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Title: World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria
Source: The Economic Collapse
URL Source: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/ ... abia-are-ready-to-invade-syria
Published: Feb 15, 2016
Author: Mike Snyder
Post Date: 2016-02-15 19:41:12 by U don't know me
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World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria By Michael Snyder, on February 14th, 2016

War Soldiers - Public Domain350,000 soldiers, 20,000 tanks, 2,450 warplanes and 460 military helicopters are massing in northern Saudi Arabia for a military exercise that is being called “Northern Thunder”. According to the official announcement, forces are being contributed by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, Sudan, Kuwait, Morocco, Pakistan, Tunisia, Oman, Qatar, Malaysia and several other nations. This exercise will reportedly last for 18 days, and during that time the airspace over northern Saudi Arabia will be closed to air traffic. This will be the largest military exercise in the history of the region, and it comes amid rumors that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are preparing for a massive ground invasion of Syria.

If you were going to gather forces for an invasion, this is precisely how you would do it. Governments never come out and publicly admit that forces are moving into position for an invasion ahead of time, so “military exercises” are a common excuse that gets used for this sort of thing.

If these exercises are actually being used as an excuse to mass forces near the northern Saudi border, then we should expect an invasion to begin within the next couple of weeks. If it happens, we should expect to see the Saudi coalition storm through western Iraq and into Syria from the south, and it is likely that Turkey will come in from the north.

The goal would be to take out the Assad regime before Russia, Iran and Hezbollah could react. For the past couple of years, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies have been funding the Sunni insurgency in Syria, and they were counting on those insurgents to be able to take down the Assad regime by themselves.

You see, the truth is that ISIS was never supposed to lose in Syria. Saudi Arabia and her allies have been funneling massive amounts of money to ISIS, and hundreds of millions of dollars of ISIS oil has been shipped into Turkey where it is sold to the rest of the world.

The major Sunni nations wanted ISIS and the other Sunni insurgent groups to take down Assad. In the aftermath, Saudi Arabia and her allies intended to transform Syria into a full-blown Sunni nation.

But then Russia, Iran and Hezbollah stepped forward to assist the Assad regime. Russian air support completely turned the tide of the war, and now the Sunni insurgents are on the brink of losing.

Aleppo was once the largest city in Syria, and Sunni insurgents have controlled it since 2012. But now relentless Russian airstrikes have made it possible for Syrian, Iranian and Hezbollah ground forces to surround the city, and it is about to fall back into the hands of the Syrian government.

If this happens, the war will essentially be over.

Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies have invested massive amounts of time, money and effort into overthrowing Assad, and they aren’t about to walk away now.

If the war was to end right at this moment, a weakened Assad regime would remain in power, and Iran and Hezbollah would be the dominant powers in the country for years to come. And once Assad died, it would be inevitable that Iran and Hezbollah would attempt to transform Syria into a full-blown Shiite nation. This is something that Saudi Arabia and Turkey want to avoid at all costs.

So they are actually considering what was once absolutely unthinkable – a massive ground invasion of Syria.

But if Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies go in, they run the risk of a full-blown war with Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. Just consider some of the comments that we have seen in recent days…

Reacting to a potential troop deployment, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem said Saturday, “Let no one think they can attack Syria or violate its sovereignty because I assure you any aggressor will return to their country in a wooden coffin.”

Pavel Krasheninnikov, a deputy of Russia’s State Duma, has warned Saudi Arabia that any military ground operation in Syria without Damascus’ consent would amount to a declaration of war, Press TV reported.

We could literally be looking at the spark that sets off World War 3. I can’t believe that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are actually considering this.

And if it does happen, you can rest assured that Barack Obama gave them the green light to go in.

Unfortunately, it sounds like the decision may have already been made. Just consider what Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu is saying…

“If we have such a strategy, then Turkey and Saudi Arabia may launch a ground operation,” he added, fueling concerns that a foreign troop invasion may soon further complicate the already turbulent situation in the war-torn country.

Earlier, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the UAE voiced their readiness to contribute troops for a ground operation in Syria on the condition that the US would lead the intervention. Damascus and its key regional ally, Iran, warned that such a foreign force would face strong resistance.

And in addition to all of the forces massing in northern Saudi Arabia, the London Independent is reporting that the Saudis have sent troops and aircraft to a military base in Turkey…

Saudi Arabia is sending troops and fighter jets to Turkey’s Incirlik military base ahead of a possible ground invasion of Syria.

The Turkish foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, confirmed the deployment in a statement to the Yeni ^afak newspaper on Saturday, days before a temporary ceasefire is due to come into force.

There are reports that Saudi officials are saying that the decision to send in ground troops is “irreversible”, and Reuters is reporting that the Syrian government claims that some Turkish troops have already entered the country…

The Syrian government says Turkish forces were believed to be among 100 gunmen it said entered Syria on Saturday accompanied by 12 pick-up trucks mounted with heavy machine guns, in an ongoing supply operation to insurgents fighting Damascus.

“The operation of supplying ammunition and weapons is continuing via the Bab al-Salama crossing to the Syrian area of Azaz,” the Syrian foreign ministry said in a letter to the U.N. Security Council published by state news agency SANA.

Of course the Turkish government is not going to confirm that report, but what we do know is that Turkey is shelling Kurdish forces on the Syrian side of the border. The funny thing is that these Kurdish forces are actually being supported and supplied by the U.S. government.

So the Turks are not supposed to be doing this, but according to Reuters they have been doing it for two days in a row anyway…

The Turkish army shelled positions held by Kurdish-backed militia in northern Syria for a second day on Sunday, killing two fighters, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said.

Turkey on Saturday demanded the powerful Syrian Kurdish YPG militia withdraw from areas that it had captured in the northern Aleppo region in recent days from insurgents in Syria, including the Menagh air base. The shelling has targeted those areas.

The hostility between Turkey and the Kurds goes back a long, long way. The Syrian Kurds are not threatening Turkey in any way right now, but Turkey is using the instability in the region as an excuse to lob artillery shells at a hated enemy. It is an act of naked aggression that the Obama administration should be loudly denouncing.

In addition, it is being reported that Syrian government forces have also been getting shelled by the Turkish military…

Anatolia news agency reported that the Turkish military hit Syrian government forces on Saturday, adding that the shelling had been in response to fire inflicted on a Turkish military guard post in Turkey’s southern Hatay region.

Turkish artillery targeted Syrian forces again late on Saturday, according to a military source quoted by RIA Novosti. The attack targeted the town of Deir Jamal in the Aleppo Governorate.

Needless to say, the Russians are quite alarmed by all of this.

In fact, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is warning about what could happen if things spiral out of control…

In the wake of Saudi Arabia’s proposal to send in ground troops on Thursday, the Russian Prime Minister claimed the move could spark a new world war.

“A ground operation draws everyone taking part in it into a war,” he told the Handelsblatt newspaper.

“The Americans and our Arab partners must consider whether or not they want a permanent war.”

If Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies launch an invasion and make a mad dash to take out the Assad regime in Damascus, the Russians will inevitably respond.

And if tactical nuclear weapons are necessary to keep the invading forces out of Damascus, the Russians will not be shy about using them.

I don’t know if I have ever seen a scenario which was more likely to initiate World War 3 than the one that we are watching unfold right now.

So what has the mainstream media been saying about all of this?

Incredibly, they have been almost entirely silent. When he went looking for news about these events, James Bailey could find almost nothing on either Fox News or CNN…

I just visited the home page for Foxnews.com and found not one single mention of the insane events now unfolding in the Middle East. I could not believe it, so I used my Find tool to search for Syria and Saudi Arabia. Not one mention!

Of course that could change at any moment, but nothing there when I checked. Their stories were all about the meaningless Presidential election, which has already been decided regardless of what we think about it, and other stories about entertainment, sports, Congressional political theater, etc.

So I went to CNN and found just about the same thing with one news story about the Syrian cease fire, but when I read it there was no mention of any of the big events that have developed this week. This is truly an amazing media blackout!

But Fox News does have space to run headlines like these…

–Spanish man skipped work for 6 years, still got paid

–48 people rescued from stuck tram cars at New Hampshire ski resort

–Lovelorn elephant takes out his rage on more than a dozen cars

And CNN apparently thinks that these news stories are more important than the potential beginning of World War 3…

If Saudi Arabia, Turkey and their allies are going to conduct an invasion of Syria, the most likely time for this to happen will be by the end of this month during these military exercises.

If we can get to March 1st and no invasion has happened yet, perhaps we can breathe a little sigh of relief.

But if it does happen, and the Russians and the Iranians decide to shoot back, it really could be the start of World War 3.

If you have not been paying attention up until now, you need to start, because this could literally change everything.

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#62. To: Pinguinite (#60)

But, you are in good company, I guess. There are people here who consider me "out there" as well with my views. But at least I have the advantage of having my views shared by others. Are your views shared by others or are they ones you came to on your own? I'm curious.

The vast majority of my interpretations of the Revelation are entirely my own, which took 50 years of extensive study to develop. But the Geneva Bible (carried by the Puritans) correctly identifies the first horseman as Constantine in the marginal notes, and long before that, the Patriarch of Jerusalem correctly identified the prophesied abomination of desolation in the Holy Spot as being Muslims and the Dome on the Rock.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-19   9:19:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#61)

Does a christian nation have faggot pretend marriage?

You may have a valid point there. I'm pretty sure that's one of the reasons God will soon replace the US with the 5th horseman.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-19   9:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#53)

Intrepreter should be false intrepreter.

As every one knows, any theory can only be proven by its ability to predict things. That includes eschatological theories. So in 1992 I began to test my theory by predicting things. Every year since then I have made my annual predictions, and every one of them have come true with 100 % accuracy. Meanwhile, Hal Lindsay and hundreds of other eschatologists have also made many predictions, and not one of them has ever come to pass as far as I know. In OT days they would have been stoned to death after making even one false prophecy. They are the main reason the world is laughing at Christians and Christianity. I aim to change that by getting my predictions out there for all the world to see and then Christianity will be respected again.

You can see my latest predictions at the7lastplagues.com. This year all of my predictions were fulfilled early, and something told me (and I believe it was God and/or His Holy Spirit) to post my predictions early. I usually post my predictions on December 31st, but this time I posted my predictions 4 weeks early. Exactly 24 hours later, prediction # 6, "Muslim immigrants will stage a Paris-style attack in the US" came true (in San Bernardino) A couple weeks after that, news began to break about the toxic water in Flint (prediction # 3), and a few day after that news began to break about a new disease called the Zika virus (prediction # 5). I have accurately predicted all the major events of the last 25 Years, but if I had not published by predictions early this time I would have missed three important events and my distractors could have accused me of missing 3 important events. God is good. There is no way anyone can legitimately call me a misinterpreter.

PS. The big news today is that January was the hottest month of all time by far. Temperatures in the artic were 7 degrees above normal. I'm pretty sure my prediction # 4 (that 2016 will be hottest year on record by far) is safe.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-19   10:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: interpreter (#64)

I aim to change that by getting my predictions out there for all the world to see and then Christianity will be respected again.

Okay, smart guy, which horse will win the Kentucky Derby on May 7,2016? To be safe, send in your answer by Private Message to me.

Here's a top ten list:

www.horseracingnation.com...ipses_Big_Ten_201622_123#

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-19   10:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Fred Mertz (#65)

Okay, smart guy, which horse will win the Kentucky Derby on May 7,2016? To be safe, send in your answer by Private Message to me.

Here's a top ten list:

I take great pride in my ability to predict things, but predicting horses is not one of them. Your welcome to ask me anything else.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-19   11:59:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: interpreter (#66)

I would invite you to post your predictions here for us to see in advance, if you don't mind the scrutiny. You choose the nature of it.

Sometimes predictions are reasonably obtuse, such that their coming true is reasonably inescapable. And sometimes predictions are open ended time wise such that waiting long enough inevitably generates an event sufficiently matching the prediction.

An impressive prediction is limited in time span for the event to occur, and also sufficiently detailed. Having both attributes rules out random chance as a significant crediting factor in the prediction.

In the spiritual model as I see it, likely aspects of the future are known, at least when viewed from the spirit world. To an extent, at the soul / deepest subconscious level, we usually have a pretty good idea of what will happen in terms of significant events, including life-changing accidents and such. Mostly this is in terms of our personal life events, but gifts are far ranging for all of us. So by way of disclaimer, I do not consider one's ability to predict the future accurately, or any other spiritual gift, to be proof that the person's theological understanding is accurate. The two are mutually exclusive.

Still, if you claim this ability, I would be interested in seeing it in action.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-19   13:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Pinguinite (#67)

I would invite you to post your predictions here for us to see in advance, if you don't mind the scrutiny. You choose the nature of it.

Sometimes predictions are reasonably obtuse, such that their coming true is reasonably inescapable. And sometimes predictions are open ended time wise such that waiting long enough inevitably generates an event sufficiently matching the prediction.

An impressive prediction is limited in time span for the event to occur, and also sufficiently detailed. Having both attributes rules out random chance as a significant crediting factor in the prediction.

In the spiritual model as I see it, likely aspects of the future are known, at least when viewed from the spirit world. To an extent, at the soul / deepest subconscious level, we usually have a pretty good idea of what will happen in terms of significant events, including life-changing accidents and such. Mostly this is in terms of our personal life events, but gifts are far ranging for all of us. So by way of disclaimer, I do not consider one's ability to predict the future accurately, or any other spiritual gift, to be proof that the person's theological understanding is accurate. The two are mutually exclusive.

Still, if you claim this ability, I would be interested in seeing it in action.

I posted my annual predictions on Liberty's Flame at the same time I posted them on the7lastplagues.com, back on Dec. 4th in "2016 in Bible Prophecy." That was my first post on LF.

As far as you wanting my predictions to fit your definition of a good prediction, I can only repeat and expand on what the Revelation says. On my website, from time to time I expand on my predictions and occasionally add new predictions, so you will want to go there if you want to see all my predictions.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-19   16:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Fred Mertz (#65)

Okay, smart guy, which horse will win the Kentucky Derby on May 7,2016? To be safe, send in your answer by Private Message to me.

Here's a top ten list:

www.horseracingnation.com...ipses_Big_Ten_201622_123#

LOL that was hilarious Fred.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-19   16:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: redleghunter (#69)

Hey, can't blame me for trying to get a life-changing score on the big race.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-19   16:49:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Fred Mertz, redleghunter (#70)

Hey, I can tell you the score of the next Super Bowl before the game begins.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-02-19   16:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Fred Mertz, Biff Tannen (#70)

Hey, can't blame me for trying to get a life-changing score on the big race.

I would expect such out of Biff first.

What happened to him BTW?

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-19   22:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: redleghunter (#72)

I hope you know that Biff Tannen's character was based on Donald Trump.

Rich kid, arrogant, wiff money and the power that that exudes.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-19   22:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: U don't know me (#0)

How do they know this is happening, though?

Also Turkey and Saudi Arabia got balls coming after Russia. I respect that.

ebonytwix  posted on  2016-02-19   23:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: interpreter (#68)

I posted my annual predictions on Liberty's Flame at the same time I posted them on the7lastplagues.com, back on Dec. 4th in "2016 in Bible Prophecy." That was my first post on LF.

Okay, well I found them and read them. Can't score you too many points on the San Bernardino though. After the Paris attacks, that was a pretty easy guess. ISIS themselves are calling for a hit in England. I was even calling for a major hit in the USA before 9/11, circa 1997/98.

To refresh:

1. The plague of unsightly and often deadly skin cancer will be around again, Among Aryans, especially those who worship the image of suntanned skin (Rev. 16:1-2)

2. Tides the color of a dead man's blood will again appear throughout every sea, And cause billions of fish to cease to be (Rev. 16:3)

3. Algae and pollution and brain-eating amoebas will appear in rivers and lakes, Making the earth's fresh water unsafe to intake (Rev. 16:4-7)

4. It will be another record-setting hot year, Adding high seas and heat strokes to things to fear (Rev. 16:8-9)

5. The darkness of atheism will increase, and men will gnaw their tongues and blaspheme God Almighty Because of strange new diseases in their body (Rev. 16:10-11)

6. The battle of Ar Mageddon has begun, When the Euphrates was dry on 9/11. It will escalate in 2016, both abroad in Syria and Iraq, And at home when Muslim immigrants stage a Paris-style attack. (Rev. 16:12-21)

7. The Good News is, the last face of Satan will soon be so soundly defeated (by a coalition of 24 nations that drop exceedingly great hail) That He wont be heard from again for a millennial. It begins in 2016 when a 24th Christian nation, Montenegro, Will be added to the coalition called NATO. (see Rev. 4:4, 16:21, 20:4)

Gotta say, numbers 1, 3 & 5 are rather vague. #2 & 4 are more particular. Have to wait till year end and see. There's already disagreement on this thread about the rivers in question being dry or not. We'll see about Montenegro. That's a country smaller than most western cities so their joining NATO might be surprising.

As far as you wanting my predictions to fit your definition of a good prediction, I can only repeat and expand on what the Revelation says. On my website, from time to time I expand on my predictions and occasionally add new predictions, so you will want to go there if you want to see all my predictions.

No, you are not allowed to expand on predictions. At least not after the time frame starts. That's cheating!

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-20   1:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Pinguinite (#75)

You missed the falling heavens

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-20   7:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Pinguinite (#75) (Edited)

Okay, well I found them and read them. Can't score you too many points on the San Bernardino though. After the Paris attacks, that was a pretty easy guess. ISIS themselves are calling for a hit in England. I was even calling for a major hit in the USA before 9/11, circa 1997/98.

Yes, about half of America and especially Trump and Cruz was telling Obama that there would be a Paris-style attack if we let in more Muslim immigrants, but he did it anyhow. I sent my predictions to all the major newspapers in the US, but none of them would publish them because I said there would be a terrorist attack in the US staged by Muslim immigrants. And I sent a British version of my predictions to all the major newspapers in Britain that predicted there would be a Paris-style attack there as well (staged by Islamic immigrants) but they also refused to publish such a politically incorrect statement. But I tried my best to warn everybody, and if I knew any German I would have sent a version of my predictions there where there is the greatest danger of a major attack because of the 1 million Muslim immigrants taken in last year.

I didn't make my prediction about a major hit in the USA in 97 or 98 like you did, but waited until the eve of 2001 because the Bible indicates the Battle of Ar Mageddon begins at the start of the Great Day of God Almighty which is the 7th 1000 year day of the Genesis 1 prophecy. That of course is the beginning of the 3rd millenniun AD, or 2001. And the Revelation says the Euphrates would be dry at that time, and I knew that the lower Euphrates was dry, so yes, it was pretty much a no-brainer to anyone who knows the Bible and watches the news. But no one said it except me as far as I know, although some Christians were saying Jesus would come back at that time. The third millennium AD is called That Great Day of God Almighty because the Battle of Ar Mageddon results in the latest face of the 7th head of Satan being so soundly defeated (by a US-led coalition of 24 nations dropping "exceedingly great hail") that He wont be heard from again for a thousand years, allowing the 24 Christian nations to rule the Earth for Jesus in peace for a millennium.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   10:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: paraclete (#76)

You missed the falling heavens

Not really. There was a major meteor shower (or falling stars) on Oct. 27th, 312 AD when the sign of Christ appeared in the sky and Jesus returned with a kingdom.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   10:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Pinguinite (#75)

Gotta say, numbers 1, 3 & 5 are rather vague. #2 & 4 are more particular. Have to wait till year end and see. There's already disagreement on this thread about the rivers in question being dry or not. We'll see about Montenegro. That's a country smaller than most western cities so their joining NATO might be surprising.

If I am a bit vague in a few cases, it is because the Revelation is a bit vague.

You don't have to wait until the end of the year to see if my predictions come true or not. Most all of them have already come true, or at least in part. Far example, January was the hottest month in the history of earth, and by far. And NATO has already invited Montenegro to join NATO and all that is left is for Montenegrins to vote on it. Yes, Montenegro is the smallest nation on earth, but the Serbs, and especially the Montnegrins, are known as the fiercest fighters on earth. Montenegro is the only eastern European nation that was never conquered by the Islamic hordes. They couldn't do it. When the Turks managed to take one Montenegrin city, the Serbs regrouped on Montenegro (the tiny nation is essentially one big mountain with a lot of places to hide and regroup) and then swooped down and killed every last man, woman and child. They still sing a song about it to this day.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   11:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: interpreter (#79)

And NATO has already invited Montenegro to join NATO and all that is left is for Montenegrins to vote on it.

Okay, looking this up, on Dec 2, 2015 Montenegro was asked to join NATO. That was 3 weeks prior to your prediction that they would end up joining.

So your prediction is not a Revelation prediction. It's a CNN prediction.

There's no points scored there, buddy.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-20   12:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Pinguinite (#80)

Okay, looking this up, on Dec 2, 2015 Montenegro was asked to join NATO. That was 3 weeks prior to your prediction that they would end up joining.

So your prediction is not a Revelation prediction. It's a CNN prediction.

Two days before. All of my predictions are a result of comparing the news to the Revelation.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   12:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Pinguinite (#75)

No, you are not allowed to expand on predictions. At least not after the time frame starts. That's cheating!

Unlike Hal Lindsay, et al, I have never had to change even one of my predictions. I credit Hal Lindsay for rekindling my interest in the Revelation in 1969 with "The Late, Great Planet Earth." But none of his predictions came true, so he published another book a few years later, where he modified his predictions a little and republished them. When none of those prediction came true, he published another book. And now he is on TV so he can (and does) modify his predictions almost daily.

As far as me expanding on my predictions, they are a short poem (that has to rhyme), and it has to be very brief and concise to be submitted to newspapers, who limit submissions to so many words. So I have added more details, and some new but related predictions, in my blog.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   13:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: interpreter (#81)

Two days before. All of my predictions are a result of comparing the news to the Revelation.

Montenegro formally asked to join NATO on Dec 2:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Montenegro_to_NATO

Your first post here on LF predicting their joining was Dec 22, 20 days later.

Do you have another public posting which predates Dec 2?

And Montenegro was *formally* asked on Dec 2, suggesting it was well in the air before Dec 2.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-20   13:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Pinguinite (#83)

Montenegro formally asked to join NATO on Dec 2:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Montenegro_to_NATO

Your first post here on LF predicting their joining was Dec 22, 20 days later.

Do you have another public posting which predates Dec 2?

And Montenegro was *formally* asked on Dec 2, suggesting it was well in the air before Dec 2.

I posted my annual predictions on the7lastplagues.com on December 4th, 2 days later. Then a bit later I heard about Liberty's Flame, and posted them here.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   14:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Pinguinite (#83)

Montenegro formally asked to join NATO on Dec 2:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Montenegro_to_NATO

Your first post here on LF predicting their joining was Dec 22, 20 days later.

Do you have another public posting which predates Dec 2?

And Montenegro was *formally* asked on Dec 2, suggesting it was well in the air before Dec 2.

If you didn't like that one, let me make a new prediction. At some point all the Serbs in Montenegro, Serbia, Kosovo and Bosnia will unite as one in Greater Serbia as also prophesied by Serbia's flag. Then the Serbs will be one of the biggest nations in NATO and someday surpass the US in power. I plan to add that to my website at some point, probably in 2017 in Bible Prophecy.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   14:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: interpreter (#85)

Then the Serbs will be one of the biggest nations in NATO and someday surpass the US in power.

Dream on. Wasn't there such a nation once it was called Yugoslavia, at no time in it's wildest dreams was it as powerful as the US or other European nations

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-20   16:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: paraclete (#86) (Edited)

Dream on. Wasn't there such a nation once it was called Yugoslavia, at no time in it's wildest dreams was it as powerful as the US or other European nations.

It could have been, except for Yugoslavia included a lot of Muslims and Roman Catholics and atheists, and was doomed to failure. There wont be any Muslims or Catholics or atheists in the coming Greater Serbia.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   17:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Pinguinite (#60) (Edited)

I thought when Jesus comes back, it would be in a fashion that no one would be able to deny, as lightning flashes from the east to the west, and with every knee bowing. That sort of thing. And whatever happened in 312 AD or so apparently failed to make that universal, irrevocable impression.

In the 4th century, soon after Jesus returned, pretty much all the known world became Christians and bowed to Jesus (in Church). It pretty much stayed that way for three centuries, until the 7th head of Satan appeared on the scene (i.e, Mohammed and his followers). It is true that the excommunicated Arian Christians (deemed heretics) captured much of the known world including Rome, but they too bowed to Jesus.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   17:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: interpreter (#87) (Edited)

There wont be any Muslims or Catholics or atheists in the coming Greater Serbia.

In this orthadox utopia do you intend to put all others to the sword?

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-20   20:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: paraclete (#89)

In this orthadox utopia do you intend to put all others to the sword?

That's up to the Serbs not me, but I suspect most of them will simply be deported from Serbian lands.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   21:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Pinguinite (#60)

I thought when Jesus comes back, it would be in a fashion that no one would be able to deny, as lightning flashes from the east to the west, and with every knee bowing. That sort of thing. And whatever happened in 312 AD or so apparently failed to make that universal, irrevocable impression.

(Cont'd) Virtually every eye on earth saw the sign of Christ in the sky. If it was too cloudy or they didn't venture outside that night, they soon saw it on all Roman armor, and on Roman coins, and in all churches. It is still prominently displayed in all Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches to this day. So there is no way anyone can say it didn't make a great, lasting and universal impression.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-20   21:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: interpreter (#91)

So there is no way anyone can say it didn't make a great, lasting and universal impression.

You're a nut job.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-20   21:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#92)

I think he fits in just fine around these parts. :)

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-21   1:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: interpreter (#84)

I posted my annual predictions on the7lastplagues.com on December 4th, 2 days later. Then a bit later I heard about Liberty's Flame, and posted them here.

Dec 4 is still two days after Montenegro was asked to join NATO. So predicting they would say yes is hardly anything that could be credited to some kind of divine inspiration.

You may be skilled at deriving likely world events by paying attention to the news, but there's nothing suggesting that your references with Revelation are contributing to any success you may be having in that field. The bulk of Revelation is extremely symbolic to the point where symbols could be matched up to just about anything the reader wishes.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-21   3:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: interpreter (#85)

If you didn't like that one, let me make a new prediction. At some point all the Serbs in Montenegro, Serbia, Kosovo and Bosnia will unite as one in Greater Serbia as also prophesied by Serbia's flag. Then the Serbs will be one of the biggest nations in NATO and someday surpass the US in power. I plan to add that to my website at some point, probably in 2017 in Bible Prophecy.

Saying "at some point" doesn't pass the prophecy test. You have to give a window of time in which it will happen as it's simply not acceptable to perpetually say to wait a little longer.

No dice.

While some of your predictions for 2016 are somewhat higher quality, on at least the Montenegro/NATO prediction, I have to award you the "I award you no points" award.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-21   3:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Pinguinite (#95) (Edited)

Saying "at some point" doesn't pass the prophecy test. You have to give a window of time in which it will happen as it's simply not acceptable to perpetually say to wait a little longer.

No dice.

While some of your predictions for 2016 are somewhat higher quality, on at least the Montenegro/NATO prediction, I have to award you the "I award you no points" award.

I said I would predict it when the time comes, probably in 2017 in Bible Prophecy. What more do you want? I certainly don't want to get ahead of God's timetable and have people call me a false prophet.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-21   9:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Pinguinite (#94)

Dec 4 is still two days after Montenegro was asked to join NATO. So predicting they would say yes is hardly anything that could be credited to some kind of divine inspiration.

You may be skilled at deriving likely world events by paying attention to the news, but there's nothing suggesting that your references with Revelation are contributing to any success you may be having in that field. The bulk of Revelation is extremely symbolic to the point where symbols could be matched up to just about anything the reader wishes.

You couldn't be more wrong. Everything I say is based on the Revelation. The Revelation clearly signifies that 24 Christian nations will kill off the latest face of the 7th head of Satan, and Satan wont be heard from again for a thousand years, allowing those 24 nations to rule the earth in peace for Jesus for a millennium. And it signifies that one of the 24 nations is the 5th horseman (who is described in great detail in chapter 19, and can only be Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-21   10:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: interpreter (#97)

Everything I say is based on the Revelation. The Revelation clearly signifies that 24 Christian nations will kill off the latest face of the 7th head of Satan, and Satan wont be heard from again for a thousand years, allowing those 24 nations to rule the earth in peace for Jesus for a millennium. And it signifies that one of the 24 nations is the 5th horseman (who is described in great detail in chapter 19, and can only be Slobodan Milosevic and the Serbs.

You are a complete idiot.

buckeroo  posted on  2016-02-21   10:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: interpreter (#96)

I certainly don't want to get ahead of God's timetable and have people call me a false prophet.

Well, seeing how you already advocated the murder/genocide of entire peoples based on their theological beliefs, I think you're past that point already, honestly. That alone has put you in the same murderous camp as Islamic "extremists", if that is what they are, who do the exact same thing for the exact same reason. You are perfectly content to deprive people of the full life that God gave them, depriving them of the full opportunity to become enlightened to Christianity, choosing arrogantly to kill them based on a single bible verse rather than willingly consider other verses where Jesus instructs disciples to do no more than shake the dust off their feet as they leave a town that rejects the message.

You miss the entire boat. Hell, you're missing the entire ocean that the boat is in. Even if you end up being right on your predictions, even if 100% right, do you really think that's what impresses God?

I'll tell you what I believe. God loves all of us, and He really doesn't care about our head knowledge which is all too often simply a result of our upbringing, and by that I'm referring to theology. God does not become angry, jealous or wrathful, all of which are characteristics of weakness, and completely inconsistent of an entity that is already understood to be endless in wisdom and knowledge. (Tell me how it is possible to piss off someone who already knows all there is to know about you, everything you are ever going to do, and who loves you more than you could ever fathom? You can't!!! LOL)

And why would this same God, who is all-powerful in ADDITION to being all wise and all knowing, bother to create an entire spiritual system where the vast majority of his children end up burning in hell forever? That's one question never asked, as it's always simply assumed that God had no control over the matter of sin and hell, certainly implying that he's not quite so all powerful as otherwise advertised.

Our purpose on earth is hardly to promote the glory of God, at least in the sense of promoting an alleged divine sense of narcissism that this all wise and all knowing God supposedly possesses. That as though it is really important to an all powerful God what even an entire planet full of people living on a tiny speck of dust in the universe thinks of him.

Our purpose on earth is simply to grow. We all came here with that mission. We are here primarily for the benefit of ourselves, to overcome vices and pains. To learn to become loving examples to those around us even in the face of tragedy and adversity -- things which, in this context, take on a spiritual purpose & meaning, and I'm talking about things even so severe as when parents have a young child die. There is a practical purpose for it, for the direct benefit of the parents. It's not simply because God wants another angel and he doesn't care about the parents. Nothing could be more untrue.

Interpreter, we are immortal. All of us. Our bodies are mortal, but we as souls are not, which is why the contents of our mortal brains is of no importance. Our immortal souls are where the bulk of our identity resides, including our virtues and vices, both of which we are here on earth to embellish an overcome, respectively. And yes, one lifetime is usually insufficient to overcome such things, but when the soul is immortal, there is no reason to be limited to a single lifetime.

In the end, we have God who is all wise, all knowing, all powerful, all loving, and endlessly patient, and never condemning. We have complete free will, and yet complete accountability for our actions, and very pragmatic reasons for life's pains and troubles. There is no need for any hell to exist that swallows up the vast majority of us, all of us being the recipients of incomprehensible love.

This is, objectively speaking, a theology which has superior qualities to the basic Christian model -- not that the result of such a comparison is, by itself, proof of truth, but it's something that ought to be considered by any open mind. Nor would I say that Christianity is completely wrong or a bad faith. Neither is true, as there are many good and theologically accurate qualities true Christianity has.

But I would maintain that your predictions, even if 100% accurate (which I'm not convinced of), are completely irrelevant.

My best to you...

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-21   13:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Pinguinite (#99) (Edited)

But I would maintain that your predictions, even if 100% accurate (which I'm not convinced of), are completely irrelevant.

Then you are 100 % wrong. The fulfillment of 100 % of my predictions since 1992 proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that my eschatology including my theology is 100 % right. And God often calls for the murder/genocide of entire peoples (like ISIS), and it is entirely based on their theological beliefs. God's love is a very tough love.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-21   16:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: interpreter (#100) (Edited)

And God often calls for the murder/genocide of entire peoples (like ISIS), and it is entirely based on their theological beliefs. God's love is a very tough love.

God doesn't do this as a general rule. You cannot make a rule out of an instance otherwise you are a pharassee. God determined that the cannanites were a people who worshiped Baal and made human sacrifice, therefore he told the Israelites to drive them out so they wouldn't be contaminated. Hey told the Israelites to destroy the amalakites for their practices also. I don't recall he told the jews to destroy the romans and they were pagans. The israelites failed in these tasks thus we have problems today as a result park that in your es eschatology

He may choose to judge Daesh in the same way because of their practices, we shall see

paraclete  posted on  2016-02-21   20:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: paraclete (#101)

God doesn't do this as a general rule. You cannot make a rule out of an instance otherwise you are a pharassee. God determined that the cannanites were a people who worshiped Baal and made human sacrifice, therefore he told the Israelites to drive them out so they wouldn't be contaminated. Hey told the Israelites to destroy the amalakites for their practices also. I don't recall he told the jews to destroy the romans and they were pagans. The israelites failed in these tasks thus we have problems today as a result park that in your es eschatology

He may choose to judge Daesh in the same way because of their practices, we shall see

God makes the rules not me. And by your own admission, God often called for the Israelites to wipe out entire nations, including every man, woman and child with the exception of the virgins who they were allowed to keep for their pleasure. His general rule is, those who kill His chosen people (chosen to rule the earth) must be killed off. The Israelites did an excellent job of killing off their enemies except when it came to the Roman pagans who were too powerful. That had to wait for the second coming of Jesus.

The three big enemies of Jesus that have been, or will be, killed off are pagan Rome, Hitler and his followers, and Muslims (maybe not all Muslims but at least Al Qaida/ISIS types). They are the 6th, 7th and 8th heads of Satan. When the last militant Muslim is dead, God's chosen people will rule the earth in peace for a thousand years.

interpreter  posted on  2016-02-21   23:11:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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