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Title: Trump: If abortion is banned, there has to be some form of punishment for women who do it
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/ ... unishment-for-women-who-do-it/
Published: Mar 30, 2016
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2016-03-30 17:16:58 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 41138
Comments: 274

Charles Cooke calls this an ideological Turing test, i.e. a question whose answer reveals how plausible it is that Trump really is who he claims to be. The standard answer from nearly all serious pro-lifers is that it’s the abortionist, not his patient, who should be sanctioned if and when abortion is banned. The March of Life explains why:
“Mr. Trump’s comment today is completely out of touch with the pro-life movement and even more with women who have chosen such a sad thing as abortion,” said Jeanne Mancini, President of the March for Life Education and Defense Fund. “Being pro-life means wanting what is best for the mother and the baby. Women who choose abortion often do so in desperation and then deeply regret such a decision. No pro-lifer would ever want to punish a woman who has chosen abortion. This is against the very nature of what we are about. We invite a woman who has gone down this route to consider paths to healing, not punishment.”

Ted Cruz, when he’s inevitably asked about this now, will give some variation of that same response. Trump, whom his conservative critics suspect of being an opportunist on abortion rather than committed to the cause, went a different route. You can almost see the wheels turning in his head here: He knows, as a political matter, that he can’t let Cruz get to his right on abortion. Republicans will let him slide on a lot — a lot — but if he gives them reason to think he’s BSing them on an issue at the very core of social conservatism, it could give Cruz the break he needs to take off. And so, when he gets the question from Matthews about what to do with women who insist on having abortions in a hypothetical future where the practice is banned, he goes with his gut — and his gut is “stay to the right.” So … sure, let’s punish women for abortion. This is the message the party’s carrying into the general election against the first woman major-party nominee, huh? By a guy who’s already having major problems polling among women, no less.

It’s easy to understand how an amateur would stumble into this answer, writes Matt Lewis, but why would you want to nominate an amateur?
In truth, like the notion that there should be exceptions for rape and incest, the notion that only the abortion doctor (not the woman having the abortion) should face penalties, is inconsistent with the notion that “abortion is murder.”

Yet these political compromises are necessary in order to cobble together a palatable and defensible (if admittedly inconsistent) public policy position that might someday actually be able to win the argument in mainstream America.

Part of the goal is to remove the ability for pro-choicers to demagogue the issue by scaring vulnerable women. Now, thanks to Trump, that’s back on the table.

Trump’s already trying to walk it back even though the townhall with Matthews from which this was clipped hasn’t aired yet:
#Trump campaign issues brief statement on #abortion: pic.twitter.com/jJFhzmHP5W

— Sarah McCammon NPR (@sarahmccammon) March 30, 2016

Hillary’s already attacking him over it. So is Team Cruz, as you’ll see in the second clip below. Trump can run from it but it’s on tape and every down-ballot Republican will wear it now if he’s the nominee. And the best part, as one Twitter pal said, is that Trump will eventually (“eventually” as in “probably within the next few hours”) deny that he ever said it to begin with. Still think this is all part of a master strategy or could it be that he really is winging it?

Cruz campaign: Cruz focuses on punishing those who perform abortions, not women who get them https://t.co/GRrUbWpzGE https://t.co/7am5Tcd7AG

— The Lead CNN (@TheLeadCNN) March 30, 2016


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The next Trump scandal.

This will keep Vannity and Coulter and the other Mini-Me's busy Trumpsplaining it away for the next few days.

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#3. To: TooConservative, *Arab Spring Jihad* (#0)

It's Sharia Trump Law, with The Donald casting the first stone.

Hondo68  posted on  2016-03-30   17:48:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#3)

You're a pro abortion faggot lover who wants open borders. That is why you support that liberal as wipe Gay Johnson.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-30   17:55:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone, hondo68 (#5)

You're a pro abortion faggot lover

Your views are firmly in line with those of radical muslims.

Saudi government ‘wants to EXECUTE gay people who show their sexuality in public & online'

You may just get this with Trump as president.

Deckard  posted on  2016-03-30   19:15:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deckard (#41)

You're a pro abortion faggot lover Your views are firmly in line with those of radical muslims.

Let the record show that Decktard thinks that it is ok to murder babies and the mother shouldn't be punished.

You are the one who is in line with Muslims.

They think the same as you do about the great country the United States of America.

Why shouldn't someone who kills their kid be punished.

So Decard thinks you can drown your kid in a bath tub and you shouldn't be punished for it. That is sick decktard.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-30   19:18:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#44)

Let the record show that Decktard thinks that it is ok to murder babies and the mother shouldn't be punished.

Please post one link to where I ever said it was OK to murder babies.

What, you mean you can't find one single instance?

Then shut your dick-holster you lying POS.

You are the one who is in line with Muslims.

I'm not the one who wants to kill the faggots.

So Decard thinks you can drown your kid in a bath tub and you shouldn't be punished for it.

More lies.

Typical insanity from the site owner.

Deckard  posted on  2016-03-30   19:24:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Deckard (#52)

ou're a pro abortion faggot lover Your views are firmly in line with those of radical muslims.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-30   19:27:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#53)

ou're a pro abortion faggot lover

Post ONE LINK that backs up your spurious claims.

The fact is that you can't.

That makes you a liar.

I just don't want to join you in waging a jihad on "faggots".

Deckard  posted on  2016-03-30   19:32:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#61. To: Deckard (#57)

I don't think they should kill fags ok.

I don't agree with gay marriage but I don't support murdering anyone.

I support the death penalty for abortion.

If it is a life then it is murder. That is science.

You sound like you come from the dark ages.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-30 19:36:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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