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Title: World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria
Source: The Economic Collapse
URL Source: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/ ... abia-are-ready-to-invade-syria
Published: Feb 15, 2016
Author: Mike Snyder
Post Date: 2016-02-15 19:41:12 by U don't know me
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World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria By Michael Snyder, on February 14th, 2016

War Soldiers - Public Domain350,000 soldiers, 20,000 tanks, 2,450 warplanes and 460 military helicopters are massing in northern Saudi Arabia for a military exercise that is being called “Northern Thunder”. According to the official announcement, forces are being contributed by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, Sudan, Kuwait, Morocco, Pakistan, Tunisia, Oman, Qatar, Malaysia and several other nations. This exercise will reportedly last for 18 days, and during that time the airspace over northern Saudi Arabia will be closed to air traffic. This will be the largest military exercise in the history of the region, and it comes amid rumors that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are preparing for a massive ground invasion of Syria.

If you were going to gather forces for an invasion, this is precisely how you would do it. Governments never come out and publicly admit that forces are moving into position for an invasion ahead of time, so “military exercises” are a common excuse that gets used for this sort of thing.

If these exercises are actually being used as an excuse to mass forces near the northern Saudi border, then we should expect an invasion to begin within the next couple of weeks. If it happens, we should expect to see the Saudi coalition storm through western Iraq and into Syria from the south, and it is likely that Turkey will come in from the north.

The goal would be to take out the Assad regime before Russia, Iran and Hezbollah could react. For the past couple of years, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies have been funding the Sunni insurgency in Syria, and they were counting on those insurgents to be able to take down the Assad regime by themselves.

You see, the truth is that ISIS was never supposed to lose in Syria. Saudi Arabia and her allies have been funneling massive amounts of money to ISIS, and hundreds of millions of dollars of ISIS oil has been shipped into Turkey where it is sold to the rest of the world.

The major Sunni nations wanted ISIS and the other Sunni insurgent groups to take down Assad. In the aftermath, Saudi Arabia and her allies intended to transform Syria into a full-blown Sunni nation.

But then Russia, Iran and Hezbollah stepped forward to assist the Assad regime. Russian air support completely turned the tide of the war, and now the Sunni insurgents are on the brink of losing.

Aleppo was once the largest city in Syria, and Sunni insurgents have controlled it since 2012. But now relentless Russian airstrikes have made it possible for Syrian, Iranian and Hezbollah ground forces to surround the city, and it is about to fall back into the hands of the Syrian government.

If this happens, the war will essentially be over.

Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies have invested massive amounts of time, money and effort into overthrowing Assad, and they aren’t about to walk away now.

If the war was to end right at this moment, a weakened Assad regime would remain in power, and Iran and Hezbollah would be the dominant powers in the country for years to come. And once Assad died, it would be inevitable that Iran and Hezbollah would attempt to transform Syria into a full-blown Shiite nation. This is something that Saudi Arabia and Turkey want to avoid at all costs.

So they are actually considering what was once absolutely unthinkable – a massive ground invasion of Syria.

But if Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies go in, they run the risk of a full-blown war with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. Just consider some of the comments that we have seen in recent days…

Reacting to a potential troop deployment, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem said Saturday, “Let no one think they can attack Syria or violate its sovereignty because I assure you any aggressor will return to their country in a wooden coffin.”

Pavel Krasheninnikov, a deputy of Russia’s State Duma, has warned Saudi Arabia that any military ground operation in Syria without Damascus’ consent would amount to a declaration of war, Press TV reported.

We could literally be looking at the spark that sets off World War 3. I can’t believe that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are actually considering this.

And if it does happen, you can rest assured that Barack Obama gave them the green light to go in.

Unfortunately, it sounds like the decision may have already been made. Just consider what Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu is saying…

“If we have such a strategy, then Turkey and Saudi Arabia may launch a ground operation,” he added, fueling concerns that a foreign troop invasion may soon further complicate the already turbulent situation in the war-torn country.

Earlier, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the UAE voiced their readiness to contribute troops for a ground operation in Syria on the condition that the US would lead the intervention. Damascus and its key regional ally, Iran, warned that such a foreign force would face strong resistance.

And in addition to all of the forces massing in northern Saudi Arabia, the London Independent is reporting that the Saudis have sent troops and aircraft to a military base in Turkey…

Saudi Arabia is sending troops and fighter jets to Turkey’s Incirlik military base ahead of a possible ground invasion of Syria.

The Turkish foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, confirmed the deployment in a statement to the Yeni ^afak newspaper on Saturday, days before a temporary ceasefire is due to come into force.

There are reports that Saudi officials are saying that the decision to send in ground troops is “irreversible”, and Reuters is reporting that the Syrian government claims that some Turkish troops have already entered the country…

The Syrian government says Turkish forces were believed to be among 100 gunmen it said entered Syria on Saturday accompanied by 12 pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, in an ongoing supply operation to insurgents fighting Damascus.

“The operation of supplying ammunition and weapons is continuing via the Bab al-Salama crossing to the Syrian area of Azaz,” the Syrian foreign ministry said in a letter to the U.N. Security Council published by state news agency SANA.

Of course the Turkish government is not going to confirm that report, but what we do know is that Turkey is shelling Kurdish forces on the Syrian side of the border. The funny thing is that these Kurdish forces are actually being supported and supplied by the U.S. government.

So the Turks are not supposed to be doing this, but according to Reuters they have been doing it for two days in a row anyway…

The Turkish army shelled positions held by Kurdish-backed militia in northern Syria for a second day on Sunday, killing two fighters, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said.

Turkey on Saturday demanded the powerful Syrian Kurdish YPG militia withdraw from areas that it had captured in the northern Aleppo region in recent days from insurgents in Syria, including the Menagh air base. The shelling has targeted those areas.

The hostility between Turkey and the Kurds goes back a long, long way. The Syrian Kurds are not threatening Turkey in any way right now, but Turkey is using the instability in the region as an excuse to lob artillery shells at a hated enemy. It is an act of naked aggression that the Obama administration should be loudly denouncing.

In addition, it is being reported that Syrian government forces have also been getting shelled by the Turkish military…

Anatolia news agency reported that the Turkish military hit Syrian government forces on Saturday, adding that the shelling had been in response to fire inflicted on a Turkish military guard post in Turkey’s southern Hatay region.

Turkish artillery targeted Syrian forces again late on Saturday, according to a military source quoted by RIA Novosti. The attack targeted the town of Deir Jamal in the Aleppo Governorate.

Needless to say, the Russians are quite alarmed by all of this.

In fact, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is warning about what could happen if things spiral out of control…

In the wake of Saudi Arabia’s proposal to send in ground troops on Thursday, the Russian Prime Minister claimed the move could spark a new world war.

“A ground operation draws everyone taking part in it into a war,” he told the Handelsblatt newspaper.

“The Americans and our Arab partners must consider whether or not they want a permanent war.”

If Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies launch an invasion and make a mad dash to take out the Assad regime in Damascus, the Russians will inevitably respond.

And if tactical nuclear weapons are necessary to keep the invading forces out of Damascus, the Russians will not be shy about using them.

I don’t know if I have ever seen a scenario which was more likely to initiate World War 3 than the one that we are watching unfold right now.

So what has the mainstream media been saying about all of this?

Incredibly, they have been almost entirely silent. When he went looking for news about these events, James Bailey could find almost nothing on either Fox News or CNN…

I just visited the home page for Foxnews.com and found not one single mention of the insane events now unfolding in the Middle East. I could not believe it, so I used my Find tool to search for Syria and Saudi Arabia. Not one mention!

Of course that could change at any moment, but nothing there when I checked. Their stories were all about the meaningless Presidential election, which has already been decided regardless of what we think about it, and other stories about entertainment, sports, Congressional political theater, etc.

So I went to CNN and found just about the same thing with one news story about the Syrian cease fire, but when I read it there was no mention of any of the big events that have developed this week. This is truly an amazing media blackout!

But Fox News does have space to run headlines like these…

–Spanish man skipped work for 6 years, still got paid

–48 people rescued from stuck tram cars at New Hampshire ski resort

–Lovelorn elephant takes out his rage on more than a dozen cars

And CNN apparently thinks that these news stories are more important than the potential beginning of World War 3…

If Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies are going to conduct an invasion of Syria, the most likely time for this to happen will be by the end of this month during these military exercises.

If we can get to March 1st and no invasion has happened yet, perhaps we can breathe a little sigh of relief.

But if it does happen, and the Russians and the Iranians decide to shoot back, it really could be the start of World War 3.

If you have not been paying attention up until now, you need to start, because this could literally change everything.

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#96. To: Pinguinite (#95) (Edited)

Saying "at some point" doesn't pass the prophecy test. You have to give a window of time in which it will happen as it's simply not acceptable to perpetually say to wait a little longer.

No dice.

While some of your predictions for 2016 are somewhat higher quality, on at least the Montenegro/NATO prediction, I have to award you the "I award you no points" award.

I said I would predict it when the time comes, probably in 2017 in Bible Prophecy. What more do you want? I certainly don't want to get ahead of God's timetable and have people call me a false prophet.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-21   9:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Pinguinite (#94)

Dec 4 is still two days after Montenegro was asked to join NATO. So predicting they would say yes is hardly anything that could be credited to some kind of divine inspiration.

You may be skilled at deriving likely world events by paying attention to the news, but there's nothing suggesting that your references with Revelation are contributing to any success you may be having in that field. The bulk of Revelation is extremely symbolic to the point where symbols could be matched up to just about anything the reader wishes.

You couldn't be more wrong. Everything I say is based on the Revelation. The Revelation clearly signifies that 24 Christian nations will kill off the latest face of the 7th head of Satan, and Satan wont be heard from again for a thousand years, allowing those 24 nations to rule the earth in peace for Jesus for a millennium. And it signifies that one of the 24 nations is the 5th horseman (who is described in great detail in chapter 19, and can only be Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-21   10:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: interpreter (#97)

Everything I say is based on the Revelation. The Revelation clearly signifies that 24 Christian nations will kill off the latest face of the 7th head of Satan, and Satan wont be heard from again for a thousand years, allowing those 24 nations to rule the earth in peace for Jesus for a millennium. And it signifies that one of the 24 nations is the 5th horseman (who is described in great detail in chapter 19, and can only be Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs.

You are a complete idiot.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-21   10:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: interpreter (#96)

I certainly don't want to get ahead of God's timetable and have people call me a false prophet.

Well, seeing how you already advocated the murder/genocide of entire peoples based on their theological beliefs, I think you're past that point already, honestly. That alone has put you in the same murderous camp as Islamic "extremists", if that is what they are, who do the exact same thing for the exact same reason. You are perfectly content to deprive people of the full life that God gave them, depriving them of the full opportunity to become enlightened to Christianity, choosing arrogantly to kill them based on a single bible verse rather than willingly consider other verses where Jesus instructs disciples to do no more than shake the dust off their feet as they leave a town that rejects the message.

You miss the entire boat. Hell, you're missing the entire ocean that the boat is in. Even if you end up being right on your predictions, even if 100% right, do you really think that's what impresses God?

I'll tell you what I believe. God loves all of us, and He really doesn't care about our head knowledge which is all too often simply a result of our upbringing, and by that I'm referring to theology. God does not become angry, jealous or wrathful, all of which are characteristics of weakness, and completely inconsistent of an entity that is already understood to be endless in wisdom and knowledge. (Tell me how it is possible to piss off someone who already knows all there is to know about you, everything you are ever going to do, and who loves you more than you could ever fathom? You can't!!! LOL)

And why would this same God, who is all-powerful in ADDITION to being all wise and all knowing, bother to create an entire spiritual system where the vast majority of his children end up burning in hell forever? That's one question never asked, as it's always simply assumed that God had no control over the matter of sin and hell, certainly implying that he's not quite so all powerful as otherwise advertised.

Our purpose on earth is hardly to promote the glory of God, at least in the sense of promoting an alleged divine sense of narcissism that this all wise and all knowing God supposedly possesses. That as though it is really important to an all powerful God what even an entire planet full of people living on a tiny speck of dust in the universe thinks of him.

Our purpose on earth is simply to grow. We all came here with that mission. We are here primarily for the benefit of ourselves, to overcome vices and pains. To learn to become loving examples to those around us even in the face of tragedy and adversity -- things which, in this context, take on a spiritual purpose & meaning, and I'm talking about things even so severe as when parents have a young child die. There is a practical purpose for it, for the direct benefit of the parents. It's not simply because God wants another angel and he doesn't care about the parents. Nothing could be more untrue.

Interpreter, we are immortal. All of us. Our bodies are mortal, but we as souls are not, which is why the contents of our mortal brains is of no importance. Our immortal souls are where the bulk of our identity resides, including our virtues and vices, both of which we are here on earth to embellish an overcome, respectively. And yes, one lifetime is usually insufficient to overcome such things, but when the soul is immortal, there is no reason to be limited to a single lifetime.

In the end, we have God who is all wise, all knowing, all powerful, all loving, and endlessly patient, and never condemning. We have complete free will, and yet complete accountability for our actions, and very pragmatic reasons for life's pains and troubles. There is no need for any hell to exist that swallows up the vast majority of us, all of us being the recipients of incomprehensible love.

This is, objectively speaking, a theology which has superior qualities to the basic Christian model -- not that the result of such a comparison is, by itself, proof of truth, but it's something that ought to be considered by any open mind. Nor would I say that Christianity is completely wrong or a bad faith. Neither is true, as there are many good and theologically accurate qualities true Christianity has.

But I would maintain that your predictions, even if 100% accurate (which I'm not convinced of), are completely irrelevant.

My best to you...

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-21   13:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Pinguinite (#99) (Edited)

But I would maintain that your predictions, even if 100% accurate (which I'm not convinced of), are completely irrelevant.

Then you are 100 % wrong. The fulfillment of 100 % of my predictions since 1992 proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that my eschatology including my theology is 100 % right. And God often calls for the murder/genocide of entire peoples (like ISIS), and it is entirely based on their theological beliefs. God's love is a very tough love.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-21   16:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: interpreter (#100) (Edited)

And God often calls for the murder/genocide of entire peoples (like ISIS), and it is entirely based on their theological beliefs. God's love is a very tough love.

God doesn't do this as a general rule. You cannot make a rule out of an instance otherwise you are a pharassee. God determined that the cannanites were a people who worshiped Baal and made human sacrifice, therefore he told the Israelites to drive them out so they wouldn't be contaminated. Hey told the Israelites to destroy the amalakites for their practices also. I don't recall he told the jews to destroy the romans and they were pagans. The israelites failed in these tasks thus we have problems today as a result park that in your es eschatology

He may choose to judge Daesh in the same way because of their practices, we shall see

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-21   20:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: paraclete (#101)

God doesn't do this as a general rule. You cannot make a rule out of an instance otherwise you are a pharassee. God determined that the cannanites were a people who worshiped Baal and made human sacrifice, therefore he told the Israelites to drive them out so they wouldn't be contaminated. Hey told the Israelites to destroy the amalakites for their practices also. I don't recall he told the jews to destroy the romans and they were pagans. The israelites failed in these tasks thus we have problems today as a result park that in your es eschatology

He may choose to judge Daesh in the same way because of their practices, we shall see

God makes the rules not me. And by your own admission, God often called for the Israelites to wipe out entire nations, including every man, woman and child with the exception of the virgins who they were allowed to keep for their pleasure. His general rule is, those who kill His chosen people (chosen to rule the earth) must be killed off. The Israelites did an excellent job of killing off their enemies except when it came to the Roman pagans who were too powerful. That had to wait for the second coming of Jesus.

The three big enemies of Jesus that have been, or will be, killed off are pagan Rome, Hitler and his followers, and Muslims (maybe not all Muslims but at least Al Qaida/ISIS types). They are the 6th, 7th and 8th heads of Satan. When the last militant Muslim is dead, God's chosen people will rule the earth in peace for a thousand years.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-21   23:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: interpreter (#100)

I've said my peace. Good luck to you.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-22   1:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: interpreter (#102)

Have you wondered why he has allowed Muslim to persist for 1400 years?

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-22   5:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: paraclete (#101) (Edited)

God determined that the cannanites were a people who worshiped Baal and made human sacrifice, therefore he told the Israelites to drive them out so they wouldn't be contaminated. Hey told the Israelites to destroy the amalakites for their practices also. I don't recall he told the jews to destroy the romans and they were pagans. The israelites failed in these tasks thus we have problems today as a result park that in your es eschatology

Cannanites, Amalakites and large part of the Jews became Christians. Islam came several centuries later. Palestinians were majority Christian for centuries after Muslim conquest and their DNA is very similar to the Sephardi Jews.

A Pole  posted on  2016-02-22   5:52:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: paraclete (#104) (Edited)

Have you wondered why he has allowed Muslim to persist for 1400 years?

The pagan Roman Empire also lasted for hundreds of years -- until Christians became strong enough to defeat it. I predict that Islam will likewise be defeated and very soon --when Trump is elected president, and also 23 strong leaders in Europe are elected to replace the Muslim-lovers now in power.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-22   10:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: interpreter (#106)

your sense of history is a bit off, christianity was absorbed by the roman empire, the barbarians defeated the western roman empire and the muslims defeated the eastern roman empire. Empires inevietably decline. Sometimes it takes centuries, sometimes less. The soviet empire was gone in 70 years, the US should learn the lessons and realise it is well on the way

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-22   15:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: paraclete (#107) (Edited)

your sense of history is a bit off, christianity was absorbed by the roman empire, the barbarians defeated the western roman empire and the muslims defeated the eastern roman empire. Empires inevietably decline. Sometimes it takes centuries, sometimes less. The soviet empire was gone in 70 years, the US should learn the lessons and realise it is well on the way

It is your revisionist history that is off. Christianity conquered or I guess you could say "absorbed" the Roman Empire and not the other way around. And Christianized Rome was indeed attacked once by Barbarians, but they didn't come close to defeating the western Roman Empire, and they soon became Christians, so it is a moot point. And Rome was conquered a few years later by Arian Christians who were deemed heretical and were excommunicated by the first ecumenical council, but they were still devout Christians and in later years they rejoined the established Church and/or died out, so it too is a moot point. Christians will rule the earth to the end, and resistance is futile as the history books prove.

It is true that Muslims conquered Constantinople and most of the eastern Roman Empire, but most of the territory has since been retaken by Christians. And when one Christian superpower declines, and/or is conquered, another one pops up. The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th Christian superpower to rule the earth. And yes, the US will also decline at some point, but we will be replaced by the 5th horseman. Like I said, resistance is futile.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-22   16:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: interpreter, Moderator X (#108)

The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th Christian superpower to rule the earth.

You are a complete ignorant slut unworthy of posting on LF. I am recommending to Moderator X that your keyboard be muffled here, on LF.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-22   17:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: interpreter (#108)

Christians will rule the earth to the end, and resistance is futile as the history books prove.

Actually, the Bible says that we lose in the end. The faithful are engulfed by evil and fail and are oppressed. Only once the Christians are defeated and being wiped out for good does God then intervene and kill everybody with the end of the world.

Then comes the universal resurrection and the eucatastrophe, for the Christians, of final judgment. The evil are thrown into the fire, and the Christians enter the City of God, which comes to earth.

The history books only tell us what has happened. The Christian scriptures tell us what will happen, and unfortunately they tell us that we lose, and it's God himself who then ends the earth and reverses the result.

Our destiny as Christians on this earth is not to triumph, but to be conquered and fall. We are fighting the long defeat. God told us that all along.

We are fighting the long defeat, but not without glimpses of the joy of the final victory, which will not be done by Christian hands but by the hands of angels. Ultimately, Christians fail and the world is engulfed in darkness. It is God himself, not men, who wins the final victory. We die, and are rescued after death, by God. The future of men of goodwill on this earth is ultimately bleak. But after defeat, the victory - at God's hands, not ours.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-22   18:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: interpreter (#108)

The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th Christian superpower to rule the earth. And yes, the US will also decline at some point, but we will be replaced by the 5th horseman. Like I said, resistance is futile.

The only thing that follows the pale horse is death

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-22   19:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Vicomte13 (#110) (Edited)

Our destiny as Christians on this earth is not to triumph, but to be conquered and fall.

I disagree. The US, now the earth's only superpower, is the strongest nation on earth by far, and the 5th horseman will be even stronger. And the Bible signifies that a coalition of 24 Christian nations will soon defeat the latest face of the 7th head of Satan (ISIS) and then Satan wont be heard from again for a thousand years, allowing the 24 thrones to rule the earth in peace for a millennium. It is true that, after the 1000 years, Satan returns and causes his followers to attack the saints, and that causes the earth to be destroyed by fire. To me, it sounds like the Bible is talking about the fulfillment of the oft-predicted and much-feared MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) that is sure to result from all-out nuclear war (and our weapons will likely be even more scary a thousand years from now). But I have no doubt that it is God's will because He would probably prefer to let the earth be destroyed rather than let Satan and his followers win. Anyhow, everyone dies, and then God resurrects everyone and judges everybody. Those found worthy get to go to a new earth without any sea (most likely Mars) where God will provide a giant enclosed structure complete with water and everything they need. The others are thrown back into the lake of fire that the earth has become.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-22   20:00:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: paraclete (#111)

The only thing that follows the pale horse is death

Our weapons bring hell and death to the enemies of Jesus.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-22   20:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: interpreter (#113)

Your weapons bring hell and death and they don't discrimate, The US isn't interested in Jesus, it is interested in furthering the works of satan, pleasing only itsself. In case you haven't noticed capitalism is the antithesis of kingdom thinking

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-22   20:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: interpreter (#112)

Several years ago, I dreamt that I was being wisked from planet Earth and was in this sleep position and half-awake. From a distance in Space, I was watching Earth completely being engulfed in flames all over. I mourned over this as that was once my home and I felt so alone just floating about in Space wondering where my next home would be. Then I woke up.

goldilucky  posted on  2016-02-22   21:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: interpreter (#108) (Edited)

The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th Christian superpower to rule the earth.

Long before Washington and his cronies made America into a united corporation, the name America was founded by Amerigo Vespucci

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

and every year that Columbus Day arrives as a holiday, I have to wonder how many people have been duped into this grand lie about Columbus. Just think about it, if you created something or discovered something should not it be named after you?

goldilucky  posted on  2016-02-22   21:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: paraclete (#114)

Your weapons bring hell and death and they don't discrimate, The US isn't interested in Jesus, it is interested in furthering the works of satan, pleasing only itsself. In case you haven't noticed capitalism is the antithesis of kingdom thinking

Wrong. The US was founded by Christians, and our weapons to this day are controlled by Christians (through our votes). Capitalism is how we raised the money to pay for our superior but very expensive weapons. They are used only to kill the followers of Satan (ISIS, Al Qaida, etc).

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-22   23:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: interpreter, Fred Mertz (#106)

I predict that Islam will likewise be defeated and very soon --when Trump is elected president, and also 23 strong leaders in Europe are elected to replace the Muslim-lovers now in power.

I'll check back on your prediction at the appropriate time.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-22   23:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Fred Mertz, interpreter (#118)

Don't waste your tyme, Fred. This poster is an absolute lunatic thriving on pure, unadulterated bullshit.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-22   23:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: goldilucky (#116) (Edited)

Long before Washington and his cronies made America into a united corporation, the name America was founded by Amerigo Vespucci

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci

and every year that Columbus Day arrives as a holiday, I have to wonder how many people have been duped into this grand lie about Columbus. Just think about it, if you created something or discovered something should not it be named after you?

All that has very little to do with the US. What later became the US was discovered by, and settled by, English Christians. All of the founding fathers of our nation were Episcopalians, and the only nations allowed by God to rule the earth are the nations founded by a Church descended from St. Peter. They are the only legitimate Churches and the gates of hell cannot prevail against them. And until Obama, most of our presidents were members of a Church descended from St. Peter. But last year, because some Episcopalian priests started performing same-sex marriages, myself and all Episcopalians were excommunicated from the mother Church (the Anglican Church which was founded in 47AD by St. Mark who was sent by St. Peter). And it appears the US is about to elect a Presbyterian who cant correctly quote one Bible verse. Trump is the best choice we have, but I fear for the future. At some point, God is going to loose patience with the US and replace us with the 5th horseman (as is prophesied).

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-23   0:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: interpreter (#120)

All of the founding fathers of our nation were Episcopalians, and the only nations allowed by God to rule the earth are the nations founded by a Church descended from St. Peter.

Oh man, oh man, oh man, oh man ... you are a complete blithering idiot.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-23   0:26:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Fred Mertz (#118)

I predict that Islam will likewise be defeated and very soon --when Trump is elected president, and also 23 strong leaders in Europe are elected to replace the Muslim-lovers now in power.

I'll check back on your prediction at the appropriate time.

I meant of course that all Islamic militants will soon be defeated and killed off (by a coalition led by Trump). Some Muslims are peace-loving and don't need to be killed.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-23   0:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: buckeroo (#121)

All of the founding fathers of our nation were Episcopalians, and the only nations allowed by God to rule the earth are the nations founded by a Church descended from St. Peter.

Oh man, oh man, oh man, oh man ... you are a complete blithering idiot.

Have you ever read a world history book? Evidently not, or you would know that I am 100% right as I always am. You cannot point to one thing I've said that isn't true.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-23   0:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: interpreter (#123)

You cannot point to one thing I've said that isn't true.

I'll point to it when the time comes.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-23   0:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: interpreter (#123)

You are such an imbecile about facts and truth, I prefer to berate you as opposed to debate you in anyway.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-23   0:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: interpreter (#123)

Have you ever read a world history book? Evidently not, or you would know that I am 100% right as I always am. You cannot point to one thing I've said that isn't true.

I know one thing for sure you have not read any authorative text on world history or biblical intrepretation

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-23   5:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: paraclete (#126)

I know one thing for sure you have not read any authorative text on world history or biblical intrepretation

I have read many world history books and they all say Jesus returned in 312AD, on Oct. 27th, and they all call that day the turning point of history because ever since that day Christian nations have been the dominant force on earth. And they all say that the 4 superpowers to have ruled the earth (or been the dominant force) since that day were founded by a Church descended from the first century Church established by Peter.

As for reading any authoritative interpretation on the Revelation, I don't think there is one. On the rest of the Bible sure. Before I joined the Episcopal Church I read every word of the Book of Common Prayer, which contains all of the official Church doctrine, and I agree with 99% of it so I eventually joined the Church. The first Episcopal Church I tried to join wouldn't let me join because of the 1 % that I didn't agree with, but the 2nd one I visited did let me join thank God. And I have read the official doctrine of several other Churches but I don't agree with much of what they had to say so I didn't join their Church.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-23   8:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: interpreter (#127)

What a load of rubbish, cite for me where it says that in the Book of Common Prayer

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-23   8:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: interpreter (#112)

And the Bible signifies that a coalition of 24 Christian nations will soon defeat the latest face of the 7th head of Satan (ISIS)

What chapter and verse is that foretold in.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-23   8:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: interpreter (#127)

I have read many world history books and they all say Jesus returned in 312AD,

No he didn' kook.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-23   8:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: interpreter (#127)

I have read many world history books and they all say Jesus returned in 312AD, on Oct. 27th

Interesting. Could you please cite a history book as a source for this. I have never heard of that date before.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-23   10:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Vicomte13 (#131)

Here, look at this:

www.historychannel.com.au...ees-a-vision-of-the-cross

I had to look it up.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-23   10:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Fred Mertz (#132)

Given the year 312 I figured it was Constantine's vision at the Milvian Bridge, but why would seeing a cross in the sky be a sign of Christ's return.

I myself saw the Holy Dove, which flew into my face and knocked me down, driving away a visible demon that was attacking my mind, a few years ago. A personal visitation or revelation doesn't mean that Christ has returned. When Christ returns, it is to be on a cloud in glory and it marks the end.

A sign in the sky that empowers Constantine is certainly divine in origin, but it didn't signify Christ's return in glory.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-23   10:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Vicomte13 (#133)

Did it look like this?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-23   10:43:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Fred Mertz (#134)

Sort of, yes. It was white, had black eyes and an orange beak and feet. It hovered in the air above me, flapping as I looked up at it. Then it dove downwards, looking somewhat like that as it came.

It's beak passed through the bridge of my nose between my eyes, and the leading edges of its wings passed edge on straight THROUGH my eyes, with the tips of the wings whisping through the outer corners of my eyes. I was knocked flat by the impact.

It passed INTO my head, and as it did, my head exploded with the most brilliant of lights, that filled my whole body with utter joy and utter peace. It was the single most wonderful moment of my life. The second most wonderful was being embraced by Jesus in a dream, but that was a dream - maybe a revelation, maybe just a dream. The "Dove strike" was a wide awake broad daylight event.

The demon that had me in a mind-lock was gone.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-23   10:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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