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Title: Trump's former campaign manager had plan to benefit Putin government
Source: PennLive
URL Source: http://www.pennlive.com/nation-worl ... anager.html#incart_river_index
Published: Mar 22, 2017
Author: Christian Alexandersen
Post Date: 2017-03-22 10:16:22 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 2832
Comments: 33

President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to the Associated Press.

The AP reported Wednesday that Manafort proposed an ambitious political strategy a decade ago to undermine anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics. Manafort's ties to the Russian government were the subject of many questions during the recent U.S. House Intelligence Committee with FBI Director James Comey.

The AP found that Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and the former Soviet republics to benefit the Putin government, even as U.S.-Russia relations under Republican President George W. Bush grew worse.

Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work.

"We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin Government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success," Manafort wrote in the 2005 memo to Deripaska. The effort, Manafort wrote, "will be offering a great service that can re-focus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government."

The AP obtained documents that laid out Manafort's plans, including strategy memoranda and records showing international wire transfers for millions of dollars. How much work Manafort performed under the contract was unclear.

The disclosure comes as Trump campaign advisers are the subject of an FBI probe and two congressional investigations. Investigators are reviewing whether the Trump campaign and its associates coordinated with Moscow to meddle in the 2016 campaign. Manafort has dismissed the investigations as politically motivated and misguided, and said he never worked for Russian interests.

In a statement to the AP, Manafort confirmed that he worked for Deripaska in various countries but said the work was being unfairly cast as "inappropriate or nefarious" as part of a "smear campaign."

"I worked with Oleg Deripaska almost a decade ago representing him on business and personal matters in countries where he had investments," Manafort said. "My work for Mr. Deripaska did not involve representing Russia's political interests."

Manafort worked as Trump's unpaid campaign chairman last year from March until August. Trump asked Manafort to resign after AP revealed that Manafort had orchestrated a covert Washington lobbying operation until 2014 on behalf of Ukraine's ruling pro-Russian political party .

White House spokesman Sean Spicer has said that Manafort "played a very limited role for a very limited amount of time" in the campaign. That claim comes even though Manafort led the presidential campaign during the crucial run-up to the Republican National Convention.


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

Making peace with Russia is, of course, good for Putin. But it is also very, very good for us.

We are a nation hurtling towards insolvency and bankruptcy. We got that way by becoming a world empire after World War II. But our position of pre- eminence has decayed. We no longer can AFFORD to maintain that empire, and even if we could, long experience has taught most of us that there was no BENEFIT of having the empire sufficient to offset the loss of American life, limb and treasure to maintain it.

The people voted for peace with Russia, and alliance with Russia to defeat Islamic terrorism. That is what the people want. Yes, that means that an adversary, a nation that some think is THE enemy, will now be treated as a friend. It means the Russians will "get away" with something we said they would not. It means that Putin will be bolstered. It means that we will not get our way, and that an "enemy" will win a long-standing fight with us, just as Fidel Castro survived and ruled until his death, and his brother still does.

It means that we will, in a sense, back down and lose on a past policy. SO WHAT?

Even if that past policy was "morally right", WE ARE GOING BANKRUPT. Our nation is going to ECONOMICALLY COLLAPSE and we are going to have starvation and lawlessness and shortened lifespans if we continue to pursue the policies of the past. We didn't win, and we need to cut our losses, not blight our future with stubbornness about a past defeat.

Of course there are those absolutely entrenched in those anti-Russian positions, and they can spout great moral arguments. The same was true in the old Soviet Union, determined as they were to continue with the Cold War against the USA, EVEN THOUGH their economy was rusting out from the excess burden of a cold war whose needs outstripped their economy.

We have swapped places with them. We don't HAVE to bankrupt ourselves and our future by continuing a futile Cold War with Russia. What we have to do, FOR OUR OWN SAKE, is to cut our losses, make peace and get on with it. That will massively unburden our economy and put us in a better position to grow back to health.

The French and British really hated each other for 1000 years, but even they figured out that unending buildup for war was just exhausting them both in a world where there were more important threats to face than each other. Even they learned. They had to lose their empires and be bombed flat and invaded, or nearly so, to get it, but they got it. And today, their people are better off on both sides of the Channel for having gotten it.

The American people get it. Trump campaigned on good relations with Russia, and the people voted for that. The people who reject that lost, and now they are trying to criminalize relationships with the Russians. It is not criminal to have business and political ties to Moscow. It has not been criminal since the USSR fell. That's a fact, but the hellbent Cold Warriors, like McCain, act as though it's a criminal offense to make deals with Russia and to try to work on better relations. That is not true. It is no more criminal to have ties to Russia than it is to have ties to Israel, or Britain, or France, or China.

John McCain and his ilk will never accept that. The Democrats are hellbent on impeaching Trump over non-crimes.

But the rest of us need to wake up and note that there is NOTHING WRONG with having business and personal ties to Russia. It isn't illegal. And wanting the US to ally with Russia is what is BEST FOR AMERICA. We elected Trump to do that, and he will do that.

Unfortunately, it looks as though the bitter-enders will have to be investigated, sued, and perhaps prosecuted before the end of it, because they won't go down without a fight. Idiots.

Don't be an idiot like them. Peace and friendship with Russia is very much in America's interests.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-03-22   11:31:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Putin is a criminal. It is NOT in America's best interest to make peace with a criminal.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-03-22   11:53:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#2) (Edited)

Putin is a criminal. It is NOT in America's best interest to make peace with a criminal.

So is the Chinese leadership. So is the Saudi Royal family. So is the leadership of Pakistan, and Turkey. So is every oil despot on the planet.

Name me an uncorrupt African President.

Shall, we, therefore, cut off our allies? No?

For that matter, every person who had sex underage, or ever smoked a joint, or drank underage, or sped, or who cheated at all on his or her taxes is also a criminal.

So what?

It's easy to be a criminal in a world full of laws.

Putin has not been charged by any international tribunal. He's not a criminal in any way that matters.

Good relations with Russia are more important than moral squeamishness. We do not hold foreign leaders to the same standards that we hold people we date, and we shouldn't, because the things at stake are much, much higher. We cannot afford to use foolish excuses such as "Putin is a criminal" to resist doing what is in America's best interests.

Stalin was a mass murdering thug. It was crucial for America that we ally with him, so we did.

Mao Tse Tung was a mass killer also. It was crucial for America's geostrategic position that we nevertheless open to China and put that aside.

Putin's not a criminal. But if he is, so what? Russian-American peace and cooperation are more important than the personal morality of the foreign leader. If Putin is a criminal, it is irrelevant.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-03-22   13:42:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

Shall, we, therefore, cut off our allies? No?

You're barking up the wrong tree, boob...
I don't consider the Chinese, the Saudis, the Pakis, Chad/Gambia/Rwanda/Nigeria/Uganda/Zambia or any country in South or Central America to be our "allies"

The NATO countries are our allies... along with the Aussies, Kiwis, Japs & South Koreans... and the Canadians... and that's about it...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-03-22   15:03:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#5)

The NATO countries are our allies... along with the Aussies, Kiwis, Japs & South Koreans... and the Canadians... and that's about it...

Well you are pretty much correct on this. At least you're not always completely wrong.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-03-22   15:10:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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