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Title: Trump to spare U.S. 'dreamer' immigrants from crackdown (Amnesty)
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-u ... migration-border-idUSKBN1601XE
Published: Feb 24, 2017
Author: Julia Edwards Ainsley
Post Date: 2017-02-24 16:16:46 by Hondo68
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Keywords: executive orders that, Trump signed on Jan. 25, DACA protects dream illegals
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U.S. President Donald Trump announces his new National Security Adviser will be Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida U.S. February 20, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

U.S. President Donald Trump announces his new National Security Adviser will be Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida U.S. February 20, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

WASHINGTON President Donald Trump's administration plans to consider almost all illegal immigrants subject to deportation, but will leave protections in place for immigrants known as "dreamers" who entered the United States illegally as children, according to official guidelines released on Tuesday.

The Department of Homeland Security guidance to immigration agents is part of a broader border security and immigration enforcement plan in executive orders that Republican Trump signed on Jan. 25.

Former President Barack Obama, a Democrat, issued an executive order in 2012 that protected 750,000 immigrants who had been brought into the United States illegally by their parents. Trump has said the issue is "very difficult" for him.

Trump campaigned on a pledge to get tougher on the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States, playing on fears of violent crime while promising to build a wall on the border with Mexico and to stop potential terrorists from entering the country.

Trump's planned measures against illegal immigrants have drawn protests, such as an event last week that activists called "A Day Without Immigrants" to highlight the importance of foreign-born people, who account for 13 percent of the U.S. population, or more than 40 million naturalized American citizens.

A banner declaring "Refugees Welcome" was posted on the base of the Statue of Liberty, a symbol of American acceptance of immigrants, before park rangers removed it on Tuesday, WABC television reported.

DHS officials, on a conference call with reporters, said that although any immigrant in the country illegally could be deported, the agency will prioritize those deemed a threat.

These include recent entrants, those convicted of a crime and people charged but not convicted of a crime. Some details of the guidelines were detailed in a draft memo seen on Saturday.

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Many of the instructions will not be implemented immediately because they depend on Congress, a public comment period or negotiations with other nations, the officials said. Mexican immigration officials immediately objected to part of the new rules.

The guidance also calls for the hiring of 10,000 more U.S. Immigration and Customs (ICE) agents and 5,000 more U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents.

The DHS will need to publish a notice in the Federal Register subject to review in order to implement one part of the plan that calls on ICE agents to increase the number of immigrants who are not given a hearing before being deported.

The new rules would subject immigrants who cannot show they have been in the country for more than two years to "expedited removal." Currently, only migrants apprehended near a U.S. border who cannot show they have been in the country more than 14 days are subject to rapid removal.

The memos also instruct ICE to detain migrants who are awaiting a court decision on whether they will be deported or granted relief, such as asylum. DHS officials said they are reviewing what jurisdictions may have laws in place that prevent the amount of time immigrants can be held.

The agency also plans to send non-Mexican migrants crossing the southern U.S. border back into Mexico as they await a decision on their case. The DHS officials said this plan would be dependent on partnerships with the Mexican government and would not be implemented overnight.

The guidelines were released a day before U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly were due in Mexico City for talks with President Enrique Pena Nieto and Mexican officials.

An official from Mexico's Foreign Ministry said the government would tell Kelly's team to that it was "impossible" for Mexico to accept deportees or asylum applicants from foreign countries, and would ask them to explain their plan.

The deportation of Mexicans would be one of the government's major concerns at the meeting, said the official, who declined to be named.

A spokeswoman from the Foreign Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

(Reporting by Julia Edwards Ainsley in Washington; Additional reporting by Anahi Rama and Gabriel Stargardter in Mexico City and Dan Trotta in New York; Editing by Grant McCool and Leslie Adler)


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The Donald is protecting Obama's DACA* illegal alien "Dream Students" by giving them nationwide sanctuary.

Trump has turned the USA into one huge juvenile delinquent illegal alien sanctuary.

*DACA = Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival (1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Right now they're not a priority. They may be later on.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-02-24   16:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1)

Right now they're not a priority.

These "Dream Stucents" range up to age 31.

Better check if your car still has wheels and a battery? Is the car even there?


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-02-24   16:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

"Better check if your car still has wheels and a battery?"

Criminal illegals ARE a priority for deportation, DREAMer or not.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-02-24   17:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0)

The Donald is protecting Obama's DACA* illegal alien "Dream Students" by giving them nationwide sanctuary.

If I were president,I would do the same. Reluctantly,but I'd do it. It was not THEIR fault they were brought here as children or born here,but here they are. I have personally known and worked with some of them that couldn't even speak Spanish because it was forbidden to speak anything but English in their houses. Do you seriously want these people sent "back" to somewhere they have never been that is a foreign country to them and they don't speak or understand the language?

Having said that,there MUST me some conditions,

1: ANY of them found to be sheltering illegals lose their protected status,and are to be immediately deported to the country their parents came from.

2: If we "give" something,we should "get" something. That "something should be "NO MORE ANCHOR BABIES,NO MORE INSTANT CITIZENSHIP'S!"

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-24   19:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#0)

Title: Trump to spare U.S. 'dreamer' immigrants from crackdown (Amnesty)

They'll get deported if they commit crimes or use significant welfare. Trump did not exempt them from that as cause for deportation.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-02-24   19:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#4)

Do you seriously want these people sent "back" to somewhere they have never been that is a foreign country to them and they don't speak or understand the language?

Yes definitely. 100 percent of them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-24   20:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#4)

If I were president,I would do the same. Reluctantly,but I'd do it.

Yeah. Me too. He's not breaking a campaign pledge either. He always said he was going to start with criminals, and when this subject came up, he always said that he "had a heart" - I knew that meant that he wouldn't actually deport these people, and because I wouldn't either, I was glad he said that.

Deport the criminals, deport the ones pouring across the border, deport the adults. If you leave the "Dreamers" it's not going to upend the country. There are less than a million of them.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-24   21:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#6)

The numbers of the Reagan Amnesty increased 13 X as of 2002 because of "Chain Migration". It just keeps increasing at a faster pace over time.

The two BIG issues:
1) Birthright Citizenship
2) Chain Migration

Until those are resolved --Send them and their illegal alien relatives home, so that they can be reunited with their Grandparents, Cousins, and family in their homeland. IMO the Democrat and Republican party will NEVER fix these issues, so deportation is the only option.

Hasta la Vista, Baby!



Chain Migration

"The United States has been engulfed by what seems likely to be the greatest wave of immigration it has ever faced....The extraordinary truth is that, in almost all cases, Americans will have little...to say over the arrival of these new claimants on their national community[.] U.S. law in effect treats immigration as a sort of imitation civil right, extended to an indefinite group of foreigners who have been selected arbitrarily and with no regard to American interests."
-Peter Brimelow, Alien Nation, 1995.

In 2001, the United States admitted 1,064,318 immigrants--enough people to create a major city the size of Chicago. Why is immigration so high? One of the reasons is chain migration. In chain migration, one immigrant sponsors several other immigrants for admission, who then sponsor several others themselves, and so on. Naturally, chain migration drives immigration numbers up; annual immigration has tripled since chain migration began in the mid-1960s and has led to additional millions consigned to visa waiting lists.

Chain migration happens because present U.S. immigration policy is based on the principle of broadly defined family reunification; immigrants are able to sponsor their relatives back home to be admitted as immigrants here.1 In other words, most immigrants are admitted simply because they have a relative here who sponsors them, not because of what they might be able to contribute to our society.

Because of the chain reaction described above, immigration numbers continue to rise. Under the "immediate relatives" category, the parents, spouse, and children of a U.S. citizen are admitted without limit. Therefore, once the law was changed in 1965 to create the so-called family reunification system, chain migration caused the numbers in this category to steadily rise. Five years after chain migration began, the number of immediate relative admissions had nearly doubled (from 32,714 in 1965 to 79,213 in 1970); ten years after, it had almost tripled (to 91,504 in 1975); 15 years after, it was nearly five times higher (151,131 in 1980); 20 years after, it was nearly six times higher (204,368 in 1985); 25 years after, it was seven times higher (231,680 in 1990); less than 30 years after, it was eight times higher (249,764 in 1994); and in 2001, 36 years later, the number of immediate relatives admitted 443,964-over 13 times higher.

Since most immigration categories have a limit to the number of people who can be admitted each year, immigrants' relatives back home must often wait for years to be admitted. Because of chain migration, over three million aliens have been told they are eligible to immigrate but have to wait. Many of them do not, figuring that, since they are eligible anyway, they should not have to wait for the U.S. government to get around to doing the paperwork. In this way, chain migration-and the expectations and long lines it produces-increases illegal immigration.

The problem will get worse. The illegal aliens given amnesty by Congress in 1986 are now fueling naturalization in record numbers. As these former illegal aliens become citizens, all of their immediate relatives qualify to come immediately to the United States, and start new migration chains of their own.

The U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform (USCIR) studied the issue of chain migration and proposed limiting family-sponsored immigration to only the spouse and minor children of a U.S. citizen or a legal permanent resident (LPR) and the parents of a U.S. citizen (as long as they are supported by the sponsor)-with a ceiling of 400,000 per year. This compares with family-sponsored immigration in 2001 of 676,107 people. What would be cut would be visas for siblings of U.S. citizens and adult sons and daughters of both U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents (LPRs).

Unfortunately, Congress has not yet acted to eliminate either the immigrant backlog, nor, more importantly, the system of chain migration that causes it. Ignoring the recommendations by the bipartisan USCIR that would have begun to rationalize the system, Congress has failed to fix the soaring levels of immigration which it created (inadvertently, according to some of its sponsors).

relative admission chart



[1] Four of the five admissions categories for family immigration are reserved for U.S. citizens. This means that immigrants must become naturalized citizens to be able to sponsor relatives in those categories. An immigrant is eligible for naturalization five years after being admitted as a legal permanent immigrant (three years for the spouse of a U.S. citizen).

Updated 10/02


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-02-24   21:58:39 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#0)

Trump has turned the USA into one huge juvenile delinquent illegal alien sanctuary.

That's where he's going with it. And the parents of dreamers will be amnestied also. Obama and Hillery have won.

rlk  posted on  2017-02-24   22:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#8)

The two BIG issues: 1) Birthright Citizenship 2) Chain Migration

I agree,and both have to end.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-24   23:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rlk (#9)

And the parents of dreamers will be amnestied also.

Says who?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-24   23:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#4)

Do you seriously want these people sent "back" to somewhere they have never been that is a foreign country to them and they don't speak or understand the language?

This is code for.... I'm a bleeding heart WEAK LIBTARD that constantly plays on the heartstrings of the pussified SHEEPLE.

Fuck the illegals and the donkey they rode in on. DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-25   0:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#12)

This is code for...

If it were code for anything you would be too stupid to understand it,so quit pretending.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-25   9:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#13) (Edited)

Come on, Peter Puffer... admit it. Your post (number 4) has over sensitivity and sympathy written all over it. I'm relatively sure you shed a tear for these non American 3rd world turds "being sent somewhere not understanding the language". Those smelly fucking illegal assholes that your libtarded heart bleeds over have no problem sneaking in my country and squat for 5 years and still not understand English... and they don't have a problem with that. You libs are too stupid to know that mankind will ALWAYS TAKE YOUR SYMPATHY FOR WEAKNESS.

Suck it up, pussified boy.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-25   9:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#6)

"Do you seriously want these people sent "back" to somewhere they have never been that is a foreign country to them and they don't speak or understand the language?"

That's pretty funny.

After all, didn't they "come" somewhere they have never been that is a foreign country to them and they don't speak or understand the language?

Somehow, that's OK. But sending them back under the exact same circumstances isn't.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-02-25   9:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: misterwhite (#15) (Edited)

After all, didn't they "come" somewhere they have never been that is a foreign country to them and they don't speak or understand the language?

That's the common sense that progressive liberalness indoctrinates the populace to NOT RECOGNIZE... by clouding their reasoning process with SYMPATHY and EMPATHY by making the sheeple over sensitized and pussified.

STINKY PETER PUFF has been indoctrinated into said weakness... no surprise. Most of the populace feels so sorry for everything now that we pass the blame, justify dysfunctional acts and lifestyles... Hell, the sheeple have even been convinced that being addicted to meth is a DISEASE. Next thing you know, Stinky Peter Puffer will tell you that the 40% of his family's faggots cant prevent themselves from slobbing the knob.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-25   11:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: GrandIsland (#16)

That's the common sense that progressive liberalness indoctrinates the populace to NOT RECOGNIZE... by clouding their reasoning process with SYMPATHY and EMPATHY by making the sheeple over sensitized and pussified.

That is one key issue. We've become a society of whining kids lighting candles at sympathic vigils instead of facing and correcting problems.

rlk  posted on  2017-02-25   12:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#15) (Edited)

After all, didn't they "come" somewhere they have never been that is a foreign country to them and they don't speak or understand the language?

Somehow, that's OK. But sending them back under the exact same circumstances isn't.

I'm not interested in their problems. The question is, will it cure our problem and the issue of invasion by incompatables. If it does, do it!

rlk  posted on  2017-02-25   12:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#0)

Do you not get Trump yet?

This is a negotiation ploy. Everyone agrees with limited but harsh deportation of some and before long everyone is being deported later after he renegotiation when all of the bad ones have been deported and the border is secure. Basically once he gets his way on these issues he does what demoncrats do in moving the bar again after he has gotten his way.

Am I the only one that gets Trump and his ways? ;

Justified  posted on  2017-02-25   12:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#11) (Edited)

And the parents of dreamers will be amnestied also.

Says who?

In case you are incapable of seeing ahead. It's a two step argument. The second step after having complied with the fist step is to be hit with the argument that you are advocating the breaking up of families. The second step leads to chain migration invasion.

The trick in successful invasion is to bring a kid along, or have one as soon as possible, then relable the kid a dreamer. If you don't have a kid, then borrow somebody else's kid long enough to make the argument. They all look alike and can be passed around anyway.

rlk  posted on  2017-02-25   13:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: GrandIsland (#14)

If I wanted to see any shit from you,I'd squeeze your head.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-25   15:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: misterwhite (#15)

After all, didn't they "come" somewhere they have never been that is a foreign country to them and they don't speak or understand the language?

Is English your third language?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-25   15:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: rlk (#20)

And the parents of dreamers will be amnestied also.

Says who?

In case you are incapable of seeing ahead.

I had to send my crystal ball back to the factory for adjustments.

What I KNOW is the parents willingly and knowingly violated our laws by coming here illegally. The small children they brought with them had no say in the matter,and had no idea what "law" even was.

What many of them know for a fact is they know nothing about life in Mexico and other central and south American countries,and a lot of them don't even speak Spanish.

Are we now to the point where we blame and punish minor children for the crimes of their parents?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-25   15:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: hondo68 (#0)

yada yada yada, friggin open border dem hondope posts this nonsense,

calcon  posted on  2017-02-25   15:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#23)

a lot of them don't even speak Spanish.

How sure are you?

rlk  posted on  2017-02-25   17:05:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: rlk (#25)

a lot of them don't even speak Spanish.

How sure are you?

Positive. I lived in a Mexican neighborhood in Denver back in the mid-70's,and there were a lot of young people there that didn't speak Spanish. Their parents spoke both Spanish and English,but not them.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-25   18:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#21)

I'd squeeze your head

You couldn't accomplish that task if you had a cane, geriatric diapers and 5 of the toughest grandpa's you hang with.

F' ck off, you ancient almost dead pile of faggot patriarch pussified and aged shit.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-25   19:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GrandIsland (#27)

You couldn't accomplish that task if you had a cane, geriatric diapers and 5 of the toughest grandpa's you hang with.

F' ck off, you ancient almost dead pile of faggot patriarch pussified and aged shit.

You keep telling yourself that if that's what it takes for you to build up enough courage to go grocery shopping in the daytime.

You're not fooling anybody,though. You are just a big-mouthed punk.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-25   19:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#27)

You couldn't accomplish that task if you had a cane, geriatric diapers and 5 of the toughest grandpa's you hang with.

F' ck off, you ancient almost dead pile of faggot patriarch pussified and aged shit.

That really isn't the purpose of the forum.

No wonder some people don't like you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-25   19:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#29)

Stinky Peter Puffer ~ If I wanted to see any shit from you,I'd squeeze your head.

And the purpose of the forum was the above stated Stinky Pete comment he made to me, BEFORE, the comment you quickly brought to my attention that I made?

Consistency?

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-25   19:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: GrandIsland, whiney biatch (#30)

above stated Stinky Pete comment he made to me, BEFORE, the comment you quickly b[lah, blah, boo hoo, waaa, aaaa, mommyyyyy!]

Suck it up biatch, it isn't a competition to determine who's the biggest ahole, but you WIN!

WAAAAAAH !!!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-02-25   20:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#26)

I lived in a Mexican neighborhood in Denver back in the mid-70's,and there were a lot of young people there that didn't speak Spanish. Their parents spoke both Spanish and English,but not them.

Were they dreamers?

rlk  posted on  2017-02-25   20:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: rlk (#32)

I lived in a Mexican neighborhood in Denver back in the mid-70's,and there were a lot of young people there that didn't speak Spanish. Their parents spoke both Spanish and English,but not them.

Were they dreamers?

They were just people,living their lives and going to work,just like everybody else.

The term "Dreamers" hadn't been coined yet.

Given they were born in America,even if their parents weren't,they were American citizens.

BTW,I am opposed to instant citizenship due to birth. It is against the law to profit from the commission of a crime,and that is PRECISELY what happens when you award instant citizenship to the child of parents who are here illegally.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-25   21:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: GrandIsland (#30)

Consistency?

You have the consistency of a warm turd.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2017-02-25   21:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#34)

You have the mentality of a Jane Fonda being squeezed out KILLarys crusty dirt hole

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-25   23:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#23) (Edited)

Are we now to the point where we blame and punish minor children for the crimes of their parents?

No, we are at the point where we are being forced to accept kids, complete with their arguments for reconquista and la raza because of the crimes of their parents. And you can throw a few million islamics advocating sharia on top of that. We'll give them the romantic label of dreamers also. Hell, let's call everybody a dreamer.

rlk  posted on  2017-02-26   2:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: rlk (#36)

Are we now to the point where we blame and punish minor children for the crimes of their parents?

No, we are at the point where we are being forced to accept kids, complete with their arguments for reconquista and la raza because of the crimes of their parents.

WHO is making rlk accept Reconquista and La Raza?

You are getting hysterical,Robert. Adherence to either would automatically disqualify anyone from being awarded US citizenship,and is grounds for deportation.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-26   8:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: sneakypete (#37)

You are getting hysterical,Robert. Adherence to either would automatically disqualify anyone from being awarded US citizenship,and is grounds for deportation.

Not if they are dreamers. Apparently you don't watch, listen to, or read the news.

rlk  posted on  2017-02-26   11:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: hondo68 (#8)

Great post on chain migration. We don't hear enough about it in recent years.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-02-26   12:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#37)

WHO is making rlk accept Reconquista and La Raza?

You are getting hysterical,Robert. Adherence to either would automatically disqualify anyone from being awarded US citizenship,and is grounds for deportation.

Read the post here entitled (Univision’s Jorge Ramos Tells Latinos America Is “Our Country, Not Theirs”)

If that is not permission to recover argued rightfully owned territory, nothing is. What is being discussed is thinly disguised invasion and submission of the white race. If you can't see that you are too stupid to deal with,

rlk  posted on  2017-02-26   19:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: rlk (#38)

Not if they are dreamers. Apparently you don't watch, listen to, or read the news.

YOU are the one not paying attention. The so-called "Dreamers" are the ones where were brought here as small children by their illegal alien parents. For all they know,America is the only place they have ever lived.

On top of that,they aren't American citizens because they weren't born here,and they aren't being handed citizenship in this program. The program just allows them to remain here as legal aliens and to apply for citizenship.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-26   19:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: rlk (#40)

Read the post here entitled (Univision’s Jorge Ramos Tells Latinos America Is “Our Country, Not Theirs”)

Who died and made Ramos "Master of the Universe"?

If that is not permission to recover argued rightfully owned territory, nothing is.

I wasn't aware that Ramos was in a position to give illegals property or citizenship.

Was he elected President while I was napping last night?

AND,,,,,,,I know this is going to be a challenge for you,Ramos was addressing illegal aliens hiding out here as well as people still in Mexico,NOT the people being called "dreamers".

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-26   19:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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