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Title: Yes, Trump Lost the Debate
Source: National Review
URL Source: http://www.nationalreview.com/corne ... 4/trump-lost-debate-rich-lowry
Published: Aug 12, 2015
Author: Rich Lowry
Post Date: 2015-08-12 09:37:23 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 13083
Comments: 132

Per this Suffolk University survey in Iowa that is not an online poll like many of the other post-debate surveys. Trump didn’​t suffer a catastrophe (he still leads in the state), but the debate hurt him:

The Suffolk survey has warning signs for Trump. By 2-1, 55%-23%, those surveyed say watching Trump in the debate made them feel less comfortable rather than more comfortable with him as a candidate for president. A 54% majority also reject Trump’s complaints that he was treated unfairly by the Fox News anchors who served as moderators; 41% agree with him.

And a third of Iowa Republicans say Trump – enmeshed in a post-debate contretemps over his comments about Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly – “doesn’t show appropriate respect for women.” A larger number, 46%, side with the real-estate mogul and reality-TV star, saying criticism of his comments about women “are just examples of political correctness.”

Then there’s this: Trump scores a big lead among those who didn’t watch the debate, at 21%, double the standing of retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who finishes second at 10%. But among those who watched the debate, Trump does less well, tied with Walker at 14%.

Trump is at 17 percent, Walker at 12 percent, Rubio at 10 percent, Carson at 9 percent, Ted Cruz at 7 percent, Fiorina at 7 percent, Bush at 5 percent, Kasich at 3 percent, Huckabee at 2 percent, Paul at 2 percent, and Christie at 2 percent.

Meanwhile, Trump still leads in New Hampshire, but is lower than he had been in prior surveys:

And Rasmussen has Trump losing altitude nationally:

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds Trump with 17% support among Likely Republican Primary Voters, down from 26% in late July before the first GOP debate. Senator Marco Rubio and former Florida Governor Jeb Bush are in second place with 10% support each, in a near tie with Fiorina and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker who both earn nine percent (9%) of the likely primary vote.

Next with eight percent (8%) come retired neurologist Dr. Ben Carson and Senator Ted Cruz at seven percent (7%). (To see survey question wording, click here.)


Poster Comment:

Trump's highest Suffolk poll standing in IA is among people who didn't watch the debate. So Trump polls best among Iowa's Know-Nothings. He could have advocated full-blown Soviet communism and still been their pick.

You can't deny that NR is still a hotbed of Trump haters ("Witless Ape Rides Escalator") so take it all, like any these goofy August name-recognition polls, with a big grain of salt.

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#18. To: TooConservative, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)

Trump won the debate on the first question by just raising his hand to indicate that he has some principals and won't necessarily back the GOP candidate, which is traditionally a POS. None of the others did, indicating that they're lockstep party hacks who'll back Satan should he receive the GOP nomination.

That's a likely possibility with a Bush! running.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-08-12   11:06:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: hondo68 (#18)

Trump won the debate on the first question by just raising his hand to indicate that he has some principals and won't necessarily back the GOP candidate, which is traditionally a POS.

Actually, that's when he lost the debate. The dustup with Megyn Kelly obscured that.

A lot of GOP viewers did not like his threat to go Perot on them after he filed for the GOP nomination and accepted a slot in the debates. Why do you think he was being booed all the way through the first debate in Ohio. They hated him.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-12   11:09:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TooConservative (#20)

Actually, that's when he lost the debate.

You're really dumb.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-12   11:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)

You're really dumb.

I am, aren't I?

Lines like that work better for Trump because he has (or claims to have) $10 billion.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-08-12   11:13:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: TooConservative (#24)

Lines like that work better for Trump

It wasn't a line. It was a truthful observation.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-08-12   11:17:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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