warned about potential problems with the Department of Energy’s guaranteed loan program months before Solyndra actually filed for bankruptcy. He was one of the few newspaper editors in California to endorse Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana.

Before becoming part of the massive libertarian media establishment, Shackford once weighed in on much more important matters as a show recapper at Television Without Pity. There, his dislike of Clay Aiken and his disappointment with the writing on Firefly earned him the enmity of the entire Internet. All of it.

Shackford lives in Los Angeles.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   6:30:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

John Kelly is trying his best to keep America safe and while there are problems with TSA, he is working to correct those problems.

John Kelly and Homeland Security needs support and suggestions to make their tasks easier and less intrusive for the public.

Let us find reasons and ways to help with the problems….and not be a part of the problem offering only constant criticism and condemnation, which is of no help and solves nothing.

All you libertarians can ever do is piss and moan about everything….while never doing anything to correct any problems.

Oh, you ae helping by calling attention to the problems?

That’s a bunch of crap.

We are intelligent enough to already see the problems.

Damn, your repeated libertarian cry baby whining is really getting to be old stuff.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   7:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#2)

The 'men and women on the front lines' are a gaggle of louts who enjoy pulling children out of line to do a full body search! I'm sick and tired of their 'procedures' when they should be profiling. Profiling is what Israelis do and it has worked for decades.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   7:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Not allowing access to the video.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   7:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

Here's another one of a 3 year old girl.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   7:59:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#0)

He still believes that marijuana is a "gateway drug" and said so.

It is, mainly to cigarettes and booze. And to junk food.

A Pole  posted on  2017-04-19   8:02:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#1)

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   8:08:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#2)

Just bend over and take it slave -it's what you do best.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   8:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HomerBohn (#3)

The 'men and women on the front lines' are a gaggle of louts who enjoy pulling children out of line to do a full body search! I'm sick and tired of their 'procedures' when they should be profiling. Profiling is what Israelis do and it has worked for decades.
That’s your opinion and you are entitled to it, but it will change nothing….you are in the minority.

The latest Gallup Poll I saw shows the majority of Americans feel TSA is doing a good job. TSA must be doing a good job because there have been no successful aircraft involved terrorists attacks in America since 9-11.

An average of 1.73 million passengers fly each day in America. We go for days, even weeks, where we read of no problems with TSA. Then suddenly some mother gets upset because her autistic child gets a pat down. She posts a video on social media….then some folks come unglued and condemns the entire TSA.

While these condemnations of TSA occur, perhaps there is cause to thank the mother for unintended consequence. The social media coverage she causes gives notice and due warning to the Taliban, Islamic State, Boko Haram and other groups known to increasingly use children for suicide-bombings…that the TSA is watching out and no child suicide-bombers will board our aircraft.

TSA is constantly watching out to prevent a child suicide-bombing in an aircraft. In Turkey, a child suicide-bomber detonated his suicide vest among dancing guests at a Turkish wedding party, killing 51 people….nearly half of them children themselves.

So I say, keep up the good work TSA…continue TSA, to isolate problems and correct them when they are discovered, retrain employees when standards are not being met and fire any untrainable employee. Keep constantly improving and updating. Screw the naysayers and bleeding heart liberals. They will never like or approve of any actions….regardless of what you do.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   8:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#8)

Exposing you malicious and demoralizing agenda is what I do best.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   8:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#7)

It he is a libertarian messenger, as he was here….then it’s OPEN SEASON.

You betcha …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   8:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#9)

I mean no disrespect, sir, but do you work for the TSA?

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   8:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#10)

Alternate text if image doesn't load

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   8:31:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: HomerBohn (#5)

That happened on November 17, 2010 …

… an incident that happened over 6 years ago.

Come on, Homer!

Fire the screener in this case…I’ll go with you on that.

But when you are attacking the entire TSA for this….I’ll pass on that.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   8:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#13)

Come on, hondope....quite letting memes doing the talking for you.

Wait, you are Deckard?

Right ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   8:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#15)

Hey, Gatlin - want to know why people hate the TSA and its employees? Watch this video from ReasonTV. This is what you're telling Americans and lawmakers they should support:

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   8:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#14)

There's a better way to screen incoming passengers and culling out the potential terrorists! Just do that! Screwing around needlessly with children and 80 year old travelers is just plain stupid. It makes authority look asininely ignorant.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   8:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#14)

That happened on November 17, 2010 …

The current clips on the ineptitude of TSA goons are mysteriously taken down as soon as they're posted.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   9:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: HomerBohn (#3)

I'm sick and tired of [TSA’s] 'procedures' when [TSA] should be profiling.
What?

You don’t know that the TSA started profiling in 2007 using a “behavior detection program?” It required special “behavior detecti11on officers” to freely roam among passengers in airports looking for behavioral clues form people that may ave an intent to harm others.

Between 2007 and 2015, the TSA never produced one iota piece of empirical evidence to support the program worked. That was despite TSA rapidly expanding it in the past few year and costing taxpayers a total of $1.5 billion between 2007 and 2015.

In 2014 the Government Accountability Office (GAO) recommended that future funding for the TSA’s behavior detection programs be stopped, citing after “400 studies from the past 60 years” that found “the human ability to accurately identify deceptive behavior based on behavioral indicators is the same as or slightly better than chance.”

Profiling is what Israelis do and it has worked for decades.
What may be good for the goose is also good for the gander….what may be good in Israel has proven not to be good in America.

Oh, what were you saying about profiling?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   9:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: HomerBohn (#18)

That happened on November 17, 2010 …

The current clips on the ineptitude of TSA goons are mysteriously taken down as soon as they're posted.

That’s okay.

So, how many times has this happen since 9-11.

You don’t know. That’s okay, neither do I.

I’ll give you one better….how many times do you remember this happening during the last year?

Very isolated incidents….will you agree?

I believe that when an incident does happen, the TSA employee should be retrained so that it will not happen again…or if it is gross, then the TSA employee should be fired immediately.

But how you can condemn the entire TSA program on the ignorant misdeeds of just a very few of their employees….that, I fail to understand.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   9:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HomerBohn (#17)

Screwing around needlessly with children and 80 year old travelers is just plain stupid.
You don’t believe that children can be suicide-bombers?

Wait, I just proved to you they can.

You don’t believe that 80-year-olds can also be suicide-bombers?

Why not?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   9:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard (#16)

- want to know why people hate the TSA and its employees?

Nope!

I am not interested in your Reason libertarian propaganda.

The last Gallup Poll I saw revealed that the majority of Americans approve of the TSA and the work they are doing.

I’ll go with the majority of Americans in this case …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   9:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HomerBohn (#12)

I mean no disrespect, sir, but do you work for the TSA?

Nope!

No disrespect taken ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   9:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Gatlin (#21)

Why not indeed? Because I'm firmly in that age group. (Ha)

I, as you may have gathered, am fully in accord with profiling and not mass herding.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   9:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#22)

I’ll go with the majority of Americans in this case

That thin majority of those Americans are probably in that group that voted for Comrade Hillary.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   9:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin, HomerBohn (#21)

You don’t believe that children can be suicide-bombers?

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You don’t believe that 80-year-olds can also be suicide-bombers?

Alternate text if image doesn't load

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   9:54:27 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: HomerBohn (#24)

Why not indeed? Because I'm firmly in that age group. (Ha)
Ha ha….so am I.
I, as you may have gathered, am fully in accord with profiling and not mass herding.
I am also fully in accord with profiling, to Hell with the ACLU.

But I have demonstrated to you that profiling has been tried by TSA in our airports since 2007 to the tune of $1.7 billion [I believe it was]….and over 400 studies has shown it not to work in our airports.

Again, profiling in general under different situations….go for it.

But as a substitute to what TSA is doing now….no way, forget it.

BTW….addressing a previous point:

A mother was recently was described as ‘Livid’ as she watched a TSA Agent carefully do a complete pat down of her10-year-old child.

Somewhere in Nigeria, there is a mother who today no doubt wishes someone had done a complete pat down of her 10-year-old girl who died as a suicide-bomber.

You can continue to believe the pat down is unnecessary, as you wish.

I however say to fire the “goons,” as you call them, who abuse their duty….but keep the pat down in place using the current procedures.

TSA receives lots of condemnations, but the TSA must be doing things right because there have been no aircraft terrorist incidents in America since 9-11.

Thank you ,TSA, for the job you do….and God Bless America.

I will leave you with that …

Good ay to you, Sir.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   10:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deckard (#26)

Body Cavity Search
Quite with the photo editorializing already.
That is no body cavity search in that picture.
The kid has his pants on and up, while the
TSA Agent has his hands outside the kid’s pants.

You ar beginning to lie as much as Hondope.
Stop It!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   10:35:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin (#28)

Sod off sheep-boy.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   10:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard (#26) (Edited)

Had you rather see this …

… or this …

I will go with the former.

You can your libertarian bleeding heart and shove it …

Be Safe….Not Sorry!

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   10:49:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#29)

Sod off sheep-boy.

Nope.

I will be here kicking you ass and trying to
pound some sense in you head all day.

Get used to it …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   10:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: HomerBohn (#25)

I’ll go with the majority of Americans in this case

That thin majority of those Americans are probably in that group that voted for Comrade Hillary.

What?

That does not make sense ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   10:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#31)

I will be here kicking you ass

Seek help for your senile delusions gramps.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-19   10:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deckard (#33)

I will be here kicking you ass

Seek help for your senile delusions gramps.

Nothing senile here....read the posts for evidence of your ass kicking.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   11:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Deckard (#26)

The TSA admitted wrongdoing in two isolated incidents involving strip-searches of two elderly women by overzealous screeners who violated policy.

The TSA apologized for those incidents and took corrective action.

After TSA screening an average 1.73 million passengers per year in over 15 years and two screeners make mistakes and violate policy….you are trying to make this a “crisis situation.”

Bullshit on that.

Stop taking isolated incidents and try to blow them into gross condemnations where lighting strikes from the clear skiy are to be expected momentarily.

Get a friggin’ real life….can you?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   11:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#30)

But Gatlin, that little sh-t is a fooking Muslim and he's in Iraq.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   11:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Gatlin (#27)

One last comment on this subject and then I'll mix my noon time martini:

The Israelis know how it should be done as their intelligence service works very well, unlike our corrupted CIA. They spot potential troublemakers very quickly and know who they're looking for before the culprit gets to the airport.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   11:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin, whose love for Obama, will never die (#14)

happened on November 17, 2010 …

… an incident that happened over 6 years ago.

Yet your love for Obama hasn't diminished one bit, you continue to vigoriously defend him. You'll worship any authority figure no matter how evil. So your opinion is worthless - you're a government worshiping a$$kisser, and that's all there is to it.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

hondo68  posted on  2017-04-19   11:55:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Gatlin (#32)

Au contraire, mon ami.

(A little French lingo there to demonstrate my fondness for little froggies.)

I'm intimating there that most of those who like the herding done by the TSA cowboys probably voted for Hillary.

Gatlin, you appear to be a thoughtful and intelligent man; however, one can't help but notice that you usually side with the central government on various issues. I, on the other hand, believe the central socialist government has spun out of control over the past 100 years and needs to be seriously reigned in.

The TSA and the Homeland (in)Security agencies are a knee-jerk reaction to the Islamic suicide episode of 9/11. How poorly that was handled when instead of going after Saudi Arabia and carpet bombing their oil fields Bush decides to go after Saddam who protected Jews and Christians and bombed Tehran on a regular basis.

There are at least 1 million federal loafers that need to be permanently furloughed and the agencies they work for shut down forever. That means to yank out the communication lines, sell off the furniture and fixtures and sell the buildings, or otherwise get out of costly leases.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-19   12:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: HomerBohn (#36)

But Gatlin, that little sh-t is a fooking Muslim and he's in Iraq.
But Homer, does that mean there will never be a fooking Muslim little shit in American doing the same thing….and it only happens in Iraq?

Are we really ready to say that it only happens in Iraq and will never happen here….are we?

I believe it was old Murphy [not George Murphy, of course you remember him at your age] who created the old epigram that is typically stated as: “Anything that can go wrong, will.”

I don’t see why that cannot be paraphrased to read: “Anything that happened in Iraq, can happen here.”

Would that be a fair and proper paraphrasing …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-19   15:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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