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Title: Unconfirmed but interesting - Here are 4 Simple questions from an attorney...are there ANY logical answers ?
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URL Source: http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=30187751
Published: Aug 14, 2015
Author: unclewest
Post Date: 2015-08-14 01:04:09 by A K A Stone
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Views: 2781
Comments: 9

Unconfirmed but interesting -

Here are 4 Simple questions from an attorney...are there ANY logical answers ?

You be the judge:

Here's what I would like to know. If the TRUTH ever comes out and it is decided that Obama was never eligible to be president, what happens to all the laws he signed into being and all the executive orders? Should they all be null and void? Could be Earth shattering!

Here are 4 Simple questions from a reputable attorney...This really should get your "gray matter" to churning, even if you are an Obama fan.

For all you "anti-Fox News" folks, none of this information came from Fox. All of it can be verified from legitimate sources (Wikipedia, the Kapiolani hospital website itself, and a good history book, as noted herein). It is very easy for someone to check out.

4 Simple Questions .....

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Exist ?

Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". (check it below) I did this http:// Then I typed in

"History of Kenya" on the

Above is TRUE !

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#1. To: nolu chan, war (#0)

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?

I haven't heard that angle yet.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-14   1:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz, nolu chan (#0)

Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". (check it below) I did this http:// Then I typed in

The independent Republic of Kenya was formed in 1964.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-14   1:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#1)

I don't see the term African American on the "birth certificate" released by Obama.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-14   1:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)

I don't see the term African American on the "birth certificate" released by Obama.

No race is listed for the child. The father's race is listed as simply "African".

Not that I'm defending Obama, but before computers were used for record keeping, everything was either hand-written or hand typed, so if the clerk doing the typing had any inclination to put an alternate name in for things like an obscure African country, he may have done so and no one would have thought twice about it. While "Kenya" may not have been the official name of the country until 1963, it's likely the name preexisted that date in at least some informal manner and was generally respected. It's unlikely that in selecting the name of the country in 1963, they would have chosen something completely random. Doubtless, "Kenya" was chosen for a reason.

Having said that, it wouldn't surprise me in the least that the birth cert is a fake and Obama was born in Africa. I'm just too cynical to care, as in the big picture, considering the mess the USA is, it just doesn't matter.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-08-14   3:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I think the birth certificate, like much of everything else about Obama, could be considered a fraud or the result of extremely lax efforts of manipulative affirmitive action by supporters in key positions.

rlk  posted on  2015-08-14   4:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#3)

In the early Sixties, Hawaii was barely a state and Kenya was barely a country. Neither had routine administrative record keeping with any real accuracy.

You should recall Trump was the main person demanding Obama's BC. No one has asked him lately whether he thinks the Obama BC actually is legit.

As for legality, I think the courts would decide that actions of any prez were presumptively legal as long as the supposed-but-fake prez was regarded as a legitimate and legally elected president at the time of the laws being passed. They might get harsher if a fake prez got chased out of office with evidence that they had been the agent of a foreign power while in office (treason).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-14   5:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pinguinite (#4)

" it wouldn't surprise me in the least that the birth cert is a fake and Obama was born in Africa. "

I would not be surprised either. Considering how much is not known about the clown.

Obama was sold to the voters the same way they sell corn flakes. And the voters, being stupid and full of "white guilt", or thinking they were "hip", or wanted to "make history" voted for the SOB. The only thing that can be said in their defense, was that the Repukes put up losers.

At some point in time, a real effort needs to be made to establish that to be President, and many other offices, you should be a legitimate citizen of the US. Either by Statute, or Constitutional Amendment. No chance for divided loyalties. It should be done in an iron clad manner, with no room for weaselly lawyerly twisted interpretations. If not, this will all be repeated again. However, it may all be academic, as it does not appear the nation will last much longer.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-08-14   9:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#0)

" 4 Simple Questions ..... "

Good questions.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-08-14   9:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#0)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

Most of this is just recycled bullshit.

Here's what I would like to know. If the TRUTH ever comes out and it is decided that Obama was never eligible to be president, what happens to all the laws he signed into being and all the executive orders? Should they all be null and void?

Emphatically, NO. His orders and actions would stand. This question purports to be from an attorney. He should know this. See de facto officer.

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called 'Negroes. So how can the Obama 'birth certificate' state he is "African-American" when the term wasn't even used at that time ?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

This is afactual. The race of the child is not listed. The father's race is listed as African.

The term African race was used as far back as the Lincoln administration.

This is old birther blather warmed over and screwed up in the retelling.

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama's birth as August 4, 1961 and Lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, Right? At the time of Obama's birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama's father was born in "Kenya, East Africa".

This wouldn't seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet Exist ?

Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate". (check it below) I did this http:// Then I typed in

"History of Kenya" on the

The birth certificate says Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. A document certified by one state must be accepted as valid by all other states, and all federal courts. U.S. Const., Art. 4, Sec. 1, the full faith and credit clause. "Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state."

If Obama's father and mother were two illegal aliens, and the father's race was listed as African, and baby Obama was born in Hawaii, he was a natural born U.S. citizen.

If his father felt like saying he was born in Kenya rather than what it was called before it was called Kenya, so what? That does not change the place of Obama's birth, or that he was born in the territory of the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-08-14   21:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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