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Title: Former Mexican President Vicente Fox to Trump: We're "Not Paying For That F***ing Wall"
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Published: Feb 25, 2016
Author: RCP
Post Date: 2016-02-25 14:47:21 by A K A Stone
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

We're not paying for that steenkin' wall!

misterwhite  posted on  2016-02-25   17:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

well of course they are not paying for the wall unless it is Trump's intention that Mexico give up its soveriegnty and become the emperor of North America, maybe he thinks that is what the job is

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-25   18:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: paraclete (#2)

they are not paying for the wall unless it is Trump's intention that Mexico give up its soveriegnty

Hysterical hyperbole.

We pay Mexico over a half billion dollars in foreign aid per year.

“Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things: impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages.” --Donald Trump

And that's another 20 plus billion dollars or so.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-25   18:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I'm not paying you to run your mouth. Get back to mowing my yard, Fox!

Abcdefg  posted on  2016-02-25   22:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Roscoe (#3) (Edited)

You can withdraw aid but the aid was given as untied, that is it is not tied to the construction of a wall. If the US wants to pay cheap mexican labour to construct a wall, it an ample mexican workforce on its side of the border, it can divert its aid payments to those people.

the US has the ability to regulate banking and the transfer of money but surely using a bully approach is poor policy. What would be sensible would be for regulations to restrict international money flow to large transaction but that would cut the US throat and hoist it on its own pitard

What Trump is doing is expounding bullshit for polulist gain, surely he doesn't want to damage international relations that is if he even understands that international relations are important

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-25   22:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: paraclete (#5)

surely using a bully approach is poor policy

Bully? Oh, you dear sweet tenderhearted thing! You want those billions in illegally acquired funds to keep flowing across the border.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-26   0:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone, tomder55, CZ82, TooConservative (#0)

Former Mexican President Vicente Fox to Trump: We're "Not Paying For That F***ing Wall"

To which Trump said tonight Fox had a filthy mouth.

Hello pot meet kettle. LOL.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-26   0:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite (#1)

They'll pay. Willingly? Unwillingly? All that really matters is that their free ride will come to an end.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-26   1:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter, A K A Stone, , CZ82, TooConservative (#7)

Hello pot meet kettle. LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTh-1hto9wU

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-26   7:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Roscoe (#6)

Oh, you dear sweet tenderhearted thing!

Yes I am actually, I couldn't care less where your millions flow to, they are helping someone so you don't have to give aid

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-26   9:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I can't believe there is anyone who ever thought that Mexico would pay for the wall,other than Trump. He believes it because he said it,and he is a Trust Fund Child that has lead a sheltered and protected life that has left him with an enormous ego that will never let him admit he is wrong about anything. After all,"wrong is for losers,not people born in the shade of Trust Funds".

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-26   10:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: paraclete (#2)

well of course they are not paying for the wall unless it is Trump's intention that Mexico give up its soveriegnty and become the emperor of North America,

Trump is free to say anything he wants because he has Dim backing during the primary season,and the Dim-controlled media is not going to go after him because he is making their world safe for another Dim president.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-26   10:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: paraclete (#5)

What Trump is doing is expounding bullshit for polulist gain, surely he doesn't want to damage international relations that is if he even understands that international relations are important

None of it matters to him because he doesn't mean anything he says.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-26   10:51:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#11)

It is called tariffs and charges on remittance payments.

Trump also didn't have a trust fund. So quit lying.

He took a million dollar loan.

I know you support Bernie the Karl Marx of the debate. You know the one who thinks you shouldh't be able to leave an inheritance.

Us Gen Xers aren't as dumb as your generation.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-26   10:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Trump also didn't have a trust fund. So quit lying.

Are you drunk again?

It is established FACT that he inherited 12 MILLION dollars and 15,000 pieces of rental property from his grandfather when he turned 21. If that ain't a Trust Fund,what was it?

Name ONE job he has ever had in his life that wasn't based on the family business he inherited.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-26   10:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#15)

It is established FACT that he inherited 12 MILLION dollars and 15,000 pieces of rental property from his grandfather when he turned 21. If that ain't a Trust Fund,what was it?

That is an inheritance. I know you think the government should have confiscated it. I mean you being a Bernie lover.

You're using communist talking points. Trying to make it out like inheriting money is a bad thing. Or immoral. As you suck down social security dollars from people who worked for it.

So on the one hand you made a bad investment in Social Security. Now because you were stupid you now want younger people to pay for your losses.

Now on the other hand Donalds father earned money and left it to his family.

Making Donald Trump more honorable then you are. At least he isn't taking money from minimum wage earners like you do.

Next. A trust fund isn't an inheritance. So quit lying about it. Lying is another characteristic that you need to lose to be taken seriously. It is honorable to tell the truth and the sign of a loser to lie all the time.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-26   11:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#15)

Name ONE job he has ever had in his life that wasn't based on the family business he inherited.

People make their own decisions. It doesn't matter how you think they should live their life. You like your "conservative" hero Bernie wants to control people. Wants to take away their freedom.

Something is seriously wrong with your generation. I assume you're a baby boomer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-26   11:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#16)

It is established FACT that he inherited 12 MILLION dollars and 15,000 pieces of rental property from his grandfather when he turned 21. If that ain't a Trust Fund,what was it?

That is an inheritance. I know you think the government should have confiscated it. I mean you being a Bernie lover.

It is a TRUST FUND you loon. Trust Funds are designed to protect the wealth of wealthy families from taxes as well as lawsuits from any of their actions,either criminal or civil. They are what allow the rich families like the Kennedy's and the Trumps to be politically left because all of THEIR inherited assets belong to the trust,not to them as individuals.

You're using communist talking points. Trying to make it out like inheriting money is a bad thing. Or immoral. As you suck down social security dollars from people who worked for it.

Never had an actual thought in your life,have you? OR told the truth.

FACT,the laws treats trust fund money differently than money that in inherited by an individual because it is the Trust Fund that inherits the money instead of the individual. The lines are blurred in the public mind so that ignorant people like you defend the huge tax advantages the ruling families in this country have over you when it comes to accessing ancestral wealth. Since they don't actually own or possess the money,it's safe from seizure by bankruptcy courts as well as law suits against the beneficiary.

Maybe you are such a suckup in real life you don't mind the fact that the law protects the uber wealthy from the results of their foolishness or criminality,while forcing you to pay out a huge chuck of YOUR inheritance in taxes to pay for the welfare programs the trust fund children created?

And if anybody here is in love with another man,it is you for your beloved Donald. You make excuses for him doing things you would slam anyone else for saying or doing. Hell,you have even convinced yourself the SOB is a conservative,based on what he says rather than what he has spend his whole life doing,and is STILL doing.

And last but certainly not least,I EARNED my SS check by paying into the system. Only a shithead like you would imply I am trying to steal something I didn't earn. Which is ironic,given your lust for Trump.

Now on the other hand Donalds father earned money and left it to his family.

Despite being a Trump groupie,you are so ignorant you don't even know the original money that financed Trump and put him in charge of an established business that had been successful for decades came from his GRANDFATHER. A business I might add that The Donald no longer owns because he sold all the property he inherited control over and invested the money in businesses he ran into bankruptcy.

He also spent and lost all the money he inherited from his father. That was reported to be around 200 MILLION in cash,plus some property that was left in trust for the senior Trumps family. Donald's share of that 200 million was 40 million. The remainder went to other family members.

And remember,these figures were based on the purchasing power of the dollar in 1967 and in 1999,NOT 2016 dollars. 40 MILLION dollars was a lot of money back when you could buy a new 3 bedroom brick house for less than $20,000 in most cities,and a new fully equiped Impala,Galaxie,or Fury for 2 grand at any dealership in the country. And that's not even counting the 12 Million he got in trust from his grandfather. People were raising families,buying new homes,and sending their children to college with just the father working,and earning less than 5 dollars an hour.

Compare the purchasing power of the money and property values left to him by his father and grandfather at the time when he got it compared to the purchasing power of the actual cash he has today,and he has less money now than he did back then.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-26   12:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#17)

People make their own decisions. It doesn't matter how you think they should live their life. You like your "conservative" hero Bernie wants to control people. Wants to take away their freedom.

I feel sorry for you. There is some slight chance you may eventually grow up and realize how foolish and ignorant you sounded on these threads,and it will all be on the net for people to find for the rest of your life.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-26   12:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#18)

Super nice rant, petey, backed up with facts. Bravo!

BTW, my brother married a trust fund girl about 4 years ago - her dad is still living.

My friend's dad passed away about 18 months ago - his dad has a Living Revocable Trust. I don't know the details in it, plus it ain't my bidness.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-26   16:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Fred Mertz (#20)

BTW, my brother married a trust fund girl about 4 years ago - her dad is still living.

I have a local friend that spins wrenches for someone else for a living. Was married earlier to a girl that liked to drink and party,and lost his mobile home when she left him and went for the property settlement.

Here he is a few years later,still spinning wrenches,but now married to the only child of a multi-millionaire. They just bought several acres on the waterfront to build a new house on.

As the old saying goes,he went from shit to sugar.

BTW,I seriously don't think the family money had anything to do with it. They are both tattoo and piercing freaks that are nuts over pit bulls. Frankly,that is as much as I want to know about their personal lives. Maybe even a bit extra.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-26   20:16:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#21) (Edited)

My bro's wife was an attorney when he married her. I was out to visit them in CA last fall. I asked bro if his wife is working; he said she didn't have to other than to manage and keep track of her holdings/properties/investments...and take care of the two little boys (future trust fund kids). In other words, her holdings (trust fund) make more money than she could working as a full-time lawyer.

I didn't pry other than ask him that question. For his sake, I hope they stay married forever.

I'm not up on the details of various trusts, although one doesn't need to be a multi-millionaire to have one rather than the standard will. The will goes to probate court and is public info. Trusts aren't made public as I understand them.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-26   20:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#14)

It is called tariffs and charges on remittance payments.

Poor sneaky got served.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-26   20:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Roscoe (#23)

It is called tariffs and charges on remittance payments.

Poor sneaky got served.

ROFLMAO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-26   21:41:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#24)

tariffs and charges on remittance payments

Roscoe  posted on  2016-02-27   0:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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