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Title: Fire Chief Arrested For Preventing A Cop From Making A Fire Worse — House Burns as a Result
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Free Thought Project/Law Officer/WEHT-7
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fi ... ire-worse/#fDjgLsEhyEPwAcyC.99
Published: Dec 30, 2016
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2016-12-30 19:39:35 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 16637
Comments: 140
Cannelton, IN – Volunteer Fire Chief Christopher Herzog was recently arrested for attempting to prevent a police officer from making a fire worse. However, the police version of the story makes it sound like Herzog was some crazed assailant attacking heroes. Now, the firefighter is facing a felony. When kindergartners are taught to “stop drop and roll,” they are also taught that fire feeds on oxygen and that sometimes a suddenly opened door or window could cause a fire. Unfortunately, Cannelton police officer Ryen Foertsch did not get the memo. Foertsch was at the location of the fire and in plain clothes, not dressed as an officer and was attempting to smash in one of the windows of the house, a move that could have obviously made the fire far worse. Herzog arrived on the scene to witness the blunder, and attempted to prevent the officer from literally adding fuel to the fire, and tried to get him away from the house. Sensing that his authority was being threatened, Foertsch arrested the fire chief as the house continued to burn. To make matters worse, as the house burned, the police ordered the remaining fire crew off of the property, preventing them from doing their jobs and putting lives and property at risk. Officer Foertsch claims that Herzog was shouting obscenities at him and shoving him. However, Herzog says that he was simply attempted to diffuse a dangerous situation, and even if he was shouting at the officer, he had every right to considering the circumstances. Chris Zukeschwerdt, the man who owns the house that was burning, was horrified by the encounter that he witnessed. “I was in shock. When I saw the faces of those firefighters – to see their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire was just unreal,” Zukeschwerdt said. Zukeschwerdt said that he heard the chief yell to the other firefighters to stay and make sure the fire was put out, as he was dragged away in handcuffs. However, he says that next the police officers took over the scene and ordered the firefighters to leave. “We’re in charge of this scene now,” Zukeschwerdt says he heard an officer say. Zukeschwerdt said at that point, “a lot of the fire department guys started saying let’s grab out gear and go.” Sadly, after the chief was arrested and the other firefighters sent away, the police officers did nothing and allowed the fire to completely destroy the house. Herzog was taken into custody and lodged in the Perry County Jail on a charge of battery against a public safety official, a level 6 felony. Soon after the arrest, Herzog was bailed out of jail by Cannelton Mayor Mary Snyder. It is important to note that the National Incident Management System, which sets national standards for first responders in emergencies such as this, states that the first fire unit arriving on the scene of a house fire are the ones to take command of the incident, which means that Herzog was within his rights to take charge of the situation when he arrived on the scene. It seems that officer Foertsch was more concerned with his own ego and perceived authority than he was with saving lives, which is a dangerous consequence of giving a person unlimited power.
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#100. To: Deckard (#88)
Eyewitness reports are notoriously unreliable. Don’t believe that…then check these links out.
In the case with Deckard...like swatting a pesky gnat.
You've convinced me that the eyewitness cops are clueless. Matt Agorist from the Free Thought Project takes a more balanced view, collects observations from a number of eyewitnesses, as well as newscrews covering the event. Plus, he's not a CT freak like you! Your attempts to parse the homeowners comments are ridiculous. There are no contradictions, k0oK! The D&R Party is a suicide cult!
Then a couple line down in the article, said: “They pulled the fire chief out while the fire was still smoldering.” Seriously? That's all you got? There is NO discrepancy in those two statements. A smoldering fire IS STILL a fire. Non sequitur….trying to change the dynamics of this story and deflect. I merely pointed out that this kind of behavior has been displayed in the past by cops who stopped firemen from doing their jobs. Do you believe that the charges should be dropped? Prosecuting a heroic firefighter doing his job controlling the scene and pushing a cop out of the way does not do anyone any good. Lives and property will be at risk due to the animosity between the cops and firefighters which will be exacerbated by a felony conviction against the Chief. I'm sure we can all admit that this situation could have been avoided if the cop would have checked his ego at the door and allowed the firefighters to do their jobs. The part where the crowd was chanting P-D SUCKS!!! was highly entertaining.
I remember seeing a clip after 9/11 in NYC during the extended cleanup it was deemed that NYFD was burning up way too many overtime hours. I think the mayor called off the operation after X weeks. The firefighters didn't want to quit their efforts. NYPD had to arrest some of them to get them off the site. I saw it once on live TV and never again - not that I did a thorough search for it or anything.
Nice selfie kook.
I merely pointed out ... Which was a complete waste, since it had no relationship to the volunteer fire chief blowing up and losing his tempter to physically attack a law enforcement officer and then be arrested for a Class 6 Felony. Please try to stay on topic….I realize it must be hard for you to do so.
Do you believe that the charges should be dropped? Prosecuting a heroic firefighter doing his job controlling the scene and pushing a cop out of the way does not do anyone any good. Lives and property will be at risk due to the animosity between the cops and firefighters which will be exacerbated by a felony conviction against the Chief. I'm sure we can all admit that this situation could have been avoided if the cop would have checked his ego at the door and allowed the firefighters to do their jobs. The nincompoop publically displayed that he is a high tempered hot head who acts irrationally and irresponsibly which makes him mentally incapable to continue acting in his capacity as volunteer fire chief.
The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job saving lives and property when an ego-centric police officer decided to flex his authoritah and proclaim that HE was now the boss at the scene. A simple fact that even you should be able to grasp. As far as apologies, both sides should apologize and end the ongoing animosity that will threaten the lives and property of the town's citizens. ... both sides should apologize ... It was not his job to lose his temper and attack the policeman. The policeman has nothing to apologize for.
Nope
Nope! This is a house fire: This is a house that was on fire and is now smoldering: There is a BIG difference. The point that being made by Zukeschwerdt was the relativity….the active burning had finished.
I've done it. That's what happens when they drive to the scene intoxicated. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I hate to step on your toes, tater, but where there is smoke, there is fire.
I've done it. That's what happens when they drive to the scene intoxicated. That was a strikingly amusing remark….quite a beautiful ZINGER.
I've done it. That's what happens when they drive to the scene intoxicated. Driving while intoxicated is NOT within the parameters of "doing his job", and there is no evidence here to indicate that Chief Herzog was intoxicated. I can see that happening with volunteer fire departments - guy is in a bar or at home having a couple of beers, gets the call and rushes to the scene. In that situation, maybe you cut the guy a break and drive him to the fire, depending on his level of intoxication, the severity of the fire and whether his presence was vital to the firefighting effort. You can always haul him in afterwards. Oh, so you post two pictures, from two different fires that have nothing to do with the fire in Indiana, and somehow believe you have made a case for your contention? Okey dokey. Sometimes the simplest concepts are the most difficult for him to understand. ... both sides should apologize ... It was not his job to lose his temper and attack the policeman. It God damned well was if the cop, to show his ass, was trying to prevent him from doing his job of putting out the fire. The cop, along with those making excuses for him, should have been sentenced to replace the owner's home.
It is in the video on this site with the article. Here it is again since you are to dumb to find it on your own.
You're pathetic. ar·ti·cle
A K A Stone posted on 2016-12-31 Like I said reading comprehension problems.
Moving the goalpost. Again. Craven.
Shut up already. Man up and admit you wasn't paying attention. The video is part of the article. It was always there. I just mentioned "you obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article." Have a nice new year.
You lied. You got busted. Dry your craven tears.
Very true, LOL !!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907. I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
Robert, I suspect the property owners insurance company's lawyers, and a jury, will have the final say in this matter. Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907. I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur
The video was there all along. You are really boring me and wasting my time. Maybe it is time to flush you down the toilet.
Craven bitch.
Yeah i'm a bitch because you have a reading comprehension problem. Got ya.
Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly. I hope you enjoyed your beating.
That is one definition. There are many. One includes videos. A video article. You're just playing semantics. Point is you didn't watch the video which was included with the article, and being included with it is part of the article. So you were wrong when you said there was no mention of police looking for people to help. I'm done talking to you about this. Have a nice new year.
And make this place go from dead to deader.
And make this place go from dead to deader. You drug addict loving agenda posters make the site only pleasant for you... because all you liberal assholes always gotta act like Ferguson zoo animals when you don't get your way or your liberal hero (or whore) isn't elected. The intolerance and anarchist behavior stems from the AGENDA posters.... you assholes stunk up FR, then you shit all over LP... and now you have this fucking place only enjoyable if you love drug addicts, faggots... and you hate cops and the rich. You filthy assholes have always been one great big smelly hippie OCCUPY type cult. All fucking 6% of you. It ain't Stones fault. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Fuck off, PAULTARD. You are the biggest reason LP was a ghost town full of PAULTARDs only and LF doesn't attract NORMAL garden variety posters for debate or discussion.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Oh yeah - he [Zukeschwerdt] must be lying, right?
#101. To: Roscoe (#95)
This is more like swatting flies.
#102. To: Gatlin (#100)
Eyewitness reports are notoriously unreliable.
#103. To: Gatlin (#96)
First, said: “… their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire.”
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#104. To: Gatlin (#97)
Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#105. To: Gatlin (#99)
The Indiana State Police believed it was a Level 6 Felony, when the independently investigated the incident and charged the volunteer fire chief….and of course that is the belief that mattered
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#106. To: Fred Mertz (#94)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#107. To: Deckard (#106)
#108. To: Deckard (#106)
#109. To: Vinny (#108)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#110. To: Deckard (#104)
#111. To: Gatlin (#110)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#112. To: Deckard (#105)
Do you believe that the charges should be dropped?
If he were to make a public apology for physically attacking the police officer and immediately resigned as the volunteer fire chief….i may then consider that.
#113. To: Gatlin (#112)
The nincompoop publically displayed that he is a high tempered hot head
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#114. To: Deckard (#113)
The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job ...
#115. To: Deckard (#113)
The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job
#116. To: Deckard (#103)
A smoldering fire IS STILL a fire.
#117. To: Deckard (#90)
Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.
#118. To: Gatlin (#116)
#119. To: GrandIsland, Deckard, Vinny, Roscoe (#117)
(Edited)
Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.
#120. To: GrandIsland (#117)
(Edited)
Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#121. To: Gatlin (#116)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#122. To: buckeroo (#118)
I hate to step on your toes, tater, but where there is smoke, there is fire
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#123. To: Gatlin (#114)
The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job ...
#124. To: Roscoe (#33)
The article he posted did not mention it. The article he linked to did not mention it. Now. like a craven bitch, you whine that the article linked to an article that linked to a video, and pretend you've made a point. You didn't.
#125. To: A K A Stone (#124)
It is in the video
noun
a piece of writing included with others in a newspaper, magazine, or other publication.
#126. To: Roscoe (#125)
You obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article.
#127. To: A K A Stone (#126)
"Look you fucking dumb ass. You said the article didn't say anything about an officer looking for possible victims."
#128. To: Roscoe (#127)
You obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article. A K A Stone posted on 2016-12-31
#129. To: A K A Stone (#128)
The video is part of the article.
#130. To: Deckard (#122)
#131. To: rlk (#123)
" the cop, to show his ass, was trying to prevent him from doing his job of putting out the fire. The cop, along with those making excuses for him, should have been sentenced to replace the owner's home. "
#132. To: Roscoe (#129)
The video is part of the article. You lied. You got busted. Dry your craven tears.
#133. To: A K A Stone (#132)
Maybe it is time to flush you down the toilet.
#134. To: Roscoe (#133)
#135. To: A K A Stone (#134)
you have a reading comprehension problem.
ar·ti·cle
noun
a piece of writing included with others in a newspaper, magazine, or other publication.
#136. To: Roscoe (#135)
#137. To: A K A Stone (#132)
Maybe it is time to flush you down the toilet.
#138. To: Fred Mertz (#137)
#139. To: GrandIsland (#138)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#140. To: Deckard (#139)
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