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Title: 'They don't give a f*** if I die out here in this cold weather': Denver police forced to defend officers after they were filmed taking blankets from homeless people on a freezing night
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... -blankets-homeless-people.html
Published: Dec 17, 2016
Author: Liam Quinn
Post Date: 2016-12-17 14:23:21 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 41161
Comments: 129

  • Footage was widely shared showing homeless people on the street in Denver
  • A group of officers dragged blankets from people and then carried them away
  • The videos were published by the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado
  • The rights group has called the Denver Police approach in the videos 'cruel'
  • Denver Mayor Michael Hancock denied what was seen is a 'widespread practice'

The Denver Police Department has been forced to defend its officers after shocking video emerged of cops taking blankets and survival gear from homeless people in the freezing cold.

Footage was widely circulated this week showing as many as nine officers standing over a group of homeless people, pulling blankets off them as they slept and sat on the sidewalk.

In a video published on November 29 shortly after 2:30am, two officers stacked the blankets in piles and then carried them away.

The blankets were taken as 'evidence' the homeless people in the video were committing a crime by violating the city's urban camping ban.

'We are taking your tent and sleeping bag as evidence of a crime,' one of the officers told a homeless man, who the video claims is a veteran.

'It's cold out here, and (the police) are telling me they don't give a f*** about whether I die out here in this cold weather,' the homeless man was heard saying in the footage.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado shared the videos this week, and included a letter to Denver Mayor Michael Hancock and the Denver City Council demanding officers stop taking things from homeless people.

'It is not an inherent crime to sleep outside, and many people right now have no other viable option,' ACLU of Colorado Executive Director Nathan Woodliff-Stanley said.

'Denver’s shelters are simply unable to serve all people in the Denver area experiencing homelessness, even in the short term, much less as a long-term solution.

'Until real solutions become Denver’s priority, the city’s ongoing policing-first approach to homelessness is a cruel waste of funds, curtailing fundamental constitutional rights, causing deep human suffering, and endangering lives.'

Hancock defended his officers, saying it is not a 'widespread practice', and claimed the homeless people were protesters.

'The video clip... was actually three individuals who were protesting and setting up camp in front of city hall,' he said, according to CBS Local.

'And after the police asked them to move, they did not, they were cited and their equipment was taken as evidence.

'But this is not a widespread practice throughout the city and we wanted to make sure that it didn’t go any further and that people understand this is not how we want to operate during these frigid temperatures.'

The Denver Police Department also released a statement, saying it took the equipment from the people in the videos because they were 'illegally camping'.

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#65. To: GrandIsland (#63)

I can't logically debate with you if your argument is that the defendants in the case should be able to violate certain laws,

The constitution is the supreme law of the land.

You never addressed my points I made about it.

Why do you think any law made is lawful and doesn't have to follow the constitution to the LETTER?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   21:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: A K A Stone (#33)

Manche führen, manche folgen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i_O22XR-6U.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-12-17   21:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: A K A Stone (#47)

The founders didn't have hotels with furnaces.

They had alms houses with fireplaces for the poor. They had municipal laws against loitering and vagrancy.

If you're actually interested in learning somenthing and having a teachable state of mind, I'll even tell you why.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   21:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: A K A Stone (#61)

The first amendment and the fourth.

The City and County of Denver are Congress?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: GrandIsland (#63)

Your idiology wouldn't hold up as a defense in court.

I agree. But I'm just stating the honest opinion that I have after reading the constitution and determining what the words literally mean.

I'm a person who likes things to be right.

If someone says they believe the Bible. Then I expect them to actually believe what it says and not something different.

I love this country and its constitution. I'm not a lawyer but I can read the words and what they mean. It is supposed to be the highest law of the land. So I take it literally. What the words literally mean. It is my expectation that the government should obey it 100 percent and not stray even .001 percent.

If they don't like the constitution because it limits laws they can pass that are non inconsistent with the document. Then change the constitution, and if you can't change it then don't whine that it is to hard. That means more people disagree with you and don't want it changed.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#60)

Public land is public land.

You own the whitehouse lawn... let me know how your Deckard like opinion works when you climb the fence.

You are really surprising me, Stone. I think you might wanna rename this site PAULTARDPOST.COM

You own your school playgrounds.... but you can't camp there. You own your state Forrest... but there are constitutionally tested laws on that too. YOU don't own public land in its entirety... other tax payers own it as well. So when you act like Deckard, and do whatever the fuck you like on public property, YOU VICTIMIZE YOUR PEERS.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   22:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: misterwhite (#62)

I think that falls under the penumbra of dragooning.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:02:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: GrandIsland (#70)

You own your school playgrounds.... but you can't camp there.

And the public school buildings. Pick the lock and settle in.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: GrandIsland (#48)

Do your local ordnance is a bag of shit.

Could you fix that so sober people can read it?

That was funny....VERY FUNNY.

He does get drunk every Saturday night ...

Gatlin  posted on  2016-12-17   22:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Roscoe (#68)

The first amendment and the fourth. The City and County of Denver are Congress?

Did you not know that every state in the union has a first amendment and a fourth.

There constituion is even more clear and protects those rights even more.

Section 7. Security of person and property - searches - seizures - warrants. The people shall be secure in their persons, papers, homes and effects, from unreasonable searches and seizures; and no warrant to search any place or seize any person or things shall issue without describing the place to be searched, or the person or thing to be seized, as near as may be, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation reduced to writing.

Section 10. Freedom of speech and press. No law shall be passed impairing the freedom of speech; every person shall be free to speak, write or publish whatever he will on any subject, being responsible for all abuse of that liberty; and in all suits and prosecutions for libel the truth thereof may be given in evidence, and the jury, under the direction of the court, shall determine the law and the fact.

(I like that one where they get it right and say the people determine LAW and fact)

Section 24. Right to assemble and petition. The people have the right peaceably to assemble for the common good, and to apply to those invested with the powers of government for redress of grievances, by petition or remonstrance.

Section 28. Rights reserved not disparaged. The enumeration in this constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny, impair or disparage others retained by the people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone (#65)

The constitution is the supreme law of the land.

You never addressed my points I made about it.

I addressed it twice.

Both times I've stated that the constitution doesn't protect against camping OFF YOUR PROPERTY. The constitution doesn't protect you from breaking laws while you protest.

Only in your mind it does... that's why you didn't hear me TWICE tell you that... unless this was yet another YELLA attempt at defending ones position.

You truly are surprising me. I'm beginning to see why you keep the agenda trash around.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   22:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: A K A Stone (#60)

According to me you should only be charged with trespassing if you are on private property not public property paid for by the people.

Occupy Wall Street camp

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:07:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: GrandIsland (#75)

You truly are surprising me. I'm beginning to see why you keep the agenda trash around.

I agree with what you call "the agenda trash" sometimes. Yes that is true.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Roscoe (#76)

Occupy Wall Street camp

Fucking lazy, drug addled, entitled hippie scumbags. Like our agenda trash.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   22:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: A K A Stone (#77) (Edited)

I agree with what you call "the agenda trash" sometimes. Yes that is true.

I figured it was purely for entertainment purposes is why you kept them around.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   22:11:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: A K A Stone (#74)

Did you not know that every state in the union has a first amendment and a fourth.

No, they don't.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:11:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Roscoe (#76)

That pic you provided looks awful. It looks unpleasant. It looks like a distraction. It looks like an inconvenience. I don't like occupy wallstreet. Don't agree with them.

But they do have a right to protest.

I can see why your side doesn't want to allow this. You have need for things to be tidy and you don't like seeing unpleasant things.

But that isn't a constitutional right and protesting is. Even if it is ugly or for stupid causes.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Roscoe (#80)

No, they don't.

Yes they do. If not prove it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: A K A Stone (#81)

But they do have a right to protest.

The street in front of your driveway is public property. Can they camp there and shit in the street?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: GrandIsland (#79)

I figured it was purely for entertainment purposes is why you kept them around.

I don't agree with legalized drugs. I don't agree most of the time. But Dexter and company are not wrong all of the time.

This has been an interesting conversation.

I also think that you and Dexter agree more then you think you do.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone (#82)

Yes they do.

No, they don't.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:14:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Roscoe (#83)

The street in front of your driveway is public property. Can they camp there and shit in the street?

I wouldn't like it. But they can protest in front of my house. But shitting wouldn't be allowed.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:15:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Roscoe (#85)

No, they don't.

You can repeat yourself all you want to. But you can't show a single example.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:16:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: A K A Stone (#84)

To: GrandIsland I figured it was purely for entertainment purposes is why you kept them around. I don't agree with legalized drugs. I don't agree most of the time. But Dexter and company are not wrong all of the time.

This has been an interesting conversation.

I also think that you and Dexter agree more then you think you do.

I agree... but his hate for LE in general leaves me with the mindset that if I had a legal reason to kill him, I'd do it with a smile.

That will never change.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   22:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: A K A Stone (#86)

But shitting wouldn't be allowed.

lol

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   22:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: A K A Stone (#86)

I wouldn't like it. But they can protest in front of my house.

Not house. In the street, blocking your driveway access.

But shitting wouldn't be allowed.

Why not? Campers shit in the woods. Occupy Wall Street protesters shit on the lawn of Los Angeles City Hall for weeks on end while they were camping out there.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: GrandIsland (#88)

Look here is my bottom line. There were 3 people there protesting. They weren't harming anyone. Who gives a shit if they sit there in the cold.

That is how I see it.

I have a soft spot for the little guy.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: A K A Stone (#87)

But you can't show a single example.

You just did. Colorado has no First Amendment.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Roscoe (#90)

I wouldn't like it. But they can protest in front of my house. Not house. In the street, blocking your driveway access.

But shitting wouldn't be allowed. Why not? Campers shit in the woods. Occupy Wall Street protesters shit on the lawn of Los Angeles City Hall for weeks on end while they were camping out there.

I'm just being honest with you. I have no problem with them protesting. Not blocking my driveway, that is different.

I've never said they can shit in public sidewalks etc. Arrest them if the do that. I just don't have a problem with people protesting. Even if I disagree with them. They will go away eventually.

That is one of the things that makes our country great. Being able to protest the government and not worried you will end up abused, in jail or dead.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:23:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: GrandIsland (#78)

Fucking lazy, drug addled, entitled hippie scumbags.

I had the misfortune of having an assignment downtown for a week while OWK was there. You could smell the stench from three blocks away. They were provided with chemical toilets at public expense, but they were too sorry to walk a few yards to use them.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Roscoe (#92)

You just did. Colorado has no First Amendment.

Actually they do. I already posted it. It might not be called the first amendment. But its wording has the same affect but even stronger.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: A K A Stone (#91) (Edited)

Look here is my bottom line. There were 3 people there protesting. They weren't harming anyone. Who gives a shit if they sit there in the cold.

Generally, I'd agree. If there wasn't a complaint by the public, I'd patrol by (as long as they weren't being loud, messy and disorderly, and I'd leave them alone. The problem with most of these YELLA articles is this, they don't print the other side. We don't know if there was multiple public complaints filed... Hell, for all we know, the police responded to a domestic in a tent or a drunk and disorderly protester with a passing motorist... we simply don't know the underlying circumstances that caused these officers to enforce written law.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   22:25:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: A K A Stone (#93)

Not blocking my driveway, that is different.

They were blocking the sidewalk.

If they had been standing there with protest signs, there would have been no problem.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:26:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: GrandIsland (#96)

I'm not even really saying you guys approach is totally illegitimate. You guys have legitimate concerns also. It is just my opinion that letting them protest would be better.

It doesn't even matter what any of us think. None of has any say or influence in the situation.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Roscoe (#97)

They were blocking the sidewalk.

If they had been standing there with protest signs, there would have been no problem.

They have to have a sign to protest? Why not just a sit in like the blacks used to do or words? Or their mere presence?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: A K A Stone (#98)

It doesn't even matter what any of us think. None of has any say or influence in the situation

That is very true. I did enjoy the exchange of opinions.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   22:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: A K A Stone (#93)

That is one of the things that makes our country great. Being able to protest the government and not worried you will end up abused, in jail or dead.

Tell that to Bundy. I am confident he will enjoy your sudden empathy.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-12-17   22:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: A K A Stone (#95)

But its wording has the same affect but even stronger.

Weaker, actually.

"...every person shall be free to speak, write or publish whatever he will on any subject, being responsible for all abuse of that liberty...

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   22:30:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Roscoe (#92)

But you can't show a single example. You just did. Colorado has no First Amendment.

Here it is again so you don't have to hunt it above.

Section 10. Freedom of speech and press. No law shall be passed impairing the freedom of speech; every person shall be free to speak, write or publish whatever he will on any subject, being responsible for all abuse of that liberty; and in all suits and prosecutions for libel the truth thereof may be given in evidence, and the jury, under the direction of the court, shall determine the law and the fact.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:30:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Roscoe (#102)

Weaker, actually.

Perhaps in some respects.

But stronger in other aspects.

Like putting in no law shall be made...

Still pretty much the same just like every other state.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:33:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: buckeroo (#101)

Tell that to Bundy. I am confident he will enjoy your sudden empathy.

I'm not sure I'm on his side or against him.

Probably for him.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   22:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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