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Title: Putin: Russia will not tolerate such crimes as attack against its Sukhoi-24 plane
Source: Tass
URL Source: http://tass.ru/en/politics/838825un
Published: Nov 24, 2015
Author: Uncredited
Post Date: 2015-11-24 08:28:10 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 10665
Comments: 72

According to the president, the attack against Su-24 plane in Syria goes beyond normal struggle against terrorism, and it is "a stab in Russia’s back" delivered by "terrorism accomplices"

SOCHI, November 24. /TASS/. Russia's Sukhoi Su-24 attack aircraft was downed with an air-to-air missile launched from a Turkish F-16 fighter, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Monday.

The Russian leader stressed that the Russian Su-24 fighter-bomber was posing no threat to Turkey.

"Anyway, our pilots and jet posed no threat to the Turkish Republic. This is obvious. They were conducting an operation against ISIL," Putin said at the meeting with King Abdallah II of Jordan.

Putin called the attack a crime and stressed that Russia would not tolerate it. According to the president, the Su-24 plane crash in Syria goes beyond normal struggle against terrorism, and it is "a stab in Russia’s back delivered by terrorist accomplices."

"Today’s loss is linked with a stab in our back delivered by terrorism accomplices. I can’t characterize otherwise what has happened today," the Russian leader said.

The Russian bomber was shot down over Syria by an air-to-air surface fired from a Turkish F-16 plane when the bomber was at an altitude of 6,000 meters at a distance of 1 km from the Turkish bomber." Putin said.

The president said the attack on the Russian jet will have tragic consequences to Russia-Turkey ties.

Turkey's military attache in Russia has been summoned to the Russian Defense Ministry. (1 image)

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#1. To: cranky, redleghunter, tomder55, sneakypete, Pericles (#0)

The president said the attack on the Russian jet will have tragic consequences to Russia-Turkey ties.

Turkey's military attache in Russia has been summoned to the Russian Defense Ministry.

NATO's members have also summoned the Turks. I would guess they have some very pointed questions and will demand more evidence than just allegations by Turkey.

It was unwise to extend NATO membership to Turkey to begin with. As members, if they start a war with Russia by shooting down their warplanes who did not attack anything or anyone in Turkey, NATO will still be obligated by Article Five to follow Turkey into warfare with Russia.

I'm thinking NATO will make it clear they are not starting WW III with Russia even if a Russian plane strayed over the Turkish border, considering that no Turks or Turkish territory was attacked. There is a proportionality to any response.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-24   8:41:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: TooConservative, cranky, redleghunter, tomder55, sneakypete, Pericles (#1)

It was unwise to extend NATO membership to Turkey to begin with. As members, if they start a war with Russia by shooting down their warplanes who did not attack anything or anyone in Turkey, NATO will still be obligated by Article Five to follow Turkey into warfare with Russia.

No. The agreement only requires a member to provide such assistance as it sees fit, when a member is the victim of an armed attack.

Article 5

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-24   14:28:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nolu chan (#27)

The agreement only requires a member to provide such assistance as it sees fit, when a member is the victim of an armed attack.

But Turkey was not attacked. I know, I'm stating the obvious.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-11-24   17:00:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TooConservative (#32)

But Turkey was not attacked. I know, I'm stating the obvious.

And if it were attacked, a member of NATO only need provide such assistance as said member sees fit. And that, only after an Article 4 call to fine dining, wine tasting, and discussion.

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