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Title: Donald Trump claims Ted Cruz 'stole' Iowa caucuses and calls for new election
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ ... ole-iowa-caucuses-new-election
Published: Feb 3, 2016
Author: The Guardian
Post Date: 2016-02-03 12:17:50 by Stoner
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The businessman, who came in second in Iowa, tweets that Cruz committed fraud by telling voters that Ben Carson was quitting the race Play Mute Current Time 0:00 / Duration Time 1:08 Loaded: 0% Progress: 0% Donald Trump speaks about the results of the Iowa caucuses.

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Donald Trump has claimed Ted Cruz committed “fraud” in his successful campaign to win the Republican Iowa caucuses on Monday, and has called for a new election. Live Trump calls for Iowa do-over after second-place finish – campaign live Follow live-wire coverage of the 2016 election as Kentucky senator Rand Paul suspends his campaign and Trump accuses Cruz of stealing Iowa Read more

The businessman, who came in second in Iowa, tweeted:

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 3, 2016

Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified.

Earlier, Trump accused Cruz of “stealing” the election in the key state, the first to vote in this stage of the 2016 presidential election.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 3, 2016

Ted Cruz didn't win Iowa, he stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!

He accused the Cruz campaign of telling Iowa voters that fellow candidate Ben Carson was quitting the race so he could steal Carson’s votes.

“During primetime of the Iowa Caucus, Cruz put out a release that @RealBenCarson was quitting the race, and to caucus (or vote) for Cruz,” Trump wrote. “Many people voted for Cruz over Carson because of this Cruz fraud. Also, Cruz sent out a VOTER VIOLATION certificate to thousands of voters.

“The Voter Violation certificate gave poor marks to the unsuspecting voter (grade of F) and told them to clear it up by voting for Cruz. Fraud.”

He added that “Cruz strongly told thousands of caucusgoers (voters) that Trump was strongly in favor of Obamacare and ‘choice’ – a total lie!”

Cruz had issued an apology of sorts to the Carson campaign for spreading the rumor on election night that Carson was dropping out of the race, which Cruz characterized as an honest “mistake”: Sign up for the Campaign Minute - the election condensed every day Read more

“Last night when our political team saw the CNN post saying that Dr Carson was not carrying on to New Hampshire and South Carolina, our campaign updated grassroots leaders just as we would with any breaking news story,” Cruz said in a statement on Tuesday.

“That’s fair game. What the team then should have done was send around the follow-up statement from the Carson campaign clarifying that he was indeed staying in the race when that came out.”

In addition, the Texas senator and his presidential campaign were formally denounced by top state officials for sending mailers to Iowa voters accusing them of a “voting violation” – in an apparent effort to scare voters to the polls.

The mailers included a voting score and included the phrase “official public record”. They referred to the recipients by name, and also their neighbors, as part of a broader attempt to shame them for not having participated in prior elections.

Some campaign observers criticized Trump for decrying what was simply politics as usual. Stuart Stevens, a former strategist for 2012 Republican candidate Mitt Romney, wrote: To beat John McCain in South Carolina in 2000, the George W Bush campaign used a Bible professor to spread a rumor that “McCain chose to sire children without marriage”. Lee Atwater helped George HW Bush beat Michael Dukakis in 1988 by cutting a racist commercial tying Dukakis to a rape and stabbing by convicted murderer Willie Horton while on furlough.


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#1. To: Stoner (#0)

Poor Donald.

Good luck with this endeavor. Maybe you can invoke eminent domain in here somehow.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-02-03   12:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Stoner (#0)

He accused the Cruz campaign of telling Iowa voters that fellow candidate Ben Carson was quitting the race so he could steal Carson’s votes.

Has Trump (or Carson) found even a single voter who switched their vote or went home without voting because of this rumor? What, no Carson supporter tweeted out that they were so unhappy he was dropping out that they were going home or switching their vote?

Let's see these Carson vote-switchers in Iowa. Or shaddup.

Of course, Trump has to whine like some big baby, begging for a do-over because he lost.

Trump can't take being a loser. But he is a loser in Iowa.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   12:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner, recount, algore, sore loserman (#0)

Do over. Count every vote, until I win! ~Al Gore/Donald Trump

Trump = AlGore

Trump's a loser like algore, deal with it!


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2016-02-03   12:35:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Stoner (#0)

Trump fights.

This is the great thing about him.

Truth is, we tolerate lies in politics that ARE criminal fraud in business. If Cruz's campaign were a business and published what they published regarding Carson in a business context, they would be sued, and Carson would win.

There is no right to deceive people to cause them to sign a contract or take an action.

Politicians exempt themselves from their lies, but Trump is a businessman, and he is holding a politician, Cruz, accountable for his organization's lies. He is holding a politician accountable to the higher BUSINESS standard of honesty.

And that's great, because America DESERVES to have its politicians held to the same standard of honesty that the laws the politicians pass hold every one of US to.

This sort of fighting is great, because there's no damned reason why the people should have to settle for lies from politicians as "business as usual".

Cruz may be the first politician in modern history to actually be held ACCOUNTABLE for lying to "win". (And what did he "win"? One more delegate than Trump and Rubio. woo hoo.)

If Trump is the nominee, Hillary will be the second politician held accountable for her lies, because he will call her a liar to her face, repeatedly, in open debate and open mikes. The media has covered for her, but they can't bleep out Trump.

Now, we all KNOW that Hillary is a liar. Did you hear the DEMOCRATS chanting "Hillary's a liar!" in the Bernie Sanders events? We all know it, but nobody says it in a forum where she cannot escape.

Trump will stand there in a televised debate and call her a liar to her face, over and over, and she won't be able to run away, and the media will have to show it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-03   12:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter, hondo68 (#4)

Trump fights.

Also, cries like a little girl when he loses.

How long until we hear... ???

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   12:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#5)

Trump didn't LOSE anything.

Caucuses are not "first past the post" or "winner take all". People get delegates proportionally. Cruz got 8. Trump and Rubio got 7.

Cruz's organization tweeted a lie to try to induce voters to vote for Cruz, since Carson was supposedly "out". That's fraud.

Trump is right to call attention to it and to hammer Cruz on it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-03   12:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

Trump just can't take getting beaten by a Canadian anchor baby.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   12:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative, All (#6)

Cruz's organization tweeted a lie to try to induce voters to vote for Cruz, since Carson was supposedly "out". That's fraud.

Trump is right to call attention to it and to hammer Cruz on it.

Get your facts straight for once. It was CNN that first reported that Carson was heading to Florida, not Cruz. The Cruz campaign just repeated what CNN reported albeit with a little bit of spin.

Trump the Turd is showing. If he keeps this up (which he likely will) he will also lose New Hampshire as well. I wonder who he will blame then?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-02-03   12:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Stoner (#0)

sounds like a loser's lament to me.

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-03   13:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13 (#4)

And that's great, because America DESERVES to have its politicians held to the same standard of honesty that the laws the politicians pass hold every one of US to.

Yeah we deserve a businessman who used his ties to organized crime in the NY/NJ area as a business asset . ("Trump: The Deals and the Downfall" by New York investigative journalist Wayne Barrett)

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-03   13:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SOSO (#8)

It was CNN that first reported that Carson was heading to Florida, not Cruz. The Cruz campaign just repeated what CNN reported albeit with a little bit of spin.

CNN initially reported on their website that Carson was suspending his campaign. Later, they changed it and ran it as "Carson taking a break from campaign" on their on-air chyron graphics. They didn't really provide much in the way of corrections for some time.

Steve King apparently was the one trying to fan the Carson-quit flames, more so than Cruz's own staffers.

Doesn't everyone have cellphones now? How hard is it for Carson's precinct captains to call their campaign handlers to get the straight scoop?

Carson was whining last night that his wife got up to speak at a precinct right after some Cruz supporter told them that Carson had dropped out. Well, okay. But Carson couldn't cite any of his supporters switching to someone else or just going home.

In the precincts, the precinct captains for every candidate have a chance to speak and can say anything they want. They often do. They can repeat rumors about Canadian anchor babies, candidates dropping out, etc.

Even if a few Carson supporters switched to Cruz, you can't prove they weren't already edging toward a switch anyway. It was obvious Carson had peaked way too early and wasn't going to win anything because he's a lousy speaker and a poor retail pol. Also, it became apparent in the last month that Carson simply has no real organization anywhere else in the country. He was all-in for Iowa and nowhere else. His campaign, like Herman Cain in 2012, looked a lot like a book tour or a job application to get a show on Fox News, like Huckabee did in 2009. All Carson does is raise money on Facebook, not build a real national campaign.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   13:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: SOSO, tomder55, Vicomte13, Stoner (#8)

I see Palin is Facebooking again today.

Dirty Politics: Witnessing Firsthand It's Always Heartbreaking, Never Surprising

Thank heavens Donald Trump opened so many eyes to the lies, corruption and total lack of accountability that come so naturally to the permanent political class. And Sen. Ted Cruz was spot on when he once noted that "millions of Americans are asking for accountability and truth." Which is why it's so curious - and saddens us - this lack of accountability with the lies of Cruz's own campaign.

Cruz's campaign chairman, U.S. Representative Steve King, is lying, and good for Dr. Ben Carson for calling this out. King, who's previously asked for and received my endorsement, time and resources to support his own election, is still lying about my altruistic support of Mr. Trump, and he's refused to provide any evidence to the contrary. And, this U.S. Congressman actually lied to his own constituents on behalf of Cruz, regarding a good man, Dr. Carson. He told voters Carson was dropping out of the Presidential race immediately before the Iowa caucus, causing a relative uproar inside the process, so the word would spread and he could rack up more votes for his candidate, Cruz. That's a dirty trick. Dr. Carson deserved better. The voters deserved better!

Where is the accountability for these political actions? Very sad; typical Washington tactics. THIS is why "the status quo has got to go."

Our friend Dr. Carson put it so well:

"As Christians, of course we accept people’s apologies, we also have to ask ourselves is this acceptable to us, the American people, or should there be some accountability? There should be some consequences for things. You don’t just say ‘oh, okay, sorry… okay let’s move on.’ The damage was done to me, it wasn’t done to them.”

We've had eight years of a reckless President, accountable to no one, pushing this country to the brink. Why would we ever take a risk repeating that? We are never going to turn this country around if we keep electing "more of the same." Just like conservatives have been preaching in opposition to Obama's political tactics for years: actions speak louder than words.

The Cruz Campaign's actions to destroy a good man's efforts to serve are no different than Obama's practice of not holding anyone accountable. Typical politics. Typical politicians. Here's background:

Ben Carson: Cruz's Apology Needs Accountability: http://www.foxbusiness.com/…/ben-carson-cruzs-apology-needs…

Steve King Refuses to Answer CNN's Jake Tapper If He Has Any Evidence Trump Bought Palin’s Support: http://www.cnn.com/…/…/02/02/lead-king-on-trump-and-cruz.cnn

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   13:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative, SOSO, Vicomte13, Stoner (#12)

Even if a few Carson supporters switched to Cruz, you can't prove they weren't already edging toward a switch anyway. It was obvious Carson had peaked way too early and wasn't going to win anything because he's a lousy speaker and a poor retail pol. Also, it became apparent in the last month that Carson simply has no real organization anywhere else in the country. He was all-in for Iowa and nowhere else. His campaign, like Herman Cain in 2012, looked a lot like a book tour or a job application to get a show on Fox News, like Huckabee did in 2009. All Carson does is raise money on Facebook, not build a real national campaign.

I see Palin is Facebooking again today.

Wondering where Palin was when Trump was mercilessly mocking Carson's bio and questioning his character ? I guess that stuff didn't qualify as dirty politics.

"If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools." Plato

tomder55  posted on  2016-02-03   14:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#7)

Partisan blah-blah.

Nominate Cruz or Rubio, and lose.

Nominate Trump and win.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-02-03   14:34:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#11)

His campaign, like Herman Cain in 2012, looked a lot like a book tour or a job application to get a show on Fox News, like Huckabee did in 2009. All Carson does is raise money on Facebook, not build a real national campaign.

Huck plays guitar and has a folksie personality which got some ratings in obscure cable news channel time slots.

No way Fox News execs are going to put a highly intelligent, well mannered yet somnolent professional on a show to rouse up the masses.

Instead Carson has quite a nice future with this program:

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-03   15:23:51 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#12)

I see Palin is Facebooking again today.

"hell hath no fury..."

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-03   15:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: tomder55 (#13)

Wondering where Palin was when Trump was mercilessly mocking Carson's bio and questioning his character ? I guess that stuff didn't qualify as dirty politics.

Indeed.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-03   15:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Vicomte13 (#14)

Nominate Cruz or Rubio, and lose.

Nominate Trump and win.

The primary season is just beginning. We will see how all three hold up with some heat and moderate pressure.

For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:6-8)

redleghunter  posted on  2016-02-03   15:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#15)

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Next time, you might want to try:

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And you'll get this:


I don't get why Carson should host a show about the Marianas Trench. How about a PBS show about pyramids being used as granaries?

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   15:33:53 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: redleghunter (#18)

The primary season is just beginning.

The Trumpkins essentially demand we hand the nomination to Trump, no questions asked, no pesky primaries or campaigning either.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   15:35:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: redleghunter (#16)

I see Palin is Facebooking again today.

Palin haunts Facebook as much as Trump hangs out on Twitter.

You think Trump would pick Palin for VP or go for Scott Brown instead?

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   15:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative (#14)

Nominate Trump and win.

That's what Hillary and the DRat thugs are telling their faithful, i.e. - they nominate Trump we win.

Haven't you figured it out yet? Trump is a shill for the Clintons.

OTOH Evita and thugs fear a Rubio-Fiorina ticket.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-02-03   15:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SOSO (#22)

Haven't you figured it out yet? Trump is a shill for the Clintons.

Trump is Perot v2.0.

Even Bill Xlinton couldn't win without a shill dividing the GOP vote. Hitlery is even worse.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   15:40:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TooConservative, redleghunter, All (#21)

You think Trump would pick Palin for VP or go for Scott Brown instead?

Not a chance. He is more likely to go for Carson than either of those (don't know if Carson would accept though).

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-02-03   15:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TooConservative, redleghunter, All (#23)

Even Bill Xlinton couldn't win without a shill dividing the GOP vote. Hitlery is even worse

I remind all that the Slickster never received a majority of the popular vote.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-02-03   15:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SOSO (#24)

Not a chance. He is more likely to go for Carson than either of those (don't know if Carson would accept though).

I think that the Not-A-Witch is available...     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-03   15:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: TooConservative (#26)

I think that the Not-A-Witch is available... : )

I don't think he links bush.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2016-02-03   16:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: tomder55 (#13)

Wondering where Palin was when Trump was mercilessly mocking Carson's bio and questioning his character ?

Waiting for the check to clear.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-04   7:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: TooConservative (#20)

The Trumpkins essentially demand we hand the nomination to Trump, no questions asked, no pesky primaries or campaigning either.

That's the way groupies always act.

I wonder which one will be the first to post "A Day in the Life of The Donald" thread,and talk about how sexy he is in a baseball cap?

Maybe another one remarking on how macho he looks while watching a minion clear brush or cut firewood?

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-04   8:02:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SOSO (#22)

OTOH Evita and thugs fear a Rubio-Fiorina ticket.

The only people that fear a Rubio ticket are conservatives that don't want to see a Bush Presidency,Part 3. If we did,we'd just vote for JEB.

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-02-04   8:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: TooConservative (#20)

The Trumpkins essentially demand we hand the nomination to Trump, no questions asked, no pesky primaries or campaigning either.

Lying is not an honorable trait.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-04   8:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#31)

Lying is not an honorable trait.

Considering what a disgrace Trump's "campaign" is, I understand why you want to change the subject.

Tooconservative  posted on  2016-02-04   8:37:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TooConservative (#32)

I'm not changing any subject. I'm just reacting to your made up falbes Pro establishment bullshit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-02-04   9:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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