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Title: Ten third-party candidate names at top of Never Trump’s list
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The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box ... es-at-top-of-never-trumps-list
Published: May 6, 2016
Author: Jonathan Easley
Post Date: 2016-05-06 13:28:24 by Hondo68
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"Never Trump" Republicans aren’t giving up in their quest to find a conservative alternative to Donald Trump
Now that Trump has cleared the field of rivals to become the GOP's presumptive presidential nominee, anti-Trump conservatives have turned their attention to recruiting a candidate to challenge Trump and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton
The Hill interviewed several operatives associated with the anti-Trump movement to ask who they’d like to see run
Here’s who they hope to see on the ballot
Mitt Romney
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.)
The 44-year-old freshman senator from Nebraska has been one of the most vocal opponents to Trump on Capitol Hill.
Anti-Trump Republicans are holding out hope he’ll reconsider. Three different people mentioned his name to The Hill on Thursday.
Rep. Justin Amash
Former Sen. Tom Coburn
The Kentucky GOP made it so that Paul could run for both president and reelection to the Senate simultaneously. But Paul's reelection bid is now in full-swing, and it would irritate many in the party if he were to distract himself from that with another long-shot presidential bid. 1) Paul Ryan
2) Mitt Romney
3) Sen. Ben Sasse
4) General John Kelly
5) Gary Johnson
6) Rep. Justin Amash
7) Tom Coburn
8) Marco Rubio
9) Nikki Haley
10) Rand Paul
If Gary Johnson gets the Libertarian Party nomination, he'll have near 50 state ballot access.
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in the general election, either as an independent write-in candidate or as part of a third-party campaign.
Speaker Paul Ryan
Paul Ryan ’s (R-Wis.) decision Thursday to not endorse Trump will only give further oxygen to the furious efforts by some to find a Trump alternative
The 2012 GOP nominee first declined to run for president in January of 2015.
Since then, he’s consistently beat back pleas from panicked establishment Republicans to return to the fray and save the party from Trump.
The announcement Thursday from Ryan, Romney’s 2012 running mate, that he’s not ready to back Trump will surely fuel rumors that the former Massachusetts governor could get back in the ring.
In many ways, Romney would be the dream anti-Trump recruit.
He would have instant access to a national fundraising network and enough name ID to move quickly up the polls and make the debate stage.
Romney’s entrance would attract a media frenzy, and he’s the kind of center-right candidate that Republicans opposed to Trump could feel good about voting for.
Romney has thoroughly rebuked Trump and campaigned against him at every turn.
He has said that he will write a name in if his options are down Trump and Clinton. Could that be his name
On Thursday, Sasse penned an open letter on his Facebook page about why voters should not settle for either Trump or Clinton and outlined the qualities he wants to see in an independent or third-party candidate.
“Why are we confined to these two terrible options?” he wrote. “This is America. If both choices stink, we reject them and go bigger. That’s what we do.”
Unfortunately for anti-Trump conservatives, Sasse, who has a young family, says he won’t run himself
General John Kelly
Anti-Trump conservatives spent months trying to convince Gen. James “Mad Dog” Mattis, a revered, straight-talking four-star retired Marine Corps general, to launch an independent bid.
Mattis officially took his name out of the running last week.
Now they have their eyes on another tell-it-like-it-is military man: Former U.S. Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly.
Kelly retired in January after more than four decades of service. He spent years in various leadership posts in Iraq and lost a son, former Marine Robert Kelly, to combat in Afghanistan.
Kelly has not spoken publicly about the presidential race, and a spokesperson did not return a request for comment about whether he’d be interested.
Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson
The Libertarian Party nominee is so far the only candidate other than Trump and Clinton who is likely to be on the ballot in all 50 states.
Johnson served two terms as the Republican governor of New Mexico beginning in 1995. He participated in one GOP presidential debate early in the 2012 cycle before running as a Libertarian and winning about 1.3 million votes in the general election.
Since 2012, Johnson has been working as president of a marijuana marketing firm. He left that position to run for president, winning the Libertarian nomination again in 2016.
One of the biggest challenges facing a new candidate will be hitting the threshold of 15 percent in national polls to qualify for the debates.
Johnson could be the answer: A Monmouth University survey from late March found him taking 11 percent in a hypothetical match-up against Trump and Clinton.
In a statement released Wednesday after Sen. Ted Cruz
(R-Texas) left the GOP race, Johnson put himself forward as the alternative to “two of the most polarizing candidates in recent history.”
“With millions of Americans now feeling politically ‘homeless,’ a two-term Governor who balanced budgets, cut taxes, cut regulations and truly reduced the size of government may offer the home they are seeking,” Johnson said
The 36-year-old libertarian-leaning Michigan lawmaker says he’ll never support Trump and is furious with colleagues who have warmed to the likely nominee in recent weeks.
Amash, who first backed Sen. Rand Paul
(R-Ky.) in the primary and later Cruz, has thrived on Capitol Hill as a wildcard willing to buck GOP leaders.
He stoked speculation that a third-party run may be in the works with a cryptic tweet sent out late Tuesday night after Cruz suspended his campaign.
Amash did not return a request for comment
(R-Okla.)
Coburn served three terms in the House followed by two in the Senate, cutting his final stint short after being diagnosed with cancer.
Healthy now, Coburn is on the short list for most anti-Trump Republicans.
The Oklahoma Republican, who backed Sen. Marco Rubio
(R-Fla.) in the primary, told The New York Times earlier this year that he’d back a third-party bid to stop Trump.
Coburn said he didn’t expect that he would be that candidate, but he also declined to rule it out.
Coburn is well-known inside Washington from his frequent appearances on the cable news circuit. He's quotable and has a reputation as a pragmatic conservative.
But some believe he lacks the name recognition and a national fundraising network to get off the ground.
Nikki Haley
The South Carolina governor is one of the brightest young stars in the Republican Party.
Several anti-Trump conservatives have dropped her name, and the reasons are clear: As an Indian-American woman, she provides a double-shot of diversity. She’s also telegenic, charismatic and one of the most popular governors in the country.
Haley said Wednesday she’d support the GOP nominee, but she could come under pressure to challenge him instead.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
The former “most interesting man in politics” could reclaim that title with a bold move back into the presidential race.
He’d likely find the press eager to cover his bid this time, giving him a platform to get out his message of expanding the party. That message was drowned out last year in the crowded GOP primary.
Conservative blogger Erick Erickson, a prominent “Never Trump” voice, told The Hill on Thursday that Paul would be a “viable” contender as a third-party or independent candidate
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#84. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#78)
I agree with what you said about "equal treatment under the law", but not when it comes to marriage. The State has no business regulating or getting involved in it. Marriage is a religious (Christian) institution, not a government one, and as such it is not a constitutional right. Equal treatment? No - they want the rest of us to give up our rights. You MUST bake a cake for queers. You MUST open bathrooms to transgenders. You MUST NOT not speak out against homosexuality or they will retaliate. Homosexuals are the new fascists. If they want to start their own "church" and perform unions there, fine by me. But it's not a marriage in any sense of the word. The reason you get so hysterical over this is you KNOW I am right,but don't can't face the truth because you KNOW in your heart what you want is a religious dictatorship. I totally agree with you on this. In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much "Truth is great and will prevail" That's what differentiates what you're providing for the public benefit here - What's going on over there isn't what Jefferson had in mind; nor is it the electronic democracy David Hughes envisioned circa 1981: ============================= ... Electronic Democracy And it was primarily dedicated to the purposes of Electronic Democracy. One section was called 'Rogers Bar' - for the actual Rogers Bar in Old Colorado City two blocks away was always the place that Democratic Westside Union Politics were debated. I became the defacto 'Electronic Bartender' - who kept peace, moderated discussions, and posted LOCAL issues worth debating online. It was not IN Roger's Bar, but ABOUT the political discussions that took place there. I had thought hard about the American political process. That seemed to me had three components - first the distibution of information or issues to the public. Newspapers books, magazines and television did a credible job doing that. And in the end, individuals cast their ballots or took action. But in between Americans had to Discuss, Debate, Argue, Listen to others, and finally Decide, before casting their ballots. And through such debate, asking questions, expressing opinions they make up their minds. What the Electronic Democracy Bulletin Board could do was foster and encourage the vital DEBATE phase of the democratic process. For it linked INDIVIDUALS to each other ASYCHRONOUSLY (not just in real time) - not just to institutions, or just let 'News Anchors' or 'experts' or candididates tell them - in one way slick ads - what to think. Before my BBS, (and then much later what are called 'Blogs') most individuals only discussed political issues and matters with a small local, face to face circle - family, friends, maybe at work. The rest of the time they were beseiged some could say brainwashed - by mass media. ... What you're operating reflects the tradition of Col. Hughes. Jim Robinson OTOH - Not. So. Much.
In a secular context it's a state-established mechanism for manipulating the reproductive fitness of the collect herd/hive. That's the spirit of anti-Christ, not the union Christ defined and illustrated with himself as the head of His church.
Makes a good sound byte - but Trump [and his followers] consistently fail to articulate the conservative ideological precepts that differentiated the U.S.A. from the ideals of the U.S.S.R. - personified by Soviet Communists such as Vlad Putin and Viktor Yanukovytch. http://www.google.com/? gws_rd=ssl#q=Trump+Manafort+Yanukovych Why is that?
Makes a good sound byte - but Trump [and his followers] consistently fail to articulate the conservative ideological precepts that differentiated the U.S.A. from the ideals of the U.S.S.R. The slogan (and the implied promise) is just as empty as "Hope and Change". In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much An alpha and a cuck.
Yep. His consistent inability to articulate a worldview that reflects America's fundamental founding precepts, or to articulate the fundamental differences between the U.S.A. and the U.S.S.R., ought to be a clue. (Ronald Reagan never had that problem) A campaign manager who tried to prop up Soviet Communist thug Vikto Yanukovytch; and a Soros/Sachs finance chairman... Ought to be big Red waving oligarchic flags. But, evidently that doesn't matter to the Reality TeeVee Tsar's fans.
Thanks dude, Mrs Trump is one fine woman to look at early in the morning. I'm definitely voting for the guy who can score a fine woman like that. TRUMP2016(don't be a pussy, just score the best pussy)
I suppose that is what passes for logic and wit in your circles? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Well,the state does have the right to prevent an adult from marrying a child,or a brother from marrying a sister if the sister is able to conceive. Other than extremes like that,I agree. Marriage is a religious (Christian) institution, And your train just left the tracks. Marriage existed long before Christianity,and will still exist when Christianity withers away and dies from lack of interest. not a government one, and as such it is not a constitutional right. BullBush. "Freedom of Association". Equal treatment? No - they want the rest of us to give up our rights. People want all sorts of things they will never get. You MUST bake a cake for queers. You MUST open bathrooms to transgenders. Neither is of any legitimate concern to the government. In fact,the government is violating it's own laws by trying to force people to do these things against their will. You MUST NOT not speak out against homosexuality or they will retaliate. And you can defend yourself. Free speech,and all dat. Homosexuals are the new fascists. Just one of many. There seems to be no shortage of fascists floating around in the 21st Century. If they want to start their own "church" and perform unions there, fine by me. They don't even need to do that. They can have a judge or a JP wed them in a civil ceremony. NONE of their rights are being infringed upon by being refused church weddings. But it's not a marriage in any sense of the word. It's a marriage in every sense of the word. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Only partially. Not everybody that gets married wants to have children,or are even able to have children. For example there was a news story a month or so ago about a couple in their late 90's getting married at the senior center where they both live. Call me a pessimist if you want,but I ain't predicting any children for that couple. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Putin has become an adult now,and morphed into being a fascist. Not only that,but by all the reports I have seen,he's loving the change. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
All it takes is money. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Even so such a marriage still has an impact on the socio-biological fitness of a culture by the behavior it models.
He exemplifies the line of Reality Tee Vee Tsars that go all the way back through history to Sargon.
Ok,ya got me there. I have no idea who that guy is. The only Sargon I ever heard of died a few thousand years before teebee was invented. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
I'm definitely voting for the guy who can score a fine woman like that. What was the typical career path for "super models" groomed by their father's fellow communists circa 1989?
That's the one. The word Sar-gon means sun-prince. http://www.google.com/search? q=sargon+akkadian+%22sun+prince%22 The same Akkadian root that's found in CaeSAR, KaiSAR, tSAR, cZAR, NebuchadnezZAR. In Russian the old joke: Ne Bu Chad Neh Zar: "There is no god but the Tzar". http://www.google.com/search? q=Nebuchadnezzar+"no+god+but+the+tzar" The cunneiform symbol for the king? A Star. Hence when a king was deposed (like Nebuchadnezzar in Isaiah 14:12) his "star is fallen" - and scratched off the walls of the local palace. They all pretended to be "gods" atop the state pyramid scheme. Same ol' state-established Ba'alshyte, different municipal toilet.
I suppose that is what passes for logic and wit in your circles? What's illogical about it? Is it not a correct statement? A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. I suppose that is what passes for logic and wit in your circles? What's illogical about it? Is it not a correct statement? No,it's not logical because a homosexual man has no more interest in marrying a woman than you do in marrying another man. The only people that have a choice are bi-sexuals. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Well,they think they ARE "gods" today,and only pretend to be modest about it. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
No,it's not logical because a homosexual man has no more interest in marrying a woman than you do in marrying another man. So if I have no interest in exercising a certain right, I don't really have that right? A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. No,it means that right is irrelevant to you,just like the rights of other people to marry who they want to marry instead of who YOU want them to marry is irrelevant to you. You are really and truly an idiot if you really believe saying "They have the same right to marry a woman that I do" is profound. Even most Kennedy's are bright enough to know better than that. And you need to change your screen name,also. Maybe to something like "Conserving ONLY the freedoms *I* approve of!" BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
But nonetheless a right I possess. Where did I say or imply it was profound? It's a fact, and it rebuts your claim, "If homosexuals don't have the right to marry,neither do you." I support the rights of adult perverts to do in private whatever disgusting things they mutually agree to. Since marriage is not a creation of government but a recognition by government of a pre-existing societal institution, there is no "right" to have government fabricate a never-existed institution for perverts. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Modern instances of the wise fools described in Romans chapter 1. Nature hasn't changed since then.
Pete is the closet queer of the site. He would defend a queer to the death. That is why he is also known as sneakapeter. He is sick in the head. He is immoral. He is a fool.
Wise and true words spoken to a degenerate.
Nobody can deny you a right you have no interest in exercising. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
HorseHillary. You are lying to yourself in order to blindly support your bigotry because you want your bigotry to be the law so the government will punish people you don't like and whose conduct you don't approve. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
He is sick in the head. He is immoral. He is a fool. If there is anybody on this site in the closet it is you and Fire Island,and it is the guilt and shame you both feel over being homosexual or bi-sexual that causes you both to foam at the mouth anytime the word is mentioned. Tell me,if your God is "all-seeing" like you claim,how is it you think think you can deny your true nature to him so you don't end up spending an eternity burning in Hell's Fire? Since you can't fool your God and nobody else cares,don't you think it's time for you to act like an adult instead of a guilty child? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
"Love your fellow man!" Jesus BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Sneakapeter you are the one who supports the faggot agenda and the destruction of American culture. You closeted buttboys always call others what you are when you are called on it. You're sick in the head geeezer. Your parents would be ashamed of you. Your mama probably would wonder why she didn't smother you at birth. I'm asking myself. Why do I let a degenerate piece of shit like yourself post here. When all you do is attack the first amendment and say it is for superstitious people. When you attack superior American culture and want it replaced by Sodom and Gomorrah Sneakapeter culture. I really should ban you forever. All you do is promote sicko stuff. You're the new meguro. At some point I will ban you forever. Maybe today. You just get on my nerves with your anti American lies. Then you say the founders thought faggots should marry. You are a lying sack of shit. Your days are numbered. Hell is your destination and you will soon be kicked to the curb here.
That doesn't mean to lie to a sinner and say it is ok.
Sneakapeter you are the one who supports the faggot agenda and the destruction of American culture. It is people like YOU that use your religious bigotry as a weapon who are busy destroying the American culture,and this is THE very reason the Founding Fathers made sure there were be no official religion in this country,and that religion had no role in governing. You closeted buttboys always call others what you are when you are called on it. That describes you and Fire Island perfectly. You're sick in the head geeezer. Your parents would be ashamed of you. Your mama probably would wonder why she didn't smother you at birth. Ahhh,more of your Christian compassion and love of your fellow man (in a heterosexual way) on display. I bet your preacher pays you money to not name your cult on the internet. Maybe you could point out to us the place in the Bible where Jesus suggested mothers murder their infants? I'm asking myself. Why do I let a degenerate piece of shit like yourself post here. When all you do is attack the first amendment and say it is for superstitious people. No,you dummy. I say it is dummies like you who are attacking the First Amendment by using your superstitious beliefs as a weapon to DEMAND we create different classes of Americans,with some having fewer freedoms and rights than others,and try to use your God as a hammer to smite others by sending us to hell forever for not agreeing with you. When you attack superior American culture and want it replaced by Sodom and Gomorrah Sneakapeter culture. You seem to have this strange obsession with sneaking peters. Maybe the one you hate the most is yourself? I really should ban you forever. That's because you want an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you. You want to be the new Jim Rob,but just don't have enough members to get away with it. There are only a few dozen people that post here anyhow,so if 15 or 20 drop out or get banned you would be posting to yourself. That ain't no way to become the New Messiah,is it? All you do is promote sicko stuff. Yeah,we don't need all that stinking freedom stuff,do we? Not when we have you and your obsessions to tell us what to think and to do. You're the new meguro. Hate to disappoint you,but I'm not a homosexual. You just get on my nerves with your anti American lies. Yeah,I can see where the Bill of Rights gets in your way. That's why we have it,to prevent dictators and tyrants from taking over the country. Then you say the founders thought faggots should marry. Where have I EVER claimed that ANYONE should get married other than parents of children,never mind homosexuals? C'mon,post my quote with a link to that thread,or admit you are lying. You are a lying sack of shit. No,but you are. What you hate most of all is people that point out your hypocrisy,inconsistencies,and outright lies in support of a religion that even YOU don't follow according to your own words and actions. You CONSISTENTLY "preach" hate and promote punishments and loss of rights and freedoms for anyone who doesn't agree with you. I got news for you,Bubba. If there is a hell and I go there,I fully expect to see you showing up,too. Hell,compared to you,*I* am the one that follows the teachings of Jesus! Bigot,heal thyself! Hell is your destination .... I'll save you a seat. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
That doesn't mean to lie to a sinner and say it is ok. You can't even agree with one of the most basic tenets of Christianity,and you call yourself a Christian? What is the denomination you allege to follow? BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Since you've resorted to shrieking "bigotry" and stamping your little feet, I guess I'd better not hold my breath waiting for a response to this point: 'I support the rights of adult perverts to do in private whatever disgusting things they mutually agree to. Since marriage is not a creation of government but a recognition by government of a pre-existing societal institution, there is no "right" to have government fabricate a never-existed institution for perverts.' A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. Wrong - to love a sinner is to clearly and lovingly point out their sin so they have the opportunity to repent. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. That's not a point. It's a propaganda speech. BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO! ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.
Please continue to shriek and stamp your little feet - it leaves no doubt in any sane mind as to who has the better of the argument. A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them. That's what everyone thinks when they see me and my young wife. The problem is that my old ass is broke and she has all the money. Still can't figure out what the hell she's doing with my raggedy ass, she could do way, way better.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#85. To: A K A Stone (#70)
But when they support the faggot agenda then lie and say it is conservative.
In that case, the lie is a self-evident contradiction of natural law.
--Thomas Jefferson
- as opposed to what TOS has been doing with its active pro- Trump/[candidate of the cycle] censorship.
http://davehugheslegacy.net/ index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=420
Thank you for the voice!
#86. To: Deckard (#84)
Marriage is a religious (Christian) institution, not a government one, and as such it is not a constitutional right.
#87. To: A K A Stone (#63)
Make America Great Again!
#88. To: Roscoe (#71)
#89. To: VxH, A K A Stone (#87)
Make America Great Again!
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#90. To: VxH (#88)
#91. To: Deckard (#89)
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just as empty as "Hope and Change".
#92. To: VxH (#88)
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#93. To: ConservingFreedom (#83)
A homosexual has the same right as I do to marry a member of the opposite sex.
#94. To: Deckard (#84)
I agree with what you said about "equal treatment under the law", but not when it comes to marriage. The State has no business regulating or getting involved in it.
#95. To: VxH (#86)
In a secular context it's a state-established mechanism for manipulating the reproductive fitness of the collect herd/hive.
#96. To: VxH (#87)
Trump [and his followers] consistently fail to articulate the conservative ideological precepts that differentiated the U.S.A. from the ideals of the U.S.S.R. - personified by Soviet Communists such as Vlad Putin and Viktor Yanukovytch.
#97. To: calcon (#92)
I'm definitely voting for the guy who can score a fine woman like that.
#98. To: sneakypete (#95)
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I ain't predicting any children for that couple.
#99. To: sneakypete (#96)
he's loving the change.
#100. To: VxH (#99)
Reality Tee Vee Tsars that go all the way back through history to Sargon
#101. To: calcon (#92)
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Thanks dude, Mrs Trump is one fine woman to look at early in the morning.
#102. To: sneakypete (#100)
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The only Sargon I ever heard of died a few thousand years before teebee was invented.
#103. To: sneakypete (#93)
"A homosexual has the same right as I do to marry a member of the opposite sex."
#104. To: ConservingFreedom (#103)
"A homosexual has the same right as I do to marry a member of the opposite sex."
#105. To: VxH (#102)
They all pretended to be "gods" atop the state pyramid scheme.
#106. To: sneakypete (#104)
"A homosexual has the same right as I do to marry a member of the opposite sex."
#107. To: ConservingFreedom (#106)
So if I have no interest in exercising a certain right, I don't really have that right?
#108. To: sneakypete (#107)
No,it means that right is irrelevant to you
You are really and truly an idiot if you really believe saying "They have the same right to marry a woman that I do" is profound.
And you need to change your screen name,also. Maybe to something like "Conserving ONLY the freedoms *I* approve of!"
#109. To: sneakypete (#105)
Well,they think they ARE "gods" today,and only pretend to be modest about it.
#110. To: ConservingFreedom (#108)
#111. To: ConservingFreedom (#108)
I support the rights of adult perverts to do in private whatever disgusting things they mutually agree to. Since marriage is not a creation of government but a recognition by government of a pre-existing societal institution, there is no "right" to have government fabricate a never-existed institution for perverts.
#112. To: ConservingFreedom (#106)
So if I have no interest in exercising a certain right, I don't really have that right?
#113. To: ConservingFreedom (#108)
Where did I say or imply it was profound? It's a fact, and it rebuts your claim, "If homosexuals don't have the right to marry,neither do you."
#114. To: A K A Stone (#110)
Pete is the closet queer of the site. He would defend a queer to the death. That is why he is also known as sneakapeter.
#115. To: A K A Stone (#111)
Wise and true words spoken to a degenerate.
#116. To: sneakypete (#114)
#117. To: sneakypete (#115)
"Love your fellow man!"
#118. To: A K A Stone (#116)
#119. To: A K A Stone (#117)
"Love your fellow man!"
#120. To: sneakypete (#113)
You are lying to yourself in order to blindly support your bigotry because you want your bigotry to be the law so the government will punish people you don't like and whose conduct you don't approve.
#121. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#119)
You can't even agree with one of the most basic tenets of Christianity
#122. To: ConservingFreedom (#120)
'I support the rights of adult perverts to do in private whatever disgusting things they mutually agree to. Since marriage is not a creation of government but a recognition by government of a pre-existing societal institution, there is no "right" to have government fabricate a never-existed institution for perverts.'
#123. To: sneakypete (#122)
propaganda
#124. To: sneakypete (#97)
All it takes is money.
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