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Title: Trump Promises Harsh Media Criticism of Him Will Be ILLEGAL If He’s President (TITLE IS FALSE HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY SAY THAT)
Source: Counter Current News
URL Source: http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/ ... legal-if-he-becomes-president/
Published: Feb 27, 2016
Author: M. David
Post Date: 2016-02-27 11:46:16 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 14327
Comments: 68

Have you ever made fun of Donald Trump? Have you ever read an editorial that really lays into him with criticisms of his proposed policies, or even his hair?

Well if Trump becomes president, he promises that things will change, and these sorts of critiques will no longer be legal.

It almost sounds like satire, but during a speech in Texas on Friday morning, the Republican candidate and frontrunner, Donald Trump said he wants to sue news outlets if they negative stories about him.

He acknowledged that currently the First Amendment of the Constitution protects a free press, and thus shields journalists from suits like this.

But Trump said on Friday that he would limit the press using litigation that would be permitted due to “opening up” libel laws and allowing them to include things like criticism and critiques that he doesn’t like.

“I think the media is among the most dishonest groups of people I’ve ever met,” Trump stated. “They’re terrible.”

So Trump promised to change things through legislating what he considers “honest reporting.”

“One of the things I’m gonna do, and this is only gonna make it tougher for me, and I’ve never said this before, but one of the things I’m gonna do if I win… is I’m gonna open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money. We’re gonna open up those libel laws.”

He went even further and made it clear what he meant, saying, “We’re gonna open up those libel laws, folks, and we’re gonna have people sue you like you never get sued before.”

See if for yourself in the video clip below…

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

The 1st Amendment (written to restrict Congressional legislation only) didn't created a preferred class for purposes of libel and slander. The New York Times has no greater 1st Amendment rights in that regard than Joe Sixpack.

Try actually reading it someday.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   11:54:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

Certainly he's right about media bias, but he's wrong about the solution.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-27   11:58:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Roscoe (#1)

"He (Trump) acknowledged that currently the First Amendment of the Constitution protects a free press, and thus shields journalists from suits like this."

Seems to me that Communist regimes have similar laws against criticism of public figures.

Trump is sounding more and more like a dictator.

Must be why statists like you and whitey like him so much.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   12:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Roscoe (#1)

"The 1st Amendment (written to restrict Congressional legislation only) didn't created a preferred class for purposes of libel and slander."

Sure it did. It clearly says that the press can write lies about you if you're a public figure. The U.S. Supreme Court found it hiding in a penumbra.

I'm with Trump on this one. Get rid of the "public figure" exemption and hold the press responsible for negligent behavior. All other countries do it.

And, prior to 1967, so did the United States.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-27   12:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#3)

thus shields journalists

Shields everyone against Congressional restrictions, not just leftist journalists.

Strike two.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   12:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#4)

Get rid of the "public figure" exemption

Cruz and Rubio would wind up penniless from their libels and slanders in this campaign alone.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   12:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Roscoe, misterwhite (#6)

The funny thing is that you two partisan puppets would be against this had it been proposed by Hillary.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   12:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Deckard (#7)

had it been proposed by Hillary.

When has your beloved Hillary ever proposed abiding by original intent?

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   12:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Roscoe (#6)

"Cruz and Rubio would wind up penniless from their libels and slanders in this campaign alone."

In the age of the Internet there is no excuse to not know something. And if the press doesn't know, it shouldn't be published as fact. Just one example of what was reported in the press that Rubio gladly regurgitated:

“If you hadn’t inherited $200 million, you’d be selling selling watches on the streets of Manhattan.”

First, Fred Trump Sr. died in 1999. By then, Trump was already a billionaire. Second, when Fred Trump Sr. died, his estate was worth $20 million and that was divided among his 4 surviving children. Third, Trump admits that his father loaned him $1 million back in the 60's to start his business -- money which he paid back.

Good people have fought and died in wars to preserve this version of "freedom of the press"?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-27   13:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#9)

The idea of libel and slander laws being enforced terrifies Deckard.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   13:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#7)

"had it been proposed by Hillary."

Hillary would never propose a return to constitutional law.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-27   13:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#9)

www.arkansasmatters.com/live/

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   13:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Roscoe (#10)

The idea of libel and slander laws being enforced terrifies Deckard.

The idea of a dictator who believes that suing the press for criticizing him should scare any American.

Like I said, if Hillary had proposed this you'd be against it.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   13:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#11) (Edited)

Hillary would never propose a return to constitutional law.

Trump suing the press for criticizing his hair is "constitutional"?

What country do you currently reside in comrade?

I'll bet you two clowns love Feinstein.

Feinstein wants to limit who can be a journalist

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   13:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#13)

dictator

Change your pants.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   13:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

of course ,suing people is what Trump does best .Trump isn't talking about facts .He's talking about his bruised ego . Who defines what is 'horrible and purposely negative ' ? I just have to wonder how many times he would've been sued had his proposals been the law of the land ?

Gutting the 1st amendment so public leaders can silence critics is totalitarianism in my book. I've got news for Trump . The 1st campaigns in this country were far more vicious when it came to the lies and slanders . The nation survived . Take his proposal now and put the power in the hands of Evita or Bolshevik Bernie. Not so attractive is it ? I'm probably on my way to the frog march ,and if not me ,any conservative outlet that opposes them .Evita thinks they are all in a conspiracy against her. But I have to give him credit . He has most of the US media wrapped around his fingers . He claims his campaign is self financed ;but he should be giving a big hat tip to the press in this country who cower at the idea that he would cut off their access. The free promotion has been worth $$$$$$$ millions .

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-27   13:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Roscoe (#15) (Edited)

Trump, Roscoe and misterwhite all agree :

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   13:40:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tomder55 (#16)

Gutting the 1st amendment so public leaders can silence critics is totalitarianism in my book.

Seems that there are some here who disagree.

The cult of Trump is scary. His followers would give up their liberty for him.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   13:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Deckard (#17)

You and Feinstein want the 1st Amendment to be a special privilege. I contended that it applied equally to all citizens. You pissed yourself.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   13:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#14)

"Trump suing the press for criticizing his hair is "constitutional"?

Is that whhat he said? Let me check. No. He didn't say that. There's a transcript (AND a video if you cant read):

He said, "... but one of the things I’m gonna do if I win… is I’m gonna open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money."

That's the way it was in our country for 200 years. An activist court in 1967 changed that by excluding "public figures" from protection against libel and slander.

Does freedom of the press include them intentionally telling lies about someone -- to promote some hidden agenda -- without facing any consequences for their action?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-27   13:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#20)

Is that whhat he said?

Deckard lies. It's what he does.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   13:50:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Roscoe (#19)

You and Feinstein want the 1st Amendment to be a special privilege.

Once again you are clueless.

It's you and the other Trump cultist who are on Feinstein's side.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   13:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deckard (#22)

Once again you are clueless.

Lie and project. It's all ya ever do.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   13:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: tomder55 (#16)

"Gutting the 1st amendment so public leaders can silence critics is totalitarianism in my book."

The critics can still publish whatever they want. Trump is simply saying that they need to be held responsible for what they publish. If the press chooses to knowingly publish a lie, they open themselves up to a lawsuit.

This is currently the case with private citizens and WAS the case with public figures prior to 1967. Trump wants to go back to the original laws.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-27   13:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite (#20) (Edited)

but one of the things I’m gonna do if I win… is I’m gonna open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money."

And here I thought misterwhite was opposed to frivolous lawsuits.

You Trump cultists are the Bush Bots of the new milenium.

Does freedom of the press include them intentionally telling lies about someone -- to promote some hidden agenda.

Maybe you should ask Hannity, O'Reilly, Kelley and Limbaugh.

As far as I know, there is no "fair and balanced" clause in the First amendment.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   13:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#24)

This is currently the case with private citizens

The Trump-haters also hate mere citizens. They want a Government-approved elite press with special privileges beyond what the rest of us enjoy.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   13:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard (#25)

frivolous lawsuits

Update: Lie, project, and beg the question.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   14:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Roscoe (#23)

The First amendment is a RIGHT you blithering fool, not a privilege as you and Trump want it to be.

Good grief, your hatred of freedom is utterly repulsive.

As are you.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   14:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Roscoe (#26)

They want a Government-approved elite press

just what the fuck do you think Trump is proposing you bleating sheep?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   14:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard (#28)

The First amendment is a RIGHT

Actually it is a restriction on Congress. A restriction protecting ALL citizens, much to the dismay of Constitution-haters like yourself.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   14:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#29)

Trump is proposing

That the establishment presstitutes be treated just like the rest of us. You and Rachel Maddow hate that.

Uh, you need to change your pants again.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   14:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deckard (#25)

"And here I thought misterwhite was opposed to frivolous lawsuits."

I expect the truth from any organization given special protection under the first amendment. The first amendment exists in order to protect the dissemination of the truth to the public.

I don't see the benefit in protecting the ability of news organizations to tell me lies. I think if a protected news organization intentionally tells me lies they should be held responsible under our civil tort laws.

The second amendment protects your right to keep and bear arms. Does that mean you can use those arms to violate the law?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-27   14:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Roscoe (#30)

Actually it is a restriction on Congress.

Oh....now it all makes sense.

You delusionally believe that as long as the 1st amendment is infringed by a president and not by congress, then it's all good?

Are you fucking out of your mind?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   14:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Roscoe (#31)

Your political bent is more in line with Madow than anyone else here at LF, with the exception of paulsen.

Nice try though, your tactics are unsurprisingly transparent.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   14:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Deckard (#28)

"The First amendment is a RIGHT"

WRONG!

The first amendment, as written, protects certain rights from federal infringement.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-27   14:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: misterwhite (#32)

The second amendment protects your right to keep and bear arms.

By Deckard's "reasoning", establishment insiders should have a greater right to keep and bear arms than the rest of us.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   14:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite (#35)

The first amendment, as written, protects certain rights from federal infringement.

Pearls before swine.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   14:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: misterwhite (#32)

Got it - no dissenting opinion or criticism of Der Führer will be tolerated.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   14:10:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard (#33)

infringed by a president

Update: Lie, project, beg the question, then double down.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   14:11:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Roscoe (#36)

Typical...more lies.

Asshole.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

In a Cop Culture, the Bill of Rights Doesn’t Amount to Much

Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2016-02-27   14:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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