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Title: Trump Just Met with Henry Kissinger: ‘I Have Tremendous Respect’ for Him
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The Anti-Media
URL Source: http://theantimedia.org/trump-met-kissinger-respect/
Published: Nov 18, 2016
Author: Carey Wedler
Post Date: 2016-11-20 02:20:57 by Deckard
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Views: 13590
Comments: 51
Since Donald Trump unexpectedly won the presidency last week, his official positions have become increasingly murky. Though he vowed to repeal Obamacare on the campaign trail, he has since softened his rhetoric. Though he claimed he would prosecute Hillary Clinton, he now says he doesn’t want to “hurt’ her and has avoided confirming any such plans. Though he initially claimed he would institute a Muslim registry of sorts — and his advisors are reportedly concocting plans to do so — he is yet to confirm whether or not he will implement one (spoiler alert: one was established for people from Muslim-majority countries during the Bush era). What is clear is that in spite of Trump’s anti-establishment rhetoric, he has thus far decided to surround himself with some of the establishment’s key figures. In addition to choosing advisors like war hawk James Woolsey, among other neoconservatives, Donald Trump has now sought guidance from Henry Kissinger, whom Clinton has called a friend. Kissinger first made a name for himself as an advisor to Richard Nixon. He played a key role in the administration’s wars in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. According to a statement from the Trump camp: “President-elect Trump and Dr. Kissinger have known each other for years and had a great meeting. They discussed China, Russia, Iran, the EU and other events and issues around the world.” But there’s just one problem: the establishment Trump has vowed to obliterate reveres Kissinger. Unsurprisingly (and just like the political establishment), Kissinger is responsible for millions of deaths around the world. In his book, The Trial of Henry Kissinger, the late Christopher Hitchens outlined key facts he argued prove Kissinger is a war criminal. As cited by the Intercept, Kissinger was behind a wide array of destructive policies: “1. The deliberate mass killing of civilian populations in Indochina. Greg Grandin, a professor of history at New York University, outlined Kissinger’s transgressions just during his time in the Nixon administration: “He (1) prolonged the Vietnam War for five pointless years; (2) illegally bombed Cambodia and Laos; (3) goaded Nixon to wiretap staffers and journalists; (4) bore responsibility for three genocides in Cambodia, East Timor, and Bangladesh; (5) urged Nixon to go after Daniel Ellsberg for having released the Pentagon Papers, which set off a chain of events that brought down the Nixon White House; (6) pumped up Pakistan’s ISI, and encouraged it to use political Islam to destabilize Afghanistan; (7) began the U.S.’s arms-for-petrodollars dependency with Saudi Arabia and pre-revolutionary Iran; (8) accelerated needless civil wars in southern Africa that, in the name of supporting white supremacy, left millions dead; (9) supported coups and death squads throughout Latin America; and (10) ingratiated himself with the first-generation neocons, such as Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, who would take American militarism to its next calamitous level.” Grandin notes that a “full tally hasn’t been done, but a back-of-the-envelope count would attribute 3, maybe 4 million deaths to Kissinger’s actions, but that number probably undercounts his victims in southern Africa.” Kissinger has met with every incoming president since he worked in the Nixon administration. The only exception to that rule was Barack Obama, who did not seek his advice. Though Trump’s meeting with Kissinger is not guaranteed to reflect in Trump’s policies – especially considering how erratic the new president has proved himself to be — his decision to meet with one of Hillary Clinton’s favorite advisors reflects his lack of commitment to his previous rhetoric. Though Trump campaigned on the sentiment that nation-building is unwise and the Iraq War was a mistake, he is now seeking guidance from one of the foundational architects of America’s decades-old role as chief hegemonist and policeman of the world. “I have tremendous respect for Dr. Kissinger and appreciate him sharing his thoughts with me,” Trump said after meeting with him. Perhaps the best example of Kissinger’s poor judgment is reflected in a statement from Hillary Clinton during a presidential primary debate: “I was very flattered when Henry Kissinger said I ran the State Department better — better than anybody had run it in a long time.”
2. Deliberate collusion in mass murder, and later in assassination, in Bangladesh.
3. The personal suborning and planning of murder, of a senior constitutional officer in a democratic nation — Chile — with which the United States was not at war.
4. Personal involvement in a plan to murder the head of state in the democratic nation of Cyprus.
5. The incitement and enabling of genocide in East Timor
6. Personal involvement in a plan to kidnap and murder a journalist living in Washington, D.C.” 
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Having tremendous respect for Heny Kissinger is a bad thing? Having respect fot the individual in no way means that Henry Kissinger will influence Donald’s way of thinking or that he will adopt Kissinger’s ideas, if they were even presented.
Yes. Having any respect for him at all is a bad thing. If Kissinger were 1,000 times better than he is now,he would still be a turd in a suit. Having said that,as President,Trump wasn't really meeting with Komrade Kissinger,the Jewish Nazi. Kissinger is only the public front man. The PRESIDENT ELECT was really meeting with the men with no faces or names that Kissinger speaks for. Which does NOT mean that Trump is accepting their list of wants and agreeing to make them come true. He is not even sworn in yet so he has ZERO power to fight back or punish people that come after him,so he pretty much has to meet with the emmissaries of the international bankers and listen to their proposals. Not only is there nothing wrong with that as long as he doesn't make firm commitments to please them,but it is the smart thing to do. After all,how can you hope to defeat your enemies if you don't know how they think and what their goals are? Now,if he were to offer Kissinger any sort of official or even unofficial position in government,I would be screaming he be impeached the day he is sworn in.
What is so bad about Kisinger? He was in office before my time. So I don't know everything about him. He seems ok.
EVERY bad decisions made about VN was made by Kissinger,and then when it was decided to bring the troops home and quit pretending we were trying to win,he did a 180 and blamed everyone else for his bad decisions. He is a globalist asshat that has never had a position he won't change for a bag of cash. If that ain't enough,he is the one responsible for inflicting us with Colon Powell. Kissinger picked him out of a litter of losers to be his assistant while he was Sec of State PROBABLY because he was soft-spoken black man that spoke English,and Kissinger wanted to look open-minded. Once Kissinger became his rabbi,Powell quickly made rank and retired as a General. If it hadn't been for Kissinger,he would have been put out of the army as a Captain due to being passed over for promotion. Powell is the ONLY infantry branch officer I have ever heard of that served a full year as a advisor to a South Vietnamese Ranger Battalion in combat,and not only never got shot at because he never went on combat patrols or attacks with them,but didn't even get ANY awards or decorations from the South Vietnamese Army. Not even the tiniest "thanks for not setting fire to our couuntry" award. Plus the Purple Heart he got as a major was undeserved and he only received that and the CIB he wears because of Kissiner wanted him to have them and nobody in the army brass they didn't want to get booted out could say "No" to Kissinger. Powell was a freaking staff weenie to a Brigade on the second tour,and the PH came from a injury he got when a helicopter he was flying in had mechanical problems and crash landed. There was NO combat involved,it was purely a mechanical issue,and you are NOT supposed to receive a Purple Heart unless you were wounded in actual combat with an armed enemy. I am GUESSING the CIB came from the same event because he didn't get one his first tour as an advisor,and that is also unheard of in the army.
You know maybe you guys should help us younger kids. I was in elementary school during the height of the war. Most people my age really do not have a clue when it comes to Vietnam and politics of that time. Schools ignored it and our parents tried to keep us from having to deal with it. My first understanding of politics came under Carter(What a loser).
No so sure how much help I would be. I am as biased against the communists as the communists trying to take over this country were and are against America. Basically it was JFK that got us involved in VN on the ground combat level. He did this by sending the first Special Forces Advisors there in I THINK 1962. The first US troops to go to Indochina (later to be known as Viet Nam) were as observers sent there during WW-2 to do a "meet and greet" with the guerilla leaders fighting against the Japanese to see if we should give them material and manpower support to help them overthrow our common enemy. I may be wrong,but I THINK the decision was to not give them any support. I am GUESSING the reason behind this was because the guerilla bands were predominately communist,and they spent as much effort fighting against their fellow VN that were allied with the French as they did the Japanese. There were a few SF soldiers sent there in 56 as pure observers to see pass back info to DC on how the then budding guerilla war by the north against the south was developing,and to make judgements on the military and political stability and future of the country. These guys were in civilian clothes and not working as combatants,although eventually most of them had been attacked and survived gun fights. They were serving in a PASSIVE role though,not an aggressive role. Then sometime around late 1959 the first US SF advisors were sent there in uniform to help train the South Vietnamese Army. Once again,their role was passive. They were to train,but NOT to go on combat patrols or to lead SVN troops in combat. At roughly the same time we were sending SF teams into Laos on Operation White Star. IIRC,this was going on from roughly 1959 to 1961. Most of those guys were TDY from the 1st Group on Okinawa,but some came from the 77th SFG at Bragg. I was later friends with some of these guys,and if he hasn't died in the last two years,at least one of them is still alive. White Star was a totally separate operation from the one in VN,though. Some time in late 64 the White House (LBJ) decided to send the entire 5th SFG from Bragg to South Vietnam,and this was a to be their permanent home base. Before the 5th colors were pulled and the entire unit was officially sent back to the states to Kentucky,there were tens of thousands of US SF soldiers doing various things in VN and surrounding countries and waters. Even after the 5th officially returned to the US there were some US SF guys still running recon operations in VN,Laos,and Cambodia. They just took off their berets and put on baseball caps and called themselves "Task Force something or another". In 1965 LBJ decided to add conventional ground combat units to the mix,and the USMC made a beach landing at Da Nang,where they were greeted and recorded by a BUNCH of tv cameras. Still,the USMC IS the USMC,and they can't just land in airplanes,they have to make an amphibious landing so the Navy is involved,too. US troop involvement after that just exploded. Pretty soon there were multiple infantry divisions running around all over the place. It was the Dims that started and built the VN War into the huge event it became,and they stuck with it right up to the point where prominent Dims like Robert Kennedy saw there was no way to just get the VN to quit and there was no way to win unless they wanted to get serious about it. For political reasons,they knew THEY would never do that because too many in the Dim leadership were either communist sympathizers or outright communists themselves,so suddenly,overnight,Richard M.Nixon became responsible for the whole damn thing. It was ALL his fault and the fault of other Republicans,dating all the way back to WW-2. If you read history now you will read that JFK,the guy that started US involvement was really against the war,even though nobody was more enthusiastic about it than him. He was killed in Dallas,a redneck none of the "proper people in the northeast" approved of became the President,and the northeastern Dims did a 180 and became anti-war. Yeah,LBJ was a Dim,but he was from Texas,and that practically made him a Republican in the eyes of the ruling classes. The Dim-controlled Congress cut the legs out under Nixon by refusing to budget the VN war,forcing him to cut back operations,and eventually forcing him to agree to withdraw American troops. Part of the agreement was that once Nixon withdrew US combat troops Congress would then agree to provide the SVN government with money and material to defeat the North Vietnamese,who were funded by China and the USSR. They lied. The instant US combat troops were pulled out of the country Congress pulled the plug on financing and providing "guns,butter,and fuel" (everything necessary) to fight the war,thereby guaranteeing a communist victory. Our media gleefully reported on the losses and desertions of the SVN army against the "Mighty Peep-Pulls Army of North Viet Nam",but what none of the talking heads on the news shows were reporting is the SVN Army was usually running away because they no longer had any fuel for their tanks or trucks,no food to eat,and no ammunition to shoot,thanks to the Dim-Controlled US Congress. This Nixon ended up getting blamed in the media and some history books as being the "First American President to ever lose a war",but the only reason he lost it was because the Dim-Controlled Congress cut off the money and the supplies. So,now we are here,a couple of decades later,after literally millions of lives were lost (the North Vietnamese alone lost MORE than 1 MILLION soldiers!),and even VN is no longer a communist country in anything more than name. Even China isn't communist anymore,although it is still a dictatorship. China is now firmly the leader of the Fascist Left. About the only communist countries left are the ones that shithead in North Korean runs as a private prison,and Cuba,which is still controlled by the decaying Castro brothers.
No[t] so sure how much help I would be. That was better help than I could have ever been….and much more greatly appreciated coming from a “foot soldier.” I had the greatest respect for you guys and what you did….I still do, and I always will. I would like to share something with you, if I may. I was at the eye clinic Friday where I saw a guy in the waiting area as I came in…slumped in a wheelchair and wearing a black “Nam” baseball cap. I did as I always do every time I see someone wearing “the” cap….I stopped and gave him a smart hand salute. The fellow could barely raise his arm, but he did so hesitantly and returned the salute. The young lady with him smiled and said: “It’s his birthday….he’s a Marine.” I then said to him: “Happy birthday Marine and Semper Fi.” He barely raised his hand and gave me a “thumbs up.” I felt good about that, and thought you might appreciate the story. I hope you did….I enjoyed telling it to you.
#47. To: sneakypete (#46)
Pete, did you ever see A Bright Shining Lie, the 1998 American made-for-television war drama film based on Neil Sheehan's book of the same name and the true story of John Paul Vann's experience in the Vietnam War. I don’t know how much the movie was jazzed up, you would know best about that…. but I do know that Bill Paxton did one fine job of acting the part of Vann. A Bright Shining Lie will always be my favorite “Nam” movie.
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#4. To: Gatlin (#1)
(Edited)
Having tremendous respect for Heny Kissinger is a bad thing?
#5. To: sneakypete (#4)
#9. To: A K A Stone (#5)
(Edited)
What is so bad about Kisinger?
#17. To: sneakypete, buckeroo (#9)
EVERY bad decisions made about VN was made by Kissinger,and then when it was decided to bring the troops home and quit pretending we were trying to win,he did a 180 and blamed everyone else for his bad decisions.
#24. To: Justified (#17)
You know maybe you guys should help us younger kids. I was in elementary school during the height of the war. Most people my age really do not have a clue when it comes to Vietnam and politics of that time. Schools ignored it and our parents tried to keep us from having to deal with it. My first understanding of politics came under Carter(What a loser).
#46. To: sneakypete, Justified (#24)
(Edited)
You know maybe you guys should help us younger kids.
Replies to Comment # 46. From Wikipedia: John Paul Vann.
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