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Title: An Alaskan Reader Says The GOP Leadership (Neocons and Cuckservatives) May Go Third Party THEMSELVES If Trump Is Nominated
Source: VDare
URL Source: http://www.vdare.com/letters/an-ala ... emselves-if-trump-is-nominated
Published: Sep 21, 2015
Author: Ryan Kennedy
Post Date: 2015-09-21 14:30:03 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 2924
Comments: 37

Peter Brimelow has long predicted a breakdown of the American party system over immigration. I’ve been reading news stories speculating that the split may occur in an unusual way.

The leadership of the GOP may split off from the GOP nominee!

That is, they may find the GOP nominee so obnoxious to their values (cheap labor and being tolerated at their liberal friends’s cocktail parties) that they may actually decide to break off and found their own party!

Donald Trump has signed a pledge to support the Republican Party’s presidential nominee — even if it isn’t him. But one of the best-known pundits in conservative media isn’t making the same promise.

Bill Kristol, the editor of the Weekly Standard, said he would likely look beyond both of the major parties if Trump, the clear frontrunner in the GOP’s crowded presidential field, emerged with the party’s nomination.

“I doubt I’d support Donald. I doubt I’d support the Democrat,” Kristol told CNNMoney in an email. “I think I’d support getting someone good on the ballot as a third party candidate.”

Conservative pundit Bill Kristol: If Trump wins, I’d support a third-party choice, By Tom Kludt CNN, September 14, 2015

Who’d athunk?!

I wonder what their animal mascot will be? The weasel? Maybe they could have Pauly Shore address their convention. The cuckoo bird? The lemming?

The possibilities are endless!

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#1. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

The destruction of the Republican Party, at last! Woo hoo!

Couldn't happen to a bunch of nicer assclowns.

Woo hoo!

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-21   14:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

The destruction of the Republican Party, at last!

The coroners report will list suicide as the cause of death.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-09-21   15:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Don't get too excited, ladies. This 3rd party hopeful will cause as much damage to Trump as Ron Paul did to either of the failed two party candidates... none to speak of.

Trump is gonna steamroll them all.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-21   15:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

"Conservative pundit Bill Kristol: If Trump wins, I’d support a third-party choice"

Damn! They got Trump to sign a non-third-party pledge but they forgot to get Kristol to sign one.

We need to get Kristol to say he's going to move to Europe (or Israel) if Trump is elected. Then buy him a one-way ticket.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-21   16:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: GrandIsland, Vicomte13 (#3)

Trump is gonna steamroll them all.

Then he can set up one central detention center for all illegal aliens, somewhere in Alaska. It need not be escape proof.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-09-21   17:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland (#3)

Trump is gonna steamroll them all.

Yes he is. And I love it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-09-21   17:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GrandIsland (#3)

Trump is gonna steamroll them all.

How? More dumbassed voters listening to a snake-oil salesman about how GREAT his majiick elixir is?

PS: the majiick elixir bottle is empty just like the voter's respective heads.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-21   18:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#7)

"... listening to a snake-oil salesman about how GREAT his majiick elixir is?"

Who should we be listening to?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-21   18:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#8)

Who should we be listening to?

Hillary and Jeb! That way you'll be assured of getting more of the same you have been getting.

rlk  posted on  2015-09-21   18:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#8)

Who should we be listening to?

Listen to me very clearly: my dead dawg scruffy doesn't bullshit anyone. All these precocious wanna-be-campaigners are nothing but desparate charlatans trying to s-q-u-e-e-z-e a vote out of dreamer voters such as yourself.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-21   18:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeroo (#7) (Edited)

Vote or don't vote, Buckster... I DGAF. I plan on voting for someone that will shit on illegals, shit on the lazy poor and shit on O'bungholeCare... I especially hope he shits on every able bodied welfare slug in this country. I'm tired of feeding and housing the drug users you like to defend, unless the food and housing is PRISON.

Do as you please...

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-21   18:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#10)

"Listen to me very clearly:"

I did. But all I heard was gobbledygook. I didn't hear an answer to my question: Who should we be listening to?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-21   18:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#11)

I plan on voting for someone that will shit on illegals, shit on the lazy poor and shit on O'bungholeCare... I especially hope he shits on every able bodied welfare slug in this country. I'm tired of feeding and housing the drug users you like to defend, unless the food and housing is PRISON.

And the same guy is going to SHIT all over you, too. I wanna watch your reaction in a couple of years about the headache you carry from the nauseous stench Trump or any of these wanna-be POTUS klowns deliver to you.

Your vapid euphoria over a a man that has manifested bunkruptcies four times is going to haunt you.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-21   19:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#12)

Who should we be listening to?

If there was someone out there that could actually speak for the common man (the tax payer) living in America as opposed to all this fractious horror show, it would be a good sign. But, there is no one to find.

The nation denies and even defies common sense. The place is doomed.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-21   19:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: buckeroo, tryanny you can count on, D 'n R Liquidation Specialties (#10)

dawg scruffy doesn't bullshit anyone

There's a media blackout, and they won't let scruffy in the debates!

The sheeple will keep doing what they know will fail, vote D&R party. They can count on the Republican Democrat party to screw them.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-09-21   19:11:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: hondo68 (#15)

Not many realize that when they vote for POTUS they give away a wee bit of themselves as POTUS has the POWER to fuck things up. Since WW2, that is all each and every POTUS has done: they fucked upped America; to include Truman and Reagan.

Not one POTUS has performed the job for the American People. Instead, all they do is perpetuate the monstrous machine of incredible taxation that funds world enmity and gets us in trouble everywhere.

The place can't be fixed because it is out of control and no one man ... even a POTUS can fix it.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-21   19:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite, Gatlin (#12)

"Listen to me very clearly:"

I did. But all I heard was gobbledygook. I didn't hear an answer to my question: Who should we be listening to?


Yep, and every time I break wind from the
beans the sound it makes is: "Buckeroo."

Willie Green  posted on  2015-09-21   19:35:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Willie Green (#17)

Go fuck with your chooo-chooo, willie.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-21   20:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#11)

"I plan on voting for someone that will shit on illegals, shit on the lazy poor and shit on O'bungholeCare..."

And shit all over the "medical" marijuana states by having the DEA shut down every dispensary and arrest the owners for drug dealing.

Or change our federal drug laws.

One or the other. Can't have both.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-21   21:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#14)

"The nation denies and even defies common sense. The place is doomed."

So. No one for President. 15 Republican candidates remaining and none of them are good enough for you.

Hey, fine by me. I could give a FF. But if none of them are any good there's no reason to single out one for your insults, right?

So knock it off.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-21   21:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#19)

And shit all over the "medical" marijuana states by having the DEA shut down every dispensary and arrest the owners for drug dealing.

Lets not go crazy, Mister White. I have no problem with states rights and states that legalize weed in their states.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-21   21:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: misterwhite (#20)

15 Republican candidates remaining and none of them are good enough for you.

Make that eighteen (you forgot to mention Clinton and Sanders) as Biden may join the singular DO_NOTHING candidate club that lies to the American People.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-09-21   21:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: GrandIsland (#21)

"Lets not go crazy, Mister White. I have no problem with states rights and states that legalize weed in their states."

Governor Wallace felt the same way. His schoolhouse door speech was a treatise on federalism and states rights. A portion:

"I stand here today, as Governor of this sovereign State, and refuse to willingly submit to illegal usurpation of power by the Central Government. I claim today for all the people of the State of Alabama those rights reserved to them under the Constitution of the United States. Among those powers so reserved and claimed is the right of state authority in the operation of the public schools, colleges and Universities."

" My action does not constitute disobedience to legislative and constitutional provisions. It is not defiance – for defiance sake, but for the purpose of raising basic and fundamental constitutional questions. My action is raising a call for strict adherence to the Constitution of the United States as it was written – for a cessation of usurpation and abuses. My action seeks to avoid having state sovereignty sacrificed on the altar of political expediency."

You have a problem with that?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-21   22:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: misterwhite (#23)

I feel state law should over trump any federal law... as long as that state law is constitutional.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-21   22:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: GrandIsland (#24)

"I feel state law should over trump any federal law... as long as that state law is constitutional."

The Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution states that federal law trumps all state laws to the contrary. Marijuana is against federal law, and state marijuana dispensaries are in violation of that federal law.

Now, we either change federal law or a President with balls needs to shut them down. If you believe in the rule of law.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-21   22:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: misterwhite (#25)

I'm not a fan of the federal government enforcing any law unless it's a criminal act from one state to another.

In my 20 years of LE, I never seen a need for fed LE help with drug arrests. I have however seen thousands of victims that had their identities stolen, via the Internet from another state... and them lazy fucking Feds won't take those cases... but they need to make weed arrests in my jurisdiction?

Fuck them.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-21   23:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: GrandIsland (#26)

"I'm not a fan of the federal government enforcing any law unless it's a criminal act from one state to another."

If there are enough people who feel the same way you do, I'm sure the federal law will change. But right now the federal law exists and is not being enforced, and that turns this country into the rule of man, not the rule of law.

This federal law happens to be about an issue you support. What about other issues? Can a state racially discriminate as long as it doesn't discriminate across state lines? Governor Wallace thought so. But the President called the National Guard to Alabama to enforce federal law.

Again, you want all these laws, then YOU want to decide which ones you'll enforce. Doesn't work that way. The people choose the laws and you are expected to enforce all of them.

"In my 20 years of LE, I never seen a need for fed LE help with drug arrests."

I believe you. If you look at drug arrest statistics, 99% are made by state and local law enforcement. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people who are breaking federal law. I want the law enforced or changed. You want the law on the books but not enforced. That's insane.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-22   9:14:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: misterwhite (#27)

I believe you. If you look at drug arrest statistics, 99% are made by state and local law enforcement. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people who are breaking federal law. I want the law enforced or changed. You want the law on the books but not enforced. That's insane.

No, I want the Feds to look at LE like I did, via JURISTICTION... and stop stepping on the toes of other LE agencies.

I'd like them to enforce every law and every criminal act that the state, city and county agencies can't realistically enforce. Like interstate crimes, Internet crimes, illegal alien entry, aircraft crash investigation, actual terrorism and terrorist recruitment from abroad. If we allowed each state to enforce their own drug laws, their own bank robbery laws, their own kidnapping laws... then we could cut all those overpaid federal police agencies.

Look, I understand your point as well, but the government has too much power that's inescapable. You wanna know why I support legal weed in each state that passes it via vote? Because if you don't like legal weed, move the fuck out of that state. You have choices while the state exercises THEIR choices... everyone is happy. That all falls to shit when the state passes legal weed and the Feds say, fuck you, we know what's best.

Now, on that note, if Colorado is sending their legal weed via the mail or UPS to other states (and that's happening A LOT by the way)... then by all means Feds, step in, that's interstate crime. Go arrest the Colorado post master for allowing it and the scumbag pot head mailing it.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-22   10:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

I would prefer to see the GOP turn into a 4th,or even a 5th party.

Preferably on another continent.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-22   10:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#14)

If there was someone out there that could actually speak for the common man (the tax payer) living in America as opposed to all this fractious horror show, it would be a good sign. But, there is no one to find.

I have no doubt there are several out there who could and would be sincere in their effort to restore America and the Constitution.

I also have no doubt none of them could get even a sentence of mention in the national press unless they set themselves on fire in front of the WH.

Even then the press would make sure they had died and left behind no statement before they mentioned it.

The national and international media is controlled by the globalists. Period.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-22   10:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: GrandIsland (#28)

Careful there,Bucko! You are starting to make sense,and may alienate the few here that support you if you do that very often.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-09-22   10:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

Bucko

No reason to insult me with that name. I'd rather you call me shithead.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-22   10:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: GrandIsland (#28)

"If we allowed each state to enforce their own drug laws ..."

... it wouldn't work and you know it. But you don't care because you don't like the law to begin with.

They tried that with Prohibition. Each state had their own alcohol laws. It didn't work. Way too easy to drive a truck full of booze across state lines than crossing an international border with it.

"but the government has too much power that's inescapable."

OK. Let's start with the Civil Rights Act. How about each state decides on that issue?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-22   11:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: GrandIsland (#32)

"I'd rather you call me shithead."

You prefer that to GrandIsland?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-09-22   11:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: misterwhite (#34)

You prefer that to GrandIsland?

No, I preferred that to "Bucko" or and word form of Buckeroo. Try and keep up with the conversation if you're gonna contribute to it

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-09-22   11:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland, misterwhite, Y'ALL (#28)

The Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution states that federal law trumps all state laws to the contrary. Marijuana is against federal law, and state marijuana dispensaries are in violation of that federal law. --- misterwhite

The Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution states that federal law MADE IN PURSUANCE THEREOF trumps all state laws to the contrary. --

Marijuana prohibition is ARGUABLY against federal law, as many States now agree. - - I'd say its flat out unconstitutional...

You have choices while the state exercises THEIR choices... everyone is happy. That all falls to shit when the state passes legal weed and the Feds say, fuck you, we know what's best. --- grandisland.

Congrats. You're finally starting to understand our Constitution, -- maybe.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-22   11:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite, grandisland, y'all (#33)

--- the government has too much power that's inescapable." -- grandisland

OK. Let's start with the Civil Rights Act. How about each state decides on that issue? --- misterwhite

The issue of civil rights is, and has always been, a constitutional issue, as per our Bill of Rights.

Of course, misterwhite won't agree, seeing that he believes all of our rights can be infringed upon if 'society' finds a need.

tpaine  posted on  2015-09-22   11:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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