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Title: The Future Of America? – More Than Half Of All U.S. Adults Under Age 30 Now Reject Capitalism
Source: The Economic Collapse
URL Source: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/ ... r-age-30-now-reject-capitalism
Published: Apr 28, 2016
Author: Michael Snyder
Post Date: 2016-04-28 21:27:43 by U don't know me
Keywords: None
Views: 21898
Comments: 83

The Future Of America? – More Than Half Of All U.S. Adults Under Age 30 Now Reject Capitalism By Michael Snyder, on April 27th, 2016

Young People Abstract - Public DomainA shocking new survey has found that support for capitalism is dying in America. In fact, more than half of all adults in the United States under the age of 30 say that they do not support capitalism at this point. You might be tempted to dismiss them as “foolish young people”, but the truth is that they are the future of America. As older generations die off, they will eventually become the leaders of this country. And of course our nation has not resembled anything close to a capitalist society for quite some time now. In a recent article, I listed 97 different taxes that Americans pay each year, and some Americans actually end up returning more than half of what they earn to the government by the time it is all said and done. So at best it could be said that we are running some sort of hybrid system that isn’t as far down the road toward full-blown socialism as most European nations are. But without a doubt we are moving in that direction, and our young people are going to be cheering every step of the way.

When I first heard of this new survey from Harvard University, I was absolutely stunned. The following is from what the Washington Post had to say about it…

The Harvard University survey, which polled young adults between ages 18 and 29, found that 51 percent of respondents do not support capitalism. Just 42 percent said they support it.

It isn’t clear that the young people in the poll would prefer some alternative system, though. Just 33 percent said they supported socialism. The survey had a margin of error of 2.4 percentage points.

Could it be possible that young adults were confused by the wording of the survey?

Well, other polls have come up with similar results…

The university’s results echo recent findings from Republican pollster Frank Luntz, who surveyed 1,000 Americans between the ages of 18 and 26 and found that 58% of respondents believed socialism to be the “more compassionate” political system when compared to capitalism. And when participants were asked to sum up the root of America’s problem in one word, 29% said “greed.”

This trend among our young people is very real, and you can see it in their support of Bernie Sanders. For millions upon millions of young adults in America today, Hillary Clinton is not nearly liberal enough for them. So they have flocked to Sanders, and if they had been the only ones voting in this election season, he would have won the Democratic nomination by a landslide.

Sadly, most of our young people don’t seem to understand how socialism slowly but surely destroys a nation. If you want to see the end result of socialism, just look at the economic collapse that is going on in Venezuela right now. The following comes from a Bloomberg article entitled “Venezuela Doesn’t Have Enough Money to Pay for Its Money“…

Venezuela’s epic shortages are nothing new at this point. No diapers or car parts or aspirin — it’s all been well documented. But now the country is at risk of running out of money itself.

In a tale that highlights the chaos of unbridled inflation, Venezuela is scrambling to print new bills fast enough to keep up with the torrid pace of price increases. Most of the cash, like nearly everything else in the oil-exporting country, is imported. And with hard currency reserves sinking to critically low levels, the central bank is doling out payments so slowly to foreign providers that they are foregoing further business.

Venezuela, in other words, is now so broke that it may not have enough money to pay for its money.

We are losing an entire generation of young people. These days, there is quite a lot of talk about how we need to get America back to the principles that it was founded upon, but the cold, hard reality of the matter is that most of our young people are running in the opposite direction as fast as they can.

And Americans under the age of 30 are not just becoming more liberal when it comes to economics. Surveys have found that they are more than twice as likely to support gay rights and less than half as likely to regularly attend church as the oldest Americans are.

So why is this happening?

Well, the truth is that our colleges and universities have become indoctrination centers for the progressive movement. I know, because I spent eight years at public universities in this country. The quality of the education that our young people are receiving is abysmal, but the values that are being imparted to them will last a lifetime.

And of course the same things could be said about our system of education all the way down to the kindergarten level. There are still some good people in the system, but overall it is overwhelmingly dominated by the progressives.

Meanwhile, the major entertainment providers in the United States are also promoting the same values. In a recent article entitled “Depressing Survey Results Show How Extremely Stupid America Has Become“, I discussed a Nielsen report which detailed how much time the average American spends consuming media on various electronic devices each day…

Watching live television: 4 hours, 32 minutes

Watching time-shifted television: 30 minutes

Listening to the radio: 2 hours, 44 minutes

Using a smartphone: 1 hour, 33 minutes

Using Internet on a computer: 1 hour, 6 minutes

Overall, the average American spends about 10 hours a day consuming one form of entertainment or another.

When you allow that much “programming” into your mind, it is inevitable that it is going to shape your values, and our young people are more “plugged in” than any of the rest of us.

So yes, I believe that it is exceedingly clear why we should be deeply concerned about the future of America. The values that are being relentlessly pounded into the heads of our young people are directly opposed to the values that this nation was founded upon, and it is these young people that will determine the path that this country ultimately takes.

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#1. To: U don't know me (#0)

How would they know when most of them have never experienced it?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-04-28   21:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: U don't know me (#0)

our nation has not resembled anything close to a capitalist society for quite some time now

the average American spends about 10 hours a day consuming one form of entertainment or another.

If america does not resemble a capitalist society, it does not resemble a socialist society either. What we have here is post modernism gone mad, the idea we can have it all and do nothing but sleep and be entertained.

That america is moving away from capitalism and multinationalism is a good thing not a bad thing. Capitalism has concentrated the wealth in the hands of a few, the 1% within the 1%, and multinationalism has raped the other nations of the world, destroying incentive to develop their own industries and creating enemies

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-28   22:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: U don't know me (#0)

The Future Of America? – More Than Half Of All U.S. Adults Under Age 30 Now Reject Capitalism

Is there any wonder that there are 16 reasons why the United States is going to hell in a handbasket.

In the meantime, a survey finds the percent of Americans smoking weed has doubled since 2002.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-04-28   22:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: paraclete (#2)

That america is moving away from capitalism and multinationalism is a good thing not a bad thing. Capitalism has concentrated the wealth in the hands of a few, the 1% within the 1%, and multinationalism has raped the other nations of the world, destroying incentive to develop their own industries and creating enemies

Perfectly explained.

U don't know me  posted on  2016-04-28   22:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: paraclete (#2)

That america is moving away from capitalism and multinationalism is a good thing not a bad thing.

If it weren't for American capitalism the world will still be rebuilding the rubble of WWII.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-28   23:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: U don't know me, paraclete (#4)

Capitalism has concentrated the wealth in the hands of a few, the 1% within the 1%, and multinationalism has raped the other nations of the world, destroying incentive to develop their own industries and creating enemies

LMAO. Yeah, tell that to all the surfs and slaves of the world before capitalism ever showed up. The wealth of the world for thousands of years before capitalism was owned and/or controlled by far less than 1% of the population.

Nice try at rewriting history though. BTW, exactly how wealthy is the U.K. Royal family theses days? Or the Saudi Royal family? Or Putin and his henchmen?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-28   23:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: U don't know me (#0)

Could it be possible that young adults were confused by the wording of the survey?

They are confused about everything because they have been brainwashed back and forth continually until the have confused mush for minds.

rlk  posted on  2016-04-29   0:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: U don't know me (#0)

Could it be possible that young adults were confused by the wording of the survey?

They are confused about everything because they have been brainwashed back and forth continually until the have confused mush for minds. In the meantime, a survey finds the percent of Americans smoking weed has doubled since 2002 doesn't clarify their heads any.

rlk  posted on  2016-04-29   0:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SOSO (#5)

If it weren't for American capitalism the world will still be rebuilding the rubble of WWII.

You have to move away from this obscession with a glorious past. After destroying much of Europe and Japan, you helped rebuild it for a profit. Bully for you, as I said you raped the nations of the world. Tied aid does not suggest anything other than a profit motive, you got fat on war and reconstruction profits, a modus operandi you perfected in the civil war and were still using 100 years later, in the process your lend lease, didn't help with the reconstruction of Britain, you hastened its demise

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-29   0:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SOSO (#6)

BTW, exactly how wealthy is the U.K. Royal family theses days? Or the Saudi Royal family? Or Putin and his henchmen?

Don't forget the clintons, the champions of the common people who get a quarter million million dollars a half hour for speechs saying nothing.

rlk  posted on  2016-04-29   1:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: paraclete (#9)

After destroying much of Europe and Japan, you helped rebuild it for a profit.

The U.S. destroyed much of Europe? Are you serious? As for Japan, the only help in the Pacific that I recall came from your Land of OZ, the Kiwis, England, China, Phillipines, Canada. Are you really complaining that the U.S. bombed Japan into submission and kept you from speaking Japanese?

"Tied aid does not suggest anything other than a profit motive, you got fat on war and reconstruction profits, a modus operandi you perfected in the civil war and were still using 100 years later, in the process your lend lease, didn't help with the reconstruction of Britain, you hastened its demise."

What total BS. Aid tied to what? Just ask Germany and Japan about how they are both dominated by the U.S. who financed the rebuilding of their respective economies. Also ask the U.K., France and Russia just how much the U.S. dominates their respective economies. And while you are at it ask all of those USSR satellites just how well they fared under Russian domination after WWll.

The demise of the U.K. was of it's own doing and started by the U.K.'s headlong pursuit of nationalization shortly after the end of the war when they booted out Churchill.

As for OZ, my recollection is that your country embarked on a policy of mass immigration to bolster its population mainly taking in North Western Europeans. I don't recall you guys helping anybody else out in rebuilding their economies. Lastly WWII accelerated the development of Australia's manufacturing industry and bolstered its economy - something that you did not share with your WWII allies around the globe.

Yes, the U.S. was the only one standing after WWII that had the capability, will and interest in helping the world rebuild itself. BFD that we made some money at it. Their isn't a single participant in WWII that isn't fully independent of U.S. domination, much less control. I dare say that had the U.K., France, Russia, Japan, Germany, and, OZ had that sole benefactor position the independence of the rest of world economies would be severely more compromised.

BTW, how much foreign aid does Australia give each year?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-29   1:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rlk (#10)

Don't forget the clintons,

No, I truly wish to forget them. Unfortunately Trump has assured that the Billaries will be in the WH for another eight years - likely with DRat control of the Senate and thus SCOTUS.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-29   1:17:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: U don't know me (#0)

Sadly, most of our young people don’t seem to understand how socialism slowly but surely destroys a nation. If you want to see the end result of socialism, just look at the economic collapse that is going on in Venezuela right now. The following comes from a Bloomberg article entitled “Venezuela Doesn’t Have Enough Money to Pay for Its Money“…

Venezuela’s epic shortages are nothing new at this point. No diapers or car parts or aspirin — it’s all been well documented.

Mendacious propaganda for the naive.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-29   3:28:21 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#3)

In the meantime, a survey finds the percent of Americans smoking weed has doubled since 2002.

Or perhaps more people are willing to admit it in a survey?

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-29   3:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SOSO (#5)

If it weren't for American capitalism the world will still be rebuilding the rubble of WWII.

Would WWII take place?

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-29   3:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SOSO (#11)

I don't recall you guys helping anybody else out in rebuilding their economies.

A liile bit difficult to do when you don't have a strong economy, I lived in a place post war where power cuts were a frequent and daily occurence, where there were dirt roads, and public housing projects were needed to house the population, there was no capital to help out an enemy, we could barely help ourselves and it took twenty years for that economic miracle to arrive.

You seem to think that just because the war ended everything was great but the US did more for its enemies than it did for its allies, why, I cannot imagine. The people who's disgusting policies had laid waste Europe and parts of Asia we given a hand up while you decended into paraniod Mccarthyism and a cold war with a former ally

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-29   4:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A Pole (#15)

If it weren't for American capitalism the world will still be rebuilding the rubble of WWII.

Would WWII take place?

You are kidding, right?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-29   11:36:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: paraclete, A Pole (#16)

You seem to think that just because the war ended everything was great but the US did more for its enemies than it did for its allies, why, I cannot imagine.

Hardly. Things weren't all that great for Americans right after the war as well.

"US did more for its enemies than it did for its allies, why, I cannot imagine."

Now you are bitching because the U.S. didn't pour money into your country? How much blood and treasure did OZ lose in the war? HINT: A fraction of what the U.S. did. And exactly who kept the sh*t eating Bear off the backs of our allies and most of the rest of the world, mostly at our expense, for decades thereafter? And what did we demand in return? HINT: Nothing. The only land that the U.S. has in France is were the bodies of our soldiers are buried.

Next you will join asshole A Pole and claim that the U.S. started WWII.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-29   11:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: U don't know me (#0)

So why is this happening?

Well, the truth is that our colleges and universities have become indoctrination centers for the progressive movement.

Another reason it's happening is that globalist corporate leaders hijacked the idea of capitalism to justify open borders and "free trade" - so they could further fatten their wallets by gutting the middle class of a U.S. for which they care nothing.

A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-04-29   11:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SOSO (#18)

Next you will join asshole A Pole

Do not insult me.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-29   13:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A Pole (#20)

Next you will join asshole A Pole

Do not insult me.

Then don't act like an asshole by asking asshole questions. Where do you come off implying that the U.S. was the cause of WWII? That itself is insulting so you deserve what you got.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-29   14:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SOSO (#21)

You are not fit for a civilized reasonable debate.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-29   14:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A Pole (#22)

You are not fit for a civilized reasonable debate.

All you are is an ankle biting bomb throwing snake in the grass. You make a stupid comment that the U.S. started WWII then run like a little chicken sh*t girl when asked to defend your remark. You are correct I am not fit for civilized reasonable debate WITH YOU as you are a BS coward, Boris, and will call you out on that every time.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-29   16:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: SOSO (#23)

You said: "If it weren't for American capitalism the world will still be rebuilding the rubble of WWII."

I said: "Would WWII take place?"

If America did not get involved in the FIRST world war and Wilson did not try his experiment with setting a new order in Europe (including financial system informed by the FED), very likely history would go a very different way. Possibly better, possibly worse. We will never know.

Once you get involved, you own it to the extent you got involved. Both good and better outcomes.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-29   20:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A Pole (#24)

If America did not get involved in the FIRST world war and Wilson did not try his experiment with setting a new order in Europe (including financial system informed by the FED), very likely history would go a very different way.

Now you are blaming the U.S. for WWI? Piss off, moron.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-04-29   21:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SOSO (#18) (Edited)

Next you will join asshole A Pole and claim that the U.S. started WWII.

Listen dickhead don't project your crap on me.

OZ lost a lot in WWII, Darwin had to be rebuilt, we gave ourselves selflessly to the defense of Britain only to be betrayed, why would we rebuild Europe when we needed to rebuild ourselves, no we offered the displaced a home and a fresh start away from the crap. You can't spend your money twice, a lesson the US hasn't learned

Don't tell me how much the US lost, you lost Pearl Harbour but you didn't have the Japs on your doorstep with nothing but a few illtrained teenagers to hold them back. Your forces were still there available to defend your country, sitting on their duff while the world burned

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-29   22:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: paraclete (#9)

After destroying much of Europe and Japan, you helped rebuild it for a profit.

Who was it that offered contracts to participate in the work of rebuilding? Who profitted exactly? I notice you have a penchant for declaring other people or organizations who offer their services for a price are always guilty of rape or greed. Why is that? Do you expect other people to work for free? Why are you always so resentful?

rlk  posted on  2016-04-30   0:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: SOSO (#25)

Now you are blaming the U.S. for WWI? Piss off, moron

I said "involved", not "started". (at the end).

You did not know it?

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-30   2:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: rlk (#27)

Do you expect other people to work for free?

I don't expect anything for free however, a fair price and not profiteering

paraclete  posted on  2016-04-30   2:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: paraclete (#29)

I don't expect anything for free however, a fair price and not profiteering

Profiteering. There's a new negative word in addition to the others you use. Tell me who made excess profits in rebuilding ruined post-war nations and where did they come from?

rlk  posted on  2016-04-30   4:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: rlk (#30)

Poland was rebuilt with Polish hands, not with American money.

You worship America as she were God.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-30   5:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A Pole (#28)

Now you are blaming the U.S. for WWI? Piss off, moron

I said "involved", not "started". (at the end).

You did not know it?

WWII start with the signing of the Treaty of Versailles. What you seem not to know is that Wilson argued against the other allies to take revenge on Germany by driving Germany into the dust with harsh, if not impossible, terms retribution. The facts are that the treaty was perceived by many as too great a departure from U.S. President Wilson's 14 Points, and, also by the British as too harsh in its treatment of Germany.

If you want to play the What IF game, then WWII would have be avoided had those seeking vengeance and harsh retribution not prevailed over Wilson's counsel. How about discussing the role the Bolsheviks played in starting WWI and thereafter? One of the main reasons the U.S. was dragged into WWI was that the Bolsheviks pull out and left a big void in the European fight against Germany.

A history lesson just for you, Boris."

"Many Americans saw US involvement in WWI as a waste of time. From the very beginning it was not particularly popular. When the war ended many Americans saw a Europe that had changed little. Men had died, sacrifices made...and for what. America had walked into the ring of international diplomacy and affairs and received a bloody nose for our efforts. The result was a disillusionment with world affairs. The result of this disillusionment was a fundamental shift in American policy from internationalism to relative isolationism.

Everywhere one found a strong impulse to return to old isolationist ways. Wilson's inspiring leadership had keyed the American people to a spirit of self sacrifice that had even resulted in the prohibition of alcoholic beverages. But this was all changing. Victory had brought an emotional letdown - "the slump of idealism." It had also brought a profound disillusionment with the imperialistic and bickering Allies. The war to make the world safe for democracy [also known as the war to end all wars] had not made the world safe for democracy, nor had it ended wars. Some twenty conflicts of varying dimensions were being waged in various parts of the world. About all that America had seemingly derived (gotten) from the war was debt, inflation, prohibition, influenza, and ingratitude from Allies whom she had strained herself to help - while of course, helping to defeat a common enemy.

I. The U.S. Turns Away From The World

A. What were Wilson's arguments in favor of ratification of the Treaty of Versailles?

1. The future of world peace is at stake.

2. The League of Nations is the future of solving world problems.

3. Failure to be involved places us and the world in danger. The US must have a place at the table to take a leadership role.

B. What were the arguments given against ratification and in favor of isolation?

1. League of nations would create new contacts.

2. Contacts breed involvement.

3. Involvement meant war.

4. League of Nations might be able to control US military personnel

C. What happened?

1. The Treaty as you can imagine received enormous opposition. Henry Cabot Lodge and Alfred Beveridge strongly denounced the treaty, especially Article Ten which called upon the US to support League actions. Wilson campaigned vigorously and gave 37 speeches in 29 cities in a span of only three weeks. He declared that US soldiers should not have died in vain. After a dramatic speech in Colorado Wilson collapsed. His health had been poor for sic months and the strain of the trip was too much. He was rushed back to Washington and a few days later had a massive stroke. For the next year and a half he was incapable of running the government but was protected by his wife and closest advisors.

1. In March 1920 the US Senate finally killed the treaty. The United States did not ratify the Treaty of Versailles and we did not join the League of Nations. Wilson considered this a great failure and it plagued him until his death.

Disgust was deepening. Hundreds of thousands of American boys were returning from Europe, irritated by cheating French shopkeepers, and most favorably impressed by the blonde German girls. American's everywhere were saying that Europe could jolly well "stew in its own juice." In the face of such wide spread disillusionment Wilson would have troubles in arousing people again.

-Thomas A. Bailey, Historian

Woodrow Wilson defending the Treaty of Versailles

I want to remind you how the permanency of peace is at the heart of this treaty. This is not merely a treaty of peace with Germany... it is nothing less than world settlement, and at the center of that stands the covenant for the future we call the Covenant of the League of Nations. Without it the treaty can not be worked and without it it is a mere temporary arrangement with Germany. The covenant of the League of Nations is the instrumentality (means) for the maintenance of peace.

If the treaty is not ratified by the Senate, the war will have been fought in vain, and the world will be thrown into chaos. I promised our soldiers, when I asked them to take up arms, that it was a war to end wars...

-Pres. Woodrow Wilson

The Opposition

The question before us is whether the League that has been drafted by the Commission of the Peace Conference and laid before us is will it secure the peace of the world as it stands, and whether it is just and fair to the United States of America. That is the question and I want to bring it to the test.

Wars between nations come form contacts. A nation with which we have no contact is a nation with which we should never fight... In this scheme for a League now before us we create a number of new contact, a number of new relations, which we have not undertaken before to create.

-Senator Henry Cabot Lodge, Massachusetts

We are told that this treaty means peace. Even so, I would not pay the price. Would you purchase peace at the cost of you independence?

-Senator William E. Borah, Idaho

The League of Nations is the work "amiable old male grannies who, over their afternoon tea, are planning to denationalize America and denationalize the nations manhood."

-Senator Albert Beveridge, Indiana

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SOSO  posted on  2016-04-30   13:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: paraclete (#26)

Don't tell me how much the US lost, you lost Pearl Harbour but you didn't have the Japs on your doorstep with nothing but a few illtrained teenagers to hold them back. Your forces were still there available to defend your country, sitting on their duff while the world burned

LMAO. Our duff was large enough to save yours. You'd be speaking Japanese to me right now had it not been for the U.S. duff.

It is amazing how in 60-70 years you ill trained of the world forget how you were able to avoid being conquered and subsequently prosper while the U.S. shielded you from the Big Bear hunting in your woods.

F*ck off, mate. The blood and treasure of the U.S. lost in WWII paid for the freedom, prosperity and ingratitude you enjoy today. That said, the world has been and is a much better place for the strong ally relationship among the U.S., UK, OZ and Canada. This in spite of the egregious racism and bigotry existing in OZ even today.

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SOSO  posted on  2016-04-30   14:02:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: SOSO (#32)

What you seem not to know is that Wilson argued against the other allies to take revenge on Germany by driving Germany into the dust with harsh, if not impossible, terms retribution.

Yes, but without American involvement France and England would have to agree for more equitable peace treaty.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-30   14:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SOSO (#33)

treasure of the U.S. lost in WWII paid for the freedom, prosperity

America is the center of the Universe. Indispensable nation. That is why the nations closest to her in Latin America and Caribbeans that were under American supervision are so prosperous.

Germans and Swiss got more money, Italy and Greece got less, that is why the later were poor for decades.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-30   14:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A Pole, rlk, All (#31)

You worship America as she were God.

With ample justification as it was America that was the prime engine in rebuilding the world left in rubble by WWII. No-one else had the capacity, will and integrity to do so at that time. The U.S. could just as easily told the rest of the world to kiss off and fend for themself. We didn't. And we didn't demand anything in return. Even our enemies prospered after the war. We took no territory, demanded no retribution (as the European Allies did after WWI), and, helped our enemies rebuild their societies. What did Russia do after WWII? Enslaved tens of millions of people, that's what.

Certainly the world has changed in 70 years since WWII and the U.S. skirts haven't always been clean. But in the vast scale of things no other nation on the planet would have been as less demanding of tribute and less controlling of world affairs than the U.S. Certainly not Russia and not just about all of Western Europe.

God? No. But certainly a dynamic benevolent force for betterment on the planet, more so than any other country in history. The cry of "America First" (whatever that means) is still being argued internally across the political spectrum. And tell me exactly how do all the rest of the countries on the planet deal with hordes of uninvited illegals crossing their borders and embedding themselves in the fabric of their society?

There is no doubt that America is on the decline and has been for awhile now. You believe that that is a good thing. History definitively proves you wrong.

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SOSO  posted on  2016-04-30   14:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: U don't know me (#0)

The university’s results echo recent findings from Republican pollster Frank Luntz, who surveyed 1,000 Americans between the ages of 18 and 26 and found that 58% of respondents believed socialism to be the “more compassionate” political system when compared to capitalism.

They should be sent off to enjoy a socialist paradise for a while. They will tire of the government being more compassionate with their money.

nolu chan  posted on  2016-04-30   15:01:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nolu chan (#37)

They should be sent off to enjoy a socialist paradise for a while. 

You should be sent to some capitalist paradise in Africa or maybe in Latin America. Unfortunately the later got ruined to some extent by the socialists.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-30   16:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A Pole (#34)

Yes, but without American involvement France and England would have to agree for more equitable peace treaty.

In other words they would have lost the war. Well OK then.

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SOSO  posted on  2016-04-30   18:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A Pole (#35)

That is why the nations closest to her in Latin America and Caribbeans that were under American supervision are so prosperous.

What nations would those be?

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SOSO  posted on  2016-04-30   18:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: SOSO (#40)

What nations would those be?

The ones that have pure free market and no socialism. No public health care, no public education, no safety net, no trade unions, etc ...

Make your pick and move there.

A Pole  posted on  2016-04-30   18:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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