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Title: LEAKED!!! Jeb Bush :“2- Race will remain fluid for some time because... voters have A.D.D.” (Jeb Bush Campaign Blueprint)
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Published: Oct 30, 2015
Author: Jeb Bush and his campaign
Post Date: 2015-10-30 00:50:12 by A K A Stone
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Comments: 33

www.documentcloud.org/doc...0797-jeb.html#document/p1

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#1. To: nolu chan, cz82, redleghunter, tooconservative, gatlin (#0)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-30   0:51:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-30   0:53:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Document Cloud's source for the PowerPoint slide?

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-30   0:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#3)

This is Jeb Bush's campaign blueprint

.www.usnews.com/news/blogs...-bushs-campaign-blueprint

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-10-30   1:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#2)

That's a nice photo of Jeb!.

Some Bushie on the inside is leaking insider documents. Some of that gives key insights into the campaign, helpful to Bush's opponents. And they might make some campaign ads out of this stuff too. Any publishing of the campaign's internal polling is a PR disaster for Bush. His donors spent a lot of money for Bush to have those polls but part of their value is that they're supposed to be private, not shared with everyone.

I read the article as well and noticed Jeb! has identified only 1200 Iowa voters. And he needs over 20K to make a target of only 18%. That doesn't sound good, no matter how you spin it. No one ever expected Jeb to be very strong in Iowa in this field but that sounds delusional.

Now that Jeb! is calling the voters some variety of special-ed students, I think the end is in sight.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-30   1:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone, tomder55, CZ82, liberator, TooConservative (#4)

Talk about flushing millions of dollars down the toilet.

What a waste of money that could have gone to climate change research or lesbian obesity studies!/s

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-30   1:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone, cz82, redleghunter, tooconservative (#1)

LEAKED!!! Jeb Bush :“2- Race will remain fluid for some time because... voters have A.D.D.” (Jeb Bush Campaign Blueprint)

I thought the headline might be a mischaracterization but...

At page 3: "2- Race will remain fluid for some time because... voters have A.D.D."

And the following showing the credit card hit on Rubio may have caused the response leak of the Bush talking points.

At page 19: "Misuse of state party credit cards, taxpayer funds and ties to scandal-tarred former Congressman David Rivera takes away line of attack on Hillary Clinton."

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-30   2:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu chan (#7)

And the following showing the credit card hit on Rubio may have caused the response leak of the Bush talking points.

At page 19: "Misuse of state party credit cards, taxpayer funds and ties to scandal-tarred former Congressman David Rivera takes away line of attack on Hillary Clinton."

And what makes this sad is both Jeb and Rubio are in single digits in the early primary/caucus states. So is JEB! trying to get a few more single digits to break to double digits?:)

Bizarre really.

So basically Jeb can't pick on Carson because he is black (in his thinking) or Trump (because that always backfires) so he picks on the nerdy kid because he can.

How pathetic.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-30   2:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#5)

I knew Bush was going negative but frankly did not see Rubio as the target. I guess Jeb needs FL real bad. He won't win any states before that.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-30   2:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#9)

I knew Bush was going negative but frankly did not see Rubio as the target.

They've competed for the same donors and party honcho support all along. And many of the same voters. For either one, the other is the rival they want to take out the most so they can grab the other guy's voters/donors/endorsements/cronies.

It's like how Cruz was positioning himself to grab up Trump's voters. Since that hasn't happened yet, Cruz is concentrating on grabbing some Carson and Paul voters.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-10-30   6:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#9)

:“2- Race will remain fluid for some time because... voters have A.D.D.”

I knew Bush was going negative but frankly did not see Rubio as the target. I guess Jeb needs FL real bad. He won't win any states before that.

Jeb is trying to place himself as "the last man standing" so to speak of the GOPe candidates. He figures once the voters get over their fascination with Trump/Carson they will come "running home to Mama" and he will be there waiting with open arms for their adulation, money and votes...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-30   7:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#11)

" He figures once the voters get over their fascination with Trump/Carson they will come "running home to Mama" and he will be there waiting with open arms for their adulation, money and votes..."

He is delusional,and probably on drugs. Oh, and on top of that, he is a bush.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-30   10:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#9)

I knew Bush was going negative but frankly did not see Rubio as the target.

it's sad when you think about it that Jeb is so desperate that he is attacking his padawan . Rubio called him out on his motives during the debate and Jeb had no response.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-30   12:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#8)

So basically Jeb can't pick on Carson because he is black (in his thinking) or Trump (because that always backfires) so he picks on the nerdy kid because he can.

How pathetic.

The nerdy kid is threatening to separate his mentor from major donors, dooming Jeb! to an ignominious political end. It's beginning to look like a mud fight to the death. The Mitt Romney crew may have unearthed some dirt on Rubio when vetting him for the VP slot. Remember the mudslinging W did (technically Karl Rove) in South Carolina about McCain's supposed illigimate black child? The Bushes talk about compassion and love, but they fight dirty.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-30   12:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#1)

VxH  posted on  2015-10-30   12:59:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tomder55 (#13)

The leaked briefing convinced me there is no way Bush would have a chance facing Hitlery.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-30   13:11:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: VxH (#15)

:)

"I'm not quite dead..."

"You'll be stone cold in a moment."

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-30   13:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter (#17)

If they hadn't nailed him to the perch..

Oh wait. Wrong sketch.

VxH  posted on  2015-10-30   13:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#14)

They already shot their wad about Rubio. Essentially it comes down to 1. he got into some financial problems that he evidently solved . 2. He is campaigning so he misses some insignificant roll call votes. 3.(here's the biggies) he tried to be part of a compromise on so called comprehensive immigration policy. When that failed he decided that the path to immigration reform had to start with border control. But his big sin was trying .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-30   15:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: nolu chan (#14)

The nerdy kid is threatening to separate his mentor from major donors, dooming Jeb!

I think Jeb just did that for him the other night with that little display of incompetence...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-30   18:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#19)

3.(here's the biggies) he tried to be part of a compromise on so called comprehensive immigration policy. When that failed he decided that the path to immigration reform had to start with border control. But his big sin was trying .

Correct. Neither he nor Bush would be likely to attract the anti-establishment support. A lot of conservatives would be likely to stay home or vote third party. I guess the hope is that would be offset by those who go to the polls to vote against Hillary. The PTB would be happy with Hillary, Bush or Rubio.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-30   23:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: CZ82 (#20)

I think Jeb just did that for him the other night with that little display of incompetence...

Rubio just landed a whale today.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/latestnews/2015/10/30/Billionaire-donor-backs-Rubio-US-president-NY-Times

Billionaire donor backs Rubio for U.S. president: N.Y. Times

By Reuters
October 30, 2015

Billionaire New York investor Paul Singer sent a letter to dozens of other donors on Friday declaring his support for Rubio in a major blow to the struggling campaign of former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, the newspaper said. They are among the candidates seeking the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

[snip]

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-30   23:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#21)

I guess the hope is that would be offset by those who go to the polls to vote against Hillary.

The anti-establishment has a tough choice. If you believe they were pivotal in giving us the emperor's reign ,then what will the country look like after 8 years of Evita ? Have we been better off than we would've been with a McCain or Romney presidency ? Anyone who answers something other than 'hell no!!!' should put on their Bernie Sanders campaign button.

IMO Rubio's attempt to do his job should not be a disqualifier . The most relevent question is 'which Repubican candidate is electable' ? That will be decided in the coming months .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-31   6:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: nolu chan, Jameson, Willie Green (#22)

I suspected this would happen and it did, looks like the end of Jeb unless he can find some money elsewhere...

Maybe when Hitlery gets kicked to the curb she'll offer him some of her money since they are such good friends and all...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-31   8:04:40 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tomder55, redleghunter (#23)

Have we been better off than we would've been with a McCain or Romney presidency ? Anyone who answers something other than 'hell no!!!' should put on their Bernie Sanders campaign button.

I question whether we would have been better off had we had eight years of GOPe presidency, effectively another two terms of W.

In many measurable way, the answer is yes. But if this is what it took to wake the people up and kick the establishment candidates to the curb, we are better off. Continuing with Dems and indistinguishable GOPe Pubbies will lead to bankruptcy and a world financial meltdown. We have multiplied the debt by 18 since Carter left office. It will be over 20 before Obama leaves office.

IMO Rubio's attempt to do his job should not be a disqualifier . The most relevent question is 'which Repubican candidate is electable' ? That will be decided in the coming months .

In my opinion, nominating an electable candidate who will not effect change, is not the best answer. The controversial decisions of the Supreme Court that everyone has come to know and love have been handed down by a Court with a majority nominated by Republican presidents. I am all for getting some more real conservatives of the bench, and finding them somehwere other than NY/CA and Harvard/Yale. I would like a president who will stand up for fiscal responsibility and conservative values. I think Rubio may be electable, but he would not be my among my preferred choices.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-01   1:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#25)

In my opinion, nominating an electable candidate who will not effect change, is not the best answer. The controversial decisions of the Supreme Court that everyone has come to know and love have been handed down by a Court with a majority nominated by Republican presidents. I am all for getting some more real conservatives of the bench, and finding them somehwere other than NY/CA and Harvard/Yale. I would like a president who will stand up for fiscal responsibility and conservative values. I think Rubio may be electable, but he would not be my among my preferred choices.

He's not my 1st choice either . I would suggest however that Mr Trump's 'Art of the Deal ' and Rubio's trying to work with the other side is pretty much the same thing. Reagan said "Die-hard conservatives thought that if I couldn't get everything I asked for, I should jump off the cliff with the flag flying - go down in flames. No, if I can get 70 or 80 percent of what it is I'm trying to get I'll take that and then continue to try to get the rest in the future."

Now as for the conservatives on the SC ;by any measure 3 of them are solid picks ;Scalia (Reagan appointee) ,Thomas (GHW Bush appointee) ,Alito (GW Bush appointee) .Two of the 3 are appointees by the Bush Presidencies. The other 2 'conservatives ' are the so called swing vote Anthony Kennedy ,who was Reagan's 3rd choice after the failure of the Bork and Ginsberg nominations . He has sided with the conservatives on a number of decisions ,but he also takes a very libertarian view on social issues. Chief Justice Roberts (GWBush appointee} has been a major failure . That's because he lied through his teeth during his nomination ,and has made decisions that go counter to his judicial history before his appointment . The answer to the court I believe is term limits ,and Congress reigning in some of the power that the court seized in 'Marbury v Madison'.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-11-01   3:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: redleghunter, A K A Stone, tomder55, CZ82, sneakypete, TooConservative, rlk, Stoner (#6)

www.realclearpolitics.com...go_to_prison_for_him.html

JEB! Bush: "I Love My Dad, I'd Kill For Him, I'd Go To Prison For Him"

I heard this on TV this morning and am surprised this red meat quote isn't getting more traction.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-11-01   17:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Well,it worked for his asshole father and well-meaning but idiotic brother.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-01   18:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: redleghunter (#8)

And what makes this sad is both Jeb and Rubio are in single digits in the early primary/caucus states. So is JEB! trying to get a few more single digits to break to double digits?:)

Don't forget,he even stands up on his tippy toes to look more manly,too.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-01   18:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: redleghunter (#16)

The leaked briefing convinced me there is no way Bush would have a chance facing Hitlery.

Wouldn't it be funny if we had a presidential election,and nobody voted?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-01   18:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: tomder55 (#19)

But his big sin was trying .

His big sin is proving he is willing to allow the invasion to continue.

Bleep him and the inner tube he rode in on.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-01   18:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: nolu chan (#21)

The PTB would be happy with Hillary, Bush or Rubio.

Why wouldn't they be,when from their POV it would be business as usual regardless of which one was sitting in the Off-White House.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-11-01   18:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: tomder55 (#26)

He's not my 1st choice either . I would suggest however that Mr Trump's 'Art of the Deal ' and Rubio's trying to work with the other side is pretty much the same thing.

On this criteria, Ted Cruz sort of stands out, but his electability is a question. I would like to see what a few debates with Hillary could do. I few debates with a thinned out GOP primary field may also highlight his debating skills.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-11-02   19:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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