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Title: Liberty's Flame Question of the day.
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Published: Feb 15, 2017
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2017-02-15 19:06:58 by A K A Stone
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Views: 381
Comments: 9

We'll keep the question simple

There is a law that says you must behave a certain way.

That law is clearly immoral.

You can easily do the moral thing with no chance of any consequences whatsoever.

What do you do obey the law or your conscience?


Poster Comment: I obey my conscience.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I obey my conscience.

Now I will flip that around: there is a law that says you must behave a certain way. The law is well- intended, but inconvenient in various annoying ways. You can easily do the illegal thing with no chance of any consequence whatsoever.

What do you do, obey the law or do what you think is most expedient?

Poster Comment: I do what I think is most expedient.

Law is nothing more than the opinion of the legislator. If I agree completely with the legislator, then I am not obeying the law when I do what I was going to do anyway.

If I disagree with the legislator, then the sole question is whether or not there is a sufficient enforcement mechanism to cause me to take the legislator's opinion into consideration while living my life. As the threat and likelihood of punishment increase, the likelihood that I will bend my own will to fit his increases, as I do a sort of cost-benefit analysis of my actions.

At no point do I think that the legislator has the power to set morality simply by setting law.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-15   20:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

I'll obey my conscience too... but I won't stay and willingly fund the state the ability to defend the immoral law, legal defense fees, in the form of TAXES.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-15   20:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GrandIsland (#2)

I'll obey my conscience too... but I won't stay and willingly fund the state the ability to defend the immoral law, legal defense fees, in the form of TAXES.

Just out of curiosity,where do you think the money to pay your pension comes from,goober?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-15   23:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3) (Edited)

Just out of curiosity,where do you think the money to pay your pension comes from,goober?

A privately owned (and never robbed from) mutual fund, dip shit. And if you research the NYS retirement fund, you'll see it's HEALTHY... and supports 100% all pension payouts... buy incoming OFFICER contributions and mutual fund investments.... not taxes. The fund is so healthy and rich, that faggot Libtard scumbag Cuomo would love to STEAL from it... just like every state has done that's in the RED with their retirement system.

Pensions, if done property, and never stole from to balance libtard budget spending, are excellent things.

I paid into that fund for 10 years, asshole. My municipality didn't pay a dime of my contributions... I PAID IT ALL... and now, the rookies contribute the whole time they work to keep the fund healthy.

So shut you shat flap.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-16   2:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I obey my conscience.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-02-16   6:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"That law is clearly immoral."

I have no idea what that means. Killing is immoral, yet we execute certain felons. What do you mean by that, or do you have an example?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-02-16   9:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

I have no idea what that means. Killing is immoral, yet we execute certain felons. What do you mean by that, or do you have an example?

No examples just a theoretical one at the moment.

Killing a murderer is not the same as murder.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-16   10:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)

"No examples just a theoretical one at the moment."

Then no response at the moment. Sorry.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-02-16   10:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: GrandIsland (#4)

I paid into that fund for 10 years, asshole.

And now you get full retirement and benefits?

It's not going to stay flush long with slackers like you dipping into it for full retirement.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-16   10:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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