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Title: Rep Massie lays out a plan for successful health care reform
Source: TheBlaze
URL Source: http://www.theblaze.com/video/rep-m ... successful-health-care-reform/
Published: Mar 30, 2017
Author: Dana Loesch
Post Date: 2017-03-30 00:54:40 by Hondo68
Keywords: None
Views: 837
Comments: 10

Congressman Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) joined Dana Loesch on “Dana” tonight to discuss health care reform: past, present, and what the future may bring.

Massie criticized the different elements in last week’s Republican health care bill:

“This bill is three bills inside of one: it was a ‘repeal’ bill, it was a ‘replace’ bill, and it was a Medicaid reform bill,” Massie said, suggesting that if they would split the bills apart and hold separate votes, that a “repeal” bill and a Medicaid reform bill could pass, leaving only a replacement bill to be ironed out.

They went on to discuss the dismal poll numbers for the health care bill, only reaching 17% approval at its height, which they juxtaposed with the repeal of Obamacare polling at higher than 50%.

“That tells you that the American people have figured out this is not the repeal bill that we were campaigning on,” Massie stated.

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Massie makes a lot of sense.

I especially like that the brave and wonderful Freedom Caucus isn't just going to let Ryan and McConnell and Trump walk away from all the promises that they made for years to repeal 0bamaCare.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-30   1:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)

"I especially like that the brave and wonderful Freedom Caucus isn't just going to let Ryan and McConnell and Trump walk away from all the promises that they made for years to repeal 0bamaCare."

Trump's bill kept pre-existing conditions and parental coverage of children under 26 -- two issues popular with the voters and their representatives.

Everything else is or will be gutted.

Are you saying the whole thing should be scrapped -- thereby perpetuating Obamacare -- because those two items were retained?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-30   11:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2) (Edited)

Trump's bill kept pre-existing conditions and parental coverage of children under 26 -- two issues popular with the voters and their representatives.

It's Ryan's bill, not Trump's.

Trump just wants a "deal" so he can tweet about it and move on. I don't think Trump knows what is in RyanCare or care what is in it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-30   11:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#3) (Edited)

"It's Ryan's bill, not Trump's. I don't think Trump knows what is is in RyanCare or care what is in it."

So Trump had nothing to do with it? Well, based on his latest tweet, he's going to have something to do with the Freedom Caucus next year.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-30   11:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4)

So Trump had nothing to do with it?

Trump wanted something passed, a "deal" that he can take credit for. He got involved to the extent that he stopped tweeting for a few hours to go down to the House and berate and threaten the brave and wonderful Freedom Caucus.

Trump's done very little if you compare it to 0bama kowtowing to the House and Senate for a year trying to pass 0care.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-30   11:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#5)

"Trump wanted something passed"

No, he wanted to pass The American Health Care Act, a very specific piece of legislation which met the requirements of reconciliation.

"Trump's done very little if you compare it to 0bama kowtowing to the House and Senate for a year trying to pass 0care."

You mean if we compare Trump's 60 days of work to Obama's 365 days of work? Gosh. You're right! Let's drag out Obamacare another 305 days so we can line up your numbers just for you.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-30   11:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

To me, this just looks like a rehash of Price's bill but with a lot of liberal stuff thrown in.

And it was going to go to the Senate where it would become much worse. They've pretty much already promised that.

Then it would come back to the House for a vote to confirm the Senate version, much as 0bamaCare came back to the House for reconciliation after Scott Brown was elected, ruining the Dems' 60-vote majority in the Senate. So the House had to vote for it without any further changes. And they did. And it cost a lot of them (the Blue Dogs of course) their seats. It's always the conservative element in either party that is expected to take one for the team. Never the Lefties or the "moderate Republicans" (liberal Blue state Republicans).

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-30   11:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#7)

"And it was going to go to the Senate where it would become much worse. They've pretty much already promised that."

Right now that seems like light-years away, but yea, that's How a Bill Becomes Law.

"It's always the conservative element in either party that is expected to take one for the team."

Trump's ACHA IS a conservative bill, chock-full of things that conservatives have been after for decades -- block-granting Medicaid to the states, expanded HSA's that are tax deductible, tort reform, insurance across state lines, cafeteria-style health insurance plans.

But it was not conservative enough for the Freedom Caucus. Everything Trump gave them they wanted more. And, Trump was losing moderates in the process.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-30   12:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#8)

And, Trump was losing moderates in the process.

By "moderates" you mean "liberal Republicans". Ever notice how the media loves to separate these out. Unlike you, they know the RINOs are never going to obstruct their agenda.

But, no, we must never upset the precious "moderates".

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-30   12:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#0)

Just heard Rush Limbaugh. He spoke highly of the Freedom Caucus. Rush seemed to think it was good that the Ryan Care Bill got defeated. Apparently Rush thought it was a bad bill.

Sorry, was busy with other matters, and the show was playing in the back ground, so I cannot give better explanation than what I stated above. Also, it sounds like most of the callers, along with Rush seems to side with the Freedom Caucus.

I guess this means Rush will be on Gatlins " I Hate You Shit List ", LOL!

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Stoner  posted on  2017-03-30   14:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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