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Title: Idaho boy injured, family dog killed by government 'cyanide bomb'
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URL Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-bo ... ernment-cyanide-025850761.html
Published: Mar 18, 2017
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2017-03-18 09:19:44 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 1029
Comments: 24

SALMON, Idaho (Reuters) - A "cyanide bomb" planted by U.S. predator-control agents targeting coyotes near homes and hiking trails in Idaho exploded when a boy handled the device, injuring him and killing his dog, authorities and relatives said on Friday.

Canyon Mansfield, 14, was playing with his yellow Labrador retriever, Casey, on Thursday afternoon near his home east of Pocatello when he saw what he thought was a sprinkler head on the ground and touched the device, causing it to detonate.

The explosion sprayed the boy and his 3-year-old, 90-pound (40 kg) pet with toxic cyanide gas, according to the boy's mother, Theresa Mansfield.

“Canyon said there was a bang like a bomb, then an explosion of an orange substance that covered him and Casey, who was writhing in pain on the ground before he died right in front of Canyon,” she said.

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#1. To: misterwhite (#0)

Can you tell us why this kid was a dumb ass and his dog deserved to die?

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-03-18   9:20:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)

"Can you tell us why this kid was a dumb ass and his dog deserved to die?"

From the U.S. Department of Agriculture Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service Wildlife Services:

"Wildlife Services policies and procedures are designed to minimize unintentional take or capture of domestic pets. It posts signs and issues other warnings to alert pet owners when wildlife traps or other devices are being used in an area for wildlife damage management".

" M-44s are spring-activated devices that release cyanide when they are activated through upward pressure or pulling. These devices are only set at the request of and with permission from property owners or managers."

If the signs were posted and the warnings issued and the kid ignored them when he was trespassing on other's property, that makes him a dumb ass. I feel bad for the dog and the fact that he had a dumb ass owner.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-18   11:12:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#3)

If the signs were posted and the warnings issued and the kid ignored them when he was trespassing on other's property, that makes him a dumb ass. I feel bad for the dog and the fact that he had a dumb ass owner.

Exactly.

Of course, if the gas bomb was sited poorly (like 20-30 feet off a sidewalk or motorway), that may be cause for a complaint or even a lawsuit.

"Playing near his home" is too vague a description to have much confidence in.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-18   12:53:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative (#5)

"if the gas bomb was sited poorly (like 20-30 feet off a sidewalk or motorway)"

The details are lacking, as they usually are in these one-sided articles.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-18   13:30:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

The details are lacking, as they usually are in these one-sided articles.

When they were "lacking" you still chose your reflex regurgitation that the person is stupid and the government is god like.

You made up stuff to like trespassing.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-03-18   14:21:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)

"When they were "lacking" you still chose your reflex regurgitation that the person is stupid and the government is god like."

I gave you my reasons.

"You made up stuff to like trespassing."

"Trespassing is the legal term for the situation in which one person enters onto the land of another without permission or the legal right to be there."

He was not on his property. Legally, he was trespassing.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-18   14:55:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone (#8)

He was not on his property. Legally, he was trespassing.

So - anytime you are not on your own property, you are trespassing?

Deckard  posted on  2017-03-18   16:09:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#11)

"So - anytime you are not on your own property, you are trespassing?"

Not if the area is designated for public use. Was he in an area designated for public use? If not, he was trespassing.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-18   16:25:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#12)

I can walk in your grass anytime I want to. Unless you have a clearly visible no trespassing sign on it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-03-18   16:50:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

"I can walk in your grass anytime I want to. Unless you have a clearly visible no trespassing sign on it."

You would be trespassing. But, without a sign, I couldn't bring charges.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-18   17:18:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone (#14)

"I can walk in your grass anytime I want to. Unless you have a clearly visible no trespassing sign on it."

I don’t think you need a No Trespass sign in Idaho, if you …

Post the area with a minimum of one hundred (100) square inches of fluorescent orange, bright orange, blaze orange, safety orange or any similar high visibility shade of orange colored paint except that when metal fence posts are used, a minimum of eighteen (18) inches of the top of the post must be painted a high visibility shade of orange;

I know that is maybe just a technically and the property is still ”POSTED” as such.

But am I correct in that under the conditions of this paragraph, then no sign in required to enforce the No Trespass Law?

Just curious …

IDAHO LAW
TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 70
TRESPASS AND MALICIOUS INJURIES TO PROPERTY

18- 7011.  Criminal trespass — Definition and punishment. (1) Any person who, without consent of the owner or person in charge of any lands which are inclosed [Sic] by fences of any description sufficient to show the boundaries of the land inclosed, shall go upon such lands and shall leave open any gates on or about said premises, or who shall tear down or lay down any fencing, or who shall willfully remove, mutilate, damage or destroy any "No Trespassing" signs or markers, or who shall go through cultivated crops that have not been harvested, or who shall damage any property thereon, or who without permission of the owner or the owner’s agent enters the real property of another person where such real property:
(a)  Is posted with "No Trespassing" signs;
(b)  Is posted with a minimum of one hundred (100) square inches of fluorescent orange, bright orange, blaze orange, safety orange or any similar high visibility shade of orange colored paint except that when metal fence posts are used, a minimum of eighteen (18) inches of the top of the post must be painted a high visibility shade of orange;
(c)  Is posted with other notices of like meaning, spaced at intervals of not less than one (1) sign, paint area or notice per six hundred sixty (660) feet along such real property; provided that where the geographical configuration of the real property is such that entry can reasonably be made only at certain points of access, such property is posted sufficiently for all purposes of this section if said signs, paint or notices are posted at such points of access; or
(d)  Is posted with a conspicuous sign where a public road enters the real property, through which or along which road the public has a right-of-way, stating words substantially similar to "PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO TRESPASSING OFF (fill in relevant compass direction(s)) SIDE OF ROAD NEXT (fill in the distance) MILES," and which is posted with a conspicuous sign where the public road exits the real property stating words substantially similar to "LEAVING PRIVATE PROPERTY." The postings shall be placed on the private real property. In lieu of posting the compass direction(s), a map depicting the area of private property may be displayed on the sign;
is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction thereof shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding six (6) months or by a fine of not less than twenty-five dollars ($25.00) and not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000) or by both such fine and imprisonment.
As used in this subsection and in section 18-7008, Idaho Code: "enters," "entry" and "entering" mean going upon or over real property either in person or by causing any object, substance or force to go upon or over real property.
(2)  No motor vehicle shall be willfully or intentionally driven into, upon, over or through any private land actively devoted to cultivated crops without the consent of the owner of the land or the tenant, lessee or agent of the owner of the land actively devoted to cultivated crops. Violation of the provisions of this section shall be a misdemeanor. For the purpose of this subsection, motor vehicle shall be defined as set forth in sections 49-114 and 49- 123, Idaho Code. Land actively devoted to cultivated crops shall be defined as land that is used to produce field crops including, but not limited to, grains, feed crops, legumes, fruits and vegetables.
History:
[18-7011, added 1972, ch. 336, sec. 1, p. 975; am. 1976, ch. 154, sec. 2, p. 551; am. 1984, ch. 37, sec. 1, p. 63; am. 1984, ch. 55, sec. 2, p. 95; am. 1988, ch. 265, sec. 561, p. 857; am. 2005, ch. 359, sec. 12, p. 1139; am. 2014, ch. 28, sec. 2, p. 40.]

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-18   18:24:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: Gatlin (#18)

I'm saying that even without a sign, trespassing is still possible. It's just that without a sign (or other indicators) it's unlikely you'd get a conviction for trespassing.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-18 18:35:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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