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Title: Rand Paul: We Know For Sure Obama Administration Spied On Mike Flynn
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URL Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi ... ation_spied_on_mike_flynn.html
Published: Mar 20, 2017
Author: Tim Hains
Post Date: 2017-03-20 20:42:13 by A K A Stone
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Views: 3739
Comments: 32

On this week's edition of 'This Week With George Stephanopoulos,' Sen. Rand Paul discussed the president's accusation that his campaign was spied on by the Obama administration:

STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, sir, you're also a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. WE see the president standing by that claim about President Obama. It's caused a rift now with British intelligence over the weekend. How big a problem is this for the president's credibility? How does he fix it?

PAUL: I think that we know one thing for sure, that the Obama administration did spy on Flynn. Now, whether it was direct or indirect, somebody was reading and taking -- a transcript of his phone calls and then they released it.

It is very, very important that whoever released that go to jail, because you cannot have members of the intelligence community listening to the most private and highly classified information and then releasing that to The New York Times.

There can only be a certain handful of people who did that. I would bring them all in. They would have to take lie detector tests. And I would say, including the political people, because some political people knew about this as well.

But we need to get to the bottom of who is releasing these highly classified conversations. And if the president was surveilled, he probably wasn't the target. I don't know that he was or wasn't. But if he was, they probably targeted someone in a foreign government, but then they listened to the conversation with Americans.

But our government's talking to foreigners all the time. We can't allow people in the intelligence committee to release the contents of that informing to the media.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you don't believe...

PAUL: You will get a deep state. You will have an intelligence community that has enormous power if that happens.

STEPHANOPOULOS; You don't believe President Obama ordered an illegal wiretap of President Trump?

PAUL: Well, what happens is it's different than that. We target foreigners all the time, but they talk to Americans. They talk to the president. They talk to the national security advisers. And they're supposed to be masked.

But there was something alarming the other day. General Hayden admitted that people all the way down to some of the lowest analysts can unmask who the American is. So, someone unmasked General Flynn and they're a low-level analyst, we need to be looking at their computer and find out if they unmasked that conversation and if they spoke with The New York Times you have got to put those people in jail, because you cannot allow this to happen, or we will have presidents being blackmailed or national security advisers being blackmailed.

This is a huge, huge problem, bigger than anything else that's being discussed is the fact that private conversations from the intelligence community's perspective are being leaked to the press. That's not like a leak that says, oh, the president watches TV in his bathrobe, this is important to national security, you can't let it happen.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Rand is going well out of his way to defend Trump and give him cover in the media.

I think he's trying to stay in Trump's good graces even if Rand is leading the opposition to RyanCare which Trump is backing (so far).

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-20   21:42:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#1)

"even if Rand is leading the opposition to RyanCare"

The House will be voting on Part I, and I've heard that Trump has already made some changes to it.

What in Part I does Rand oppose?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-21   12:37:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite, Gatlin (#10)

What in Part I does Rand oppose?

Well, among other things I expect Rand objects to the whole idea of a Part I and II and III. It sounds like some ring cycle opera and you know those never have a happy ending.

Tom Cotton says the same thing, there will never be a Part II or Part III to TrumpCare. This alone spells its defeat or major modification in the Senate because Cotton/Lee/Cruz/Paul leaves you with a max of 48 votes in the Senate.

Rand is from KY, one of five states where the impact of TrumpCare will hit hardest, especially among those aged 55-65. So you can't expect Rand to take one for the team if he knows his older voters will get the shaft if Part I is the only part of TrumpCare that ever gets passed.

Beyond that, Rand was just re-elected to a 6-year term. So he can play hard to get. Rand has no great confidence that TrumpCare will turn out well and he does know that Trump only has until 2020 to get re-elected and Rand has until 2022. Politics.

Cruz, OTOH, faces the Texas voters in 2018 and has to live down his semi-non-endorsement of Trump at the 2016 GOP convention. Cruz is far more vulnerable, far more likely to cave.

Lee won't be up until 2020, I think. And Cotton just got elected and has, like Rand, until 2022.

And this is before you get to fair-weather GOP senators like Murkowski and Snowe.

I think Trump will get his bill through the House. I'm trying to see how he gets it through the Senate and it looks very very dicey to me.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-21   13:20:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: Tooconservative (#13)

"Tom Cotton says the same thing, there will never be a Part II or Part III to TrumpCare."

Part II consists of regulatory changes and Congress isn't involved. Part II will happen.

Part III requires 60 votes in the Senate. It will be the most difficult, but it has some good things in it that any Senator will be hard- pressed to vote down.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-21 14:34:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#13)

"where the impact of TrumpCare will hit hardest, especially among those aged 55-65."

If those aged 55-65 are forced to buy standard Obamacare-type health insurance and don't have other choices, yeah, they will be hit hardest.

But Part III offers them those choices -- Medical Savings Accounts, buying across state lines, customized plans, group insurance, etc.

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