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Title: Colorado Springs: a playground for pro-life, pro-gun Evangelical Christians
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ ... pro-gun-evangelical-christians
Published: Nov 28, 2015
Author: Josiah Hesse in Colorado Springs
Post Date: 2015-11-28 09:06:58 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 2899
Comments: 32

Colorado Springs, the location of an attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic that left three people dead, is a centre of rightwing Christian culture with a “wild west mentality” when it comes to guns.

The attack, by a lone gunman carrying a rifle or shotgun, took place at a clinic that is the site of regular anti-abortion protests by the city’s pro-life Christian groups.

Planned Parenthood, aware of hostility about their work, recently moved to the new facility, hoping it would provide more security for staff.

The building has been likened to a fortress by anti-abortion campaigners and Friday’s attacks revealed that it is equipped with “safe rooms” for staff to shelter in the event of such an event. It also has an extensive security camera system.

With anti-abortion policies supported by many Republican presidential candidates such as Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Jeb Bush, rhetoric attacking Planned Parenthood and other such organisations is not hard to find in the city.

Last spring, following the gruesome attack on a Colorado woman who had her unborn-baby ripped from her womb with a knife, state representative and Springs resident Gordon Klingenschmitt said the attack was “the curse of God upon America for our sin of not protecting innocent children in the womb”.

Colorado’s second largest city, with a population of 445,800, has built itself a reputation as a playground for white, pro-gun, pro-life Evangelical Christians. It is also home to one army base, two air force bases, and an air force.

Colorado Springs featured in the documentary film Jesus Camp, where evangelical Christian children were taught to engage in anti-abortion protests. Two of the film’s lead characters travelled to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, where they met church pastor Ted Haggard, a one-time leader of the National Association of Evangelicals who had weekly communications with president George W Bush. Haggard resigned from his position later that same year following revelations that he purchased methamphetamine and the services of a male prostitute.

The city’s pro-gun contingent flexed its muscles in 2014 with an unprecedented recall election, ousting state senator John Morse. The recall was primarily motivated by new gun control laws in Colorado – following the Aurora cinema shootings in Denver – which banned magazines holding more than 15 rounds, and demanded a universal background check for all gun purchases.

As the first state to legalise abortion and the first to implement a regulated marijuana market, Colorado is a state that doesn’t take kindly to government infringements on personal rights.

Three weeks before Friday’s Planned Parenthood shooting, a man was seen brandishing a rifle while walking down the streets of Colorado Springs on Halloween morning. A concerned citizen called the 911 Emergency Line to notify the police, but was told by the operator: “Well, it is an open carry state, so he can have a weapon with him or walking around with it,” referencing state laws that allow the brandishing of a firearm in public.

Shortly after the call the man shot and killed three people before being shot dead by police.

Following the Halloween shooting, Colorado Springs resident Jessie Pocock organised a vigil with her fellow citizens, who expressed a mix of grief and outrage at the deaths. She feels that there is a “wild west mentality” when it comes to guns in Colorado Springs.

“It’s important that we can go to the grocery store and not be worried about someone randomly shooting us down on the streets, and right now that is not the case in Colorado Springs, said Pocock, who lives close to the abortion clinic. “You’re not safe on the streets here, and that is a problem.”

Colorado Springs’ year of violence began last January when a bomb detonated outside the local chapter of the NAACP. No one was harmed in the attack, but the incident put many in Colorado Springs on edge.

“I’m a little overwhelmed with the war zone that is my home,” says Pocock.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

Planned Parenthood, aware of hostility about their work, recently moved to the new facility, hoping it would provide more security for staff.

Talk about the matrix ... working conditions in the gas chambers --- I've often thought hunting would be fair if the animals could shoot back !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2015-11-28   9:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

Colorado Springs with it's open carry law had 23 murders in 2014 . Baltimore with it's gun control has had 28 murders in the last month .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-11-28   9:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#0)

Colorado Springs Chicago, the location of an attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic the most violent September since 2002 that left three sixty people dead, is a centre of rightwing Christian culture leftwing secular culture with a “wild west mentality” "police state mentality" when it comes to guns.

So what exactly is your point, Willie?

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD . . . "

~Psalm 33:12a

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-11-28   9:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

Three weeks before Friday’s Planned Parenthood shooting, a man was seen brandishing a rifle while walking down the streets of Colorado Springs on Halloween morning. A concerned citizen called the 911 Emergency Line to notify the police, but was told by the operator: “Well, it is an open carry state, so he can have a weapon with him or walking around with it,” referencing state laws that allow the brandishing of a firearm in public.

As the writer, a Brit, should know, "brandishing" is defined by the Oxford dictionary as: "wave or flourish (something, especially a weapon) as a threat or in anger or excitement."

This is inflammatory language and we see "brandish" used this way repeatedly, accompanying almost any display of a firearm by a person, whether holstered or handheld or in a rifle strap across the back.

A lot of loaded language in this little hit piece. The Guardian remains reliably left-wing for well over a century now.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-28   10:09:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tomder55 (#2)

Colorado Springs with it's open carry law had 23 murders in 2014 . Baltimore with it's gun control has had 28 murders in the last month .

/RIMSHOT

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-28   10:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rufus T Firefly, tomder55, BorisY (#3)

Looks to me like Colorado Springs is importing Chicago & Baltimore's ghetto culture....
Maybe Trump should build a fence between all the different state borders, too.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-11-28   10:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Willie Green (#0)

Smells of anti-white, anti-Christian and anti-legal-gun-ownership[let the criminals have guns only idiocy] article.

Abortion is murder and I don't hear people calling it murder but a "right".

Justified  posted on  2015-11-28   10:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Willie Green (#0)

Colorado Springs, the location of an attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic that left three people dead, is a centre of rightwing Christian culture with a “wild west mentality” when it comes to guns.

Green Willie. There are murders there every day. I heard about this but haven't seen who was killed yet. I hope he killed the ones who butcher the babies and help them. That would be just. The secretary or Janitor would also be just. If they traffic in dead kids.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-28   10:26:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Willie Green, Rufus T Firefly, tomder55, BorisY (#6)

Looks to me like Colorado Springs is importing Chicago & Baltimore's ghetto culture....

Only if they did this everyday for half a century.

Fact is there are more "murders" in Chicago or Baltimore on a Saturday night then Colorado Springs has in a whole year. Thats even with all those crazy white Murdering Christians running around "brandishing" guns.

Maybe thats the problem with Chicago and Baltimore you don't have any those crazy white Murdering Christians running around "brandishing" guns?

Justified  posted on  2015-11-28   10:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#8)

That would be just.

How is murder considered a "just act" when there was no supporting information that the murderer knew anything about his victims? Even then, why are you setting a an obvious murderer up on a pedestal as though he is a god?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-28   10:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#10)

I don't know the details of the story. It is just to kill people who murder babies.

People who kill murderres who kill babies should have statues made to honor them and all the lives they saved.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-28   10:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

People who kill murderres who kill babies should have statues made to honor them and all the lives they saved.

What if a woman's life was in jeopardy with pregnancy, or raped and was with pregancy? In your world thee are no exclusions even if you are wrong to murder in any case?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-28   10:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo (#12)

What if a woman's life was in jeopardy with pregnancy, or raped and was with pregancy?

What if it wasn't like 99 percent of the time?

You're weak on murder.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-28   10:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

You're weak on murder.

But you are OK with murder, how is that? When the means justifies your ends?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-28   10:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Willie Green (#0)

three dead one a cop the other two are what?

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-11-28   11:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tomder55 (#2)

Colorado Springs with it's open carry law had 23 murders in 2014 . Baltimore with it's gun control has had 28 murders in the last month .

And Chicago with it's severe gun control loaws? What 450 or so black on black murders this year.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-11-28   11:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green (#6)

Do you ever think before you write? Do you ever read before you hit publish? Yu go further and further to the left with each posting.

Eli, Eli, nai erchomai Kurios Iesous.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-11-28   11:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#14)

Self defense isn't murder. Helping someone about to be murdered by killing the would be murderer is not murder.

You're fucked in the head. But you live in Kook land so it is to be expected.

You're basically a democrat. Go vote for Hillary.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-28   11:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: BobCeleste (#17)

You're right, Bob... I shouldn't have besmirched Baltimore & Chicago that way...
It looks like Colorado Springs actually imported their crime wave from the Carolinas...
probably some disgruntled, anti-government neo-confederate redneck...

Willie Green  posted on  2015-11-28   11:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

Self defense isn't murder. Helping someone about to be murdered by killing the would be murderer is not murder.

How is it, that a sick, crazed maniac can go into a publick place murdering anyone he chooses and you call that action (or series of actions) self defense?

And you call outright intent to murder, "helping someone?"

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-28   11:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: buckeroo (#20)

I know nothing of the story or the mans motives.

I'm just saying stopping a butcher from murdering a child by any means necessary is just and good.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-28   13:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)

I know nothing of the story or the mans motives.

Are you saying that you can't read the article? Are you saying you are ignorant? Yet, you condone the insanity of this criminal and insidious act of murder?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-28   13:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#22)

Are you saying that you can't read the article?

I read the first sentence.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-28   13:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#23)

Are you aware of the insane crimes he committed beyond the first sentence?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-11-28   13:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#24)

I'll read about it later. Been a busy week.

Have a good day Buck.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-11-28   13:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Willie Green (#19)

actually imported their crime wave from the Carolinas...

Lots of Leftards live in the Carolina's...

In fact Leftards live everywhere and that's the major problem with the world nowadays...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-11-28   13:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All (#0)

People have a hard time convincing people not to murder when they themselves murder.

Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS

Don  posted on  2015-11-28   15:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: BobCeleste (#16)

And Chicago with it's severe gun control loaws? What 450 or so black on black murders this year.

According to the Tribune, there have been 433 homicides in 2015 year-to-date. In 2014, they had 435 for the full year. I notice they are one too low in their list because Laquan is not listed in the full list of victims by month.

So with a little hard work, Chitown could hit 500 murders this year, a modern record.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-28   15:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#21)

This shooter is listed in his voter registration file as an Unaffiliated Female.

Psalm 37 PRAY FOR PARIS

Don  posted on  2015-11-28   17:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: TooConservative (#28)

So with a little hard work, Chitown could hit 500 murders this year, a modern record.

Just keep the illegal drugs and Welfare coming and it will happen...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-11-28   19:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Don (#29)

Unaffiliated Female

Isn't that what Caitlyn is???

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-11-28   19:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: CZ82, sneakypete (#30)

So with a little hard work, Chitown could hit 500 murders this year, a modern record.

Just keep the illegal drugs and Welfare coming and it will happen...

Hey, it's Chi. Anything can happen...

Perfect music vid for a Chicago thread on a Saturday night.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-28   21:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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