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Title: Immigration Trump Card
Source: National Review
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corne ... tion-trump-card-mark-krikorian
Published: Aug 17, 2015
Author: Mark Krikorian
Post Date: 2015-08-17 09:23:56 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 2454
Comments: 17

Maybe what is most remarkable about Trump’s immigration paper is that none of the other candidates beat him to it.

I mean no disrespect to his policy people, but anyone could have written it in a few days, a week maybe. The material is easily found online and unlike, say, health care policy, it’s really not that complicated.

Which suggests that the campaigns of most of the other leading candidates hoped they could avoid offering an actual plan, finessing the issue instead by mouthing platitudes for the yahoos without specifics that might upset donors. Trump’s paper takes direct aim at this strategy when it states “Real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first – not wealthy globetrotting donors.”

And that makes me pessimistic about anyone adopting Ian’s sensible suggestion that a “candidate who wants to be formidable, and knock Trump from his perch, would assert The Donald’s principles, then bolster them with solid policies.”

The three principles the paper offers wouldn’t even have to be articulated in a healthier society; of course immigration policy must be based exclusively on the interests of We the People of the United States, not wealthy donors, not corporations, not union bosses, not big-city politicians, and not foreign citizens. Their articulation is nonetheless useful as a way to flush out libertarian and leftist opponents of American sovereignty.

As to the specifics: When the WaPo reported that Trump called Sen. Jeff Sessions to talk immigration, I’d assumed the senator wouldn’t have been able to get a word in edgewise. Well, that does not seem to have been the case, because there’s a lot of specifics in Trump’s paper, and they’re mostly quite good. Among them: Nationwide E-Verify, visa-tracking for foreign visitors, cutting off aid to sanctuary cities, making overstay of a visa a criminal offense, tightening up on H-1B visas to prevent their being used to import cheap labor, ending birthright citizenship, and more. It even addresses the excesses of refugee resettlement.

The final item in the paper is a call for “immigration moderation,” a verbatim echo of Sen. Sessions’ words from earlier this year. But while Rick Santorum has called for a 25 percent cut in the current immigration level of 1 million per year (by eliminating the lottery and certain chain-migration categories), Trump’s paper doesn’t offer specifics here. On the other hand, it’s just a six-page paper, so there’s plenty of opportunity to elaborate.

I’m less enthusiastic about the first section of the paper, on Mexico and the border. Its antagonism toward Mexico is not constructive – Mexico is indeed obstructionist in many areas, but it has been induced to be helpful in others (for instance, by interdicting many of the Central American illegals headed north). Our approach to our neighbor to the south must be firm, but not ham-handed.

On the other hand, the paper makes Trump’s earlier comments about making Mexico pay for the construction of a border wall seem less absurd. It proposes a number of ways to extract funds, including “impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages” and increased visa fees on various Mexican travelers. These may or may not be good ideas, but they’re not preposterous.

So, while I think Ann Coulter exaggerates just a little when she calls Trump’s paper “The greatest political document since the Magna Carta,” it does clearly advance the immigration debate. Some of these specifics will almost certainly come up in the CNN debate next month and Trump’s rivals will have to respond. I sincerely hope one of the other candidates makes these ideas his own in order to “knock Trump from his perch,” but whether or not that happens, the Overton window for discussion of immigration has moved appreciably in the direction most of the public prefers.


Poster Comment:

Amid NRO's constant stream of anti-Trump articles, this new piece by one of NRO's more mainstream GOPe-ish writers is interesting by comparison. So this is quite a change in direction from NRO's typical "witless ape" coverage of Trump.

So, pretty much a policy-based plus for Trump in mainstream Republican ranks, not just in the Angry Wing of the GOP led by Ann Coulter and Mark Levin.

This is the point at which a bold populist actually makes visible inroads into the establishment's unified front to resisting the voters' wishes on immigration enforcement and reform.

It leans on Senator Sessions' work against lawless immigration policy since 2006 and includes his phrase "immigration moderation". This is remarkable as Sessions may be the first Senator willing to endorse Trump or at least make his case in GOPe circles. Securing party insider support is vital to nominees in either party and candidates don't become the nominee unless they have strong elite support.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Another NRO writer yesterday, much more positive than other NRO pieces on Trump.

NRO's Ian Tuttle: Donald Trump’s Immigration Plan — A First Impression

NRO still loathes Trump as a candidate but they are quite willing to discuss his immigration policy as a serious policy proposal. NRO always loves policy discussions.

After 40 or more very anti-Trump articles at NRO, seeing two rather positive Trump articles is remarkable, I think.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-17   9:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TooConservative (#0)

"Amid NRO's constant stream of anti-Trump articles ..."

Mark Krikorian needs to update his resume. This kind of positive Trump talk will not be tolerated at National Review.

He'll probably issue an apology next week, claiming he was on drugs when he wrote it. Drugs which should be legal, dammit!

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-17   10:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2)

I have to admit that I was surprised they didn't use a title like "Blind Hog Finds (Immigration) Acorn". LOL

Of course, this is a serious policy topic that has been hotly debated for years at NRO. So when Trump gets serious, they can't resist yet another round of policy wonkery.

Donald has cunningly found their weakness.     : )

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-17   10:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#3)

"Of course, this is a serious policy topic that has been hotly debated for years at NRO."

And I bet they'd love to continue to debate it for years and years. Fix it? No way!

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-17   10:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4)

And I bet they'd love to continue to debate it for years and years. Fix it? No way!

They're willing to debate it and to fix it.

Don't mistake this niceness from NRO on the immigration white paper as any fondness for Teh Donald. Far from it. I'll post Jonah Goldberg's latest too.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-17   11:28:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#0)

Among them: Nationwide E-Verify, visa-tracking for foreign visitors, cutting off aid to sanctuary cities, making overstay of a visa a criminal offense, tightening up on H-1B visas to prevent their being used to import cheap labor, ending birthright citizenship, and more. It even addresses the excesses of refugee resettlement.

Remarkably but not suprising ; Trump pretty much echos mainstream Republican views as have been articulated by a number of the candidates . Some have spoken at great length on the Senate floor with them. The biggest difference I see is that many of the Chamber of Commerce type Repubs have called for more H1B-s (although they have been pretty silent since the abuses by companies like Disney were exposed ) .

In theory mass deportation is a solution to the illegals already in the country (is that his final solution ? Putting them on box cars leaving the country ?) Is it practical ? Does he really think he can legally kick out anchor children ? I've heard arguments on these pages suggesting the legality is not the issue . Since the emperor uses executive fiat then a Republican POTUS should have the unconstitutional power to make law also . Much of his position paper is conventional Republican positions that I would agree with .

This proposal to gather them up and deport them ,although good red meat for the masses ,sound undoable to me . But hey ,it's as sound as Romney's 'self deportation' idea .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-17   11:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tomder55 (#6) (Edited)

Trump pretty much echos mainstream Republican views as have been articulated by a number of the candidates .

Trump goes much further. This is the full Sessions plan. None of the other GOP hopefuls will touch it with a 10 foot stick.

So credit where credit is due for Teh Donald. (See my above cheap crack about "Blind Hog Finds Acorn").

I see one of HA's writers is making the other case, that over 50% of Republicans in key states like FL want an amnesty and that the smart play for 2016 is an Amnesty-Lite policy to appeal to those Republicans and to indy voters. I don't buy it, neither do a vast majority of HA's readers. I guess it does no harm to debate it.

HA: The movement to surrender on amnesty is well underway

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-17   12:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#7)

Here was Trump last month around the 5 minute mark) . When CNN’s Dana Bash asked Trump last month whether he favored a path to citizenship for illegals he says “Right now, no,” ... “we’ll see, later, down the line, who knows what’s going to happen.”

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/07/29/donald-trump-dana-bash-interview- the-lead.cnn

That's quite a shift in a month to "We're going to keep the families together, but they [those in the country illegally] have to go,"

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-08-17   12:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tomder55 (#8)

That's quite a shift in a month to "We're going to keep the families together, but they [those in the country illegally] have to go,"

Well, this is part of what drives a lot of writers and bloggers so crazy with Trump. It's all the flipflops and constant changes of position.

You may recall that Obama played a strategy like this against McStain in 2008. McStain kept complaining that it wasn't possible to be both to his right and to his left on various policies but that didn't stop Obama from pandering to opposing groups on those issues. Naturally, you have to have libmedia complicity to do this. No Republican would get away with it, certainly not Trump.

We really shouldn't reward a Flipflopper-In-Chief with the WH.

But now that Trump has a written position paper, that does change quite a bit. And it will help him to stay on message, like a disciplined conventional candidate. Contrary to what the Trumpsters believe, flipflopping constantly does not inspire trust with the voters. This is one of the reasons why Hitlery is pretty unpopular even with many Dim voters. She, too, has a record of being on both sides of almost every issue going back to the Nineties. With Trump, he can change positions every couple of days.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-17   13:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#0)

I’m less enthusiastic about the first section of the paper, on Mexico and the border. Its antagonism toward Mexico is not constructive –

Always negotiate from a position of strength. If there is appeasement in the preliminary discussions, that opens the door for more appeasement.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-17   13:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative (#3) (Edited)

Of course, this is a serious policy topic that has been hotly debated for years at NRO. So when Trump gets serious, they can't resist yet another round of policy wonkery.

Donald has cunningly found their weakness. : )

Wonder who Trump has on the payroll now as his campaign advisor. That position was vacant last week.

I found this and don't know if it is up to date. Notice he has Megan Powers (Fox News contributor?) on the payroll too:

Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.

(page updated August 15, 2015)

announced June 16, 2015. Headquarters: New York, NY see also: pre-campaign organization

Campaign Manager Corey R. Lewandowski

(started in Jan. 2015; reported Feb. 25, 2015...senior political advisor until launch) National director of voter registration (from March 2014) and East Coast regional director (March 2013-March 2014) and New Hampshire state director (from 2008) at Americans for Prosperity. Director of public affairs at Schwartz MSL, Sept. 2004-July 2012. Executive director of the New England Seafood Producers Association, May 2003-Aug. 2004. Campaign manager and communications director on Bob Smith for U.S. Senate, Dec. 2001-Jan. 2003. Northeast region legislative political director for the RNC, April-Nov. 2001. Administrative assistant to U.S. Rep. Robert Ney (R-OH), Dec. 1997-Feb. 2001. Development assistant at Citizens for a Sound Economy, May-Nov. 1997. Executive assistant to U.S. Rep. Peter Torkildsen (R-MA), Jan. 1996-Jan. 1997. Masters in political science from American University, 1997; B.A. in political science from University of Massachusetts Lowell, 1995.

Political Director Michael Glassner

(reported by various news outlets on July 30, 2015) President of C&MT Transcontinental from April 2008; clients have included McCain-Palin 2008 and SarahPAC (hired as chief of staff to SarahPAC in Feb. 2011). Southwest regional political director at AIPAC, Jan. 2014-July 2015. Senior vice president for external affairs at IDT Corporation, July 2001-April 2008. Chief of staff to the chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, May 1998-July 2001. Senior advisor to Sen. Bob Dole, Jan. 1986-Jan. 2001. B.A. in political science from University of Kansas, 1985. twitter

Press Secretary Hope Hicks

Started at The Trump Organization in Aug. 2014. Account rep. at Hiltzik Strategies. Bachelor's degree in English from Southern Methodist University, 2010. Native of Greenwich, CT.

Coordinator Megan Powers

Degree in political strategy and psychology, law, marketing and branding from New York University, 2015. twitter

Marketing Amanda Miller

Started working at The Trump Organization in 2001, most recently serving as vice president of marketing. Worked at Piazza Sempione Fashion Company. Degree in fashion merchandising and business from University of Rhode Island. twitter

Treasurer Tim Jost

Vice president at Red Curve Solutions in Beverly, Mass. Deputy CFO and assistant treasurer on Romney for President in 2012. Experience on campaigns in Maryland, Illinois and New York. Deputy finance director on Romney for Governor starting in Jan. 2003. B.A. in political science from Arizona State University.

Legal Counsel Donald F. McGahn

Partner at Jones Day.

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-17   13:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tomder55 (#6) (Edited)

"Does he really think he can legally kick out anchor children ?"

All Trump said about anchor children was that HE was not going to break up families. If illegal parents wish to return to their home country without their American citizen children, that's their choice.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-08-17   13:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: tomder55 (#8)

“Right now, no,” ... “we’ll see, later, down the line, who knows what’s going to happen.”

Wheres the shift? The answer is the same. No.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-17   13:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#11)

Glassner and Roger Stone were the 1996 Dole guys (Stone resigned over his sex scandal).

He has a strong Iowa organizer, the guy who helped Santorum (eventually) win Iowa in 2012.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-17   14:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: redleghunter (#10)

Having to post these pro-Trump articles today is making me a little nauseous. I think I'll leave town for a few days to recover.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-17   14:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tomder55 (#6)

In theory mass deportation is a solution to the illegals already in the country (is that his final solution ? Putting them on box cars leaving the country ?)

If they cannot work or get benefits, they will self deport.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-08-17   14:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#15)

Having to post these pro-Trump articles today is making me a little nauseous. I think I'll leave town for a few days to recover.

You are either 'fair and balanced' or getting a 'thrill up your leg' with all the Trumping about:)

"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan

redleghunter  posted on  2015-08-17   15:33:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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