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Title: Unbeknownst to Clinton, IT firm had emails stored on cloud; now in FBI’s hands Read more here:
Source: McClatchy Washington Bureau
URL Source: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nat ... /national/article37968711.html
Published: Oct 8, 2015
Author: By Greg Gordon and Anita Kumar
Post Date: 2015-10-08 08:32:43 by Justified
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Views: 3116
Comments: 32

WASHINGTON

A Connecticut company, which backed up Hillary Clinton‘s emails at the request of a Colorado firm, apparently surprised her aides by storing the emails on a “cloud” storage system designed to optimize data recovery.

The firm, Datto Inc., said Wednesday that it turned over the contents of its storage to the FBI on Tuesday.

A Republican Senate committee chairman, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, also has asked the firm to provide the committee copies of any data from Clinton’s account still in its possession.

There were conflicting accounts as to whether the developments could lead to retrieval of any of Clinton’s more than 31,000 personal emails, which she said she deleted from her private server upon turning over her work-related emails to the State Department, at its request, in December 2014.

Congressional Republicans have voiced skepticism as to whether the 30,940 business emails that the Democratic presidential candidate handed over represented all of those related to her position as secretary of state. Clinton has said her lawyers carefully pruned them.

The FBI is separately investigating whether Clinton’s arrangement put classified information at risk but has yet to characterize it as a criminal inquiry.

Datto, based in Norwalk, Conn., became the second data storage firm to become entangled in the inquiry into Clinton’s unusual email arrangement, which has sparked a furor that has dogged her campaign. In August, Clinton and Colorado-based Platte River Networks, which had managed her primary server since June 2013, agreed to surrender it for examination by the FBI.

Datto and Platte River seemed at odds, however, over how Clinton’s emails wound up on Datto’s cloud storage, which may have resulted from a misunderstanding.

Platte River spokesman Andy Boian said the firm bought a device from Datto that constantly snaps images of a server’s contents and connected it to the Clinton server at a New Jersey data storage facility. Platte River never asked Datto to beam the images to an off-site cloud storage node and never was billed for that service, he said. Company officials were bewildered when they learned of the cloud storage, he said.

“We said, ‘You have a cloud? You were told not to have a cloud.’ We never received an invoice for any cloud for the Clintons.’”

The source familiar with Datto’s account, however, said Platte River was billed for “private cloud” storage, which requires a cloud storage node. Because Platte River lacks one, the source said, the data bounced to Datto’s off-site cloud storage. The source said that senior Platte River officials may not have realized it, but company technicians “were managing the off-site storage throughout.”

Datto did not know it was backing up Clintons’ email server until mid August, the source said.

As to whether the FBI might recover Clinton’s personal emails from Datto’s storage, the source said: “People don’t Datto’s service for getting rid of data.”

The FBI requested the contents of Datto’s storage on Sept. 10, a person familiar with the situation said. On Friday, Clinton’s attorney, David Kendall, and Platte River agreed to allow Datto to turn over the data from the backup server to the FBI, said this person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

Boian said Platte River also would give the FBI the backup device it purchased from Datto.

Michael Fass, Datto’s general counsel, said in a statement that “with the consent of our client and their end user, and consistent with our policies regarding data privacy, Datto is working with the FBI to provide data in conjunction with its investigation.”

He said Datto had “no role in monitoring the content or source of data stored” by Platte River.

Boian said the firm had set up a 30-day retention policy for the backup server in 2013, at the request of Clinton’s representatives, meaning that any emails deleted would disappear within 30 days. Boian said Platte River did not “wipe” the server clean, such as by overwriting deleted material several times with encrypted data.

Clinton’s decision to have her lawyers prune and delete all of her personal emails when she turned the others over to the State Department could complicate FBI attempts to resurrect emails from the backup. But if the personal emails were stored on a part of the server’s disk or the cloud backup that has not been overwritten, the task still might be easy. Bloomberg News reported recently that the FBI has recovered some of Clinton’s emails, apparently from the server they seized from Platte River.

In laying out facts gathered by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, which he chairs, Wisconsin Sen. Johnson offered the first public confirmation that Clinton or her representatives had arranged for a backup of her email server after she left office in early 2013.

His letter also cited internal emails recounting requests in late 2014 and early 2015 from Clinton representatives for Platte River Networks to direct Datto to reduce the amount of her emails it was backing up. These communications led a Platte River employee to air suspicions that “this whole thing really is covering up some shaddy (sic) shit,” according to an excerpt of an email cited by Johnson.

Boian said, however, that Platte River was asked to limit email retention to 30 days as soon as it was hired -- a directive that never changed.

The controversy seems sure to come up on Oct. 22, when Clinton is scheduled to testify to a House committee investigating the fatal 2012 attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya. It was the panel’s chairman who first declared last March that she had “wiped” her server clean based on a letter from Clinton’s attorney.

Spokesmen for Clinton’s campaign declined to respond to requests for comment about Johnson’s letter Tuesday.

On May 31, 2013, four months after Clinton left office, the Clinton Executive Service Corp., which oversaw her email server contracts, hired Platte River to maintain her account. Its New Jersey-based server replaced the server in her New York home that had handled her emails throughout her tenure as secretary of state.

Several weeks ago, Platte River employees discovered that her private server was syncing with an offsite Datto server, he said.

When Datto acknowledged that was the case, a Platte River employee replied in an email: “This is a problem.”

Clinton will testify on Capitol Hill about her email practices Oct. 22

Despite Boian’s statement that Platte River set up a 30-day revolving retention policy for Clinton’s emails, Johnson’s letter noted that Platte River employees were directed to reduce the amount of email data being stored with each backup. Late this summer, Johnson wrote, a Platte River employee took note of this change and inquired whether the company could search its archives for an email from Clinton Executive Service Corp. directing such a reduction in October or November 2014 and then again around February, advising Platte River to save only emails sent during the most recent 30 days.

Those reductions would have occurred after the State Department requested that Clinton turn over her emails.

It is unclear why Secretary Clinton’s representatives apparently directed (Platte River) to reduce the backup time period of her emails around the same time period or in the months following the State Department’s request.

Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, in letter to Datto

It was here that a Platte River employee voiced suspicions about a cover-up and sought to protect the company. “If we have it in writing that they told us to cut the backups,” the employee wrote, “and that we can go public with our statement saying we have had backups since day one, then we were told to trim to 30 days, it would make us look a WHOLE LOT better,” according to the email cited by Johnson.

In the letter to Austin McChord, Datto’s CEO, Johnson asked the firm to produce copies of all communications it had relating to Clinton’s server, including those with Platte River and the Clinton firm.” He also asked whether Datto and its employees were authorized to store and view classified information and for details of any cyberattacks on the backup server.

In an ongoing review of Clinton’s work emails, the State Department and intelligence agencies have found more than 400 containing classified information, including at least two declared “Top Secret,” the most sensitive national security data. Clinton has said none of the emails were marked classified during her tenure although some communications by their nature are classified at creation.

In other developments, the State Department is asking Clinton to search again for any emails, regardless of format, from the first two months of her tenure, according to a document filed Tuesday by the State Department in response to a lawsuit about her emails.

The request to Clinton attorney David Kendall, dated Oct. 2, comes weeks after the State Department obtained a series of emails that Clinton did not turn over despite her claim that she sent the agency all her work-related correspondence.

To the extent her emails might be found on any internet service and email providers, we encourage you to contact them.

Patrick Kennedy, under secretay of state for management

The chain of emails, dating from Jan. 10, 2009 to Feb. 1, 2009, were exchanged with former Gen. David Petraeus when he headed the military’s U.S. Central Command, responsible for running the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and mostly relate to personnel matters.

“These emails are now in our possession and will be subject to Freedom of Information Act requests,” State Department spokesman John Kirby said last week. “Furthermore, we asked the IG to incorporate this matter into the review Secretary Kerry requested in March. We have also informed Congress of this matter.”

Clinton said she was unable to turn over emails she sent or received from late January to March 18, 2009, because she continued to use the AT&T Blackberry account she had when she was a senator. But after the Petraeus emails surfaced and showed she had not turned over emails sent or received on her new account, aides said said she could not turn over emails because they had not been captured on her private server.

Clinton’s campaign and Kendall did not immediately respond to questions about Johnon’s letter or the State Department’s new request.

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#1. To: All (#0)

In an ongoing review of Clinton’s work emails, the State Department and intelligence agencies have found more than 400 containing classified information, including at least two declared “Top Secret,” the most sensitive national security data. Clinton has said none of the emails were marked classified during her tenure although some communications by their nature are classified at creation.

And why is she still not in prison or out on a billion dollar bond?

She needs to be brought up on Treason charges. I believe the consciences in the intelligence world Benghazi happened because of hacked Email from Hillary's server. Some how this is not talked about in the MSM, as usual.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-08   9:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Justified, Nolu Chan, Vicomte13 (#1)

In an ongoing review of Clinton’s work emails, the State Department and intelligence agencies have found more than 400 containing classified information, including at least two declared “Top Secret,” the most sensitive national security data. Clinton has said none of the emails were marked classified during her tenure although some communications by their nature are classified at creation. And why is she still not in prison or out on a billion dollar bond?

She needs to be brought up on Treason charges. I believe the consciences in the intelligence world Benghazi happened because of hacked Email from Hillary's server. Some how this is not talked about in the MSM, as usual.

She will be free and clear of all potential charges and again the media darling who beat the vast right wing conspiracy on her. She will hail this as a victory against the war on women.

Hillary will go on to campaign and beat Sanders and on to the White House in 2016.

NONE of this is going to stick. None. She will be 'free clear' by Christmas.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-08   9:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Justified (#0)

This is where "The Worlds Smartest Woman" reverts back to "But...,but...,but,I'm just a gurl,and gurls doan no bout all this technical stuff! WAHHHHHHHHH!"

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   10:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Justified (#1)

And why is she still not in prison or out on a billion dollar bond?

One reason why is she STILL has more than 1,000 FBI "raw" files on prominent politicians and their families that she never had the authority to even see,never mind possess while she was in the WH and playing the role of "Assistant President". The Feebs asked for their files back when the Clintons left the WH,and she just said "No",and kept them.

The other prime reason is she has had access to the business doings of both prominent businessmen who are political contributors,as well as the names of current elected and appointed officials who used their offices to further the business agendas of these people with foreign governments.

You don't seriously think people "contributed" hundreds of millions of dollars to the Clinton Trust because they love Mr and Mrs Bubba,do you?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   10:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: redleghunter (#2)

Hillary will go on to campaign and beat Sanders and on to the White House in 2016.

I'm not so sure of that. She may still be wildly popular with the "Why Men?" Dim voters,but the people that control the DNC have good reason to not trust,and to even hate the Bubbas. When they were in office the last time they greased the money skids for themselves and their insider supporters,and pretty much screwed the rest of the Dim Party. ESPECIALLY the leftists that were all orgasmic over finally having communists in the WH. The minute he was sworn in and saw all the money he could skim with no one controlling him,he threw the commies over the side of the ship and sailed off to fame and riches all by himself.

PLUS,I THINK we are still in the "it's OUR turn to sit in the WH" phase,and it's now the alleged Republicans "turn" to "rule".

Which means all the comic drama we see now is nothing but political maneuvering. The DNC haven't knocked Mrs Bubba out of the race yet because they want to hold all her radical left and feminist supporters and their money close. When push gets down to shove,she is going to be forced to step down at the last minute before it is too late for a Dim replacement to take over and get a campaign going,and whatever loser the ruling elites have picked to run the alleged Republican Party will be the next president.

I am sure they would be as giddy as school girls to have the buffoon trust fund boy from NYC and NJ sitting in the WH because the truth is he has no real political support at all,and is not only insane,but is even an incompetent businessman. For the 2nd tier un-elected people that actually run our government,it will be like taking candy from a baby. The ONLY thing Trump is really good at is attracting attention to himself.

I'm still not so sure it is going to be him because I still don't think even his enormous ego screaming in his ear about him being able to brag about being a president is strong enough to ever get him to put all his money into blind trusts to be administered by someone else while he is in the WH. In his mind,nobody is as smart and competent as he is,and doing so would be a double-edged sword. On the one hand he could end up losing his money and end up having to appear as a contestant on his own reality show,and on the other hand whoever was picked to run it could actually earn a far higher percentage of profits during that time frame than Trump himself ever earned,thus exposing him as a pretender. His ego could never survive that because you can bet your ass people would be reminding him of it every day.

Plus,even as dumb as he is,he HAS to realize it would hurt his future business dealings with the international movers and shakers in NYC that are rabid Dims.

I'm still predicting he will step down at the last minute and announce during the press conference that "I COULD have been president if I wanted,but I decided it was beneath me,so I am stepping down."

By then it will be too late for any conservative candidate to mount a campaign (it's already too late,IMHO),so there is a strong possibility that JEB will be left standing as the only alleged Republican candidate with a assembled political machine still in place that can oppose Saunders or (Heaven forbid!) Goober Gore,so JEB slides right in by default.

And the Globalist March continues unabated.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   10:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#5)

If she gets the nomination...and she will...she will already have 47% of the popular vote. Her march to 270 electoral votes is easy. And her campaign strategy becomes easy and focused. All she has to do is run negative ads on the GOP candidate in Ohio, Florida, VA, and maybe NC. All states Obama took and any GOP candidate MUST have.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-08   11:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: redleghunter, Justified, Vicomte13 (#2)

I note that the FBI also entered the State Dept and seized four computers.

Hillary will retain a defense counsel and retire from the race in 2015. Biden will enter the race and make her irrelevant.

Her "deleted" email is very likely to be recovered in very significant part or entirely, and will show that work and Clinton Crime Foundation emails were present and efforts were made to make them disappear.

The information from the cloud backup server should provide information on when data was changed or deleted.

Destruction of so much as one message to avoid it being subpoenaed is a crime, even if a subpoena had not yet been issued.

http://law.justia.com/codes/us/2012/title-18/part-i/chapter-73/section-1519/

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE - 18 U.S.C. § 1519 (2012)

§1519. Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

(Added Pub. L. 107–204, title VIII, §802(a), July 30, 2002, 116 Stat. 800.)

Anticipatory obstruction of justice is a crime. I believe work related email will be revealed. Also, very likely there will be damaging revelations about the Clinton Crime Foundation.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-08   12:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu chan, tomder55, liberator, CZ82, sneakypete, TooConservative, *2016 The Likely Suspects* (#7)

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE - 18 U.S.C. § 1519 (2012) §1519. Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

(Added Pub. L. 107–204, title VIII, §802(a), July 30, 2002, 116 Stat. 800.)

The Clintons' rise to power used obstruction of justice quite often. Why will it stick now?

How many Clinton scandals have their been between Bubba and BubbIT?

This will quietly go away. Biden will not run given he is still in mourning over his son's death. Odinga won't pull the trigger and Hillary goes free, no charges and a big apology from the FBI and fed.gov.

We are both on record on how we think this will unfold.

{Pan the cameras to "Holidays with the Clintons"}

Hitlery and Bubba will 'light' the 'holiday' tree in Rockefeller Center in NYC. Host Matt Lauer will discuss the persecution of Secretary Clinton by the vast right wing media (FNC); she was only doing exactly what every other government official was doing at the time; new standards not applicable to her tenure were applied because she is who she is, a warrior for the poor and 'under-represented' because she is a womyn.

It's all in the cards. Hitlery walks.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-08   13:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: redleghunter (#2)

She will be free and clear of all potential charges and again the media darling who beat the vast right wing conspiracy on her. She will hail this as a victory against the war on women.

Hillary will go on to campaign and beat Sanders and on to the White House in 2016.

NONE of this is going to stick. None. She will be 'free clear' by Christmas.

depends on what kind of deal she cuts with the emperor (or how much dirt she has on him).

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-08   13:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tomder55 (#9)

or how much dirt she has on him

EXactly. She does and that is why he has not destroyed her yet.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-08   13:47:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#10) (Edited)

EXactly. She does and that is why he has not destroyed her yet.

too bad . I really want to see her frog marched in an orange pant suit. They took out General P for a lot less.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-08   13:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tomder55, nolu chan, TooConservative, CZ82, sneakypete, liberator (#11)

They took out General P for a lot less.

Yes but he was a danger to Barry Oh' and Gen P had no dirt on him or had the integrity not to use what he knew. So Gen P goes down in flames.

The Clintoons however know of Barry Oh's exploits with other men and perhaps some farm animals (we don't know for sure).

But if the only 'hand' the Clintoons have is the homosexual, buggery angle, then it may not be enough. For a 'historically' black president to come forward as engaging in buggery is not taboo anymore thanks to Barry Oh and SCOTUS. The 47%ers will love it along with their docile Twitter followers.

So the Clintoons better have more than the gay stuff. If not maybe Nolu Chan is right and I'm wrong.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-08   14:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: redleghunter (#8)

The Clintons' rise to power used obstruction of justice quite often. Why will it stick now?

Because Obama is President and this would not be happening if he was actively opposing it. Hillary and Bill are in deep doo doo if the wrong information comes up about their foundation.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-08   16:03:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan (#13) (Edited)

Hillary and Bill are in deep doo doo if the wrong information comes up about their foundation.

Absolutely . Their criminal behavior makes the Mafia look like pikers. The only organization that is more criminal is the UN

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-10-08   17:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tomder55 (#14)

Their criminal behavior makes the Mafia look like pikers. The only organization that is more criminal is the UN.

FIFA tries hard.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-08   17:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: redleghunter (#6)

If she gets the nomination...and she will...she will already have 47% of the popular vote. Her march to 270 electoral votes is easy.

Easy unless the DNC pulls the plug on her in the background.

I may be wrong,but I honestly think the people that control the DNC hate the Bubba Family more than the alleged Republicans hate them. After all,they did nothing but stab the DNC and their controllers in the back from the instant they walked into the WH.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   18:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: nolu chan, redleghunter, Justified, Vicomte13 (#7)

I note that the FBI also entered the State Dept and seized four computers.

AND....,there is no way in HELL they did that without the backing of the WH and the DNC.

Anticipatory obstruction of justice is a crime. I believe work related email will be revealed. Also, very likely there will be damaging revelations about the Clinton Crime Foundation.

Yup. As a wise man once observed,"Payback is a BITCH!",and the DNC is looking to get even.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   18:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter, tomder55 (#10)

or how much dirt she has on him

EXactly. She does and that is why he has not destroyed her yet.

Given the FACT that there is no way in hell the FBI would go after her emails without WH approval,it doesn't seem to me that Bathhouse Barry is very afraid of her.

Don't forget,HIS "raw FBI file collection" of political figures and their supporters is MUCH more current than hers,which is at least 16 years old and filled with the names of a lot of dead people.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   18:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: tomder55 (#11)

I really want to see her frog marched in an orange pant suit.

That's absolutely not going to happen. EVER.

The "MAD" principle applies to political figures just like it does to nuclear weapons. Her getting a prison sentence would amount to a declaration of Total Political War ,and nobody wants that to happen because nobody will win but us "little people".

They will hold this over her head and use it to kill her political ambition,while offering her and and Bubba presidential pardons and the legal right to keep all the money they collected illegally. She is evil and Bubba is a sociopath,but neither is stupid enough to pass on a deal like that.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   18:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: redleghunter (#12)

But if the only 'hand' the Clintoons have is the homosexual, buggery angle, then it may not be enough.

And Obombers handlers have Bubbette's lesbian angle,as well as a TON of kinky shit done by Bubba.

Does anybody REALLY think the mainstream 'murikan media is going to allow Saint Barry,the First Black Angel to be exposed in public as anything other than the second coming of Jesus,but with the "right" skin color?

Even if there were videos of him in bathouse action released to the public,do you REALLY think his black and leftist supporters will give a damn?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   18:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete, nolu chan, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#17)

I note that the FBI also entered the State Dept and seized four computers.

AND....,there is no way in HELL they did that without the backing of the WH and the DNC.

That was my thought too. Im thinking Biden maybe asking for this or Obummer has a vendetta against the Clintons.

Justified  posted on  2015-10-08   19:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Justified (#21)

Im thinking Biden maybe asking for this or Obummer has a vendetta against the Clintons.

I may be wrong,but I doubt either has the authority to do something like that without getting permission from their handlers.

Which,if I am right,means Mr and Mrs Bubba are in deep doo-doo.

As a former president and a former Sec of State and 1st Bitch,neither is ever going to face any serious prosecution that includes jail time,but their Clinton Foundations hundred + million bucks are at stake,and they both know they will never again be in a position to sell influence and run that kind of scam again if all this goes public,so IMHO Mrs Bubba will step down "for health reasons" when it's too late for any other Dim to get any traction,and put presidential pardons in their pockets as a reward for "listening to reason".

Unless the globalists think their agenda has advanced so far they no longer need to pretend we have public elections,I sincerely think this is the alleged Republicans "turn" to sit in the WH,and that they will be there for another 8 years. After than I honestly don't think there will be any more pretending,and our "presidents" will be elected and appointed by the corporate board that runs the North American Economic Zone. Who better to dissolve elected government and create a corporate board to run the country than the alleged Republicans? Can you see a Dim president encouraging his followers to back him in dissolving the union and creating a corporate government?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-10-08   19:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: redleghunter, tomder55, TooConservative, CZ82, sneakypete, liberator (#12)

So the Clintoons better have more than the gay stuff. If not maybe Nolu Chan is right and I'm wrong. ... The Clintoons however know of Barry Oh's exploits with other men and perhaps some farm animals (we don't know for sure).

I do not think it matters what the Clintons may have on Obama. Assume the Clinton's have 4K video of Obama being romantic with sheep in the oval office.

The Clintons can't go to the Dem machine to destroy a sitting Dem president, no matter what they have.

Releasing it will not get Hillary elected. It would not stop an FBI investigation. The wrath of the whole Dem machine would rain down on the Clintons. It only intimidates if there is a real threat to release it. Obama can continue to destroy her campaign while publicly remaining above it all. He can plan to retire to New York where the UN, money and power exist, and with the Clintons marginalized, he and Michelle can be the new king and queen of the city of socialism.

Meanwhile, the steady drumbeat of information is killing Hillary's presidential campaign. Bill is no longer President, and Hillary is no longer Senator or Secretary. Obama and his administration wield the power and they do not.

If the GOP remains fractured, lots of Pubbies may stay home if the candidate, be it Trump, Bush, or another, does not meet their approval. Hillary as a nominee might unite the GOP in opposition, causing turnout.

Biden might unite the Dems without uniting the GOP.

Gen P had no dirt on him or had the integrity not to use what he knew. So Gen P goes down in flames.

They sure did shut down any revelations about whatever was in the email between General Allen and Jill Kelley. There was some 30,000 pages of stuff that remains unexplained. The whole pile of crap was stirred up by Petraeus' girlfriend, Paula Broadwell. Kelley responded to the anonymous email of Broadwell by getting the FBI involved. Petraeus took the hit. I guess a whole lot of that story of Petraeus-Allen-Kelley will never be told.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-08   19:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: redleghunter (#12)

The Clintoons however know of Barry Oh's exploits with other men and perhaps some farm animals (we don't know for sure).

You mean to tell me Manchelle isn't a Wookie???

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-08   19:39:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#20)

Even if there were videos of him in bathhouse action released to the public,do you REALLY think his black and leftist supporters will give a damn?

No way in hell would they care, assholes of a feather stick together...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2015-10-08   19:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Justified, sneakypete, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#21)

Im thinking Biden maybe asking for this or Obummer has a vendetta against the Clintons.

Way back, Obama said "No!" to bringing Sidney Blumenthal into his administration. Hillary pulled a fast one behind Obama's back. The crap went public. I believe Obama is pissed at being deceived, and at Hillary for visiting Blumenthal and her great big pile of crap on his administration.

I don't think Biden asked for all this, but Obama wants to demolish Hillary's campaign, and the Dem machine needs a replacement to step in seamlessly, unlike the cluster foxtrot being exhibited by Boehner and the GOP machine.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-10-08   19:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: nolu chan, sneakypete, redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#26)

Way back, Obama said "No!" to bringing Sidney Blumenthal into his administration. Hillary pulled a fast one behind Obama's back. The crap went public. I believe Obama is pissed at being deceived, and at Hillary for visiting Blumenthal and her great big pile of crap on his administration.

Now we know a woman scorned has nothing on Obummer!

Justified  posted on  2015-10-08   19:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: redleghunter (#2)

She will be free and clear of all potential charges and again the media darling who beat the vast right wing conspiracy on her. She will hail this as a victory against the war on women.

Hillary will go on to campaign and beat Sanders and on to the White House in 2016.

NONE of this is going to stick. None. She will be 'free clear' by Christmas.

And she will hire Bowe Bergdahl her Head of Security or perhaps Secretary of the Army or Joints Chief of Staff.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-10-08   19:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: CZ82 (#24)

:)

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-08   20:49:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SOSO (#28)

And she will hire Bowe Bergdahl her Head of Security or perhaps Secretary of the Army or Joints Chief of Staff.

She will assign Bergdahl to Bubbas security detail.

"For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."---Romans 5:6

redleghunter  posted on  2015-10-08   20:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: redleghunter (#30)

She will assign Bergdahl to Bubbas security detail.

Or Obama's.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-10-08   21:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tomder55 (#11)

" I really want to see her frog marched in an orange pant suit. "

I think most of here at LF want that as well!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Stoner  posted on  2015-10-09   10:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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