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Title: World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria
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Published: Feb 15, 2016
Author: Mike Snyder
Post Date: 2016-02-15 19:41:12 by U don't know me
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World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria By Michael Snyder, on February 14th, 2016 War Soldiers - Public Domain350,000 soldiers, 20,000 tanks, 2,450 warplanes and 460 military helicopters are massing in northern Saudi Arabia for a military exercise that is being called “Northern Thunder”. According to the official announcement, forces are being contributed by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, Sudan, Kuwait, Morocco, Pakistan, Tunisia, Oman, Qatar, Malaysia and several other nations. This exercise will reportedly last for 18 days, and during that time the airspace over northern Saudi Arabia will be closed to air traffic. This will be the largest military exercise in the history of the region, and it comes amid rumors that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are preparing for a massive ground invasion of Syria. If you were going to gather forces for an invasion, this is precisely how you would do it. Governments never come out and publicly admit that forces are moving into position for an invasion ahead of time, so “military exercises” are a common excuse that gets used for this sort of thing. If these exercises are actually being used as an excuse to mass forces near the northern Saudi border, then we should expect an invasion to begin within the next couple of weeks. If it happens, we should expect to see the Saudi coalition storm through western Iraq and into Syria from the south, and it is likely that Turkey will come in from the north. The goal would be to take out the Assad regime before Russia, Iran and Hezbollah could react. For the past couple of years, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies have been funding the Sunni insurgency in Syria, and they were counting on those insurgents to be able to take down the Assad regime by themselves. You see, the truth is that ISIS was never supposed to lose in Syria. Saudi Arabia and her allies have been funneling massive amounts of money to ISIS, and hundreds of millions of dollars of ISIS oil has been shipped into Turkey where it is sold to the rest of the world. The major Sunni nations wanted ISIS and the other Sunni insurgent groups to take down Assad. In the aftermath, Saudi Arabia and her allies intended to transform Syria into a full-blown Sunni nation. But then Russia, Iran and Hezbollah stepped forward to assist the Assad regime. Russian air support completely turned the tide of the war, and now the Sunni insurgents are on the brink of losing. Aleppo was once the largest city in Syria, and Sunni insurgents have controlled it since 2012. But now relentless Russian airstrikes have made it possible for Syrian, Iranian and Hezbollah ground forces to surround the city, and it is about to fall back into the hands of the Syrian government. If this happens, the war will essentially be over. Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies have invested massive amounts of time, money and effort into overthrowing Assad, and they aren’t about to walk away now. If the war was to end right at this moment, a weakened Assad regime would remain in power, and Iran and Hezbollah would be the dominant powers in the country for years to come. And once Assad died, it would be inevitable that Iran and Hezbollah would attempt to transform Syria into a full-blown Shiite nation. This is something that Saudi Arabia and Turkey want to avoid at all costs. So they are actually considering what was once absolutely unthinkable – a massive ground invasion of Syria. But if Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies go in, they run the risk of a full-blown war with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. Just consider some of the comments that we have seen in recent days… Reacting to a potential troop deployment, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem said Saturday, “Let no one think they can attack Syria or violate its sovereignty because I assure you any aggressor will return to their country in a wooden coffin.” Pavel Krasheninnikov, a deputy of Russia’s State Duma, has warned Saudi Arabia that any military ground operation in Syria without Damascus’ consent would amount to a declaration of war, Press TV reported. We could literally be looking at the spark that sets off World War 3. I can’t believe that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are actually considering this. And if it does happen, you can rest assured that Barack Obama gave them the green light to go in. Unfortunately, it sounds like the decision may have already been made. Just consider what Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu is saying… “If we have such a strategy, then Turkey and Saudi Arabia may launch a ground operation,” he added, fueling concerns that a foreign troop invasion may soon further complicate the already turbulent situation in the war-torn country. Earlier, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the UAE voiced their readiness to contribute troops for a ground operation in Syria on the condition that the US would lead the intervention. Damascus and its key regional ally, Iran, warned that such a foreign force would face strong resistance. And in addition to all of the forces massing in northern Saudi Arabia, the London Independent is reporting that the Saudis have sent troops and aircraft to a military base in Turkey… Saudi Arabia is sending troops and fighter jets to Turkey’s Incirlik military base ahead of a possible ground invasion of Syria. The Turkish foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, confirmed the deployment in a statement to the Yeni ^afak newspaper on Saturday, days before a temporary ceasefire is due to come into force. There are reports that Saudi officials are saying that the decision to send in ground troops is “irreversible”, and Reuters is reporting that the Syrian government claims that some Turkish troops have already entered the country… The Syrian government says Turkish forces were believed to be among 100 gunmen it said entered Syria on Saturday accompanied by 12 pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, in an ongoing supply operation to insurgents fighting Damascus. “The operation of supplying ammunition and weapons is continuing via the Bab al-Salama crossing to the Syrian area of Azaz,” the Syrian foreign ministry said in a letter to the U.N. Security Council published by state news agency SANA. Of course the Turkish government is not going to confirm that report, but what we do know is that Turkey is shelling Kurdish forces on the Syrian side of the border. The funny thing is that these Kurdish forces are actually being supported and supplied by the U.S. government. So the Turks are not supposed to be doing this, but according to Reuters they have been doing it for two days in a row anyway… The Turkish army shelled positions held by Kurdish-backed militia in northern Syria for a second day on Sunday, killing two fighters, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said. Turkey on Saturday demanded the powerful Syrian Kurdish YPG militia withdraw from areas that it had captured in the northern Aleppo region in recent days from insurgents in Syria, including the Menagh air base. The shelling has targeted those areas. The hostility between Turkey and the Kurds goes back a long, long way. The Syrian Kurds are not threatening Turkey in any way right now, but Turkey is using the instability in the region as an excuse to lob artillery shells at a hated enemy. It is an act of naked aggression that the Obama administration should be loudly denouncing. In addition, it is being reported that Syrian government forces have also been getting shelled by the Turkish military… Anatolia news agency reported that the Turkish military hit Syrian government forces on Saturday, adding that the shelling had been in response to fire inflicted on a Turkish military guard post in Turkey’s southern Hatay region. Turkish artillery targeted Syrian forces again late on Saturday, according to a military source quoted by RIA Novosti. The attack targeted the town of Deir Jamal in the Aleppo Governorate. Needless to say, the Russians are quite alarmed by all of this. In fact, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is warning about what could happen if things spiral out of control… In the wake of Saudi Arabia’s proposal to send in ground troops on Thursday, the Russian Prime Minister claimed the move could spark a new world war. “A ground operation draws everyone taking part in it into a war,” he told the Handelsblatt newspaper. “The Americans and our Arab partners must consider whether or not they want a permanent war.” If Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies launch an invasion and make a mad dash to take out the Assad regime in Damascus, the Russians will inevitably respond. And if tactical nuclear weapons are necessary to keep the invading forces out of Damascus, the Russians will not be shy about using them. I don’t know if I have ever seen a scenario which was more likely to initiate World War 3 than the one that we are watching unfold right now. So what has the mainstream media been saying about all of this? Incredibly, they have been almost entirely silent. When he went looking for news about these events, James Bailey could find almost nothing on either Fox News or CNN… I just visited the home page for Foxnews.com and found not one single mention of the insane events now unfolding in the Middle East. I could not believe it, so I used my Find tool to search for Syria and Saudi Arabia. Not one mention! Of course that could change at any moment, but nothing there when I checked. Their stories were all about the meaningless Presidential election, which has already been decided regardless of what we think about it, and other stories about entertainment, sports, Congressional political theater, etc. So I went to CNN and found just about the same thing with one news story about the Syrian cease fire, but when I read it there was no mention of any of the big events that have developed this week. This is truly an amazing media blackout! But Fox News does have space to run headlines like these… –Spanish man skipped work for 6 years, still got paid –48 people rescued from stuck tram cars at New Hampshire ski resort –Lovelorn elephant takes out his rage on more than a dozen cars And CNN apparently thinks that these news stories are more important than the potential beginning of World War 3… If Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies are going to conduct an invasion of Syria, the most likely time for this to happen will be by the end of this month during these military exercises. If we can get to March 1st and no invasion has happened yet, perhaps we can breathe a little sigh of relief. But if it does happen, and the Russians and the Iranians decide to shoot back, it really could be the start of World War 3. If you have not been paying attention up until now, you need to start, because this could literally change everything.
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I have been paying attention; these are the "special forces" Saudi Arabia said they would contribute, but who do we have to blame here? The Saudi who for years have seen conflict on their borders and the ascendency of the hated shiite regime, the Russians who opportunistically worked to shore up an ally, or the US who have supplied all these nations with arms? Who benefits from a war? The arms dealers? and who are the chief arms dealers? Rhetorical question since all are involved in this conflict somewhere, showcasing their arsenals and writing their orders and crying their platitudes in the UN Security Council
Now, that's the real news. Pretty much, most government workers escape work all the time in the USA.
Jeb! and Hillary continue their arms sales to Senator McCain's "rebels" terrorists. They're not taking any chances that peace might break out during an election..... LOL. WW III, also known as the Battle of Ar Mageddon, began on 9/11 when the Euphrates was dry. And it is steadily escalating into a great worldwide war as prophesied. The Good News is, it is the final battle between good and evil, and the latest face of the 7th head of Satan will ultimately be so soundly defeated (by a US-led coalition of 24 nations dropping "exceedingly great hail") that Satan wont be heard from again for a thousand years.
I was in Iraq on 4 combat tours. Where and when did the Euphrates dry up?
For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
Of course it has not run dry ....yet . But if Anakara has it's way ,we could see it happening soon. There are some who argue that water resourses is one of the root causes of the conflict in Syria. In 2006, a leaked U.S. State Department cable forecast that Syria’s “emerging water crisis carries the potential for severe economic volatility and even socio-political unrest.” https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS4094_a.html By 2011wheat yields had fallen by over 50 percent. Much of the country’s livestock had died.Drought related crop failure forced 1.5 million farmers to abandon their land.The displaced became the recruiting pool for the Free Syrian Army . http://climateandsecurity.org/2012/02/29/syria-climate-change-drought-and- social-unrest/ Syria and Iraq both have threatened Turkey with military action over Turkey damming up both Tigris and Euphrates rivers and their apparent hegemony over the water supply . The Ataturk dam has reduced the water flow of the Euphrates by a third . The Ilisu and Cizre dam projects threaten to reduce the Tigris by 50% . Turkey's "GAP PLAN" threatens the water supply to the total region ;especially to Iraq . http://www.kurdishherald.com/issue/005/article03.php In the next twelve years, Turkey plans to build an additional 1,700 dams, nearly doubling the total number. Virtually every river in the country will be affected. http://www.greenprophet.com/2011/06/turkeys-dams-are-violating-human-rights-un- report-says/#sthash.kRzOvqBV.dpuf "If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato
May God bless you. I commend you for doing your part in killing the enemies of Jesus (as we are commanded to do in Luke 19:27). And if you were there in the first deployment of troops in Iraq in April of 2003, you would know that the Euphrates was dry. The lower 50 miles of the Euphrates, and the fertile marshes of the Garden of Eden, was dried up by Saddam Hussein in May, 1994. He did it to prepare the way for the kings of the east in the Battle of Ar Mageddon as prophesied. He did it with a couple dams and a diversion canal that he dubbed "The Mother of All Battles River." It was restored by the "Marsh Arabs" (who claim to have lived there since the days of the Garden of Eden) as soon as the US toppled Hussein. Ar Mageddon means City of the Sanctuary, and it signifies that the final battle between Good and Evil centers around Baghdad, the great city (or Capital) of the first sanctuary, and also Jerusalem the home of 3 great sanctuaries. Both cities will likely end up being split 3 ways, Baghdad and Iraq between the Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds, and Jerusalem between the Jews, Christians and Muslims. Syria, arguably part of the Garden of Eden, may also have to be split 3 ways just as in Iraq. Then there will be peace for a thousand years.
You gotta be kidding.
You gotta be kidding. I'm dead serious. It's in the Bible, Jesus said it, and we need to obey it. I did my share of killing the enemies of Jesus in Viet Nam.
Spoken like a true Crusader.
This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone subscribing to a Jihadi Jesus. Until today, I thought Islam was the only major faith to advocate the execution of unbelievers. Seems Mohammed's dictates have a Christian counterpart, eh? I'm not knocking your Vietnam experiences. I'm not in a position to judge that. War is a terrible thing. But your position of suggesting that Jesus has enemies that should be executed run counter to the core of the Christian message. So how do you know who the enemies of Jesus are? Do you still love these enemies as you are executing them, as Jesus also commanded?
I have nothing against you. I do wish you well.
An enemy of Jesus is defined by Jesus as any one who resists being ruled by a Christian nation. Our personal enemies has nothing to do with the enemies of Jesus. We are to love the one, and kill the other. All of the enemies of Jesus must be killed off, then God's chosen people (Christians and Jews)will rule the earth in peace for a thousand years. They are all killed off in the Battle of Ar Mageddon now underway. Every one in the world will have to take sides in the final battle between good and evil.
Spoken like a true Crusader. I suspect you meant that to be a slur of some sort. But I am proud and honored to be called a Crusader for Christ.
Thank you. My only regret is that I am now too old to go to Iraq or Syria and help kill off the enemies of Jesus.
At most, you can only declare the ancient Pharisees as the enemies of Jesus. We read of their cunning and malice toward Jesus in scripture. Jesus is the savior of mankind and, as such, He has no enemies.
The 6th, 7th and 8th head of Satan are the prophesied enemies of Jesus. They are of course pagan Rome, Muslims (who trampled Jerusalem underfoot for 42 months of years as prophesied), and Hitler the antichrist (who caused 42 months of great tribulation as prophesied).
You forgot that the Grand Turk (caliph) of the Islamic Caliphate (Turkey's Mideast empire which dominated the Arab tribes) was, until the Ottoman collapse following WW I, supposedly the Gog/Magog mentioned in scripture. An immensely powerful nation north of Israel which matched well with scripture. The Scofield bible, a major source of apocalyptic in American Christianity, certainly pointed the finger at the Ottoman empire. That didn't pan out so well, did it? Following the Ottoman collapse and the Turkish retreat to their homeland, Britain/France divvied up the Mideast and drew the boundary lines of the modern Arab states. So we needed a new Gog/Magog. Fortunately, godless communism had arisen in the Russian sphere in the form of the USSR. So the Soviets were the new Gog/Magog for decades. Then the Soviet Union collapsed entirely. Another Gog/Magog that just didn't pan out. The writers of the apocalyptic books who told readers that the Soviets were, beyond a doubt, Gog/Magog didn't offer any refunds. After the Soviet collapse, apocalyptic writers began to suggest that it was the European Union who were the real Gog/Magog. Well, kind of disappointing, eh? During the Reformation, the pope was often depicted as the Antichrist and as Gog/Magog. Again, just when is that going to happen? Many people over the centuries have argued that one king or major power or another were those denoted in prophecy in scripture as "Gog/Magog". None of it has panned out so far. You can't use these as Christian justifications for killing the pagans/heathens in foreign lands in the name of Jesus. Jesus and His disciples believed in converting the heathens/pagans to Christ, not killing them. Even if it meant they were themselves killed in their missionary efforts.
Yes was there in 2003 for the invasion. Still had to cross the Tigris and then Euphrates and there was still water in the river. You may be discussing the greatly reduced marsh land and that is true, but no army could go through the area as they became salt and mud plains. There still exists ample marsh land in the south of Iraq as well. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
Oh His enemies will be under His feet for sure...But that is His job to do at the second advent. Justice will be in Christ's Hands, after the rejection of His Grace. Isaiah 61. Until then, patience, long-suffering, Grace. Judgment Day? He will mete out the Justice. So leave vengeance and justice in the Hands of Christ dear interpreter. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
I agree with very little that Scoffield said, but I do agree that Muslims, including Ottomon Turks, caused desolation for 1260 years as prophesied. It has nothing to do with Gog and Magog though. That happens a thousand years from now. And Moscow, which sits on 7 hills and many waters (5 seas) is the Great Whore that was briefly aligned with the antichrist before Hitler turned on her.
Justice is carried out by the followers of Jesus. The second advent, when Jesus returned with His kingdom, was in 312 AD when the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds and Jesus appeared to St. Constantine and said "By this, conquer." Ever since that day, called the turning point of history, Christian nations have been the dominant force on earth, and have been waging war with the enemies of Jesus as prophesied. And we will rule the earth to the end. Resistance is futile.
I don't share these sentiments in the least. God is far better than this. The love of God is far greater than this and patience is far more longstanding than to simply throw away souls because academic & ideological head knowledge, partially defined by DNA and upbringing, is too far removed in one direction or another. There is a time for all things, including taking a life when circumstances warrant it. But God doesn't need anyone to kill anyone else. Our purpose on earth is to grow spiritually. What happens in the world is not so important. Killing people because of what the do and do not believe is just as wrong when Christians do it as when Muslims do it.
If that were really true there would be less Christians in the world as there currently are Jews. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
So convincing in the era there was art depicting such: For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
All of the maps of Iraq that were made during the 9 year period show the lower 50 miles of the Euphrates as dry. The Jerusalem-Euphrates vector (or way) very accurately points to the three demon-possessed kings of the east who start (have started) the Battle of Ar Mageddon. That is, a line drawn from Jerusalem to the epicenter of where the Euphrates was dried up by Hussein, and then extended eastward, bisects Baghdad, Kabul and Raqqa (the capital of ISIS) like 3 ducks in a row. The first two "kings" have already been deposed and killed, and we are now bombing the hell out of Raqqa. When you extend the vector a bit further to the east, it perfectly bisects Tehran, also identified by George W Bush as part of the Axis of Evil that starts Ar Mageddon.
God's love is a very tough love. The flip side of His love is His wrath, and you don't want to get on that side.
Jesus has left vengeance and justice in the hands of His followers. God more or less follows the Star-Trek directive, which is "Interfere in the life of a planet only when deemed necessary for the survival of the planet and its intelligent life, and then only to the extent necessary.
No, God's love is not tough. And wrath is a human characteristic that is ascribed to God. Why? Because only the weak become angry. And God is not weak at all. God is all wise, all knowing. How then is it even possible to offend an all-wise and all knowing God? It is not possible. It's because of the weakness of people that people think God is subject to such vices as anger and jealousy. When you see a co-worker get angry and start yelling and such, the Christian response is something like "we need to pray for Mike, he's having a bad day". That's because we understand intuitively that such a reaction is a sign of weakness, no matter what it's a reaction to. Yet when God gets angry and jealous, somehow it's okay just because God is God. No, God does not get angry. He never has, and never will. Painting him as angry and wrathful is either a mistaken human personification of God or simply a tool through which to attempt to control the masses. We have complete free will. And any poor decisions or "sin" only impact ourselves only without impacting the love or patience God has for us.
Anyone subscribing to this is truly on par with ISIS type Islamic beheadings. The worst of the worst. I would counter by saying the Earth and all physical life on it, human or otherwise, is expendable. The greater good, infinitely more important, are the souls that inhabit it. God can create a new earth and a new human race easily enough, but each of us, as souls, are more valuable than the entire universe.
It wasn't dry along the last 50 miles of river. I saw it with my own eyes from the sky and ground in 2003, 2006-2008 and 2009-2010. If I am totally wrong then where was this Eastern Army? I ask because they never came over into Iraq. And now if you look at imagery there are no dry spots in the Euphrates. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
That's almost semi-Deist in concept. For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)
I've never heard such malarkey in my life. Have you ever heard of hell? That awaits you in the afterlife if you do not accept God and do your best to please Him and kill His enemies. In the OT, God often commanded the Israelites to kill entire nations, every last man, woman and child except for virgins that they could keep for their pleasure (i.e., to make their concubine or wife). And in the NT, Jesus commands us to kill His enemies. You need to read the Bible instead of making up stuff.
If you claim the lower Euphrates wasn't dry in April 2003 when you arrived in Iraq, then I suggest you either have a very faulty memory or you are a bald-face liar, or perhaps you arrived a bit too late because the Euphrates was restored shortly after the US arrived. I can draw no other conclusion because all the maps show it as dry, and I think there are still a few articles about it on the internet. I can probably find one for you if you want me to. The "way" of the demon-possessed kings of the east is the Jerusalem-dry Euphrates vector that points to all the kings of the East that start the Battle of Ar Mageddon. They don't necessarily cross it, though Hussein did and later ISIS did.
What is your point, and what do you mean by almost or semi? God is a deity by any standard, and not almost or semi.
Meh. Find me some New Testament scripture that designate the enemies of Christ. Pretty much, just the Pharisees of that era. Also, pharisaic types of any era, I suppose.
Nice photo of dear old Papa. What, you didn't think that Jack Chick invented this genre, did you? ; )
Kinda-sorta. The main difference is, God's closen people win the Battle with the 7th head of Satan, and ISIS loses bad and is killed off.
Luke 19:27
No, human life is not expendable. The earth is, but we are not. We are probably more valuable to God than the entire universe as you say. When we are all killed off a thousand years from now, we are resurrected and those found worthy get to go and live on a new earth without any sea, most likely Mars.
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#2. To: U don't know me (#0)
Spanish man skipped work for 6 years, still got paid
#3. To: U don't know me, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#0)
While Kerry Talks Ceasefire, US Allies Secretly Ship Grad Missiles to Syria Rebels
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The big news yesterday was that after some five hours of intense negotiation on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference, an agreement was reached between the major powers on a "cessation of hostilities" in Syria within the next week.
According to the agreement: The [International Syria Support Group] members agreed that a nationwide cessation of hostilities must be urgently implemented, and should apply to any party currently engaged in military or paramilitary hostilities against any other parties other than Daesh, Jabhat al-Nusra, or other groups designated as terrorist organizations by the United Nations Security Council. The ISSG members commit to exercise influence for an immediate and significant reduction in violence leading to the nationwide cessation of hostilities.
Now today -- just one day after the ceasefire agreement -- we discover that a massive shipment of ground-to-ground "Grad" missiles has been sent by US allies (and the CIA?) to rebels fighting against the Syrian government.
Reuters reports: 'It is excellent additional fire power for us,' said one of the commanders, who declined to be identified due to the sensitivity of the matter. The second rebel commander said the missiles were being used to hit army positions beyond the front line. 'They give the factions longer reach,' he said.
What are we to conclude by this dramatic turn of events? Two possibilities.
One, that since the deal is not finalized on paper the foreign powers backing regime change for Syria did not feel the need to halt the shipment and in fact may have hastened the delivery.
Two, that the "rebels" being supplied do not fall under the terms of the agreement spelled out above. In other words, the ceasefire does not apply to ISIS or al-Qaeda or affiliated forces, so perhaps the foreign Grad suppliers decided this is a two-way street: if Russia is still free to bomb the terrorist groups, then Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc. are still free to provide them weapons.
Does anyone have any confidence in this kind of ceasefire when either the "moderates" or named terrorist groups are being armed to the teeth on the eve of its implementation? Will the Russians begin to doubt the veracity of their western partners' commitment to halting the violence in Syria when they learn of this massive weapons shipment?
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#4. To: U don't know me (#0)
World War 3 Could Start This Month
#5. To: interpreter (#4)
#6. To: redleghunter (#5)
I was in Iraq on 4 combat tours. Where and when did the Euphrates dry up?
#7. To: redleghunter (#5)
#8. To: interpreter (#7)
I commend you for doing your part in killing the enemies of Jesus (as we are commanded to do in Luke 19:27).
#9. To: Pinguinite (#8)
I commend you for doing your part in killing the enemies of Jesus (as we are commanded to do in Luke 19:27).
#10. To: interpreter (#9)
I did my share of killing the enemies of Jesus in Viet Nam.
#11. To: interpreter (#9)
#12. To: interpreter (#9)
#13. To: Pinguinite (#11)
So how do you know who the enemies of Jesus are? Do you still love these enemies as you are executing them, as Jesus also commanded?
#14. To: TooConservative (#10)
I did my share of killing the enemies of Jesus in Viet Nam.
#15. To: Pinguinite (#12)
I have nothing against you. I do wish you well.
#16. To: interpreter (#15)
My only regret is that I am now too old to go to Iraq or Syria and help kill off the enemies of Jesus.
#17. To: TooConservative (#16)
Jesus is the savior of mankind and, as such, He has no enemies.
#18. To: interpreter, redleghunter, Pinguinite (#17)
The 6th, 7th and 8th head of Satan are the prophesied enemies of Jesus. They are of course pagan Rome, Muslims (who trampled Jerusalem underfoot for 42 months of years as prophesied), and Hitler the antichrist (who caused 42 months of great tribulation as prophesied).
#19. To: interpreter (#7)
May God bless you. I commend you for doing your part in killing the enemies of Jesus (as we are commanded to do in Luke 19:27). And if you were there in the first deployment of troops in Iraq in April of 2003, you would know that the Euphrates was dry. The lower 50 miles of the Euphrates, and the fertile marshes of the Garden of Eden, was dried up by Saddam Hussein in May, 1994. He did it to prepare the way for the kings of the east in the Battle of Ar Mageddon as prophesied. He did it with a couple dams and a diversion canal that he dubbed "The Mother of All Battles River." It was restored by the "Marsh Arabs" (who claim to have lived there since the days of the Garden of Eden) as soon as the US toppled Hussein.
#20. To: TooConservative, interpreter (#16)
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Jesus is the savior of mankind and, as such, He has no enemies.
#21. To: TooConservative (#18)
The Scofield bible, a major source of apocalyptic in American Christianity, certainly pointed the finger at the Ottoman empire.
#22. To: redleghunter (#20)
But that is His job to do at the second advent. Justice will be in Christ's Hands
#23. To: interpreter (#13)
An enemy of Jesus is defined by Jesus as any one who resists being ruled by a Christian nation. Our personal enemies has nothing to do with the enemies of Jesus. We are to love the one, and kill the other.
#24. To: TooConservative, interpreter, redleghunter, Pinguinite (#18)
You can't use these as Christian justifications for killing the pagans/heathens in foreign lands in the name of Jesus. Jesus and His disciples believed in converting the heathens/pagans to Christ, not killing them. Even if it meant they were themselves killed in their missionary efforts.
#25. To: TooConservative, interpreter (#18)
During the Reformation, the pope was often depicted as the Antichrist and as Gog/Magog. Again, just when is that going to happen?
#26. To: redleghunter (#19)
Yes was there in 2003 for the invasion. Still had to cross the Tigris and then Euphrates and there was still water in the river. You may be discussing the greatly reduced marsh land and that is true, but no army could go through the area as they became salt and mud plains. There still exists ample marsh land in the south of Iraq as well.
#27. To: Pinguinite (#23)
I don't share these sentiments in the least. God is far better than this. The love of God is far greater than this
#28. To: redleghunter (#20)
So leave vengeance and justice in the Hands of Christ dear interpreter.
#29. To: interpreter (#27)
God's love is a very tough love. The flip side of His love is His wrath, and you don't want to get on that side.
#30. To: interpreter (#28)
Jesus has left vengeance and justice in the hands of His followers.
God more or less follows the Star-Trek directive, which is "Interfere in the life of a planet only when deemed necessary for the survival of the planet and its intelligent life, and then only to the extent necessary.
#31. To: interpreter (#26)
All of the maps of Iraq that were made during the 9 year period show the lower 50 miles of the Euphrates as dry.
#32. To: interpreter (#28)
God more or less follows the Star-Trek directive, which is "Interfere in the life of a planet only when deemed necessary for the survival of the planet and its intelligent life, and then only to the extent necessary.
#33. To: Pinguinite (#29)
No, God does not get angry. He never has, and never will. Painting him as angry and wrathful is either a mistaken human personification of God or simply a tool through which to attempt to control the masses.
#34. To: redleghunter (#31)
#35. To: redleghunter (#32)
That's almost semi-Deist in concept.
#36. To: redleghunter (#20)
Isaiah 61.
#37. To: redleghunter (#25)
#38. To: Pinguinite (#30)
Anyone subscribing to this is truly on par with ISIS type Islamic beheadings.
#39. To: TooConservative (#36)
Meh. Find me some New Testament scripture that designate the enemies of Christ.
#40. To: Pinguinite (#30)
I would counter by saying the Earth and all physical life on it, human or otherwise, is expendable. The greater good, infinitely more important, are the souls that inhabit it. God can create a new earth and a new human race easily enough, but each of us, as souls, are more valuable than the entire universe.
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