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Title: Dirty tricks?
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Published: Mar 26, 2016
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Post Date: 2016-03-26 23:31:18 by Justified
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I have been thinking about the wife bashing and cheating accusations. This has all the ear marks of the gop elites trying to bring down both the leaders at the same time.

I was wondering if anyone else had the same thoughts?

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#9. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Perhaps Cruz pushed the Melina Trump story because he knew this was about to break.

You keep acting like it was some big secret. Those photos of Naughty Melania have been around all over the place for the last fifteen years.

Get over it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-27   11:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Justified (#7)

Thats kinda been my fear with these two thrashing each other in such a manor. GOP establishment will creep in and take over and destroy the movement like they did with President Reagan.

I think the GOPe would rather tank the election to Hitlery than let Trump take over.

They might tolerate Cruz, mostly because they think the Xlinton machine would beat him anyway. He's not very appealing as a retail pol, even against Shrillary.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-27   11:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#4)

Not if they believe Trump was the one doing this.

I heard it was Rubio's crew that have their finger prints all over this stuff. Which means GOP establishment is pulling the strings. With Jeb and company in Cruz's side im waiting for them to pull their dirty tricks if they haven't already.

Justified  posted on  2016-03-27   11:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#10)

Thats why they are infiltrating both camps to sabotage them from the inside.

IMHO

It took them 8 years to get control back from the conservative libertarian base and they would rather tank the election again to keep us out.

I sound like deckard now! LOL

Justified  posted on  2016-03-27   11:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#1)

And we just know a tweet can't be faked.

I remember a few months ago people sending out fake Trump tweets insulting people. Which were believable but false.

Do you find it curious that one week we have a Super Pac not affiliated with Cruz releasing semi nude photos already in public domain and a week later unknown sources feeding a tabloid adultery allegations on Cruz?

What was the result? The two front running candidates are at each other's throats and Hitlery is out of the news cycle.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-27   11:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#3)

Cruz did not push the story. An establishment anti Trump Pac did.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-27   11:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#14)

Cruz did not push the story. An establishment anti Trump Pac did.

Cruz was my favorite for a long long time. Years.

But truthfully we don't know if they coordinate. Maybe they do, maybe they don't.

Also I don't think that tweet was faked.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-27   12:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#9)

Get over it.

Over what?

I could care less.

Cruz's wife is a new world order supporter.

Cruz supports global trade deals that undermine our sovereignty. Just like Bush.

Get over Ted Cruz, he isn't the answer. He does a lot of good stuff but he has a big new world order trade flaw.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-27   12:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#9)

You keep acting like it was some big secret. Those photos of Naughty Melania have been around all over the place for the last fifteen years.

Get over it.

They were photos for a magazine cover shoot. Published all over the world.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-27   12:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Justified (#11)

I heard it was Rubio's crew that have their finger prints all over this stuff.

I heard the Easter Bunny was going to be hiding eggs all over your yard today. Have you found any yet?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-27   12:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#18)

Had quite a many eggs on the back lawn this morning so it's true! :)

Unfortunately had to condemn one of the candy filled plastic devices due to one of my dogs dropping a land mine.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-27   13:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Wow at 5:22 am she knows he is in a fun mood.

What capacity did she serve in?

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-27   13:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: redleghunter (#19)

Unfortunately had to condemn one of the candy filled plastic devices due to one of my dogs dropping a land mine.

Ok,so you have one you can give to the neighborhood kid that irritates you the most.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-03-27   13:48:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#17)

They were photos for a magazine cover shoot. Published all over the world.

They were still top secret and no one would have ever known about Nudie Melania if those dirty anti-Trump PAC people hadn't reminded them. No, the Xlinton machine would never have brought those up.

And you're a bad bad man for thinking otherwise.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-27   13:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: redleghunter (#14)

An establishment anti Trump Pac did.

The Trumpsters act like this was a Cruz PAC.

It wasn't. It was an anti-Trump PAC, nothing more.

Many of these PACs are just funnels for a lot of money, often run by operatives from campaigns that already quit. For instance, Jesse Benton and some others are running a big PAC now, even after Rand dropped out. They are just a funnel for tycoons to throw money into the race. Otherwise, these campaign pros would be unemployed for this election season now that their candidate has dropped out.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-27   13:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: sneakypete, Justified, redleghunter, TooConservative, AKA Stone (#18)

I heard it was Rubio's crew that have their finger prints all over this stuff.

That was reported in various sources that Rubio was shopping this information to various publications and internet sites that refused to publish .

Trump tweeted that The NE got the John Edwards story right. Therefore the allegations against Cruz are right.

But the NE owner David Pecker (the perfect name for the owner of the sleaze publication)is a Trump supporter . The paper has already endorsed his candidacy ,has given Trump space to author his own articles .Pecker has prohibited his reporters to publish any dirt on Trump. The tabloid only publishes glowing tributes to Trump.

Pecker has also allowed the publication to be a venue for Trump generated smears of his rivals Ben Carson.

They have accused Jeb Bush of having an affair with a Playboy Bunny ,and that he was involved in the drug trade in Florida.

When Carley Fiorina spoke emotionally about her daughter's drug issues ,the Enquirer's headline was “Homewrecker Carly Fiorina Lied About Druggie Daughter.”

It looks like we've come full circle and are back to the sleaze days of the 1800 Jefferson v Adams campaign.

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-27   14:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tomder55 (#24)

So unlike the Edwards story the Cruz allegations have not been confirmed independently?

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-27   14:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: TooConservative (#9)

"Those photos of Naughty Melania have been around all over the place for the last fifteen years."

True. And they're tame enough to post, as is, in the newspapers.

The photos aren't the issue. The issue is that a photo was used in a smear campaign by Cruz supporters to sway Utah Christians to vote for Cruz.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-27   14:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tomder55 (#24)

"But the NE owner David Pecker ... is a Trump supporter"

Perfect. I'm looking forward to a future National Enquirer story about the writers at National Review.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-27   15:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#18)

I heard it was Rubio's crew that have their finger prints all over this stuff.

I heard the Easter Bunny was going to be hiding eggs all over your yard today. Have you found any yet?

Ted Cruz sex scandal story leaked to National Enquirer by Marco Rubio “ally,” not Donald Trump, report says

Maybe Donald Trump isn’t behind the Ted Cruz “sex scandal” story leak to the National Enquirer after all.

According to The Daily Beast, “for months and months, anti-Cruz operatives have pitched a variety of #CruzSexScandal stories to a host of prominent national publications.”

One such outlet was Breitbart News, which was shown “a compilation video of Cruz and a woman other than his wife coming out of the Capitol Grille restaurant and a hotel on Tuesdays and Thursdays,” a source inside the publication told The Daily Beast. (Leave it to a politician to keep a standardized booty call schedule.)

The Breibart source confirmed that they’d received the video from “a Rubio ally,” but ultimately decided against running the story because, “There was no way to verify the claims.”

Cruz today issued a statement more or less implying Trump and “his political henchmen” planted the Enquirer expose.

Trump, for his part, denied Cruz’s counter-allegations, maintaining his ignorance of the whole thing while ham-handedly throwing jabs at “Lyin’ Ted Cruz.”

“I have nothing to do with the National Enquirer,” Trump wrote in a statement posted to his Facebook page, “and unlike Lyin’ Ted Cruz I do not surround myself with political hacks and henchman and then pretend total innocence.”

Absent in this still-unfolding story is a motive for a Rubio “ally” — whatever that means — to run a smear campaign against Cruz, unless it’s true and the suspended Rubio campaign anointed itself the role of morality police.

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Maybe you need to look for Easter Bunny in your yard! ;)

Justified  posted on  2016-03-27   15:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All (#28)

I still think the GOP establishment is in on it. These guys are the biggest POS and would stop at nothing to derail Trump and Cruz in hopes of putting their guy in to "save the party and country".

Justified  posted on  2016-03-27   15:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Justified (#28)

Maybe Donald Trump isn’t behind the Ted Cruz “sex scandal” story leak to the National Enquirer after all.

Well, Trump's main spokeswoman is one of those alleged to have had an affair with Cruz. So unless they're throwing her under the bus just to get at Cruz, it doesn't make a lot of sense. But Cruz sleeping with a Trump mouthpiece would fit nicely for Rubio and his crew.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-27   16:31:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Justified, redleghunter, misterwhite, sneakypete, calcon, tomder55 (#28)

A hot interview of Trump by WaPo.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-27   16:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: redleghunter (#25) (Edited)

So unlike the Edwards story the Cruz allegations have not been confirmed independently?

Not at this point . Major media sources would not touch the story when Rubio was peddling it (they called the story "The Thing").Major news outlets that looked into the rumor before or after its publication haven’t substantiated the claims. Two of the women identified in the story, Katrina Pierson and CNN contributor Amanda Carpenter, denied the allegations .

Also John Edwards confirmed the story about him as true before it stopped being a rumor .

Meanwhile ,as you know ,I've always taken the position that whoever the Republicans selected ,the choice was clear that the Republican was the better candidate .

But after watching this campaign I am pretty sure that under no circumstances can I vote for Donald Trump. John Hawkins @ Town Hall makes the case better than I can.

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/03/26/no-i-will-not- vote-for-donald-j-trump-in-a-general-election-n2139340

I will not vote for Evita or Bolshevik Bernie either ,so most likely I'll leave the choice for President blank on my ballot .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-27   16:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: misterwhite (#26)

The issue is that a photo was used in a smear campaign by Cruz supporters to sway Utah Christians to vote for Cruz.

Are Mormons Christians?

Is rMoney really a Mormon?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-03-27   16:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TooConservative, justified, redleghunter, misterwhite, sneakypete tomder55 (#31) (Edited)

gee, why would I think this none politician can fix America

filthyrichstar.com/2016/0...iest-and-richest-star-so- far/

calcon  posted on  2016-03-27   16:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: misterwhite (#27)

I'm looking forward to a future National Enquirer story about the writers at National Review.

A postmortem.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-03-27   17:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Justified (#29)

“I have nothing to do with the National Enquirer,” Trump wrote in a statement posted to his Facebook page, “and unlike Lyin’ Ted Cruz I do not surround myself with political hacks and henchman and then pretend total innocence.”

Trump has a long history with the Enquirer. Trump has a long association with NE boss Pecker . Trump invited Pecker to his 2005 wedding .Pecker attended an exclusive Elton John concert the following year at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. In early 2013, Pecker appointed David Hughes, a top executive at Trump Entertainment Resorts, to American Media’s board of directors. Later that year, Trump pitched Pecker to lead Time magazine. The Enquirer endorsed Trump and has run hit pieces on all his opponents throughout the campaign ;going so far as to accuse Ben Carson of leaving a surgical sponge in a patients head. In contrast ,the Enquirer has an exclusive interview with Trump at the beginning of the campaign ;and has run adulation puff articles about him ever since .

“and unlike Lyin’ Ted Cruz I do not surround myself with political hacks and henchman and then pretend total innocence.” Total lie . He has had Roger Stone ,a notorious dirty trickster skulking around his campaign from the start . The only person on record in the whole Enquirer story is Roger Stone . Officially Trump dismissed Stone in August . Unofficially Stone has been a key advisor to the Trump campaign.

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-03-27   17:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: calcon (#34)

gee, why would I think this none politician can fix America

Will you have Trump shock when he is not all you think he is? It was 2nd Bush's Iraq move that made me start second guessing him. It was 1st bush's read my lips that made me start second guessing him. I wonder what it will be for you when Trump is elected and does next to nothing(which by the way is still a good thing) he claims.

To many Trump supporters have an exaggerated view of what he can do and it will be devastating to you when he does not live up to what you thought he would be.

After 30 plus years of watching politics I have learned to get my expectations very low! Even President Reagan had to fight his own party just to get anywhere.

Justified  posted on  2016-03-27   17:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: tomder55, All (#36)

Looks as if the story on Cruz comes from the Rubio camp and the Trump story came from the carly fiorina.

Justified  posted on  2016-03-27   17:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: tomder55 (#36)

Trump has a long history with the Enquirer.

Just another item on the laundry list. Associating with Nixonian con man Roger Stone (recall his swinger parties and ads, his dirty spoiler campaigns as a hired political gun, and infamous "Stone's Rules") is a typical sample of the kinds of people that Trump has chosen to associate with over the decades.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-27   17:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: tomder55 (#32) (Edited)

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/03/26/no-i-will-not- vote-for-donald-j-trump-in-a-general-election-n2139340

Even a few percent of GOP voters in close states that feel the same way would flip the election to Hitlery.

The Trump people behave like a cult. And Teh Donald behaves like a cult leader. They're downright creepy about him. Based on what exactly that he has done, I have no idea.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-03-27   17:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: TooConservative (#39)

The geezer wants us to vote for people who want to legalize heroin.

Get a grip geezer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-03-27   19:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: misterwhite (#26)

The issue is that a photo was used in a smear campaign

"noun: smear; a false accusation intended to damage someone's reputation." Where's the falsehood in this alleged "smear'? Was that not really Melania?

ConservingFreedom  posted on  2016-03-27   19:13:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: redleghunter (#8)

" In more sane times there would be a challenge with pistols and paces. "

Maybe we need to go back to that.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-27   20:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TooConservative (#40)

" The Trump people behave like a cult. "

That pretty much describes a lot of Cruz supporters, like Glen Beck & his toadys, and Mark Levin.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There are no Carthaginian terrorists.

President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people. --Clint Eastwood

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2016-03-27   21:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: tomder55 (#32)

But after watching this campaign I am pretty sure that under no circumstances can I vote for Donald Trump. John Hawkins @ Town Hall makes the case better than I can.

Leaning the same way. Tough decision not going to make it now. I believe in redemption. I'm going to have to see it.

The thought of the Arkansas mafia back in the seat in charge of the intelligence and defense community gives me great pause.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-27   21:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: ConservingFreedom (#42)

noun: smear; a false accusation intended to damage someone's reputation." Where's the falsehood in this alleged "smear'? Was that not really Melania?

If she has a twin sister, single men and Enquiring minds want to know....

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-03-27   22:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: ConservingFreedom (#42)

smear campaign
noun
1. a campaign to tarnish the reputation of a public figure, especially by vilification or innuendo.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-27   22:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: TooConservative (#31)

Is this where you, like many Americans, get their news?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-27   22:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Fred Mertz (#33)

"Are Mormons Christians?"

You prefer to debate that instead? Start another thread. Then wait for me to show up.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-03-27   22:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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