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Title: Trump out at #RSG15; Update: Fiorina to Trump: “There. Is. No. Excuse.”
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URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/07/breaking-trump-out-at-rsg15/
Published: Aug 7, 2015
Author: Ed Morrissey
Post Date: 2015-08-08 10:22:08 by Tooconservative
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Views: 94336
Comments: 479
Earlier this evening, CNN’s Don Lemon interviewed Donald Trump about the debate on Fox News Channel last night, and set off another Trump-related tempest. After noting that Kelly pushed Trump during the debate, and that she “pushed a lot of people” besides Trump, Lemon asked, “What is it with you and Megyn Kelly?” Trump’s reply was, er … colorful, to say the least [emphasis mine]: TRUMP: Well, I just don’t respect her as a journalist, I have no respect for her. I don’t think she’s very good, I think she’s highly overrated. But when I came out there, you know — what am I doing? I’m not getting paid for this. I go out there, and they start saying this stuff [garbled]. But you know, I didn’t know there’d be 24 million people. I knew it was going to be a big crowd because I get crowds, I get ratings. They call me the ratings machine. So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. But in my opinion, she was off base. Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate, but she asked tough questions of Marco Rubio on abortion too, and of other candidates on stage as well. As the front-runner, Trump should have expected tough questions, especially given his track record of supporting nearly every progressive idea at one time or another, including Hillary Clinton being President. Kelly also asked Trump about his remarks about women, which appears to have particularly rankled him — and pushed him into validating Kelly’s premise in asking those questions in the first place. After all, it’s not often when a major party candidate takes a shot at a woman by reminding everyone of her menstrual cycle. I’m certain that will really impress women about their place in the Republican Party. Trump was scheduled to speak at the Red State Gathering tomorrow, in the final slot at the event. Not long after these remarks, event organizer Erick Erickson announced that he had withdrawn the invitation: I have rescinded my invitation to Mr.Trump. While I have tried to give him great latitude, his remark about Megyn Kelly was a bridge too far — Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) August 8, 2015 That will undoubtedly anger some Trump supporters, but after last night’s debate performance and his thin-skinned whining afterward, I wonder if that group wasn’t already in decline. This might fire up the die-hard Trump troops, but suggesting that a journalist went after his target-rich record only because she was menstruating should be a disqualifier for most voters. It’s vastly worse than anything Todd Akin said, and will almost certainly have media outlets demanding responses from the other Republican candidates. It’s practically tailor-made for Democrats to hoist up the Republican War On Women banner, especially Hillary Clinton. Get ready for plenty of Team Trump dog-in-the-manger, sour-grapes quotes in the morning, if not overnight. There may be some legitimate anger among a small group of RSG15 attendees tomorrow who wanted to see Trump at this event, but Erick has a solid case for not wanting to have this overshadow the event tomorrow, with more presidential candidates on hand to make their pitches. Erick will almost certainly address this in the morning, and we’ll see what the fallout is over the rest of the day. Update: Carly Fiorina appears to be the first Republican candidate to respond to Trump’s remarks, perhaps fittingly so (via Twitchy): Mr. Trump: There. Is. No. Excuse. — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) August 8, 2015 I stand with @megynkelly. — Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) August 8, 2015 That’s interesting, because Fiorina actually deflected a Trump question at her presser today at RSG15 by asking why the media wasn’t calling out Obama for his offensive comments about opponents of the Iran deal. Not this time, apparently. Update: Erick has an explanation up at RedState: But I also think that while Mr. Trump resonates with a lot of people with his bluntness, including me to a degree, there are just real lines of decency a person running for President should not trust. His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong. I have invited Megyn Kelly to attend in Donald Trump’s place tomorrow night. Well, that would be interesting. We’ll see if she can swing that.
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About the names he called some women, trying to resurrect the old "Republican War-on-Women" theme. Yeah. There's a hot issue. Fox was trying to show how fair and balanced they were by putting Republican candidates on the spot. Does anyone think the MSM will show everyone how fair and balanced they are by putting Democrat candidates on the spot? We're killing ourselves.
I think like all other attempts to stab/smear Trump, this one will backfire against the accusers, and to Trumps benefit. F Fox, and to hell with M Kelly. They are both Toady's for the NWO. Si vis pacem, para bellum
Carly Fiorina: "I'm the new rising star Lion-ess of GOP Presidential candidates!" This broad Fiorina is a hologram. A fake. Wolf in sheeps' clothing. A hedge for Jeb. A totally manufactured candidate who is OBVIOUSLY following a script. She's just as manufactured a product as is the fake outrage against Trump. The Megyn Kelly-led "War on Women!" meme, and the un-holy matrimony of FOX News to the effete GOPe is now exposed to the world. How will Republican voters react to this manipulation? Q: Is there ANYTHING that either FOX News or the GOPe do that isn't contrived, staged bullsh*t?? Their relationship isn't much different than the symbiosis of MSNBC and the Dem Party.
What utter horsebleep. "Hostile"?? Did these a-holes watch the first few minutes of the debate and FOX News's hit on Trump?? Whomever watched it won't soon forget what they saw and hear WITH THEIR OWN EYES AND EARS. Megyn Kelly is a "lady"?? Since when? I thought she was...another female super-hero -- just like in the movies! She just demonstrated her own high-falootin' gun slinging "moderating", shooting up the saloon, aiming for Trump's head. But now suddenly she and Fiorina are delicate flowers WHEN it's convenient? And now they require "saving" by a White Knight like Erick Erickson?? Erickson is FOS. He's either a fake Pubbie and tool of GOPe, a Democrat(R), OR a homofascist. Or as I suspect, ALL of the above. We're finding out not only are the two political PARTIES colluding and co-mingling, but so too are the media -- particularly FOX News. Guess what? Trump *will* be running Third Party. Thanks to the un-masked FOX News MSNBC-lite and the GOPe, aka Dem-lite. And if the candidate for the GOP isn't Cruz or Walker, my vote goes to Trump. Hitlery or not, we're cratered.
Trump is a red herring.... this loosely scripted brouhaha with Megyn Kelly & Erick Erickson is intended to discredit populist concerns and make lackluster establishment candidates like Bush & Kasich appear more palatable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... And who is going to be his running mate? Jesse Ventura or Hulk Hogan? Trump is a total fraud.... his only goal is to cram yet another Bush down your throat.
Make Bush & Kasich appear more palatable? ROFLMAO! That is an epic failure!! Si vis pacem, para bellum
Blah, blah blah. Who gives a rat's ass? This nation is phucked no matter who is deemed captain at the helm to run this nation from any political party. The place is not fixable. You have to move out of this cesspool.
A woman who gets offended by references to menstruation is too much of a pussy to be President.
So "hot" I've got frostbite. Fake issue. Fake meme. The whole d*** political scene is a fake hologram...and Matrix. Fox was trying to show how fair and balanced they were by putting Republican candidates on the spot. Does anyone think the MSM will show everyone how fair and balanced they are by putting Democrat candidates on the spot? Lol...We know what the answer to that question is. With "friends" like FOX News, who needs enemies? FOX News is finally exposed as per their "faux news" moniker. It's a subversive Trojan Horse, just like the GOPe. We're killing ourselves. More like we've been fooled, betrayed, manipulated, hung out to dry, and lied to by those who've masked and been misrepresenting themselves and intentions. Over HALF this country has no major mainstream media that represents the truth, OR constitutional law. If it was EVER time to embrace "Conspiracy Theories" and the notion that there indeed is but ONE agenda supported by BOTH parties -- as well as EVERY major media outlet, it's clearly NOW.
Donald Trump says he would ‘love to have Oprah’ Winfrey as his 2016 running mate; check it out: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-love-oprah-2016-running-mate-article-1.2260917
He was only joking about that, or so I read. He was joking about that, wasn't he?
Even YOU do. This nation is phucked no matter who is deemed captain at the helm to run this nation from any political party. Still NOT necessarily. But you're now witness to THE mentality that "things CAN get worse." They did because with Hoosane as Prez, the Machine that was designed to destroy the US was even MORE oiled, MORE moled, MORE infested with subversives and saboteurs. With a Cruz or Trump, SOME of the damage can be reversed with the right candidate, the rats eradicated, and the pendulum can swing the other way. Probable, no. Possible, yes. But it would take a miracle. The place is not fixable. You have to move out of this cesspool. Where would/could you go? Look -- the odds to fixing anything don't look good, admittedly. Precisely becase The Fix has been in. Talk to Robert (RLK) about the Frankfurt School. Their agenda has been realized. As long as the media is given license to remain THE Message, and lies are portrayed as the "truth," we ARE screwed totally. What happened during this debate, to Trump, and the ideological sabotage and games played by the moderators, Kelly, Wallace, and Baier was an eye-opener. Even to moderates. The game indicted FOX News -- conservatives' ONLY previous source of "truth" as a tool of the GOPe and a subversive element.
Nope
Taxed to death to pay for foreign intrigue that goes nowhere while the US borders are allowed to be infiltrated by the lowest scum on the planet and receive full citizenship? Are you out of your phuckin' mind?
HA! A two-fer. (Ain't it the truth??) You see? ALL women are supposed to be soooo offended by Trump that it only reinforces the fake "War Against Women" (but what about the obvious war against Men -- white, Christian, straight in particular??) This meme is designed to help catapult Mrs. Hitlery Satan into the White Hut.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What of it?? Who supports it? HELLO. These are the issues of candidates to address what we're trying to support.
“He said that as a joke,” Trump said. “All of a sudden, they say, Donald wants Oprah. Give me a break.” From your link, bucky. I guess Trump can flip-flop with the best of them.
And you think he was serious?? Get real.
Lib, you.re usually on target. but this time you are dead wrong. And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6
His coiffure tells me all about him.
That FOX News show was ALL about all the liars on stage; not one of them give a damn about the US.
I don't think Trump gets a pass for being so crude by saying "the bad lady asked me mean questions".
Based on WHAT info, Yoda? Trump sez our politicians are "stupid liars." Do you disagree with that assessment? Only Trump's railing against the illegal invasion is getting the issue ANY attention at all, so much so that 'Kate's Law' (named after the young, pretty white girl who was brutally shot in the head by an illegal who was SUPPOSED To have been jettisoned back to Mexico) was proposed legislation. Trump is indicting the Uniparty system of fake support for fake constituencies. Btw, it doesn't appear as though ol' Jeb is building an iota of momentum. Don't know what campaign you're paying attention to. Speaking of "Frauds," the only pols YOU support are indeed MAXIMUM Frauds. Like Hitlery, 0buma, and any socialist, statist Dem you can hug and squeeze like a long-lost lover.
In her rather miserable 2010 CA Senate campaign, she was adamantly pro-choice and on the global hotting side. She was, in fairness, just recovering from surgery and breast cancer and had just lost an adopted daughter. I think she has prepared for and wants to be the new Palin, an attack dog that can defy the usual War On Women themes. She is a much better prepared candidate now than she was in her 2010 race or in her role in 2012 as a highly placed Romney surrogate. Given that she is appealing to the GOP party establishment, it's no surprise she's demoing her willingness to go on the attack yet again.
LOL. You've hedged all your bets this time.
On Fiorina? Gary, her past is subversive. Don't take my word for it, research it and the issues she's supported in the past. That she's already come out and dissed Trump was designed to portray her as the feminine voice of reason. She IS being supported behind the scenes as back up to Jeb. Her NEW image, her NEW words of NEW wisdom are scripted and manufactured. Don't be fooled into buying the Fiorina Fenomenena. Yes, she sounds good...TOO good. Where's she been all this time?? She's a Trojan Horse.
How many women voters, GOP or indy, really want to support a guy who is making crude remarks about a woman interviewer "bleeding from...somewhere" just because she lobbed a few hard questions? This is just Teh Donald, unscripted in all his glory.
Ok...I'll go with, ALL OF THE ABOVE :-) (bookmark this post, TC.)
Bucky, Bucky, everybody knows you are a member of the Rat Party.
And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6
The show was designed to be a klown circus. You got exactly what you thought it would be.
C'mon, she's in politics. She's raising money, cultivating party insider support. Of course she will take advantage of such an egregious statement by Trump. And with an ego bigger than Manhattan, Trump won't apologize at all or will wait until his crude remarks make him even more toxic with voters. Fiorina, as the lone woman candidate in the field, will exploit this to the max. Which is exactly what she is doing.
Did you notice it wasn't even a debate - the candidates vs candidates? It was Fox moderator pot shot time vs the candidates.
Even so, that happened two days ago so it is old news. Red State Gathering invited candidates. Huckabee, Walker, Cruz, Bush and Trump. The others are all coming. Trump is disinvited and his slot has been given to Megan Kelly to make a speech. Trump was the big evening speaker, the headliner really, and would have spoke in the College Football Hall of Fame (the others are at some lesser hall for the morning afternoon speeches). You suppose she will show up on stage, bleeding from...somewhere?
I absolutely know the following, Fred: this place is phucked into the future.
You and others assume Trump mean't she was menstruating. I think he regarded her as the devil ... which was his intent to begin with.
She was, in fairness, just recovering from surgery and breast cancer and had just lost an adopted daughter. In fairness, why should her personal her problems have played into her life philosophy? In order to be "fair"?? What proof have we that she's sincerely suddenly changed her mind on those two hot-button issues that are traditionally DEM red meat requisites? I think she has prepared for and wants to be the new Palin, an attack dog that can defy the usual War On Women themes. That portrayal appears to be the narrative/script for the time being. But now she's just defied her defiance of the "War on Women" theme by going after Trump. That didn't take long. She is a much better prepared candidate now than she was in her 2010 race or in her role in 2012 as a highly placed Romney surrogate. Yup, I agree wholeheartedly. Fiorina polished inside and outside, and seems to have attended finishing school for GOPe Candidates. Given that she is appealing to the GOP party establishment, it's no surprise she's demoing her willingness to go on the attack yet again. But THIS time, her handlers have jumped on the "Destroy-Trump!" bandwagon, which undoubtedly endears her to the RNC. My impression: Fiorina seems...almost TOO polished, too smooth, too confident. And NOW she can play off and exploit the "War on Women" card and not be treated "meanly" during the campaign. How utterly reptilian AND brilliant!
What exactly does "bleeding from...somewhere" mean then? You explain it for me.
Wow. Another stunt designed to remove Trump ffrom the stable of GOP candidates. The RNC has stabbed Trump in the eyeball with an ice-pick: Megyn Kelly. The fair-minded will be impressed. NOT.
It is a clever strategy, certainly obvious enough. Donald made an unforced error, Fiorina swoops in to capitalize on it. I saw a number of political consultants who think that Fiorina won both debates on Thursday. No one at the main debate had as good a night as she had in the 5pm debate. Then she raced to PMSNBC and kicked Chrissy Matthews in the balls. So she's on a roll and will definitely make the cut for the main debate upcoming on CNN. Where she can slice and dice Teh Donald to his face for a big audience. Let's imagine how that might go. She attacks him for chummy phone calls with Bill Xlinton and for saying he might run third-party. He makes some angry retort about her tenure as HP CEO. She then says something acidic in return and finishes with, "I hope you don't think I'm bleeding from...somewhere like you said about Megan Kelly, you crude buffoon."
It depends on what time of the month it is for Megyn, doesn't it?? Thanks to the MSM hysterics and marriage to both the GOPe and Democrats Party, this issue is petty, absurdly over-blown and inane. IOW, the usual politics in a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20 for cousins GOPe and the Dem Party who BOTH hate conservative America.
Well ... did you see or read his comment, "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes" prior to your later question?
Good. She's perfect. She'll bring the women, the blacks. He'll bring the white heterosexual males who still have an average of 2.0 balls per sack, and that will produce a political majority so large that they will move things. It will also scramble the color divide on party and break the uniparty hold on blacks and women and trailer trash. Trump/Oprah in 2016. Because the other candidates are all dwarves, imps and monkeys who have never done anything, but Trump and Oprah are at the top of their profession, and good with people, and people like then. Trunp/Oprah: rich people who are a whole lot more like us. I like it.
Carly is just the ticket for cuckservative RINO's. I'm certain the average vter is just itching to have another president who embraces outsourcing of jobs to Red China, importing more cheap labor. She backed McCamnesty to the hilt in 2008. The war against Assad promoted by her boy has led to Christian women being sold as sex slaves in Syria. These cuckservatives are sure like the Pharisees went it comes straining the gnat from the soup. Ruperts RINO babes remind me of the line from the Don Henly song "Dirty Laundry:" We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond who
He said: "So I have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her … wherever. Exactly where is this "whereever" that blood is coming out of her? It seems it wasn't her eyes because Donald wasn't satisfied with that, he went to say she was bleeding from "somewhere" else but didn't finish his thought. So where is this "somewhere" that Megan Kelly (much as I dislike her) is bleeding from?
So, whom do you prefer, Biden or Hillary? 'Cause that's what you're going to get. Obama's AG will either go after Hillary, giving the White House to Trump, or he will pronounce the issue clear - and give Hillary the green light. And given what the Republicans have on offer, the Democrat wins. So, Biden or Hillary? I pick Biden.
As far as I am concerned, she is a devil. Blood drips out of her, "whatever."
Christian women are being sold as sex slaves in the Middle East thanks to her boy Juan McCain's jihad against Assad.
Probably right now. They do it every month. It makes them difficult to get along with.
Christian women have been sold as sex slaves in the MIddle East since the Roman Empire. If we really cared, we would use our massive foreign aid budget to buy all of them and free them.
To bad for me there aren't any "socialist", statist Democrats of power who are pro-life, eh? Cause I'd embrace that candidate too.
Yeah, something like that. Good projection. So IOW, Fiorina is THE perfect GOPe candidate to castrate Trump with impunity. Fiorina's got an unsavory past. I'm sure The Donald's advisers are preparing for her cheap shots and position as the only woman aboard the GOPe Express. At the probable cost of his "Republican" standing. THIS is how low the GOPe and RNCe have stooped in order to shut down Trump and prevent him from exposing the establishment Republican treachory, stupidity, and treason. Oh well. This political strategy of siccing Fiorina on Trump is not unlike the old NHL (hockey) strategy of sending out an expendable goon to goad the star player into a fight in order to remove them from the ice. Donald made an unforced error, Fiorina swoops in to capitalize on it. ONLY because she's a woman. I saw a number of political consultants who think that Fiorina won both debates on Thursday. No one at the main debate had as good a night as she had in the 5pm debate. The second tier debate was unfettered by the antics of Kelly and Wallace, and moderated professionally. Again, Fiorina should be commended for following her political advisers' script, her make-up artist, and new "conservative" pupa....and becoming a GOPe butterfly.
Yup. You're an enigma, Vic :-)
Even YOU do. Reminds me of how Yukon used to spam LP threads with comments about how he "DGAS" about the thread's subject matter; to the point where the majority of comments on the thread were his "DGAS" comments. They seem to think alike. Perhaps that was how he was able to figure out Yukon's password?
Maybe we should recall what her question was about Trump's record of namecalling over the years. ABC: The issue took center stage at the first Republican debate of the 2016 campaign for president, when Fox News moderator Megyn Kelly asked Trump about his use of such language and whether it reflected the "temperament of a man we should elect as president." Trump largely dismissed Kelly's question at the debate, but on Friday he went directly after her. Before dawn, he had retweeted a post calling Kelly a "bimbo." The post was later deleted, but on Friday evening Trump called Kelly a "lightweight." "She's not very tough and not very sharp," Trump said during a phone interview on CNN. "I don't respect her as a journalist." Referring to Kelly's questions during the debate, Trump said, "There was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever." Citing that remark, conservative commentator Erick Erickson said he was withdrawing his invitation for Trump to appear at his RedState Gathering in Atlanta on Saturday. "I just don't want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal," Erickson wrote on the RedState website Friday night. "It just was wrong." Trump's campaign responded: "This is just another example of weakness through being politically correct. For all of the people who were looking forward to Mr. Trump coming, we will miss you. Blame Erick Erickson, your weak and pathetic leader." In a series of interviews earlier Friday on network television, the billionaire businessman questioned whether he had actually used the words as Kelly had alleged during the debate. "You know, some of the statements she made about the women, I don't recognize those words whatsoever," Trump said on ABC's "Good Morning America." ''We're going to take a very serious look at it." Trump has a long history of lobbing insults at those he feels have treated him unfairly, and advises those who buy his books to do the same. "For many years I've said that if someone screws you, screw them back," he wrote in "Trump: How to Get Rich." ''When somebody hurts you, just go after them as viciously and as violently as you can." When doing so, he has repeatedly targeted women and their physical appearance. "Rosie O'Donnell's disgusting, I mean both inside and out. You take a look at her, she's a slob. She talks like a truck driver," he said in 2006 during an interview with "Entertainment Tonight." ''I'd look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I'd say, 'Rosie, you're fired'" from her television show, "The View." During the debate, Trump acknowledged making such comments — but only about O'Donnell. When Kelly said Trump's comments had gone beyond O'Donnell and asked about his use of such insults on Twitter, Trump replied that he didn't "have time for total political correctness." A review of Trump's writings, televised interviews and Twitter feed show he's long used harsh language to describe women — and occasionally men. In tweets sent last year, Trump called Huffington Post editor Arianna Huffington "a dog who wrongfully comments on me" and said she is "ugly both inside and out!" In 2012, Trump wrote on Twitter of singer Bette Midler: "But whenever she sees me, she kisses my ass. She's disgusting." Trump has also said the same of men. "Little @MacMiller, I'm now going to teach you a big boy lesson about lawsuits and finance. You ungrateful dog!" he tweeted in 2013 at a rapper who wrote a song titled "Donald Trump." And to former U.S. Rep. Barney Frank in 2011: "Barney Frank looked disgusting — nipples protruding — in his blue shirt before Congress. Very very disrespectful." During the debate, Kelly also referenced a boardroom scene from Trump's NBC's realty show, "Celebrity Apprentice," in which Trump was told by one contestant that a female teammate had gotten down on her knees to beg. "That must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees," Trump said in response. In the book, Trump declared that, "All the women on 'The Apprentice' flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That's to be expected." And he had this to say about women's victories on the show: "It's certainly not groundbreaking news that the early victories by the women on 'The Apprentice' were, to a very large extent, dependent on their sex appeal." On some occasions Trump appears to have recognized he's gone too far. In April, he retweeted, then deleted, a tweet that read, "If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?" Maybe he can hire the Sheriff Joe Posse to do that, just like he hired them to investigate Obama's birth certificate. That would be yuge and very classy. Just like Donald himself.
Surprisingly, neither McStain, Hitlery, or Hoosane get ANY "credit" from the MSM or Congress :-( Instead the REALLY HUGE news is Megyn Kelly being "abused" by Donlad Trump. and "The War on Womyn." What messed up priorities this dopey nation has. We deserve to elect an albino transvestite tri-sexual tree-hugger from Africa -- preferably gender: UNKNOWN. UNDECLARED.
Hmmm...interesting. ;-)
Obviously. And the argument will be made that she is the perfect choice to go after Hitlery in the traditional VP attack dog role. Her main competition for VP at this point is Kasich, reflecting a hope he would help carry Ohio. But she can unleash a lot of attacks no male candidate would dare to make. How better to prove it than by spit-roasting Trump right now, striking while the iron is hot and he made such an elementary error? I'm surprised she didn't wangle an invite to Red State's confab but she probably has fundraisers to attend after her big debate performance.
Christian women being sold as sex slaves in Syria is "War On Women;" and she supported one of the chief architects of the policy that made it happen. McCains pitch to the voters was "The illegals are never going home, the jobs are never coming back; and we'll be in Iraq for a hundred years." For some odd reason it did not resonate too well with the voters in 2008. The cuckservatives seem to think it will do better in 2016.
But...but...ONLY in America is there a "War on Womyn." Haven't the Muzzies in Africa gotten that memo yet? Or is American intel SO bad THEY are clueless?? CHRISTIAN women and children are made slaves in Africa by Muzzies. OR their appendages lopped off BY THE THOUSANDS with nary a WORD of protest from the US State Dept. IF we cared....we'd have already marched in DC with torches and pitchforks and cleaned the People's House of blood and its murderous demons.
Where would/could you go? I, myself, will go to France. Why? Well, because I'm a middle-aged man with a child. So, I need universal education through college, paid for. And I also need universal health insurance that covers everything, for myself, and my wife, and my child. And I need the stability of a guaranteed pension, so that I can plan for the future, when I get old and sick and can no longer work. Those are the three big economic structural needs of my life. Stable employment, where I can't be fired at a whim because some manager doesn't like me, is also a plus. In France, can get these things for approximately 50% of my income, paid in taxes and returned to me as benefits. In America, I can't get the job security at all, and I can only secure college, health care and retirement my spending, in total about 66% of my income on those different parts. So in France I can get more reliable services of what I really NEED, for about 16% less of my income. Also, in France, the actual costs of necessities - notably housing and health care - are lower, so I don't need to earn as much money. Those are the basics. Protecting those basics is the need for physical security. France has a lower crime rate than we do. The country can't be invaded by anybody because of nuclear weapons. So there's my answer to your question: I would move to France. France is imperfect. Notably, they permit abortion, as in America. It's a lot more restrictive, but it's still a right. It's a very socially conscious country, so my cachet will not be as high there as here. Unfortunately the abortion evil has dug in in all developed countries. It can only be avoided in the Muslim world, which is not an option, or in the Catholic world - Latin America and the Philippines. There are parts of Lain America that would work, although unfortunately the faith is weakening there, so abortion law may come in someday. The Philippines are lovely, but Filipina women are a moral hazard for me so moving there would probably imperil my soul. France, either metropolitan or one of the overseas departments down in the Caribbean. That works for me.
Willie is a big fraud. In the early days of LP he routinely referred to Mexicans as Messicans. And now he's taking Ann Coulter to task for not welcoming rapists and murderers from Mexico with open arms.
To think -- this man was THE best the GOPe could offer as the Republican Candidate for President? He said and did ALL he could NOT to be elected President. He's insane. God can't dump a large enough meteor on this planet as far as I'm concerned.
In the early days of LP he routinely referred to Mexicans as Messicans. And now he's taking Ann Coulter to task for not welcoming rapists and murderers from Mexico with open arms. It's sad what's happened to Willie. And ALL radical leftists who have NO idea what the US Constitution is actually about.
POLITICAlly, it's the perfect timing, and perfect VP candidate. She's auditioning.... I'm surprised she didn't wangle an invite to Red State's confab but she probably has fundraisers to attend after her big debate performance. Doors will start opening for her, no doubt. The GOPe has always rewarded their own with power, position, and great press...the NYT. Remember when McStain was their darling for FUBARing the conservative agenda?
Based on Trump deliberately undermining that assessment with his crude and unprofessional demeanor. Sucker... root for Trump, you'll get another Bush.
What Donald says does not offend me. Therefore, it is not offensive. The standard of what is "offensive" and what is not is mine. People who are offended by things that don't offend me are pantywaist pussies who should grow a thicker skin.
Obviously. It is politics after all. She'd have to be brain-dead not to jump all over this and ride the storm front of the raging Twitter thunderstorm raining down on Trump.
The targeted voters be wearing blinders. Fiorina's past...won't exist after her re-invention. Whether it all comes out in the wash is in question. In due time, ALL conservatives will be out of money and running who WOULD expose her, leaving only the usual GOPe patsies or tools. In the event the GOP tosses out Trump and his 25% of the electorate, I hope Trump runs 3rd Party...JUST to use it as a platform to expose the GOPe snakes. AND maybe even win in the ultimate %$#@! to the GOPe and Dems.
You're not the average voter these candidates are appealing to (GOP partisans and indy voters). So you aren't important at all. Surely you see this starts to create a major problem even for a notorious blowhard like Trump. At some point, his opponents will use the full dossier they've already compiled of all this bile he's spit out over the years and running ads against him.
I care. I love peace, so I'd offer cash to stop it with verification. If the cash were not accepted, I would declare war and conquer, and bring missionaries to convert in the aftermath, and I would target Islam, specifically, in the conquered lands, for de-Islamification, just like de-Nazification. If the cash were accepted, I'd give all of the freed women, and whatever families they had to go back to, and their children by their captors, if they had any, asylum in the US with a path to citizenship: abused foreign Christians who were rescued by America are EXACTLY what we need as voting citizens, ASAP. Which is why we should be handing out green cards to the abused Orthodox Christians everywhere in the Middle East. If you're a Middle Eastern Christian, and you want to come to America, the visa and green card should be as automatic as it was for Russian Jews. This should apply to Israeli Christians as well. We're propping up Israel anyway, so give the Israeli Christians the choice of emigrating to America. Let the Arab Israeli think truly be a Jewish Muslim fight,. Get the Christians out from in- between. And if the countries take the money, free the slaves, but then go back to enslaving Christians, war, conquest, slaughter, de-Islamification. The answer to slavery is war and Reconstruction, at the point of a gun.
Her aim had better be awfully good. FWIW -- much of that Twitter "thunderstorm" is BS. BUT perception (and reporting by the MSM and liberal blogs) is everything. I *knew* Megyn Kelly would be using her debate platform to self-promote AND front for....the Dems. She's an attention-whore. People are so naive and/or stupid. (yes, hedging again.)
It was Fox moderator pot shot time vs the candidates. " DING DING DING DING DING!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER !!! Si vis pacem, para bellum
So you aren't important at all. Surely you see this starts to create a major problem even for a notorious blowhard like Trump. At some point, his opponents will use the full dossier they've already compiled of all this bile he's spit out over the years and running ads against him. I sure hope the Democrats pick Biden, because if you take Donald out of the mix, the Republicans have nobody who can win, so the Dem will win. Biden would be all right. Hillary. Brrrrrrr. (Though at least she probably doesn't bleed every month anymore.) Megyn Kelly for President. The statistical probability of nuclear war will ebb and flow with the Moon cycle. Yeah, that's it. I have a monthly cycle myself. If some brazen bastard did something on the full moon, the chances that the US would send in the SEALS to blow off his head would shoot WAY up. So I DO understand, Megyn. It's just that the difference is that I recognize a guy who's a leader when I see him. But you're just a cunt.
LOL Ophra would not enter the same building as Trump.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
We are at only the beginning of the nomination cycle. Kind of has the feel of a new season of WWE. Culminating in the 2016 election akin to Wrestlemania. Perhaps Hulk Hogan should get in the race. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
You still a Trump supporter?
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Check out this blog post over ate VDare: Cuckservative Erick Erikson Disinvites Trump Because He’s Offended On Behalf Of Megyn Kelly. I'm not sure how Tim Groseclose and Scott Lincicome tie in Erick Erikson. I see that Scott Lincicome is a big time free traitor who shills for Obamatrade, so Trump clearly threatens his rice bowl.
She wiped out 30,000 American jobs at LP; while gobbling up H-1B visas like Meguro gobbling sausages. She's made a lot of enemies.
Certainly, she self-promotes. (Like Trump doesn't?) They knew they had a record audience (24 million). A lot of insiders think that she was auditioning to become the main anchor at ABCNNBCBS. The salary for that is over $30 million. And NBC lost Brian Williams and Stephanopoulos at ABC is tainted by his Xlinton connections. So there are obvious openings and Kelly's agent would be well aware of them. So, yes, Kelly may have an agenda. A yuge paycheck and the power of being a network anchor, independent of Fox News.
Yup -- dig a bit deeper below the hysterics of Trump's supposed "sexism" and the same entire maggot-infested rice-bowl of the GOPe and Dems are exposed. A lot on the plate there to contemplate for sure. Some great explanation of feminization, submissiveness and spinelessness of GOPe 'ers and RINOs -- referred to as "cuckservatives." Whereas the term is painfully accurate, it is a bit too...vulgar for me to use regularly. Conservatives and conservatism have indeed been (and are being) castrated by the establishment Republican wing.
Given that she is appealing to the GOP party establishment, it's no surprise she's demoing her willingness to go on the attack yet again. She will be the clear VP ticket choice of any governor GOP candidate who wins the primaries. I think unless she performs poorly that is how it goes down. Because the GOPe believe the war on women meme and Fiorina on the ticket as a feisty, combative alternative to Hitlery. Trump? He was right when he claimed the media would not be paying attention to illegals murdering Americans and the border issues without his voice. It is true his comments and also visits to the border put illegal immigration back on the issues "map." Regardless of his other unwise comments and flaws, Trump is correct that he made this a front and center issue again. Trump also breathed some life into the primaries this early on. Love him or hate him, no Trump no 24m viewers. Most tuned in to watch what would happen when someone not beholden to special interest groups would say. They tuned in to see what happens when someone seeking office speaks his mind. And how the others around him reacted to such. If Trump was not on stage I would gather the first debate would have had maybe 5-7m viewers and at this point we would not be talking about the debate. It would have been a usual low rating summer affair and very boring. Trump was the lightening rod and that allowed other candidates to crack from their shells earlier than we would expect. Except Bush of course who played his cards safe and stuck with the script. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Fat squeaky voiced dweeb.
Incompetent. Any ticket she is on will surely lose.
That was entertaining, thank goodness for English subtitles.
LOL the type of "television" Trump usually produces:) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
The DNC is probably trying to figure out how they got upstaged with the "Trump plan." They probably see Trump in the race as a master stroke of RNC strategery:) I heard they are now delaying their first debate. Wonder is Vasserman Sholtz is looking for a lightening rod:) As it stands all the Dim candidates are boring. Not good "television." "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
LOL Vic, "O" won't be in the same room as The Donald.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Hulk Hogan -- as a white male and symbol of male power -- was coincidentally singled out as ANOTHER political sacrificial victim on the altar of the "War on Womym." The Hulkster: "take you vitamins, eat your veggies and pray!!" Lol... I go back to the WWF -- the golden age of cartoonish "professional" wrestling. But, oh yeah; The feel is WWE/WWF-ish. It's time to remove the clown-cars, feathery boas, and mid-ring screeching from the political arena and resume 'adult" business as usual: IOW, the SAME EXACT stuff...only buried in the smokey backrooms and basement of the the elites' sanctuaries and out of view of the public. Trump dares expose THAT stuff and blow the lid off of the mirage that politics is NOT the WWF. Except that it is, only wearing blue suits, referring to Tea Party conservatives as %$#@! expletives, and whoring out the blood American vets, servicemen, AND America. Neatly. Silently. In Private.
You know they're trying to script up ways to tar the entire GOP with Trump. Media to any GOP nominee: "Why did you not confront Donald Trump's hate speech toward Mexicans or even Megan Kelly? Aren't you part of the GOP's War On Womyn?" Etc.
I don't respect FOX news nor the main stream GOP party so this is no shock to me. The rest of the so called conservative (not you per say) have to deal with what you are witnessing.
Is Trump the tar on the GOP or is the GOP the tar on Trump?
That depends on what the GOPe, FOX News, Megyn Kelly and Fiorina have of their collective pink sleeve.
Exactly.
Trump is just Trump, same as ever. He has always been only about himself. Being a New Yorker, he considers the GOP just a line among a few dozen others on the NY state ballot, probably has no idea it isn't like that elsewhere in the country. I think Trump is actually pretty naive about America generally, probably the worst in either field. Donald Trump's life is all about excluding the 99% entirely.
LOL -- I'd seen that. It's hilarious.
Bingo
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Talking like a Democrat there, Hoss! The GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican. Most party supporters kind of know this. Why? 8 years of Clinton prosperity in contrast to what went on in the Bush 8 years showed - at least subliminally - many Republicans probably had their political "faith" shaken by what happened. Of course these very same GOP members they have been saying all these talking points for years and are stuck in the faith but deep down inside they view their ideology like a failed religion. Sort of how pagans must have felt in the late Roman empire. They still sacrificed at the altar out of habit and tradition but deep down inside they know it is an empty faith.
Assume Trump is about Trump. But even if true, his legit words and anger over the illegal invasion and Sanctuary Cities did MORE to bring attention and address the problem than the last 6 1/2 years of GOP under Boehner and McConnell. Speaking of which -- are both Boehner and McConnell representing their own selfish interests, OR just the interests of their pimps? Don't tell me Jeb has ever been about anything BUT himself. Same of both Dubya and Poppy. Proof is in the pudding. I think Trump is actually pretty naive about America generally, probably the worst in either field. Donald Trump's life is all about excluding the 99% entirely. So naive that he's hit on the hot-button of many Americans, trouncing the GOP field in the polls before the GOPe colluded with FOX News to shut him down. Trump has demonstrated in word that he IS in tune with the world -- the 99% -- and not as naive or informed as you'd like to believe.
We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond who Worth repeating #Megyn Kelly
When Clinton was President the economy was still running on Reagans fumes left in the gas tank. By the time Bush became President the Clinton Stench was already taking hold.
Very crude but an accurate assessment. His comments on attractive women winning on his show is also accurate. Do you think Meg Kelly would have a plum job at Fox and her time slot if she was smart, accomplished and homely? Not. Perhaps that is what sets Trump off when Kelly asks him questions. He knows. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Kelly -- like most of these "news reporters" are NOT supposed to BE the "news." She -- like they -- are supposed to REPORT it. A lot of insiders think that she was auditioning to become the main anchor at ABCNNBCBS. The salary for that is over $30 million....there are obvious openings and Kelly's agent would be well aware of them. Hadn't heard of that theory, but now...it ALL makes sense, doesn't it? So, yes, Kelly may have an agenda. A yuge paycheck and the power of being a network anchor, independent of Fox News. I'm sooo glad that Kelly's fortune and stock will rise on the ashes of an America she helped burn to the ground. This bimbo (who's used her ass-ets as...ASSETS) has ZERO integrity. She crossed several lines while whoring her way into Babylon. Her condescending "What does God say to you" line of questioning to select candidates will never be forgotten by people like me. Of course THAT attitude and question must have gotten all the secular, homofascist, atheist alphabet execs into a orgasmic tizzy.
They're going the way of the Whigs. The Whigs cucked themselves to the democrats, who wanted cheap labor, and the political advantage. They made a habit of betraying Whig voters, and Whig voters found a new party. That's how the GOP rose, and that why it is falling now. It has ignored the lessons of history, and is now being damned to repeat history. Whatever else; it is nice to see the suffering of RINO's and cuckservatives.
No, that is bullshit and a wilful forgetting of history. The fact that Bush was president in between Clinton and Reagan is forgotten by you? What engine do you know that runs on fumes for 4 years? In any case, Clinton era economy showed that raising taxes has zero effect on an economy. Gingrich and most Republicans screamed that the raising of taxes would tank the economy and that did not happen. Bush came in and cut taxes and the economy sank regardless.
Seems like he has established a game plan based upon Angelo Codevilla's "Country Party." GOP thought they could keep selling anti-freeze labeled as wine and never lose market share.
More than ever.
Even if true, I don't think America wants a prez that talks like that.
Good observation but I would say the GOP died as a party when the Great Depression happened. The American people of that time blamed the Republicans both for Prohibition and for the Great Depression. By the early 20th century the two party system was cemented into place. That one called itself Democratic and Republican was just an identifier of one of the two parties. So even though the GOP died, it lived on as being the "other" party on the ballot as part of our two party system. After WW2, the GOP won again by being Democrat light with Eisenhower, but lost big time again. The racial politics of the south allowed Nixon to steal white Dixiecrat votes and Reagan continued that via Reagan Democrats but that is about it. The GOP kind of clawed itself back but it won the Congress via gerrymandering - Less people voted for Republicans over all than Democrats. The Republicans still sound like it's a party arguing over things I see in 1970s reruns of Archie Bunker. It is like they got fixated on issues that were all the rage in the 1970s and like some crazy homeless person just keeps repeating the same argument they had with someone over 40 years ago and continue arguing with this imaginary person while they collect cans. It is 2014 and the Republican talk radio just sounds like it is arguing some right vs left issue from a 1970s Archie Bunker episode.
Americans don't know what they want. That is why God created advertising.
Personally, I would have picked Greta instead. But Kelly was given Hannity's slot to try to improve demographics with younger women. FNC has been a channel for old men. Horny old men from rural areas who like to watch women read the news in low-cut dresses with a high hemline. : ) Even so, all these media types are always colluding with their agent to strategize their careers. They flip from one network to another. Look at how Beck left CNN to come to FNC for their first afternoon talk show.
Failed because the globalist country club cabal throttled the party and divided it into TWO parties. Anyone who not gotten that memo by now is...in a coma. Deep down inside they [Republicans] know it [Republicanism] is an empty faith. If there's an "empty faith," is the the Scientology of political parties -- The Democrat Party, a cult which votes and thinks monolithicly, and does exactly what they're told -- like L. Ron Hubbard's Cult. Their party platform is actually the disbelief in a deity (yet they worship themselves and others within their cult. ); Their "holy" sacrament is abortion; In brief, their creed is, "Gimme your preborn baby and body parts to sell; We pledge their blood-money to our Master, The Beast of the Underworld. We steal your tax-money and even help finance the Holy Abortion Industry...BUT defend the rights of lions and tiger and bears to live -- OH MY!" Dems are the vilest, lowest, most evil beings of God's good earth. Remove abortion from the equation, and these people still remain illogical, self-absorbed, vile, vicious, evil, divisive, covetous, and liars.
to TRY to shut him down. He's not shut down if the people react to that lynch mob with leaving Fox and telling Megyn Kelly to STFU every time they see her. They're after him. Support him MORE. And when they belittle Trump, and belittle Trump supporters, belittle them back. Be sure to use words that they find "offensive" - they're aiming to control the language and control you by controlling the language. Hit them back and make them retreat from you. Do not concede any ground, any where. Enough. Take the stand and shout them down. They try to intimidate, yell louder, shout them down, Do not let them flap their shit traps to speak their conniving words. If they are so easily frightened, then scare the living shit out of them. Trump is still very much in the game. He meant NOSE. He bloodied her NOSE. Carla Fiorina hyperventilated from her skirt - not Presidential material. She was a useless failure of an executive and gets her panties in a wad IMAGINING slurs against women that are not there. A whiny, useless person, who was useless as a mere corporate executive. Shut her up. Shut them down. Give them nothing. Trump is in the game. And people like it, like him, and think that people who whine about talking about giving a reporterette a bloody nose are pussies.
Remove abortion from the picture, and I see a Democrat party that presses for universal education, health insurance, retirement, and that so far has gotten us Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, the GI Bill, the VA Loan, and weekends. So I'd say that it's too bad that the Democrats are babykillers, because absent that, they would be the best party to represent the middle class. Crony capitalists never have had anyone but themselves at heart. But, alas, Democrats ARE babykilling ghouls, so they're not acceptable. It's a shame. It means nobody is acceptable. Trump, at least, tells it like it is. In the absence of any good parties, I at least somebody who doesn't try to blow sunshine up my ass.
Well boo hoo for the ones who don't. They need to man up and grow thicker skins.
HA! Yeah... The GOP will continue doing that -- lying, bullying, betraying, poisoning us and the nation. And serving us a big fat elephant turd on a paper plate and reminding us to stop complaining. BUSH, McCONNELL, BOEHNER: "SHADDUP!! The MENU is MUCH worse over in the Dem Party."
So you think it's fine for a man to talk about giving a woman a bloody nose? Seriously? Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable. You know exactly what he meant.
Perhaps that is what sets Trump off when Kelly asks him questions. He knows. +100 Trump is an insider who knows all the secrets of the elites and just how loudly money talks. Eye-candy who can exploit their charms and editorialize and fake being a conservative like Kelly are a dime a dozen. Trump's biggest sin: betraying the secret insider pinky-shake of the 1%'ers. And THAT is the reason the elites are stampeding him. Hopefully monied elite like him will be bold enough to break the fraternity of evil that binds them.
LOL! The bimbo has about as much chance of landing an anchor job as Whorealdo does.
Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable. You know exactly what he meant. Yes. Women are equal nowadays. When a woman stands up to you toe to toe to try to take you out, you beat the shit out her verbally just exactly as she will do to you. And if she hits you, you take her out physically. They are not prissy little creatures, they say they don't want to be treated as prissy little creatures, they are, in fact, often manipulative, temperamental nasty bitches who deserve to be slapped down verbally just exactly like men - and they never hesitate to do it. Celtic women - French, Irish, Scots, etc, have always been fierce and difficult. Megyn Kelly is not some tender little damsel in distress. She came out there to have a fistflght with Donald Trump. She did. And she's been empowered by it. She and Fiorina. When women run things, it's always a miserable fucking disaster. No. Donald meant her nose. I would've meant her cunt.
Yep, true. Megyn is taking heaps of criticism -- she couldn't have expected the degree or volume of impassioned disappointment and contempt. That said...does a fallen tree in a forest make a sound if no one hears it? Expect a black-out of Trump by a collusive media. The kook Beck and the Blaze had sworn NOT to even mention Trump's name before the debate. They're after him. Support him MORE. And when they belittle Trump, and belittle Trump supporters, belittle them back. It's an interesting dynamic, isn't it? The depth of Trump's support and relating to the 99% is incredibly under-estimated by the media as well as the RNC/GOPe. Be sure to use words that they find "offensive" - they're aiming to control the language and control you by controlling the language. Hit them back and make them retreat from you. Do not concede any ground, any where. Enough. Take the stand and shout them down. They try to intimidate, yell louder, shout them down, Do not let them flap their shit traps to speak their conniving words. If they are so easily frightened, then scare the living shit out of them. Lol -- with ya, Vic. Nice to see we're standing shoulder to shoulder on this. It transcends simple politics. This is a war of attrition; Over principle. And of free speech. And against lies winning over truth. Trump is still very much in the game.... He meant NOSE. He bloodied her NOSE. Carla Fiorina hyperventilated from her skirt - not Presidential material. She was a useless failure of an executive and gets her panties in a wad IMAGINING slurs against women that are not there. Fiorina has been consulted on how exactly to spin this ambiguous statement to their advantage. That spin will be reinforced jointly by the new Axis of Evil -- GOPe, Dems, and MSM. Her artillery offensive is based SOLELY from under her skirt. Correctamundo. Trump is in the game. And people like it, like him, and think that people who whine about talking about giving a reporterette a bloody nose are pussies. Lol...this has got you goin'! Giddy up, Vic! Trump won't make this easy for them.
They've used that spending NOT out of compassion, but as weapons of personal and party POWER. Some of those items are earned, some designed as a safety net...but NEVER as an ENTITLEMENT. They provide Exibit A is to why the USA is $19 TRILLION in debt; It's just not sustainable. Someone is profiteering, and it ain't the above people. It's lobbyists, those businesses and politicians who've been overcharging on the increased numbers of lazy, parasitic, generation welfare slobs...And those whose pensions for the leftist/socialist cademe and goob drones rake in upwards of $50k+ with Platinum health insurance. bennies. Some retirement bennies start at age 45 or so. Gimme a break.
Deep down inside they [Republicans] know it [Republicanism] is an empty faith. If there's an "empty faith," is the the Scientology of political parties -- The Democrat Party, a cult which votes and thinks monolithicly, and does exactly what they're told -- like L. Ron Hubbard's Cult. OK, one more time because you don't get the point. Republican conservatives deep down inside have a crisis of faith regarding the economic ideology of the Republican party. All the bad things the GOP party said would happen under Clinton in terms of the economy did not happen - the economy was booming. All the good things that should have happened to the economy after W Bush passed tax cuts, etc did not happen and the economy sank when trickle down should have worked because the rich had more of their money to spend and people had more of their money to spend. Obama passes a tax increase and now we are passing the economic level Romney said his tax cuts would take us to. Big business was given tax cuts but they cut wages or held back on raises to people since Reagan's 1980s. So no trickle down. What this amounts to is Republican base members thinking they need to sacrifice an animal at the altar or the sun won't shine the next day. One day they don't sacrifice the animal and the sun rises anyway. They realize that the sacrifice has zero to do with the rising or setting of the sun but continue to do it out if habit - meanwhile no one mentions this out loud but deep sown inside they know their sacrifice to the sun god is meaningless. That takes its toll on the true believers psyche. It has to.
I believe in "Equality" -- don't you? NEWSFLASH: Women start fights, are murderers and assault people too. Sometimes there are consequences. Just sayin'.
Yes. Women are equal nowadays. I am probably rationalizing Trump's boorish behavior (and I am a supporter) but if women want to be treated as equals and not like children (their pre suffrage legal status) then they can be metaphorically punched bloody. Politics is a blood sport it is said, is it not? The thing with Trump is that he is saying, I may talk like this but I am a highly competent business man/man of action. I will fix problems - I am a problem solver. Steve Jobs is praised as some sort of genius - and he was in a way. But he was also a complete asshole and boor as well. But if he ran for president his talents are so great that it outweighs having poor manners. Same kind of thinking people have with Trump. He has poor table manners but he will fix stuff. Also, here is the unsaid truth that the GOP is freaking over - ideologues don't solve shit. If ideology says 2+2 must equal 5 then an ideologue will never really fix a problem where the answer is 4. So deep down many Republicans must be thinking this. Trump will fix this and because he is not a true conservative all that bullshit we know is conservative ideological bullshit ideology (like capitalism's love of free trade is good for American jobs) won't get in his way.
All the bad things the GOP party said would happen under Clinton in terms of the economy did not happen - the economy was booming. An economy, freedom and business atmosphere STILL basking in the policies of Reagan and Poppy Bush. Reagan's policies made the US a powerhouse during the 80s midway thru the 90s. Yes, REAGAN. Klintoon's 8 years of over-officiousness, over-regulations, and anti-business policies soon helped jettison American factories and business to China. HELLO. 0buma passes a tax increase and now we are passing the economic level Romney said his tax cuts would take us to. And where is that? To hell in a hand-basket?? Two socialists whose nonsensical policies are devastating the US economy is NOT a surprise.
A debtor nation is not an economic power house indicator. That is like saying you are rich because you live off my credit cards. Clinton raised taxes and the economy boomed. He used the raised taxes from a booming economy to balance the budget. Bush, jr cut taxes and gave all the American people a refund because individual Americans know what is best with how to use their money and their credit card bills rose and the economy sank anyways. Reagan actually cut taxes and had to raise them again. No windfall in revenue came from cutting taxes - it did not somehow grow revenue from investments or some such.
I think he meant eyes; that is old term for being out to get someone. Megyn is a Fox News star; and they've got an agenda of supporting the RNC establishment picks. Most of the drones on that stage are fine to Rupert, but an independent guy like Trump is not. Rupert's RINO's are pushing an agenda, and threats to the agenda need to be ambushed. The globalist RINO is not too popular with the folks they're peddling it to; so lots of subterfuge. The RNC vineyards have not produced a good vintage in decades; so tey've resorted to passing off anti-freeze as wine. But they do not dare label it truthfully.
I agree. We need to do more to get Christians in the ME out of that Muslim hell hole.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
It's not sustainable as we do it. It is sustainable the way that France, Sweden and Denmark does it. Oh, and those three countries are the only places in the entire world where the WHITE birth rate is stable at replacement rate. EVERYWHERE ELSE has a less generous safety net, and therefore everywhere else has a white middle class that is dwindling in numbers because the fertility rate is below replacement (in America, it is WELL below replacement), and that is because the middle class simply do not feel secure enough to have children, or to have ENOUGH children to maintain their population. So the whites are dying out, everywhere EXCEPT France, Sweden and Denmark. That's it. That's all. And what do France, Sweden and Denmark have in common? Highly progressive and redistributive taxation, which prevents excessive wealth accumulation at the top through taxes, and spends those resources on the sort of comprehensive social safety net that makes the middle class feel secure enough to have babies. So they do. I myself, personally, am simply tired of arguing with Americans about it. Love your money and your system that much? Fine. Fucking die out and be replaced by Mexicans. Because that is what will happen. In 25 years the French will outnumber the Germans, and France will once again be the most populous and economically powerful country in Europe again. That is because of an intentional, comprehensive, targeted program of shoring up families and redistributing the national wealth to them so that they have children, so that the children are well-nourished, well-educated, and everybody is well-cared for, and the elderly are provided for. That's expensive, but it works. People are secure, and so they invest in the real future by having children, more and more. Sweden and Denmark do the same thing. Works there too. Works everywhere. It's WHY people are having babies. Know why France conquered Germany in 1806-1807 and again in 1808? Because the French had 35 million and the Germans had about 10 million. The French overwhelmed them with numbers. Know why France almost failed in World War I? Because by then, Germany had bloomed to 70 million, but France had 35 million. In World War II France was conquered by a country that outnumbered her 2:1. That's what happens when you focus on everything in the world but what matters to breeding families, and you heap burdens on them and refuse to relieve those burdens, refuse to redistribute wealth from the rich: your people don't breed, and you shrink in numbers, and then the more numerous people across the border come and take your land from you. That's what happened to France, which is why they have a long-range, determined program to increase their population, and why the subsidize the necessities of life: because that's the ONLY WAY TO GET BABIES. People who are economically overstressed and who do not have security, do not have babies. Americans don't. The English don't. The Germans don't. The Greeks don't. But the French do. And the Swedes do. And the Danes do. Not coincidentally, they also have the most comprehensive social safety nets, and the most redistributive tax systems: children cost money, and raising them up to be well- educated adults who can contribute to the national advancement costs a lot of money. The French, Swedes and Danes spend the money, so they have the babies. And that means that France will be the alpha card in Europe. European French people will be the most numerous, and they'll be staring across borders and waters at an England full of old white people and young Pakistanis, and a Germany full of young Turks, Polish immigrants, but a dying out German population that is being replaced in the land. In 100 years, America will speak Spanish, for the same reason. Demographics is destiny, and it is power. It is culture and language. It is everything. The only way to have robust demographics is to incentivize it. The only way to do that - the only way that actually WORKS in the real world of real numbers - is progressive taxation, massive wealth redistribution, and a heavy and comprehensive social safety net. I'm on the side of life and victory. I know why France was overrun by Germany in the World Wars, and why America and the USSR won: numbers. America is being overrun now, because of the numbers game. We've aborted and contracepted a huge hole in our economy and our future. The birth rate has collapsed. So we have two choices, the RIGHT one, which would be to pay workers much higher wages, for their scarce labor, or the one we've done, which is import. We have imported our future. I'm Latin and Catholic - having America turn into Mexico doesn't bother me. It's inevitable. demographics is destiny. It doesn't have to be, but Americans refuse to be realistic about what it takes to get white middle class people to have children again. Stuck on stupid and unwilling to change, white America will simply die out and be replaced. "The actress hasn't learned the lines you'd like to hear. She won't join your clubs. She won't dance in your halls. She won't help the hungry once a month at your tombolas. She'll simply take control as your disappear." - Evita.
After Republicans overthrow of a regime that protected Muslims the best one can offer is an evacuation of Christians from where Christianity began. Bush's presidency was a disaster.
Consuming your way to wealth is the hallmark of RINOnomics. The ethos of Aesop's grasshopper is that of the modern GOP. Those who save the surplus of what the earn are only to be regarded as targets to be swindled by guys like Jon Corzine.
So, yes, Kelly may have an agenda. A yuge paycheck and the power of being a network anchor, independent of Fox News. Interesting. She can go to a TV network and finally be herself. NBC misses their old Ava Braun (Katie Couric). They can get a new one. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Media to any GOP nominee: "Why did you not confront Donald Trump's hate speech toward Mexicans or even Megan Kelly? Aren't you part of the GOP's War On Womyn?" Etc. Yes that fraud Wassamen Schultz made that clear to Kelly after the debate. Frankly it's an effective tool for them to do so given the tools we have voting these days. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Yeah all happened after the Contract with America in 1995. The same Congress that shutdown government to curb Bubbas spending sprees. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Don't be so sure. Before, I've said that I would never vote Republican again. Now I will if Trump is the nominee. Trump has earned my support, by drawing forth the poison and making it expose itself for all to see. I see it, and I see how it strikes at him, and when it strikes at him using these cunning little ploys, it strikes at me. I'll vote for Trump as a Republican. I'll vote for him as an Independent. Hell, I'll vote for him as a Democrat. It's not about parties. The parties are totally corrupt. It's about a method of manipulation that seeks to nullify what a person is by creating shifting walls of what is "acceptable discourse". Acceptable to WHOM? The more Trump fights, the more I will back him now. He has already won my vote. Now, I want to see him tear them to pieces, have better ideas (example: his common market in health insurance: he's right about that). If they want to make it personal, then make it PERSONAL. Toe to toe, face to face. See, Donald Trump s a good guy. He's an honest guy. I can see it. THEREFORE, when he is attacked like this, whoever is doing the attacking is a scumbag, a shill, a cheat, a cunt - by definition. By definition, if you oppose Donald Trump now in the media or the Establishment, it's obvious that you're evil and part of the problem. So the more that they attack, the more righteous he is, and the more evil they obviously are. That's the only way to fight this. Unleash a whirlwind of fiery hate. They use controlled hate to try to manipulate, it's cold hate. The response should be a volcanic blast of focused hate that literally destroys everything in its path. And if Donald wins, after having had to divide the party. He should not walk through and make nice. He should walk through and execute the wounded on the field. Use the IRS files, just like they all do, to TAKE OUT the rich who came after him. He knows their tricks. Destroy them. It's revolution, and it comes from a mouthy aristocrat. Trump should be the modern Lafayette.
The same Congress that shutdown government to curb Bubbas spending sprees. So, the Republicans controlled Congress, and therefore the Republicans are responsible for the Clinton prosperity? OK. So, the Republicans have controlled Congress now during Obama's term, so are they to be blamed for Obama's failures? Or is it just a one way door? Democrats controlled the House during Reagan's entire tour in office, and the Senate during part of it, so Democrats are to be credited with much of the Reagan success, yes? Or is this just a one way door? If it's a one way door, I'm not buying it, because one way doors in politics are lies designed to bolster one party over the other. And I have a very low tolerance for lies.
Which tells us something, about you and about Trump. But since it's Saturday night, maybe it's time for a music video.
Yah, yah. It's been done already. A link from AoS:
Your talking points deep political commentary is paper thin. I will again mention Bubba was restrained by a GOP dominated House and Senate. Which means he taxed high in the first two years, lost the Dem House majority and was not able to raise taxes the final 6 years. Add to that a GOP balanced budget. If not for the Gingrich Congress, Bubba would have spent us into the same oblivion that Bush 2 and Obola did. The success of Bubba was not raising taxes, which later he said he did too much, but realizing the new GOP congress was not going away and looking for things he could do to increase his legacy. For example the reform of welfare he signed into law. Of course Obola blotted out that accomplishment of Bubba-Gingrich. Stop reading those DC area textbooks. National economics are a lot more complex than we all think. And takes years to figure out all the dynamics. A good explanation here: As for Gingrich, he was quite accurate when he said the economy did better in the '90s after the Republicans took control of Congress, in particular after the '97 tax cuts. In fact, the Gross Domestic Product shrank in the first year after the Clinton tax hikes to an annual rate of 2.9 percent down from 1992's 3.4 percent. That's right: the economy as measured by GDP was better the year before Clinton took office and raised taxes than it was the year after. By far the best years under Clinton came after the Republican tax cuts when the GDP grew annually by 4.5 percent, 4.4 percent, 4.8 percent, and 4.1 percent from 1997 to 2000. The best job creation also occurred after the Republicans took over Congress with less than seven million new jobs created in 1993 and 1994 compared to over sixteen million in the next six years. As for the fiscal impact of the Clinton tax hikes, the left always ignores that we ran budget deficits in his first term. It was only after the Republican tax cuts that surpluses occurred. As for the stock market, Gingrich was of course correct that it did far better after the Republicans took over Congress than the two years when the Democrats controlled everything: I explained this all on Willie's horrible thread where you made the same claims. You did not respond to the data. Here's the entire piece: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/12/09/newt- gingrich-schools-lawrence-odonnell-clinton-tax-hikes "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
The same Congress that shutdown government to curb Bubbas spending sprees. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/09/lawrence-odonnell-newt-gingrich- apology-meet-the-press_n_2267553.html O'Donnell and Gingrich were both panelists on the program's roundtable. During a discussion on the fiscal cliff, O'Donnell reminded Gingrich that he falsely predicted in 1993 that the economy would suffer if then-President Bill Clinton raised tax rates. "Who said this?" O'Donnell said as he started to read off a piece of paper. "'The tax increase will kill jobs and lead to a recession, and the recession will force people out of work and onto unemployment, and actually increase the deficit.' That’s Newt Gingrich in 1993 on the Clinton tax increase." O'Donnell turned to Gingrich and said that "those working on the other side of that tax increase," which included O'Donnell, "have been waiting for [his] apology for 20 years for being completely wrong about that." From 1993 through 1995, O'Donnell served as staff director of the U.S. Senate Committee of Finance.
Yes it does, about me. I don't know what the support of some nobody tells anybody about Donald Trump. He's his own man.
This prediction did not happen. Clearly the economic theory failed to meet the prediction. This contradiction between the official ideology and the facts is what I propose has destroyed confidence in GOP's current ideology on a subliminal level. This I think is the real reason Clinton was deeply hated by the GOP. Clinton was a conservative Democrat more than any in recent history yet he was hated. Why? He exposed the other side's operating thesis as a lie.
[Vicomte13] to TRY to shut him down. What matters at this point is how he plays with the GOP primary voters, not the GOP moderate leadership. While the flash polls are not scientific, I think they may better reflect the GOP primary voter than Frank Luntz. How many times has the Trump campaign been declared dead now? Trump utterly dominated the flash polls. He has not only commanded all the attention in the GOP campaign, but has relegated Hillary's campaign, if there is one, into obscurity. What little press she gets is for her email and hanging with the Kardashians. Remove Trump and the GOP field is as charasmatic as Pajama Boy. A GOP problem is that when Trump is on the stage, the others appear to be lightweights in comparison. Would one prefer Trump to negotiate America's deals, or one of the others? Next debate maybe they can ask for a show of hands, who believes they are better qualified to negotiate America's deals than The Donald. The conservatives are fed up with GOPe candidates, GOPe non-leaders in congress, and GOPe in general. WSJ gives informative graphs on the debate. Who spoke to whom, how many words each spoke, how many times each received applause, laughter, or cheers. And a cartoon (this did not take long):
Megyn is not as pretty or hot as she thinks she is. I recall when she first got the new show and came on to tell everyone not to hate her for being pretty because she wasn't as pretty as the FNC makeup artists made her look. It was far from the first sour note of narcissism from her. OTOH, she is nowhere near Trump's league, a world-class narcissist.
Me too. But she was ushered out of CNN because she asked lib politicians tough questions. FNC has been a channel for old men. Horny old men from rural areas who like to watch women read the news in low-cut dresses with a high hemline. : ) Self indictment TC?:) "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Ever looked at all the FNC panty vids on YouBoob? They even post vids of FNC news-sluts crossing their legs, going berserk if they think they can see panties. Only old guys can get that excited over such minor stuff. The younger men are too jaded.
I rather liked the Russian new channel with the info babe who literally stripped during the show and sat there bare chested reading the news at the end. See, the Russians have some things right.
Hey Vic, Sharknado marathon on SciFi channel. Don't miss it:)
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
OK. So, the Republicans have controlled Congress now during Obama's term, so are they to be blamed for Obama's failures? Or is it just a one way door? Democrats controlled the House during Reagan's entire tour in office, and the Senate during part of it, so Democrats are to be credited with much of the Reagan success, yes? Or is this just a one way door? If it's a one way door, I'm not buying it, because one way doors in politics are lies designed to bolster one party over the other. And I have a very low tolerance for lies. Yes, no and maybe so. Reagan held a gun to Tip O'Neal's head by going to the people telling them the Dems were blocking a recovery. Tip saw that and came to the table to negotiate with Reagan and he did. Similar to what happened with Bubba and Gingrich but Gingrich held the loaded gun. I responded to a simplistic claim that Bubba raising taxes is what caused a good economy in the 90s. Not true as evidenced. The make up of macro economics is more complex and I pointed that out. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Now I know you don't read my posts. I quoted from the transcript of the same Meet the Depressed airing. Didn't you go to the link I provided? "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
You have comprehension issues or just don't read my posts? You have twice responded to me with clips of refuted positions. Also check the time line. Was Newt House speaker in 93? What happened in 94 after the tax increases? How many balanced budgets happened after 95? Look at those balanced budgets and the tax reductions in them that Clinton signed into law. Basically just read everything I posted and you will see O'Donnel never got an apology and was taken to school by Gingrich. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
It is you who does not comprehend. I am talking about the GOP ideology which all you retards spout like it came from the bible. 2 years before the contract with America a tax increase was passed - under Republican ideological thinking - this was declared to be a disaster for the economy a full 2 years plus before any contract was passed this did not happen. Either a theory works all the time or it does not. If it does not it is an invalid theory. The Republican theory failed.
Inflation and unemployment went down despite a tax increase. Sounds like the GOP doom and gloom over a tax increase is a false theory. Unemployment keeps falling. in 1998 it was below 5% all with high taxes especially on the rich. How is this possible per GOP ideology? 1999 Unemployment is at 4.5% - that is like saying pretty much everyone is working. Bush, jr gets elected and cuts taxes and instead of growth or steadiness the economy collapses. Again proving the GOP thesis on taxes and job growth is bullshit. http://www.1990sflashback.com/1993/economy.asp Inflation: 2.9% Consumer Price Index: 144.5 Unemployment: 7.5% http://www.1990sflashback.com/1994/economy.asp Inflation: 2.7% Consumer Price Index: 148.2 Unemployment: 6.9%
Some tweeting about Trump via Mediaite: Come Saturday morning, a few of Fiorina’s fellow GOP candidates offered their tweeted support for her statements and for Kelly. Perhaps the most surprising was the brief vote of confidence from Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker: I agree with @CarlyFiorina, there’s no excuse for Trump’s comments. Stand with @MegynKelly. -SW — Scott Walker (@ScottWalker) August 8, 2015 Former Texas Governor Rick Perry, a frequent verbal combatant of Trump’s, also chimed in with some harsh words for the businessman: .@realDonaldTrump's attack on @megynkelly proves once again that he does not have the temperament to be President. https://t.co/eEp4Zk7uds — Rick Perry (@GovernorPerry) August 8, 2015 A little less surprising was Senator Lindsey Graham, who not only voiced his support for Fiorina and Kelly, but also shared a few choice comments about Trump: .@RealDonaldTrump unrelenting & offensive comments about @MegynKelly puts the @GOP at a crossroads w/Mr. Trump — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015 .@GOP – it is better to risk losing w/out @RealDonaldTrump than trying to win w/him — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015 .@RealDonaldTrump comments are not worthy of the office he is seeking nor consistent w/the leadership we should expect from POTUS — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015 Graham even went so far as to commend Erick Erickson‘s decision to rescind Trump’s invitation to the RedState gathering in Atlanta on Saturday: I applaud Erick Erickson & @RedState for doing the right thing when they disinvited @RealDonaldTrump — Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2015 Even Senator Ted Cruz, one of candidates most friendly to Trump on the trail, spoke out on the matter: Cruz tells reporters “every Republican candidate should treat everyone with respect,” Kelly is “terrific journalist.” Then… (1/2) — daveweigel (@daveweigel) August 8, 2015 However, he quickly added a caveat: … Cruz chastises media for asking. "I'm not going to engage the back and forth on personalities. I get that's what the media loves.” (2/2) — daveweigel (@daveweigel) August 8, 2015 The real fun begins when one digs a little deeper into Twitter’s cesspool of asinine political commentary and trolling. Such is especially the case when surveying the responses of professed social media conservatives. Many support Fiorina’s stance, albeit with the occasional reservation: RT @carlyfiorina: I stand with @megynkelly. — Byron York (@ByronYork) August 8, 2015 I too, after much deliberation, stand with @megynkelly. — David Harsanyi (@davidharsanyi) August 8, 2015 I stand with @megynkelly and @EWErickson #DumpTrump #RSG15 — Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) August 8, 2015 The only #Republican candidate to stand up against .@realDonaldTrump. “@CarlyFiorina: I stand with @megynkelly.” #Trump — Victoria Brownworth (@VABVOX) August 8, 2015 And we stand with you. RT@CarlyFiorina: I stand with @megynkelly. — Carl Gustav (@CaptYonah) August 8, 2015 Others, however, throw their hats into the Trump-branded ring without fail: Yep. I stand with @realDonaldTrump. If Megyn Kelly wants to dish it out & bring personal agenda to a debate, she should be able to take it. — Lauren Michelle (@NYCVixen) August 8, 2015 I’m very sorry to hear this Katie. If you stand w/ @megynkelly I no longer can stand with you. Regretfully so https://t.co/J86Q3OAgp2 — Johanna (@C0nservativeGal) August 8, 2015 megyn kelly stands with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. i don’t stand with megyn. — Mark (@mark85nh) August 8, 2015 Via @CarlyFiorina: I stand with @megynkelly. @realDonaldTrump @DanScavino #Are U worried Mr. Trump will out debate you?? Don’t worry he will — Drew Hanson (@johnnyreb1864) August 8, 2015 @CarlyFiorina terrible decision to stand with a media personality. Terrible. They will flip on you.. Aim higher. — Jayne Patton (@JaynePatton) August 8, 2015 Of course it wouldn’t be the bat sh*t-crazy end of Twitter without at least one conspiracy theorist in the mix: @CarlyFiorina @megynkelly Trump is a plant by the Clinton’s to ensure Hillary wins. He’ll run 3rd party and hand her the White House. — Ryan Schumacher (@NoChillRyan) August 8, 2015
You did not look at anything I posted. GDP decreased in the succeeding quarters AFTER the tax hike. GDP gained later in the 90s AFTER the contract with America. Clinton can take credit for the increase in GDP given he signed the Republican plan into law. That is not in dispute. Only that tax hikes led to growth. The evidence shows different. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
So the tax cuts proposed and signed into law after the contract with America did not contribute to growth? The balanced budgets? There was no spike in growth one mere year into a tax hike. As I said and showed there is more to national economics. It is not monolithic. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Clinton can take credit for the increase in GDP given he signed the Republican plan into law. That is not in dispute. Only that tax hikes led to growth. The evidence shows different. No. http://useconomy.about.com/od/GDP-by-Year/a/US-GDP-History.htm 1993 2.7% growth rate $6,878.7 Nominal GDP (in billions) $37,171 GDP per Capita. 1994 4.0% $7,308.8 $38,008 GDP ALMOST DOUBLED after a tax increase. How is that possible per GOP tax theory? You fail once again. Contract with America not passed yet. Contract with America was passed in 1995 and GDP went down to 2.7% Why do you want to believe this lie so badly you lie about history?
@CarlyFiorina @megynkelly Trump is a plant by the Clinton’s to ensure Hillary wins. He’ll run 3rd party and hand her the White House. — Ryan Schumacher (@NoChillRyan) August 8, 2015 After how most of the GOPe came after Trump, I would not be surprised if he flips them off now and start his 3rd party run. He knows how long that will take to do. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
The balanced budgets? There was no spike in growth one mere year into a tax hike. As I said and showed there is more to national economics. It is not monolithic. One again, why did the tax cuts of Bush fail to keep the economy booming and why did Clinton's tax increase not destroy prosperity? Answer? There is no correlation between the two. It is just a campaign talking point - a gimmick where a majorly complex thing like macroeconomics can be distilled into a one sentence line to throw out to the ignorant. I mean it sounds scientific and I mean lower taxes and the economy booms right? I mean if taxes are up people can't spend on stuff to buy and the economy slows, right? Sounds like it's based on economic science. But then how can an increase in taxes bring about a hot booming economy? The GOP can't explain how their theory failed to produce the predicted result.
— Ryan Schumacher (@NoChillRyan) August 8, 2015 After how most of the GOPe came after Trump, I would not be surprised if he flips them off now and start his 3rd party run. He knows how long that will take to do. If the Clintons are that smart and Machiavellian than they deserve the White House. I say this as a Clinton hater. Why are not the Republicans this clever?
Start at about 4 minutes asshat.
Because Bush did not decrease spending. He expanded social programs along with a huge bill for two wars. Big difference. When you expand the size of the economy with tax cuts, but expand spending how much government spends, you get disaster. Same principle when you raise taxes and yet spend what you collect and beyond you get disaster. When you have Bush 2 economics followed by Obolo economics you have what we see today disaster. Clinton raised taxes in 93. The GOP Congress curbed spending by balancing the budget 4 times. Clinton was a tax and spend Democrat. He taxed but could not spend. He needs to thank Newt for this legacy. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
So Ericson invites the homo activist Megan Kelly to speak. What an asshole.
Why are not the Republicans this clever? Lol. Good point. Where are the GOP ruthless operatives? The answer is quite easy IMO. They don't have the MSM in their corner. The one Obolo pretty much owns. So the Clintons better beware too. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
From the c words faceshit page Faye Wall You owe your viewers an apology for your performance last night Kelly ! What Kelly ! What a shame . 1,692 · Yesterday at 11:45am .. 58 Replies · 5 mins . Shana Doty Disappointed in your performance last night. Totally disappointed. I guess EVER ON guess EVER ONE does have an agenda 1,303 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 50 Replies · 6 mins . Diane Sroka Benjamin Fox had a chance to educate the public last night. Instead you played go you played gotcha politics. MSNBC could have done better. Huge audience and you blew it. 7 blew it. 7,023 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 279 Replies · 1 hr . Charles Franco Fox and you were the losers last night Megyn, not Trump. 937 · Yesterday at 11:28am .. 14 Replies · 14 mins . Jack Schnitz Last night was Megyn Kelly's audition for MSNBC. 3,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 74 Replies · 1 hr . Shauna Baldy 9 out of 10 Americans now dislike Megyn Kelly. {the other 1 still loves obama}..... Well done Fox, well done Megyn, your attempts to hurt Trump backfired, and now more than ever, Americans are on his side. "Oopsie" on your part!!!! Sham part!!!! Shame on you for no...See More 908 · Yesterday at 1:55pm · Edited .. 48 Replies · 1 hr . Rick Germain You really bought into the whole Democrat "War on Women" falsehood, Megyn Kelly. Took you for smarter than that. Sad and disappointed. 3,110 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 89 Replies · 26 mins . Elaine D Love Megan bought and paid for by the establishment. So disappointed 2,837 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 110 Replies · 5 hrs . Mary Walker Still haven't outgrown that high school mean girl phase, huh? You ruined what c ruined what could have been an epic debate last night. 2,818 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 117 Replies · 34 mins . Victor Cropp You're a disgrace. I hope you enjoy all the backlash from implementing implementing your "secret plan" to embarrass the front runner. Trump 2016! 706 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 22 Replies · 4 mins . KarenMarie Saracino It should not be so obvious that you hate Donald Trump. In a one on one a one on one interview, ok , but as a debate moderator.... It was very Candy Crowley. 6 Crowley. 694 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 11 Replies · 6 hrs . Joshua Galle Megyn, here is what I sent your executives this morning at 2:15am following the debates, and then sent as open letter all over social media. I've tracked 7,500+ likes or shares this far and google analytics show you took a bashing from your prior foll...See More 4,031 · Yesterday at 11:35am .. 554 Replies · 29 mins . Bryce Lambley You were rotten last night. Blew it completely. Had a chance to educate the p educate the public and instead were petty and childish. What a ruined opportunity, opportunity, and it's going to be hard to get your respect back. It is NOT ABOUT YOU. So ABOUT YOU. Sorry, but so disappointed in your behavior last night. 671 · Yesterday at 11:41am .. 7 Replies · 5 hrs . Fran Jasmine Very disappointed... 675 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 10 Replies · 5 hrs . M Daniel Lewis Our nation is pushing 20 trillion in debt, Iran is getting nukes, ISIS is chopping off Americans heads and burning people alive in cages, our government is paying an agency to chop up and sell the body parts of aborted babies and YOU are asking a candidate to address an imaginary war on women issue created by the Democratic Party? Shame on you kelly 2,518 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 111 Replies · 29 mins . Alexander Carr Won't be following fox news or megyn Kelly anymore after last night. Disapp night. Disappointed 613 · Yesterday at 11:40am .. 6 Replies · 1 hr . Kendall Smith you looked good but you went after DT too hard backlash will be brutal on bot brutal on both you and him! I thought you were more fair and balanced than that! 1,811 · Yesterday at 11:29am · Edited .. 78 Replies · 4 hrs . Kevin Wilson Megyn, the listeners sure are bashing you about last night. I hope you have a re you have a response to the criticism on tonight's show. Don't act like A Clinton and t Clinton and think we don't deserve an answer. 585 · Yesterday at 11:35am .. 24 Replies · 1 hr . Jeff Navarro You disappointed me last night. Unexceptable behavior. 2,234 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 77 Replies · 6 hrs . David S Ficco Definitely not fair and balanced last night. Very dissappointed dissappointed.... 518 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 4 Replies · 1 hr . Keith Peterka Sorry Megan you were the Democrats and Establishment mobster. Very disappointed in the lack of professionalism. 524 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 19 Replies · 1 hr . Rob Shooer Megyn Kelly proved to be no better than any MSNBC "journalist" looking to ask the gotcha question. Her questions were weighted against certain candidates, and it's time for her to just go to CNN where her style of journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, Very disappointed in the lack of professionalism. 524 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 19 Replies · 1 hr . Rob Shooer Megyn Kelly proved to be no better than any MSNBC "journalist" looking to ask the gotcha question. Her questions were weighted against certain candidates, and it's time for her to just go to CNN where her style of journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fa looking to ask the gotcha question. Her questions were weighted against certain candidates, and it's time for her to just go to CNN where her style of journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Pr candidates, and it's time for her to just go to CNN where her style of journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amo journalism is advocated. Her question to Trump about women could have been a legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced legitimate one, had she not added her own acusations, spin and slant. She's objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replie objective? Ha! 505 · Yesterday at 11:34am · Edited .. 8 Replies · 1 hr . James Eberle After last nights questions by Megyn Kelly on the debates, I have decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . decided to Unfriend her on FaceBook. No class Megyn, NO CLASS! 1,929 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 128 Replies · 1 hr . RexandLinda McAdam Very disappointed in your performance last night. I have been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas been a fan for a long time, but will probably take a break from your show for a while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am while. Prior to the debate the viewers were told that all would get the same amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 9 Replies . Joan Hunter Incredi amount of time. This did not happen. The questions were not as "fair or balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 9 Replies . Joan Hunter Incredibly difficult to find the "fair & balanced" during the debate last night balanced" as promised. 465 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 5 hrs . Mike Webb I'm really disappointed in you and Fox. 1,765 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 48 Replies · 4 hrs . Cheryl Simpson There were more important questions than his ancient tiff with Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 9 Replies . Joan Hunter Incredibly difficult to find the "fair & balanced" during the debate last night. Very, very disappointed! 1,597 · Yesterday at 11:28am .. 29 Replies · 51 mins . Jenny Cason Crowson Classless act last night. Very disappointed in your behavior. 412 · Yesterday at 11:36am .. 1 Reply . Rosie... 1,751 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 41 Replies · 2 hrs . Ale Cardenas Nuñez Not "fair and balanced" Very disappointed! 424 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 9 Replies . Joan Hunter Incredibly difficult to find the "fair & balanced" during the debate last night. Very, very disappointed! 1,597 · Yesterday at 11:28am .. 29 Replies · 51 mins . Jenny Cason Crowson Classless act last night. Very disappointed in your behavior. 412 · Yesterday at 11:36am .. 1 Reply . Jeff Koffron Very disappointed in your performance last night Megyn. Sorry but you had a real chance to promote the Republican Party and bring positive notice to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Reall debate last night. Very, very disappointed! 1,597 · Yesterday at 11:28am .. 29 Replies · 51 mins . Jenny Cason Crowson Classless act last night. Very disappointed in your behavior. 412 · Yesterday at 11:36am .. 1 Reply . Jeff Koffron Very disappointed in your performance last night Megyn. Sorry but you had a real chance to promote the Republican Party and bring positive notice to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card f behavior. 412 · Yesterday at 11:36am .. 1 Reply . Jeff Koffron Very disappointed in your performance last night Megyn. Sorry but you had a real chance to promote the Republican Party and bring positive notice to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · you had a real chance to promote the Republican Party and bring positive notice to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . to our candidates and, instead, you choose to be catty and disrespectful, pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yeste pushing your own agenda to the forefront. Really like your show but really, really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 64 Replies · 2 hrs . really disappointed last night. 400 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 13 Replies · 2 mins . Gary O'Flynn No Christmas card for you this year, Megan. Last night was a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 64 Replies · 2 hrs . Candace Lausman Kollath Disappointed in your ambush of Trump. It was below you, &'probably elevated him in the polls. Happy? 1,442 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. a 'typical' media butcher job on the people you don't personally like. So much for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 64 Replies · 2 hrs . Candace Lausman Kollath Disappointed in your ambush of Trump. It was below you, &'probably elevated him in the polls. Happy? 1,442 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 69 Replies · 2 hrs . Keri Trefny You were to for fair and balanced. 406 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 5 Replies . Michael Moran So when is the Kelly File moving to MSNBC? 1,624 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 64 Replies · 2 hrs . Candace Lausman Kollath Disappointed in your ambush of Trump. It was below you, &'probably elevated him in the polls. Happy? 1,442 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 69 Replies · 2 hrs . Keri Trefny You were totally disgusting last night! Check out social media out about you and your performance ! Alot of your viewers you lost last night !...See More 404 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 8 Replies . Constantine Rojas Soriao Megyn Kelly has never been that tough &'probably elevated him in the polls. Happy? 1,442 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 69 Replies · 2 hrs . Keri Trefny You were totally disgusting last night! Check out social media out about you and your performance ! Alot of your viewers you lost last night !...See More 404 · Yesterday at 11:27am .. 8 Replies . Constantine Rojas Soriao Megyn Kelly has never been that tough on her illegal alien guest, Jose Antonio Vargas so why start on our Dear Leader Donald Trump? Trump is an American citizen. Why so much hate on your fellow patriots? Why so much love with a criminal who isn't suppose to be here? 401 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 12 Replies · 3 hrs . Greg Peyton Megyn Kelly, YOU'RE FIRED.... 1,860 · Yesterday at 11:57am · Edited .. alien guest, Jose Antonio Vargas so why start on our Dear Leader Donald Trump? Trump is an American citizen. Why so much hate on your fellow patriots? Why so much love with a criminal who isn't suppose to be here? 401 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 12 Replies · 3 hrs . Greg Peyton Megyn Kelly, YOU'RE FIRED.... 1,860 · Yesterday at 11:57am · Edited .. 79 Replies · 4 hrs . Dennis Gonzales At the top of my list were: the economy, the 18 trillion dollar debt, beheadings, radrica much love with a criminal who isn't suppose to be here? 401 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 12 Replies · 3 hrs . Greg Peyton Megyn Kelly, YOU'RE FIRED.... 1,860 · Yesterday at 11:57am · Edited .. 79 Replies · 4 hrs . Dennis Gonzales At the top of my list were: the economy, the 18 trillion dollar debt, beheadings, radrical Islam, Obama's trampling on the constitution, and the rampant corruption in Wash DC, After Kelly opened the debate with her question to Trump, I did not realize the more important question facing the nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . debt, beheadings, radrical Islam, Obama's trampling on the constitution, and the rampant corruption in Wash DC, After Kelly opened the debate with her question to Trump, I did not realize the more important question facing the nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . Edmond Sarpong You could have done better. You pissed the rampant corruption in Wash DC, After Kelly opened the debate with her question to Trump, I did not realize the more important question facing the nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . Edmond Sarpong You could have done better. You pissed me off with the Trump questions 379 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. question to Trump, I did not realize the more important question facing the nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . Edmond Sarpong You could have done better. You pissed me off with the Trump questions 379 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 7 Replies · 1 hr . Susan Biroc You are a nation was Trump's name calling of Rosie Odonnell ! ! ! 1,652 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 78 Replies · 1 hr . Edmond Sarpong You could have done better. You pissed me off with the Trump questions 379 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 7 Replies · 1 hr . Susan Biroc You are a falling star after your display last night. I hope Trump gets in. Funny thing Megyn.... before the debate started hubby and I said to each other... wouldn't Megyn make a great press secretary to Trump? No questions 379 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 7 Replies · 1 hr . Susan Biroc You are a falling star after your display last night. I hope Trump gets in. Funny thing Megyn.... before the debate started hubby and I said to each other... wouldn't Megyn make a great press secretary to Trump? Now most of your fans can't stand you after your pitiful, arrogant unprofessionalism reared it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. gets in. Funny thing Megyn.... before the debate started hubby and I said to each other... wouldn't Megyn make a great press secretary to Trump? Now most of your fans can't stand you after your pitiful, arrogant unprofessionalism reared it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 19 Replies · 37 mins . Sherri Shelby Springer You dis each other... wouldn't Megyn make a great press secretary to Trump? Now most of your fans can't stand you after your pitiful, arrogant unprofessionalism reared it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 19 Replies · 37 mins . Sherri Shelby Springer You disappointed me last night 1,327 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 2 your fans can't stand you after your pitiful, arrogant unprofessionalism reared it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 19 Replies · 37 mins . Sherri Shelby Springer You disappointed me last night 1,327 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 23 Replies · 10 hrs . Cindi Kalla Lesnick So unprofession it's ugly head. 359 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 19 Replies · 37 mins . Sherri Shelby Springer You disappointed me last night 1,327 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 23 Replies · 10 hrs . Cindi Kalla Lesnick So unprofessional with a 'performance' of a kindergartener...smh......Apparently the 'plan' that was put in place to deal with someone who didn't go along with the rules was geared at the wrong person.........backfired bigtime .... 328 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 6 kindergartener...smh......Apparently the 'plan' that was put in place to deal with someone who didn't go along with the rules was geared at the wrong person.........backfired bigtime .... 328 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 6 hrs . Andrew Klatt For whatever it's worth to you, yo with someone who didn't go along with the rules was geared at the wrong person.........backfired bigtime .... 328 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 6 hrs . Andrew Klatt For whatever it's worth to you, your performance during last night's debate is resulting in me removing yo person.........backfired bigtime .... 328 · Yesterday at 11:30am .. 2 Replies · 6 hrs . Andrew Klatt For whatever it's worth to you, your performance during last night's debate is resulting in me removing you from my Facebook, and also, me never tuning in to watch your program. Your agenda last night was very transparent, and this is a huge black eye to the FoxNews network. 326 · Yest night's debate is resulting in me removing you from my Facebook, and also, me never tuning in to watch your program. Your agenda last night was very transparent, and this is a huge black eye to the FoxNews network. 326 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 5 Replies · 6 hrs . never tuning in to watch your program. Your agenda last night was very transparent, and this is a huge black eye to the FoxNews network. 326 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 5 Replies · 6 hrs . Susan Brosmer Barrier Was more an interrogation then debate quest transparent, and this is a huge black eye to the FoxNews network. 326 · Yesterday at 11:26am .. 5 Replies · 6 hrs . Susan Brosmer Barrier Was more an interrogation then debate questions Megyn. Every 'question' was prefaced with a derogatory statement about the candidate. A member of the audience had to bring up the status of veterans to you! Very disappointed. 304 · Yesterday at 11:40am Every 'question' was prefaced with a derogatory statement about the candidate. A member of the audience had to bring up the status of veterans to you! Very disappointed. 304 · Yesterday at 11:40am .. 3 Replies . Debbie Kirby Super dis A member of the audience had to bring up the status of veterans to you! Very disappointed. 304 · Yesterday at 11:40am .. 3 Replies . Debbie Kirby Super disappointed in your display last night. 1,263 · Yesterday at 11:24am .. disappointed. 304 · Yesterday at 11:40am .. 3 Replies . Debbie Kirby Super disappointed in your display last night. 1,263 · Yesterday at 11:24am .. 48 Replies · 7 hrs . Gregory Rehak Your fired after last night! Fair and balanced yea right 267 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. 3 Replies · 1 hr . Scot Garland Megyn Kelly you totally blew it 255 · Yesterday at 11:44am .. Erica M Stewart Saddened by your commentary last night. Deeply disappointed in all three of you. 536 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 8 Replies . all three of you. 536 · Yesterday at 11:25am .. 8 Replies . Heather Feather YOUR remarks to Donald J. Trump last night were VERY unprofessional and despicable. I think you owe him and the American people an apo unprofessional and despicable. I think you owe him and the American people an apology...frown emoticon 251 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 23 apology...frown emoticon 251 · Yesterday at 11:29am .. 23 Replies · 1 hr . Randy Bowen Megyn Kelly, I lost all respect for you last night. 705 · Yesterday at 11:33am .. 11 Replies . Tom LaLumiere Was it walking down this corridor that you decided to abandon the role of Moderator and conduct role of Moderator and conduct an ambush instead? 239 · Yesterday at 11:32am .. 1 Reply . Brent Wilson Megyn Kelly - Sad that you chose to attack people rather than just ask ask the important questions. You guys tried to set Trump up from the very first que question. What happened to fair and balanced? 227 · Yesterday at 11:42am
It might not work the way some think. Keep in mind that Trump's show was largely concentrated in Blue states, primarily the eastern seaboard. I've seen audience breakdowns on Trump before, when he was threatening to run. If conservatives are hungry for a win after 8 years of Obola (and they are), it could be that Trump is mostly capable only of drawing off Dem voters, not GOP voters. But given the Dem advantage in the states where Trump's fanbois are the thickest, it might only reduce Hitlery's advantage, maybe force her to campaign a bit more in those states.
I would except that Mark Levin is as worthless a blowhard as Trump himself.
I'm not sure that she accepted the invite. It was on short notice and, as a debate moderator, she couldn't talk much about the debate herself without disqualifying herself for moderating in later debates (FNC will host at least 4 more in the primaries and for the 2016 election). So I doubt she accepted the invite. Not sure what RedState was going to do if she didn't show up. I thought it was funny when Erickson tweeted, "I paid for that microphone and this is my show." Trump might want to think twice about bashing up Erickson who is a regular CNN contributor. CNN could decide to have him as a moderator next month in their debate, for instance.
I knew you were to much of a pussy to see what he said. I guess you don't want the tr the truth. You'd rather bend over and take it up the ass from Bush then Rubio then C then Christie then Perry then Hillary. You're a whore. You're probably so stupid you think Trump made a comment on the apprentice ab about getting a BJ. You have the establishment so far up your ass that it is poking out your front side.
Cuckservatives like Erick Erickson are big on inviting rapists and murderers into America; so one of Rupert's RINO's is actually an improvement. These cuckservatives deal in dishonesty, they've been peddling anti-freeze as wine; that sort of thing takes a dishonest person. I've seen these clowns lie about blood in the eye being about menstruation, that cuckold is a term used to describe Christians. These guys deal in lies; you cannot trust them; they've been liars for a long time, like calling amnesty for illegal aliens "earned legalization."
You think Trump is afraid of the fat boy? Trump won the first debate and he will continue to win. You didn't have a clue when you said Trump wouldn't file is financials. Then you showed you were really clueless when you said he wouldn't file his FEC paperwork. Then you showed what a moron you are when you said he was finished af after ripping POS McCain. Then you continue to dig deeper and deeper still. According to you Trump would have already dropped out before the CNN debate. You're a clueless 1/4 wit. Your record of insightfulness is SHIT!
What is going to be funny is the backlash toady will receive.
You're a whore. He needs to posture a lot; because what he's peddling is not very popular on Main Street. Carly Fiorina represents just the type of globalist RINO that he loves. Carly Fiorina's McCain tried to sell "The illegals are never going home, the jobs are never coming back; and we'll be in Iraq for 100 years;" and was unable to close the deal with Main Street. TrueCuckservative thinks Main Street will be more receptive in 2016; just need to change the packaging; but it't the same worthless crap they want to peddle. It's not the packaging; it's what's inside the package that sucks.
I want to point out that it wasn't a debate that FOX sponsored a couple of nights ago. It was a circus filled with klouwns.
Got some cash, sailor? Do you honestly think you're engaging in a conversation when you say things like that? Maybe you should consider medication to deal with your rage issues.
Fiorina wasn't even a marginal player in 2008. She was a major Romney surrogate in 2012. I've never voted for the Stain. Can you say the same? And I'd never vote for Trump either, for many of the same reasons. BTW, I didn't have anything to vote for in 2014 so I stayed home. I have stayed home or voted third party a number of times when I can't stand the GOP nominee, as with Dumbya in 2004. It slays me that you guys seem to think I'm on a Republican state committee or something. But then you seem to need to believe that you are "speakin' Truth to Power" on this dusty little forum or some such idiotic drivel.
There's no excuse for Fiorina to be a presidential candidate.
Maybe you should consider medication to deal with your rage issues. I'm not interested in conversation with you on this topic. You're not to bright. I'd rather insult you and call you names. Because you shill for GOPe.
The point is the tax increase under Clinton did not send the economy into recession as prophesied.
Lib, you.re usually on target. but this time you are dead wrong. No! In this case he's absolutely correct.
So "marginal" that she was fundraising chair for the RNC "Victory" initiative. That "victory" turned out about as well as her tenure at HP. She may be just the ticket for the GOP based on her track record as a proven loser; she epitomizes the values of the RNC.
You should try using Carly Fiorina to make your point. Jorge Arbusto gave here a big tax cut; and she wiped out 30,000 American jobs. She tanked HP; and walked away with a 21 million dollar severance package!
And he does not even have the honesty to admit. Most of his history is just posturing; because he knows the BS he's peddling isn't too popular on Main Street. Check out what his trade policies have done to your own state. His economic prescriptions are like drinking anti-freeze; he needs to be dishonest and package it as wine because it will not sell when sold truthfully for what it is.
If he does, I'm with him. If he doesn't, then the GOP will get the benefit of my vote for Trump.
Where's she been all this time? Taking additional acting lessons. She's starting out her new acting talents with a new script in a role that offers her the opportunity to portray herself as president.
Carly Fiorina was a crappy CEO. If she failed at running a company, she's certainly not going to do better running a country. We've had a warning already about incompetent businessmen running things. W Bush was an incompetent businessman.
I just read a few minutes ago that you liked her.
Hey, I get called a DEMOCRAT all the time! Which isn't true. Also, a "socialist". Which also is not true. Socialists believe in state ownership of the primary means of production. I believe that the state should operate a robust social insurance program, and pay for that through taxation of the private economy, which produces its wealth through the private ownership of the means of the production (though I do think that the federal government should directly exploit the resources on federal land, and that actually would be socialism, as far as it went. But I don't think that the federal government should nationalize land in order to exploit the resources beneath it.
Yes you did. It wore off fast. I saw her debate performance and her spanking of Chrissy Matthews. I liked what I saw. So I said so. But then I saw her overnight stupidity, piling on Donald Trump to defend Megan Kelley. Nope. Fiorina was an incompetent CEO, and now she's decided to pick the wrong side in a fight that I care about. Therefore she is garbage to me. She coulda been a contender, but she took the wrong side and I no longer give politicians the benefit of the doubt. Especially when they attack somebody I like. She's a whiny bitch. We don't need a whiny bitch in the White House, especially one with her record of screwing Americans out of jobs. She is political roadkill.
I campaigned for him in 2000. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him by 2008, so I voted for Palin.
Reasonable. You must have missed her reaction when Trump announced. I'm like you in a way. If they attack Trump they are dead to me politically. At At least they way they are doing it now.
I hope it's a sensitive microphone, then, so we can all hear the crickets. Except that even if it is, we won't be hearing the crickets, because nobody is going to watch or pay attention. Trump was interesting. You've invited a bunch of boring, useless politicians, and a whiny cunt. Nobody cares about them or you, Erickson. You've jumped the shark.
HP tossed her out. The stock took a big jump when she got the boot, just the news she was leaving did that. The US should take a pass on her "talents." Of course her proven track record as a loser is something the RNC establishment types can embrace.
Erick Erickson fits in with the proven RNC track record of losing; even when they win! The RNC is not about defeating the democrats; they are all about protecting the ruling class oligarchy.
For damned good reason! Since then she has attempted to found a new career in politics based on her touting her reputation as having been a CEO under the supposition nobody would look very closely. She started out as a secretary pounding a typewriter and answering phones then slicked her way upward. HP needs to return to having research engineers as Hewlett and Packard were to run the company who could "walk the halls" instead of empty headed goofs with spicy aggressive personality.
The counter point is that is because the GOP Congress did not allow him to raise the taxes higher and expand government spending. Taking more money from people does not fuel an economy; unless one thinks the Fed gov is a creator of economic growth. Increasing taxes puts more of the circulated wealth in the pocket of government. Unless that money is spent on military equipment and also infrastructure it is producing nothing towards GDP. Even Obama's "shovel ready" projects did nothing to restart the economy. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Taking more money from people does not fuel an economy; unless one thinks the Fed gov is a creator of economic growth. Increasing taxes puts more of the circulated wealth in the pocket of government. Unless that money is spent on military equipment and also infrastructure it is producing nothing towards GDP. Even Obama's "shovel ready" projects did nothing to restart the economy. That is bullshit and all over the place. Not only did you get your facts wrong about GDP and when the tax cut happened vs the contract with America - contract which was bullshit per the CATO institute no less. The GOP said those exact tax increases - they did not reduce a higher increase in negotiations - would tank the economy and that did not happen. How long are you going to believe the fairy tale that taxes affect the economy?
When he was an exec with the Texas Rangers he traded Sammy Sosa in his prime. Warning sign right there:) Actually, I think we are due for a retired Flag/General Officer for president. Most know how futile these indecisive wars truly are and know how to run larger organizations and tell people what to do. I would support Raymond Odierno if he ran. Would have to check his position on abortion but probably know where he stands on that as he is Catholic. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
So's Pelosi. Being Catholic doesn't mean anything.
“This was more of an inquisition than it was a debate,” Graham said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Friday morning. “It was a missed opportunity to talk about things that really mattered.” Graham charged that debate moderators Bret Baier, Chris Wallace and Megyn Kelly were particularly unfair in their questioning of Trump, the outspoken billionaire who is leading many GOP polls. “At the end of the day, ask the man a question that explains his position and his solutions rather than a ten-minute question that describes him as the biggest bastard on the planet,” Graham quipped.
The GOP said those exact tax increases - they did not reduce a higher increase in negotiations - would tank the economy and that did not happen. How long are you going to believe the fairy tale that taxes affect the economy? Then explain to me in economic terms how a tax increase fueled an increase in GDP and the associated monetary policy? There are two reasons governments raise taxes. First is so they can spend more money; second to stave off inflation. Inflation was not a problem in 93. Then look at how budgets are submitted in our government. Clinton was inaugurated in January 93. He submitted a budget in March for the next fiscal year 94. None of his policies went into effect until the later quarters of 94. Any GDP growth in 93 and the early quarters of 94 were from the previous administration. POM years are two year programs; FYDP goes out to 5 years. The POM for 93 starts in the new fiscal year of 94 which starts in October of 93. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Odierno don't see him being in the radical Pelosi camp. But you are right would have to know for sure. I never asked him when I worked for him.
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Compounded by Obolo disengaging in the region thus creating a huge vacuum. It could have been done more responsibly and still meet his campaign promises. All he had to do was listen to his generals. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
What did you expect after electing a mindless spoiled infantile country club fop as president?
I already told you there is NO correlation between the tax rates - especially on the rich - and the economy. So raising taxes on the rich, or lowering them, would not in any way affect economic growth up or down.
Sure you did. Like you were hoping for an election to go to the House/Senate and Palin would end up VP to Obama. Or that Stain would quickly die after becoming prez.
It's nonsense. Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him. No one can seriously think that Trump was going to get the nomination without libmedia going after him tooth and nail on his three divorces, his history of outrageous remarks, his four bankruptcies (including some outright swindles of middle class home buyers).
Interesting that it comes from Graham. Knowing that he saw it means that a lot of others are going to feel that way too.
Sounds like No financials, no FEC, McCain comments sunk him, etc. Yep Trump has no campaign because some guy got fired. Do you really believe the nonsense you spout? Because it is almost always wrong when it is political.
We'll see how long Trump lasts. We've had exactly one debate. Like most diehard supporters of a frontrunner in a primary campaign, you mostly want to declare the race is over and that your candidate is the nominee long before unreliable Iowa has held its corrupt and largely phony caucuses. And after Trump flames out, we'll all get the same line of "inevitability" from the Bush camp. In fact, Trump's presence in the race is helping Bush to secure the nomination and keeping alternatives to Bush from getting money and campaign attention. The Trumpsters of 2015 are no more convincing than the Cainiacs or the Gin-grinches of 2011. And the result will be the same. Enjoy it while it lasts. Which won't be much longer because you have a lousy and undisciplined candidate that likes to shoot his mouth off and who has no real staff that have ever run a successful state campaign, let alone have any experience in a national campaign (not even a losing national campaign). People always say they're sick of politicians and want someone else. And yet, given the choice, they almost always pick the smoothest professional politician. There are rare exceptions, like Berlusconi of Italy (who may evenutally return to power after conviction for tax fraud and an underage sex scandal). Hard to find any other examples where some outsider tycoon has won an election in a major country. Berlusconi has an advantage in that Italy is so grossly corrupt and mismanaged, even more obviously to voters than America suffers from its own pols.
blah blah blah. I don't care about the other candidates. Here is a list of asshole candidates Bush, The Fiorian bitch, Christie, Rubio, Perry, Graham, Rand Paul Here are ok candidates that don't have a chance Jindal, Carson, Here is a candidate that I am unsure of. Scott Walker. But I'm kind of skeptica skeptical about him. Here are the good candidates. Ted Cruz, Donald Trump. As you can see it was going to be Bush. Now it is Bush or Trump. You can have Trump or Hillary. Take your pick. Because most Republicans hate Bu Bush. That is why he is at like 12 percent. Trump can win two ways. As the Republican nominee or third party. I'd prefer he win the R nomination as that would knock out anyone else from the R nomination.
You've cried wolf to many times to be taken seriously.
I'm patient. Teh Donald already has (or soon will) pull the pin and then jump on his own grenade. It is his nature.
Here is why I say you are clueless. You don't understand how pissed people are at the government. Trump voters aren't going to abandon him. Do you not unders understand that? There may be a few that do a tiny sliver, very tiny. Once you understand that you might make better predictions about the future. It really is that simple. I like him. I like his F U attitude towards as assholes. So again the lesson is. Trump supporters aren't going to abandon him. No ma matter what. Megan Kelly and Eric Ericson are damaged goods now. Their expiration date is coming up real soon.
Trump is an arrogant snob. He would otherwise be cleaning latrines in some business sector building if it wasn't for his daddy.
He did have a good father. Who taught him well. So well that he surpassed his father father. I guess you support the government taking away the inheritance that fathers work for for to pass on to their family. You're kind of like Karl Marx. You really don't have a clue or any solutions. You just whine a lot.
Voter tantrums rarely win national elections, though they may lead to changes in legislators, like the Tea party victories here in America or the rise of parties on the Right in the EU. You overestimate the voting power of anger.
Trump's father was one of the biggest slumlords in NYC. As a major real estate mogul, he wielded substantial political power as well. After Donald graduated from Wharton, his father gave him a rundown slum property in the Midwest and the financing to remodel it and make it a success. That was how Donald started out. He did gravitate toward casinos and luxury properties, now with big country clubs as part of a package deal. In other words, his real customers and associates are the 1%ers. I doubt Trump has ever spent any time with anyone who isn't at least a millionaire. People like him arrange their schedules and affairs so they never meet or have any contact with their landscapers and the people who clean their houses. Trump is in the top 1% of the 1%, going by his own claims. That you try to portray him as some humble man of the people would be laughable if it weren't so pathetic.
You are parroting clueless assholes. Being in the rental business is a legitimate business. There is nothing wrong with with providing housing for low income families. Since you know so much about his father. Tell me about 5 of the houses he rented out. Tell me for how much and I want pictures of the houses and the insides. Otherwise you are just lying again.
Your assumptions lead to rhetorical rotmouth. You should learn not to make strawman, red-herrings because it makes you look like a loser in any discussion. Effectively, everyone sees you stumbling over yourself on the dance floor while you see yourself in a mirror thinking you are doing swell.
Who cares what you doubt. Tell us what you know.
It wasn't an assumption. You criticized that Trumps father left him an inheritance. You're like Karl Marx on that one.
Hooey. Frederick Christ Trump owned 27,000 properties in NYC. Other than a handful of respectable flagship properties, these were overwhelmingly in low-income areas and were neglected properties. He was a slumlord in NYC back in the years when NYC teetered on bankruptcy, suffering high crime.
Obviously, you do care.
I indicated that Trump's arrogance is based on his daddy's money, not his. He would be cleaning latrines, calling himself a facilities engineer or some other highfalutin' title, with or without his daddy's money. It has little to do with "inheritance." The punk is not presidential material; he is good for a laff though. I hope he makes it BIG on Saturday Night Live.
No he is to smart for that. So you think people who don't inherit money are destined to clean latrines. You so sound like Kelly Osbourne. Why didn't they prosecute you for defrauding the government? Didn't your associates go to prison?
So you can't document you can only parrot. You should have nolu chan give you some advice on how to document your claims.
Trump has no FUCKIN' values to change the course of American failure which has been clearly demonstrated for at least 25 years. All he can influence are "silly little wipers of other people' bottoms," to quote Monty Python.
I'm surprised that so many lower middle class folks fall for his PT Barnum act; Stone included.
Let me ask you a serious question, Fred. Did you see anyone on that stage or any political stage that captures the idea of "leadership" that can mend this broken nation?
Unfortunately, no. A handful might fill the role of figure head, but not a true leader IMO.
EXACTLY! The nation has lost vision about its own leadership to drive the nation. Why? As an opinion because America is on a downward spiral of neglect not just by so-called leaders and potential leaders BECAUSE we are not leading ourselves as was envisioned by the founders of this nation. The nation was built upon individual determinism; not washed down high-lighted hair by a Trump or ruby red lipstick by a Kelly. The nation's electoral process is a mess because just about any tom, dick or harry can pretend to be a leader in this political atmosphere but the people don't even know what a leader is is ... so how can they vote for a true leader? The place is FUCKED UPPED.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump Donald Trump [excerpt - citations omitted] In 1971, Trump moved to Manhattan and became involved in larger building projects and used attractive architectural design to win public recognition. He made plans to acquire and develop the old Penn Central for $60 million with no money down. Later, with the help of a 40-year tax abatement from the New York City government, he turned the bankrupt Commodore Hotel into the Grand Hyatt and created The Trump Organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump Fred Trump [excerpt - citations omitted] In the late 1920s, Trump began building single-family houses in Queens, which were sold for $3,990 each. By the mid-1930s in the middle of the Great Depression, he helped pioneer the concept of supermarkets with the Trump Market in Woodhaven, which advertised "Serve Yourself and Save!", becoming an instant hit. After only a year Trump sold it for a tidy profit to the King Kullen supermarket chain. During World War II, Trump built barracks and garden apartments for U.S. Navy personnel near major shipyards along the East Coast, including Chester, Pennsylvania, Newport News, Virginia, and Norfolk, Virginia. After the war he expanded into middle-income housing for the families of returning veterans, building Shore Haven in Bensonhurst in 1949, and Beach Haven near Coney Island in 1950 (a total of 2,700 apartments). In 1963 he built the 3,800-apartment Trump Village in Coney Island, competing with Lefrak City in Queens. Trump went on to build and operate affordable rental housing via large apartment complexes in New York City, including more than 27,000 low-income multifamily apartments and row houses in the neighborhoods of Coney Island, Bensonhurst, Sheepshead Bay, Flatbush, and Brighton Beach in Brooklyn, and Flushing and Jamaica Estates in Queens. In 1968 his 22-year-old son Donald Trump joined his company Trump Management Co., becoming president in 1974, and renaming it The Trump Organization in 1980. In the mid-1970s he lent his son money, allowing him to go into the real estate business in Manhattan, while he stuck to Brooklyn and Queens. "It was good for me," he later commented. "You know, being the son of somebody, it could have been competition to me. This way, I got Manhattan all to myself." Although a self-made millionaire, Trump was known for his frugality, saving unused nails, doing his own extermination work and mixing his own floor cleaners. Nevertheless, he insisted on buying a new Navy Cadillac every three years, with license plate "FCT". By the time of his death, Trump was estimated to have amassed a fortune worth $250 to $300 million.
Taking additional acting lessons. She's starting out her new acting talents with a new script in a role that offers her the opportunity to portray herself as president. Exactly. Carly Fiorina is ACTING. GOPe's Hollywood Central called her in for a total "Make-Over." All she had to do they presumed was attend GOPe finishing-school to address her former looks, script, and role. I don't even doubt that her PTB-GOPe handlers believe they've found their new "star." She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly. Ergo Fiorina's feminist bonafides were reinforced and established in this fake "war against women." Best of all -- now (phew!!) the GOP has a woman in their race, proving that it's not the establishment Republicans that hate women -- only the kooky, newbie conservative wing.
You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test. We'll see how that works out for you. Trump has lost all his media contracts and his Trump ties deal with Macy's and other connections he had developed over the years. He probably feels he has nothing left to lose now. I haven't found out if Kelly took Trump's spot at RSG (which I doubted) or who they did get to make the big Saturday evening keynote address for them after they disinvited Trump.
Is THAT the new meme already? Suddenly ALL those who support and will support President Trump will now fret and abandon him? OH MY!! Trump is in trouble!! His campaign is in tatters and dysfunctional, unable to carry on in a forceful way!! Lol -- seriously... Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants and be even MORE dangerous to the GOPe cartel. If there's anything you can be sure Donald Trump does MUCH better than any one else out in this field, it's creating a focused, winning team. This is a man whose reputation and honor is on the line. With no sugar daddies to worry about, no lobbyist whores to pay, no political feelings and "good friends on the other side of the aisle" to hurt, the GOPe has good reason to fear him. He'll go for the throat -- unlike ANY one else in the field. The propagandist media -- in the employ of BOTH the Dems AND GOPe will have to works twice as hard to demonize him and dismiss his creds. Gonna be a bloody campaign.
At this stage, no one can rationally deny that Trump not only has a campaign, he is leading by double digits, and the GOPe candidates are all in single digits. http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41244 Scientific Poll, NBC/Survey Monkey, August 7-8, ± 3.4% Trump 23%, Cruz 13%, Carson 11%, Fiorina 8%, Rubio 8% Bush, Walker, Paul, Huckabee, Kasich, Perry, Christie, and all others trail behind that top five.
"Trumpsters"?? LOL You've got it backwards; The media and Megyn Kelly have been exposed as being shills for the Establishment Republican cartel, AND having TRIED to play the public for fools. It is THEY who have failed a litmus test of credibility. Trump has lost all his media contracts and his Trump ties deal with Macy's and other connections he had developed over the years. He probably feels he has nothing left to lose now. Macy's? One more dead and dying brick and mortar corpse. Down and out and going for broke? Trump?? DOES he really feel as if he's got nothing left to lose?? Chyeah -- I could see that. After all his assets are only around $10 billion. And everyone has abandoned him. Oh wait -- you're...serious?? Oh, ok. MEMO: The dynamo Donald Trump is his own "media." His own brand. He's STILL kicking azz in the polls. People not normally interested in politics now ARE. Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million. With Trump's contacts, assets, and friend (no, not EVERYONE underestimates or opposes Donald Trump for the fake "War on Women" meme) he will remain VERY much alive and THE main talk about town. Bummer, eh? I haven't found out if Kelly took Trump's spot at RSG (which I doubted) or who they did get to make the big Saturday evening keynote address for them after they disinvited Trump. Kelly is in a LOSE-LOSE situation whether she shows up or doesn't. Her rep is dashed and smashed. She played personal, and she played whore to the GOPe. RSG and Erickson are also in LOSE-LOSE position; They look petty, cowardly, vindictive, and spiteful -- just like Megyn Kelly. Just like the GOPe. The damage to the cred of these parties can not be undone. Proven to most people who've followed this ongoing joke is that the media and political parties (the GOPe) are dishonest brokers of the truth while also proving without any doubt that they COLLUDE and CONSPIRE to sabotage certain candidates. And NOW the serfs know.
Scientific Poll, NBC/Survey Monkey, August 7-8, ± 3.4% Trump 23%, Cruz 13%, Carson 11%, Fiorina 8%, Rubio 8% Ooops. And notably, Cruz is #2...while Carly (Hollywood FX) Fiorina has risen to 8%. Jeb? Trying to climb out of a crypt. :-(
The People's Democratic Republic of California. In comparison to other Republicans in California, her Senate election result was not all that bad. There are few Republican success stories in California. Carly Fiorina won the GPO Sentate primary in 2010 and ran against incumbent Barbara Boxer in 2010, gaining 42% of the vote, Boxer 52%. Fiorina got 4.2M votes in a midterm election for senate. In 2012, Romney got 37% of the vote in California. Romney got 4.8M votes in a presidential election. In 2008, McCain got 37% of the vote in California. McCain got 5M in a presidential election. In 1984, Reagan drew 5.4M in California. (Mondale 3.9M) In 1988, G.H.W. Bush drew 5M in California. (Dukakis 4.7M) In 1992, G.H.W. Bush drew 3.6M in California. (Clinton 5.1M) In 1996, Bob Dole drew 3.8M in California.(Clinton 5.1M) In 2000, W drew 4.6M in California. (Gore 5.9M) In 2004, W drew 5.5M in California. (John Kerry 6.7M) In 2006, Arnold won 4.8M in California for governor (Phil Angelides 3.3M)
Well, he does have that 10B in assets and Melania, and he is crushing in the polls.
It appears that once again, predictions of his political death have been premature. It is not just that Trump is in first, but Cruz and Carson are in second and third, and they are the only ones in double figures. The people are giving the middle finger to the GOPe. Freezing The Donald out on Saturday should give him another few points.
It is not just that Trump is in first, but Cruz and Carson are in second and third, and they are the only ones in double figures. The people are giving the middle finger to the GOPe. Freezing The Donald out on Saturday should give him another few points. Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan. That was a silly comment. The nation tightens the political field just a day before an election not a year and half before an election. Polls don't determine the mood of the people. People deermine the mood of the polls and as a result you can't make a meaningful estimate of any results about a "poll" other than some exilerating thrill, like "a tingling down your leg" comment.
Nah, she passed her audition months ago when she went after Hillary. She is the GOPe designated hitter because she can do it without the party being labeled as sexist. She would be a good fit for the GOPe ticket's VP attack dog slot.
You are in the wrong election cycle. This is the cycle for the primary elections.
OK, Lindsey Graham and et. al., is a cycle of power today and Über Alles!
Yeah, Survey Monkey sounds like a real top outfit. ‹/sarcasm› I also recall the complete failure of polling in both the British and Israeli elections in the last year. We really should not take polls at face value. Even Nate Silver is admitting there are fundamental problems with measuring public opinion in modern polling. Including the obvious fact that people deliberately lie to pollsters sometimes (but not all the time). Maddening.
If the nominee is Kasich, she'd be a good pick. Or Rubio to help in FL. If the nominee was Walker, Kasich to bring OH or Rubio to court FL. She has a chance at the VP nod if they think her role as attack dog on Hillary! is more valuable in key states than Kasich bringing OH or Rubio bringing FL would be. I kinda assume the nominee will be either Bush or Walker. So you start looking at needing to bring along key states because of the electoral map advantage that the Dims have had with Obama (240+ EC votes, at least 40 more than the GOP).
MEMO: The dynamo Donald Trump is his own "media." His own brand. He's STILL kicking azz in the polls. People not normally interested in politics now ARE. Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million. Forbes says an honest assessment is more like half of that, about $5 billion. And his liquid assets appear in the range of $300M. Other reporting is to take Trump's 10 billion, cut it in half, then cut in quarters; IOW more like 1.2-2 billion. But that is if he actually liquidated his holdings. And any liquidation would likely drive down the value of his other assets. Any selloff of a major fortune or even large holdings of valuable stocks works this way when you liquidate them in a short time frame. I think Forbes probably has it about right. He made $5 billion in assets after 4 bankruptcies. Even the 5pm debate of the GOP junior varsity drew 6 million, I read. So the main event, with or without Trump, would have drawn double that, considering the high level of interest in the GOP primaries. Even Obama encouraged Dems to watch it. I saw Trump trying to pretend to CNN's Tapper today that they wouldn't have gotten 2 million without him. What an arrogant blowhard.
Yeah, just like Giuliani and Hitlery were back in 2007. And do you recall the Second Coming of Fred Thompson, our Lord and savior, also in 2007? Bet he wishes he had his L&O gig back. Trump doesn't have the nomination yet. In fact, there is considerable history of the big early frontrunner totally imploding or losing to somebody that no one expected to get anywhere close to the nomination. It's how the voters seem to punish their early favorite. It slays me that Trump gets to 26% in a few wacky polls and his supporters think it's time to just give him the nomination by acclaim. It's creepy, like the Hitlery supporters in the Dim party.
Ok,you are a Trump fan. We get it. As The Donald so modestly says,those of us who disagree with his pompous proclamations are "losers". A title I proudly wear when bestowed by that gasbag Dim. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
We'll see how that works out for you. Not going to wear well when The Donald sees he can't win,so he bows out of the race "because they are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers",and then throws his support behind the Dim candidate. Seems to me like lot of people are going to have lots of trouble looking into the mirror the morning after that happens. Face it,this shithead is Perot without the charm,intelligence,and business experience. He is nothing but a typical spoiled and pampered NYC trust fund denizen that inherited over $200 million in cash as well as 15,000 rental properties in NYC,and thinks that makes him smart and a "winner". Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
PRESIDENT Trump?????? Did I miss the election? Let me ask you this,do you REALLY think a power mad control freak like Trump will turn all his business dealings over to be managed by a blind trust for 4 years if he is elected? If your honest answer is an unreserved "Yes",it is a waste of time to try to talk reason with you. Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants ... Who will by be definition,since he is the smartest man in the world according to him,consultants that just happen to agree with him. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Very astute question petey. I hadn't thought of that.
He could start with a new coiffure sylist.
Not really. A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion. Nothing to sneeze at for sure,but Trump is the only one claiming 10 billion,and he does that by tricks like claiming his name alone (Brand/Trademark) is worth $4 billion. The Donald can't move his lips without lying. He is such a narcissist that he makes Bill Clinton look shy and modest by comparison. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Why is this a surprise to anyone? Polling companies are like any other companies in business. They want to remain in business and profit,and the way to do this is to please the people that hire them by telling them what they want to hear. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
That's assuming the Dims don't find a subtle way of knocking Bubbette! out of the race before the primaries. They MIGHT go with Biden because they proved with Goober Gore that a candidate that is an actual idiot doesn't bother them,but I suspect they are looking for somebody smarter than a tomato plant,but that can still be trusted. I honestly can't even guess who it would be at this point,but it seems pretty clear to me the movers and shakers in the Dim Party want to dump Bubbette! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It's possible. But he has an insatiable need for public validation of him as a great man. He is more emotionally needy than most puppies. It could just be that his personality is driven to do this, now, finally, before it's too late. He's already pretty old so this is his last chance to make some big public splash.
I admire his hair.
ROTFL
He acts a lot lot like Yukon; spamming the same kind of crap. It must have been easy for him to guess Yukon's password since they have such similar patterns of thought.
Have you ever noticed that every one of the rabid Trump supporters always mention the "he's worth $10 Billion!" mantra,just like it means something valuable? If anything it means the reverse because unlike Perot who earned his way to the Billionaire neighborhood,Trump was a shelted and protected trust fund child from multi-millionaire familIes in NYC and has never accomplished anything on his own in his entire life. He inherited over $200 million back in a time when that would probably be worth the equivalent of $2 billion today,plus 15,000 pieces of rental property in NYC. He not only doesn't know anything about the lives of the working lower classes or the managing middle classes,he doesn't even care about them because they are "losers" that weren't smart enough to inherit mega-wealth like him. In his entire life all he has accomplished is buying existing companies,putting his name on them,and then driving them into bankruptcy while skipping away with the investors money. He has not created one single job other than in tax accounting. All he has done is destroy companines,life savings,and end jobs for the working class. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The INSTANT he begins to suspect he's not going to win the nomination he is going to drop out and claim he is quitting because "The Republicans are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers." He is a spoiled child in an adult's body. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Thanks. It's the first thing I thought of because it is who he is. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He has built some but not terribly successfully. He's bet big, lost big and, due to bankruptcy laws, managed to accumulate billions from a decent fortune he inherited. Like Romney, Trump was born on third base and hit a home run. But Romney never went bankrupt or anywhere close to it. I had reservations about Romney but, financially, he was pretty responsible. Especially compared to a Trump.
He could start with a new coiffure sylist. Not going to happen. This is "The Donald" you are speaking of. His massive ego tells him that people make fun of his hair because they are jealous of it because it is the perfect style and only "losers" wouldn't want to have hair like that if they could. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
A whore for JEB like you has business preaching about someone else ancestors. JEB's bankster grandfather helped to finance the Nazi party. This was the kind of housing that resulted.
What will happen when he realizes he won't win any primaries and will be humiliated. At that point it will be "Screw you guys, I'm going home". Or to pull a Perot for his own petty vengeance (or to cut sweet deals with Xlinton allies in NYC). Recall Warren Buffet and how his public pleas to "please raise my income taxes that I never pay and will never pay" and suddenly Buffet's BN railway has another decade of transcontinental oil transport contracts with no competition from some nasty Keystone Pipeline. Very lucrative for old Warren.
No doubt about you being right about all that,and I took all that into consideration and balanced it against his fear of public failure and humiliation for failing,and don't think there is a chance of him risking that embarrassment. Don't forget,his who sense of self is built around the illusion of success,intelligence,and always winning. Being a "winner" is as important to him as oxygen. He's going to bail the very instant it looks like he's not going to win or the public start to turn on him because the one thing he can't stand is to be thought of as a loser. "Losers" are other people,people who disagree with him because HE is ALWAYS a "winner". He's more insecure than the typical 13 year old girl. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He was more of a war profiteer type like Joe Kennedy than a banker lending money to German interests. Few people would suggest that Bush financed death camps in Germany.
His need for validation is almost pathological. In part, he is self-promoting but it's much more than that. He wants to feel the nation loves him personally, as a human being. He craves it.
Winds are not kind to Donald's very fine hair. It's kind of rare but a small number of people have light flyaway hair even into old age. Donald compensates by using more hairspray than most drag queens go through in a month. And it doesn't always work.
Thanks for doing the dirty work again, Chan -- research. Good stuff. Trump's dad was quite the entrepreneur. His was also the type background that a son could look back on with pride of and for his family. That translates into an appreciation of America at its middle class roots:
A bit different than how Hitlery's fortune was made; OR, the Kenyan in Chief. Or the Bushes. OR the entire elite political class.
You are either making an honest mistake,or you are lying. Prescott Bush Sr worked for the Harriman Bank,and got the job because he married into the Harriman family. The Harrimans basically ran the US State Dept right up to WW-2,and seemed to be immune to arrest for anything they did,including treason. What happened was some very senior Nazi's asked their goobmas,the Harrimans,to launder and invest money for them so they would have big nest eggs if Nazi Germany lost the war. The Harrimans agreed,and assigned the job to Prescott,who was nowhere near a management position at the time. Not that this makes Prescott an innocent being ordered to so something against his will or without his knowledge. He was a evil scum-sucking bastard just like all his sons and grandsons. Prescott fell on his sword for the Harrimans when it was revealed they had been laundering money for the Nazi's during WW-2,and AFAICT,he got a slap on the wrist for it. Even the JDL gave him a pass. Despite the very real conviction,it didn't keep him from being elected to the US Senate in 1952. Money talks,and people walk. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yup. The same thing for Gubbermint mandated Health Insurance that is "affordable". Both Buffett AND Soror are chief financial advisers to Obomber,and both own insurance companines. We all know that if there is one thing Billionaires LOVE it's losing money,right? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yup, Fiorina's numbers in Kalifornia were "respectable." Didn't hurt that she's a Global Warmist. And formerly(?) Pro-Choice (and may still be for all we know.)
ROFLMAO! Yup! If there is one thing slum lords love as much as money,it's middle-class Americans! Good one! Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
According to the cynics, Trump's asset are over-inflated, and so too are the polls which reflect the Donald destroying the field. (But...but....it CAN'T BE!! It's....it's a Hallucination!! The Donald is MEAN! And not even a "real" fake Republican!!) Trump's detractor crack me up.
No,identical. It was all made from making deals with the government for tax breaks and low or no interest loans. You even point that out yourself in the quote. Why can't you see this? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'm detecting a smidgeon of CLASS ENVY. Actually a whole lot of petty jealousy. Deal with Trump's success. Hey -- we can't help who our daddy is. Why, Trump's Poppy *could* have built Planned Parenthood. Or illegally run liquor during the depression. Or collaborated with the Nazis. The Trumps have built middle class digs. What has your choice for Amerikan Dictator built?
No,you're not,but I do understand you think you are because otherwise you would have to face the truth. What has your choice for Amerikan Dictator built? I don't know. Why don't you tell me who my choice is,since I don't know that,either? I DO know who my choice ISN'T,and it's the arrogant freak you support. WHY are you so impressed with his money? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Why can't you see this? Because I'm obvious not shorting, sniffing, popping, guzzling whatever *you're* on. Seriously -- are you able to READ Trump's bio?? If you actually believe what Trump has accomplished to earn their fortune is NO different than Hitlery, the Kenyan in Chief, or Bushes, then you'd better switch psychiatrists. Your sense of reality is shot.
Seriously -- are you able to READ Trump's bio?? Yes. I can even understand it. The family wealth came from sweetheart deals with politicians and payoffs to them and building inspectors. Or maybe you think NYC gives 40 YEAR tax exemptions to everyone building rental housing? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It is not just that Trump is in first, but Cruz and Carson are in second and third, and they are the only ones in double figures. The people are giving the middle finger to the GOPe. Freezing The Donald out on Saturday should give him another few points. Yep, exactly. The Top Three represent giving the Finger to business/politics as usual, and complete rejection of the usual fake choices. The jig is up. Trump will be declared "dead and buried" two years into his Presidency. After the RSG confab, Trump will wind up tacking on a few points. Of further note of the GOP Leaderboard: Trump: Businessman Funny coincidence how both Carson and Trump are NOT invited to RSG confab. I mean after all -- they're NOT "politicians." How can they possibly run the d*mn country into the ground without those "credentials"?? HA!
YOU claimed the means to Trump's wealth was "identical" to the aforementioned thieves. No matter WHAT you believe, the Trumps BUILT stuff. That mean they EARNED at minimum SOME of their wealth (as opposed to the others, who "earned" ZERO wealth.) Still standing by your original statement?
They do if you're at the BOTTOM. And as a matter of fact, poll numbers were the criteria used for participation in the main debate.
Sadly and pathetically, you're probably right. THIS is how sick the current PC Rules are. ONLY a female/black/gay can verbally criticize other similar demographics. So...Fiorina's main qualifications as VP: Female Attack Dog. How appropriate.
I wouldn't vote for ONE or any of those Klouwns that have appeared (or selected) in some "debate" (actually a circus), unlike some around this teenie-weenie wittle chit chat forum. You are being given hogwash and you are eating every morsel you can suck up.
Trump doesn't make the rules. But it sure would be a whole different story were Jeb at the top of the GOP Leaderboard, wouldn't it? I also recall the complete failure of polling in both the British and Israeli elections in the last year. We really should not take polls at face value. Even Nate Silver is admitting there are fundamental problems with measuring public opinion in modern polling. Including the obvious fact that people deliberately lie to pollsters sometimes (but not all the time). Maddening. Personally, I also believe Polls are too prone to manipulation. But whatever the numbers at the moment, SOMETHING is up. But don't worry -- the polsters will become hijacked/bribed/blackmailed as is usually the eventual case. *Eventually* Jeb will suddenly be leading, then President. And then "NO MONKEY BUSINESS!" can be claimed.
Yor forgot the biggest qualification: A former CEO who had to be fired because she was running the company into the ground.
If you don't vote, Buck, it will only matter to you. What's giving many hope (for the time being) is that a non-politician MIGHT steal the Presidency from the elites. Whatssa mattah -- don't believe that would make any difference? You'd better believe I'm not the only one who'd slurp up that possibility up with a fork and spoon.
An AA CEO no less... And suddenly she's invaluable as a VP to the GOP? It's insane.
Ok -- at least Walker has some legit creds. Bush?? What are his creds and current winning positions again?
Slice and dice it up anyway you want -- the equation doesn't change. Trump CAN finance his own campaign without bending over as a two-bit whore for China, the Saudis, or Commie Inc.
What does the idiot stand for? I really don't know what the punk stands for; he changes his opinions every other day.
He likes anti-American skanks; like that skank in Paris.
Is your old monicker: Marguerite?
What hss "The Donald" built? Not his grandfather that left him a $12 trust fund when he turned 21,or his father that left him $200 million in CASH plus 15,000 NYC rental properties,but "The Donald" himself? Still standing by your original statement? Why wouldn't I? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He IS one of the elites! Hell,he brags about ORDERING Bubbette! to his most recent wedding. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
My wife likes his casinos; my billfold is solid proof.
And she is STILL more qualified to hold public office than the lunatic you support. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He stands for Trump. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You mean Trump doesn't stand for us wee little people? What politician does?
My wife likes his casinos; my billfold is solid proof. I bet your wife ain't gambling there tonight. Like everything else he has touched,it failed and went into bankruptcy. So far the only thing I can think of that he has been successful at is running a teebee reality show,and he isn't even really doing that. He just gets a cut for showing up and for letting them use his name. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Nope. He doesn't even stand for the big rich people. He only stands for himself. What politician does? Damn few today,but there are some. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Pete - please temper your hostility a weebit for theDonald. He shows up because his hairdo is magnificant; he is almost a GOD in his own sake for the amazing coiffure that no one else can immitate.
Of course. That's how they became tycoons.
Bush?? What are his creds and current winning positions again? Brand name and the current godfather of the Bush crime family. He'll make you an offer you can't refuse. : )
The 2012 election was just under a billion for Romney (including nomination battle) while Obama spent over a billion. This election will cost more, probably much more (assuming the market doesn't crash before the election as in 2008). And the market is creaking and groaning a lot like 2008. Even Trump with virtual universal name recognition will have to do some major spending. Have you donated to Teh Donald yet? Contrary to his claim to self-fund entirely, he is taking donations.
That's true,and I am sure he has a half-dozen or more people hired to remind of that several times a day. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He doesn't need them.
The candidates really must explain that to the prospective donors.
That sounds like Gatlin.
If the nominee was Walker, Kasich to bring OH or Rubio to court FL. If the GOPe puts someone at the top of the ticket who is not clearly committed to doing something about illegal immigrants, the GOP will lose. The last time the base was this fed up was in 1992 when Ross Perot ran third party and collected nearly 20 million votes. I still doubt Hillary will be the Dem nominee.
And the magazine's guess would be better than Trump's... why?
Well,who can blame him for thinking that when all the hot eastern European women he hires to marry him keep telling him how good-looking he is? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Me,too. I'm not so sure she knows this yet,though. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
ICYMI, Prescott's father Samuel Bush, Jeb's grandpappy, served on the board of a Federal Reserve Bank and had close ties to the Rockefellers and Harrimans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_P._Bush Samuel P. Bush, father of Senator Prescott Bush, grandfather of President G.H.W Bush, great grandpappy of President George W. Bush and Governor John Ellis (Jeb) Bush. Bush was the first president of the Ohio Manufacturers Association, and cofounder of Scioto Country Club and Columbus Academy. He was an avid sports enthusiast and a skilled carpenter. Political prominence In the spring of 1918, banker Bernard Baruch was asked to reorganize the War Industries Board as the U.S. prepared to enter World War I, and placed several prominent businessmen to key posts. Bush became chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms, and Ammunition Section, with national responsibility for government assistance to and relations with munitions companies. Bush served on the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland (as well as of the Huntington National Bank of Columbus). In 1931, he was appointed to Herbert Hoover's President's Committee for Unemployment Relief, chaired by Walter S. Gifford, then-President of AT&T. He was once recommended to serve on the board of the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, but Hoover did not feel he was sufficiently known nationally.
And the magazine's guess would be better than Trump's... why? Because they not only sift through public records to determine net worth,but they also have no reason to lie about it. You know Trump is lying if his lips are moving. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You just say stupid shit that isn't true all the time. Because you think you are clever. Trumps words moved and he said he wouldn't run third party if he won the nomination. You called that a lie. Which shows you are quite the fool We know you're lying when your fingers are typing. Example. You said you were going to vote for Bernie Sanders. Then you lied and said you didn't say that.
Well,it does show somebody is a fool. We know you're lying when your fingers are typing. Example. You said you were going to vote for Bernie Sanders. Once again you are lying,but even Bernie Sanders would be a better president than that gasbag Trump. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The former Commodore Hotel, now the four-star Grand Hyatt is hardly rental housing. It is on East 42nd St. between Lex and Park Place, next to Grand Central Station, and within walking distance of Times Square and the Empire State Building. This was the renovation subject to the 40 year abatement on property taxes. The below article includes before and after images. Changing that from the 1919 Commodore to the 4-star 1980 Grand Hyatt made a small fortune for NYC. Only the property taxes were abated. They couldn't make much from the previous bankrupt owner. This is not unusual for major corporate investments now. http://www.timeshutter.com/image/commodore-hotel-new-york The original Commodore opened on January 28, 1919. It was designed by Warren & Wetmore, and was part of a project known as Terminal City that was conceived to bring hotel and office buildings to the area around Grand Central Station. All were owned by the New York State Realty and Terminal Company, a division of the New York Central Railroad—a company in which Cornelius Vanderbilt (a.k.a. the Commodore) had a controlling interest. The Bowman-Biltmore Hotels Corporation leased the property, designed the hotel’s interior, and ran it. Bowman-Biltmore's own Herbert R. Stone oversaw the decor of all 2,000 rooms, including the lobby, which was also the single largest room of the day. It had modern low ceilings and an indoor waterfall. By 1929, Bowman-Biltmore was also running the adjacent Biltmore Hotel and the nearby Roosevelt Hotel, which gave them access to all the northeast corridor railroad passenger traffic in and out of New York City. With such a pedigree, it’s only fitting that the hotel ended up in the hands of Donald Trump. He bought it in 1977, when its railroad company owner was bankrupt. Trump decided to completely rebuild the hotel. The first few floors were gutted down to their steel frame. The architects left the exterior bricks of the Commodore in place, covering them with the reflective glass skin. The hotel re-opened in 1980 as the Grand Hyatt New York.
I wouldn't jump that far ahead. I do not know who his opponent would be, and he may not be nearly as strong in the general as in the primary season. But if the GOPe screws him over as the only way to clear a path for their chosen son, they may well wind up with The Donald on another ticket. Like with Perot, his supporters would like a chance to vote for their guy, and against the GOPe. Matt Taibbi explained it well. Party insiders ganged up on Trump in the first GOP debate, but the tactic may backfire By Matt Taibbi Last night's debate was the funniest political program in our nation's history. Nothing really comes close. There have been moments, obviously. Bush ducking a shoe. Admiral Stockdale saying "Who am I? Why am I here?" Sarah Palin being interviewed while a man in the background beheaded turkeys was a classic. But for comic staying power and sheer WTF factor last night's debate went beyond 11. By my count there were over a dozen genuine laugh-out-loud moments. Mike Huckabee bringing pimps into a presidential debate for the first time ever was a landmark moment. Jeb Bush's attempt at a one-liner, "They call me Veto Corrleone," made millions of adults cringe at the same time. Then there was Megyn Kelly's brain-busting toss to commercial near the end: KELLY: We have to stand you by, because after the break, we're going to let the candidates make their closing statements, their final thoughts, and… God. [...] There was clearly an effort last night by Republican party interests to knock Trump off his frontrunner pedestal. We saw ambush tactics from the start. Bret Baier started the whole thing off by asking the candidates to promise they wouldn't run on a third-party ticket. Trump declined, highlighting his non-Republican-ness. Megyn Kelly followed up by asking Trump to defend his record of calling women "fat pigs" and "disgusting animals" and then made his probable inability to score female votes in a race against Hillary part of her question. Later questions targeted Trump's heretical views on abortion and health care, and his history of donating money to the likes of Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. No other candidate got anything near this kind of treatment in the debate. A more typical question was Baier softballing Mike Huckabee, asking: "Is the government simply too big for any one person, even a Republican, to shrink?" [...] Trump is now also seeing a wave of punditry pieces flowing in from traditional conservative outlets slamming his campaign. The National Review's Jonah Goldberg wrote a long piece this month, "Trump fans, it's time for an intervention." [...] Meanwhile, Rich Lowry at the Review called the debate a "fabulously awful" night for Trump. He slobbered over the rest of the field. He said Bush "made no mistakes, " Christie was "forceful," Carson was "winsome," Kasich "more of a presence than I would have thought," and Huckabee was "incapable of having a bad debate." Meanwhile, Fox contributor Charles Krauthammer gleefully declared the debate to be the "end of Trump," saying that he looked "lost." [...] Trump's followers are a gang of pissed-off nativists who are tired of being laughed at, belittled, dismissed, and told who to vote for. So it seems incredible that the Republican establishment thinks it's going to get rid of Trump by laughing at, belittling and dismissing him, and telling his voters who they should be picking. These hysterical critics are making one of the world's most irredeemable bullies look persecuted and like a victim, a difficult feat. The desperation to get rid of him may just feed more and more into the right wing base's crazy victim complex, and in turn get Trump even more support. The numbers aren't out yet, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the debate last night didn't have exactly the opposite impact that Krauthammer and Frank Luntz and the rest of those clowns thinks it had. [...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey Doing polls for NBC and raking in $113M annual revenue is pretty good for not a top outfit.
It seemed just the other way around. I can almost hear them talking into Bret Baier's ear telling him to cut from this subject. by Mike Whitney Last night’s FOX News GOP Presidential Debate Extravaganza featured the most riveting two minute political exchange ever heard on national television. During a brief colloquy between Republican frontrunner Donald Trump and Fox moderator Brett Baier, the pugnacious casino magnate revealed the appalling truth about the American political system, that the big money guys like Trump own the whole crooked contraption lock, stock, and barrel, and that, the nation’s fake political leaders do whatever they’re told to do. Without question, it was most illuminating commentary to ever cross the airwaves. Here’s the entire exchange direct from the transcript: TRUMP: As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here. What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. I have a big company with thousands and thousands of employees. And if I’m negotiating in New York or in New Jersey or in California, I have like one bidder. Nobody can bid. You know why? Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians, of course, with the exception of the politicians on this stage. (uneasy laughter) But they have total control of the politicians. They’re making a fortune. Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have…yourself great plans… BAIER: Mr. Trump, it’s not just your past support for single-payer health care. You’ve also supported a host of other liberal policies….You’ve also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, and Nancy Pelosi. You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business-related favors. And you said recently, quote, “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.” TRUMP: You’d better believe it. BAIER: — they do? TRUMP: If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I’ve given to, just so you understand, a lot of money. TRUMP: I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me. And that’s a broken system. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi? TRUMP: Well, I’ll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn’t have a choice because I gave. I gave to a foundation that, frankly, that foundation is supposed to do good. I didn’t know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world. It was. BAIER: Hold on…..We’re going to — we’re going to move on.” (Transcript: Read the Full Text of the Primetime Republican Debate, Time) There it is, two glorious minutes of pure, unalloyed truth on national television. How often does that happen? How often does a fatcat billionaire-insider appear on TV and announce that the whole system is a big-fat scam run by crooks and patsies? Never, that’s when. But that’s what Trump did last night. And that’s why the clatter of ruthless miscreants who run the system behind the smokescreen of fake politicians are sharpening their knives right now before Manhattan’s rogue elephant does even more damage to their precious system. Just think about what the man said. He not only explained that the whole system is rigged (Baier: “And when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”…TRUMP: “You’d better believe it.”), he also said that the politicians will do whatever they’re told to do. (TRUMP: Well, …with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn’t have a choice because I gave.”) Doesn’t that confirm your darkest suspicions about the way the system really works, that money talks and that elections are just a way to get the sheeple to rubber-stamp a corrupt, fraudulent system? Of course, it does. So, let’s summarize: Moneybags capitalist loudmouth explains to 80 million dumbfounded Americans watching prime time TV, that the system is a total fraud, that the big money runs everything, and that even he thinks the system is broken. How do you beat that? Seriously, my wife and I were laughing and high-fiving and like we just won the lottery. Thanks for that, Don. We owe you one.
Because they not only sift through public records to determine net worth,but they also have no reason to lie about it. What magazine? And the public records of an organization like Trump's can only be guestimated from the public records. The magazines have to swag it. Trump has the real numbers.
The last time the base was this fed up was in 1992 when Ross Perot ran third party and collected nearly 20 million votes. I see no sign the GOP is especially interested. They are more interested in recruiting and funding challengers to Tea Party members of Congress who won't toe the line dictated by the open borders Chamber of Commerce.
It's upscale rental housing,but still rental housing. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Trump: "I can totally make that pledge, if I am the nominee, I will not run as an independent." He promised nothing. Obviously, if he is the GOP nominee then he really is unlikely to just dump the GOP and then run third party. You'd think the crowd would have started laughing at his "pledge".
I'll give you a half-point on that one because what Trump was really doing was bragging about his wealth and power more than he was complaining about a broken system. How often does a fatcat billionaire-insider appear on TV and announce that the whole system is a big-fat scam run by crooks and patsies? How many of them are stupid enough to admit they are one of the crooks gaming the system? And don't confuse arrogance with honesty. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
They do online surveys, not actual polling. I'm a little surprised you don't seem to recognize the difference. SurveyMonkey provides data collection, data analysis, brand management, and consumer marketing for Facebook, Virgin America, Salesforce.com, Samsung, and Kraft Foods, among others.[9] As of 2015, SurveyMonkey has 25 million users completing 90 million surveys a month. The company was named to the Forbes Unicorn List in 2015. [10]
What magazine? I have forgotten,but it was mentioned on a thread here on LF. And the public records of an organization like Trump's can only be guestimated from the public records. The magazines have to swag it. Trump has the real numbers. Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention? Do you work for Trump? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
For some reason he thinks the changes are immediate... It takes time for these things to all shake out which gives him the ammunition for his argument. Since the tax hike didn't hurt the economy immediately there must be another reason the economy went to schitt, and it will be a Republicans fault somehow... Never, that’s when. But that’s what Trump did last night. And that’s why the clatter of ruthless miscreants who run the system behind the smokescreen of fake politicians are sharpening their knives right now before Manhattan’s rogue elephant does even more damage to their precious system. Just think about what the man said. He not only explained that the whole system is rigged...he also said that the politicians will do whatever they’re told to do. HA! And that is exactly why what Trump has a accomplished is a noble thing of beauty, and it makes him a hero of We The People -- YES, HERO! The entire impenetrable system, wall of silence, the rigging of elections and policy decisions, the insider snickering at the ignorance of We The Peasants -- EXPOSED! It took a fed-up Insider and fellow narcissist, rampaging like a bull in a china shop to do it: Donald Trump. So either one can applaud Trump's unprecedented gesture and cheer on his further dismantling and exposure of the elites' FIX, OR support business as usual.
Commies are NEVER at fault for destroying capitalism. *snicker* But I WILL say that the GOPe ARE responsible for growing a gubmint leviathan. THAT itself helped dilute the Private Sector during the last 20 years -- while creating millions high-paying, unnecessary drone-jobs for mostly fellow socialists.
I see no sign the GOP is especially interested. Don't you mean, "GOPe"??
It's upscale rental housing,but still rental housing. LOL! Pete, you're a piece of work. The freakin' FOUR-STAR GRAND HYATT = "Rental Housing"? Bwaahaa!!
I do not know who his opponent would be, and he may not be nearly as strong in the general as in the primary season. But if the GOPe screws him over as the only way to clear a path for their chosen son, they may well wind up with The Donald on another ticket. Like with Perot, his supporters would like a chance to vote for their guy, and against the GOPe. I concur with your assessment and projected scenario completely. The GOPe is screwed either way, but as long as Trump helped expose and destroy the secret GOP-Dem Uniparty orgy and severely weaken the Establishment Republican reputation, I'm pleased. I'd rather gamble Trump somehow leads a Third Party rather than the status quo Uniparty charade. As to "President Trump," I'm tweaking the nipples of the anti-Trumpettes. ;-)
Who freakin' cares about "trustworthiness" of wealth figures in the context of the overall revelations? Trump JUST exposed AND CONFIRMED the entire GOP-Dem system as rigged 100%, revealed politicians are ONLY whores-for-hire, WHILE exposing the collusion of the Media, the Dems, AND Establishment GOP... But here YOU and others are, whining about the sprig of parsley on your plate of aged, prime filet mignon. Trump is no saint. But he blew the whistle on the system. Yes, a billionaire -- but who other than someone totally entrenched within the elite would be believed? Set aside you hatred of Trump for a moment and look at THE BIG PICTURE. Because of Donald Trump's dangerous, personally risky honesty, you've, we've all just witnessed the biggest scandal in political history. The elites' door was kicked in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey Doing polls for NBC and raking in $113M annual revenue is pretty good for not a top outfit. No, not a dignified moniker at all, but 'Survey Monkey' is apparently WELL respected AND yes -- a "top outfit" as far as polling goes. Some monikers sound dignified and true. Like "Planned Parenthood," which indeed does plan un-Parenthood via state-sanctioned "in utero" executions.
You realize this is largely self-selected online polling? Not real polling. But it is a lot cheaper for NBC and they can peddle this crap just as easily as they already peddle their more expensive conventional biased phone polls. This is a corporate cloud-based version of PollDaddy.
For some reason he thinks the changes are immediate... It takes time for these things to all shake out which gives him the ammunition for his argument. Since the tax hike didn't hurt the economy immediately there must be another reason the economy went to schitt, and it will be a Republicans fault somehow... Thus, my comments these macro economic issues are a lot more complex than pundits frame them. Reagan cut taxes, but he and Congress also held increases in government spending well below the growth of GDP. Success Bush II cut taxes but went on a war and social programs spending spree. Failure. He spent more than the growth. Again even that is scratching the surface as wars, natural disasters, and industry flux and crashes contribute to or decline from a recovery. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
But I WILL say that the GOPe ARE responsible for growing a gubmint leviathan. THAT itself helped dilute the Private Sector during the last 20 years -- while creating millions high-paying, unnecessary drone-jobs for mostly fellow socialists. Agree. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
I have to agree that some 'light' was shed on the whole corrupt collusion (party elites and media). I don't think Trump meant for that to happen. It just happened by the elite confronting him trying to bruise his ego and Trump reacting as he always does...defending his ego. It is quite comical to watch professional narcissists go at it. Especially when they don't realize they are narcissists:) It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats by having so many primary candidates. Seems not everything is going to plan and that upsets the apple cart some. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Couldn't you argue the same if there were only a few candidates? Different open primary years for presidential elections tend to attract a fair number of candidates. This is one reason why Romney had so few real challengers of any caliber but McStain had quite a few that were more credible. A non-incumbent election tends to bring out every candidate that ever had a hankering to run. The Dims suppressed that this time by collaring all their tycoons and the libmedia and making it clear that Hitlery was the nominee, no matter what. And Trump will ultimately guarantee Bush the GOP nomination.
The Big Picture is that he is a life-long Dim and resident of NYC,and he's in it for himself because he doesn't care about anyone else. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed. And that is assuming he isn't a Dim in Republican clothing to start with. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
A bad bet and poor strategy if true on their part. No one likes Lady Lindsey. "When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Politics has become a game played by infantile hyperverbal narcissists who derive a career appealing to a nation of moron narcissists. Serious adulthood is being universally phased out. People with IQs 85 are now convinced they are geniuses and are entitled to according entitlements.
And why didn't the Dims blackmail him when he served as the House's prosecutor in impeaching Bill Clinton after the Starr report was submitted?
They do. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Don't make me go into a yukon/Gatlin rant on rabid CTers... : )
Don't make me go into a yukon/Gatlin rant on rabid CTers... : ) It's not a theory if there is an actual plan,and WTH would they push Lady Lindsey to stick up for Bubba Bill when Bubba Bill was in no danger anyhow? Better to hold him in reserve. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that some magazine you can't identify has better information about Trump's finances that Trump? I did not say he was more trustworthy when talking about his wealth, I said he is the sole source for the accurate information. It is not possible to review public records and get a complete picture of his finances. Forbes estimated his net worth at $4B. http://fortune.com/2015/07/17/donald-trump-net-worth-calculator/ Others disagree. Wealth-X, a consulting firm, puts Trump’s net worth at $4.5 billion. Forbes says the real estate tycoon-turned-reality star-turned-presidential hopeful is worth $4 billion. And the magazine estimates that Trump’s net worth has dropped by at least $125 million since he announced his presidential run a month ago. Author Timothy O’Brien famously estimated Trump’s net worth was as little as $125 million. Trump sued for libel, but the case was thrown out by the judge. Who’s right? It’s hard to tell based on what Trump has disclosed so far. In his statement on Wednesday, Trump said he had income of $362 million last year. That didn’t included dividends or other capital gains. After taxes, that’s $217 million. If Trump were a stock, for him to be worth $10 billion, he would have a price-to-earnings ratio of 46. Facebook FB -0.03% has a p/e that’s roughly equivalent to that. But the social network’s cash flow is rising by 40% a year. Trump’s, likely, is not. It appears to be somewhere between $125M and $10B.
And don't confuse arrogance with honesty. Ah, when he is the only one in the history of debates to tell the truth about political donations, he is still a liar because his motives were impure. Personally, I never believe someone who has made billions is stupid. Arrogant? Of course he is. Arrogance flashes off Trump like a neon sign. That's part of the Trump brand. If the corporate fat cats are buying favors with donations, the question becomes what are the politicians selling that is worth the donations? Trump was smart enough to stick to wedding attendances. In the midst of his schtick, few seem to have noticed that he did not say what else he got for his donations.
True but you know how he likes to blame them for everything even if they didn't do it... Now the issue is how many people will believe what he said and how many people will just Very brave of you to way out on a limb like that. : )
It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats by having so many primary candidates. Seems not everything is going to plan and that upsets the apple cart some. Yes it was quite amusing and now I wonder what "dirt" will be dug up in the next few months by the establishment to discredit Trump and grease the skids for the Oscar Mayor Weiner Boy "Jebby Poo"??? I'm not so sure about that... Speaking of narcissists... http://www.lightshouse.org/all-about-narcissists.html#axzz3iRvV7J3Z You can thank the school system for teaching them that they are special when they actually aren't... You realize your knee-jerk reaction is wrong. Of course, I am not the one who claimed their results are scientific, as opposed to the unscientific flash polls. Why a poll using the internet must be any less scientific than a poll using the telephone is not explained. A disadvantage of phone polling is that random calls to cell phone numbers from phone banks are frowned upon. http://www.pewresearch.org/methodology/u-s-survey-research/sampling/ Pew Research Center is engaged in an ongoing program of research on non-probability sampling to determine what its potential may be for the types of research that we conduct. Our largest effort in this arena is a collaboration with SurveyMonkey and Westat. In our collaboration, each of the three organizations involved in this work has conducted a survey drawing on a common core of measures. SurveyMonkey conducted a survey of its non-probability panel, Westat conducted a survey with a probability sample of U.S. households selected using address-based sampling and Pew Research Center conducted a survey with its probability-based American Trends Panel. Additional comparisons are available from Pew Research Center telephone surveys. [...] In 2014, The New York Times and CBS News used online non-probability survey panels from UK-based research firm YouGov as part of their election polling efforts, and NBC News and SurveyMonkey have been conducting occasional joint polls of this variety.
No one likes Lady Lindsey. But you have to remember they think "ALL" the voters are stupid... [deleted by nc]
[sneakypete at #325] A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion. The source of the $2-3B claim is unknown, and I failed to find it. I found Forbes at $4.1B, Wealth-X, a consulting firm that puts Trump’s net worth at $4.5 billion, and author Timothy O’Brien's estimate of $125 million. Adding Pete's figure, and Trump's figure, it is either $125M, $2B, $3B, $4.1B, $4.5B, or $10B. The figures I supplied all had a source. The $2-3B is unsourced. Putting them all together says any estimate is a guess, largely influenced by what information is available and how various assets are valued. Critics would like to value the Trump brand at $0. Trump would like to value it at a few billion. If $10B is generous, $2-3B is an unsourced lowball figure.
As far as running and self-funding a billion dollar campaign (or assuming his huge 98% name recognition is worth half that amount alone as far as running for prez), what are Trump's actual liquid assets? I've read $300-$400 million. That might be barely enough, given that both parties are expected to spend in the $1.5-$2 billion range. As far as the GOP nomination, Bush has $120M now and told his big donors to keep at $1M or less for now. Bush could conceivably raise a half billion just on a primary race against Trump.
Don't know if you've seen this one or not... http://therealdeal.com/issues_articles/the-8-billion-dollar-man/ No,I am saying it is impossible for Trump to tell the truth about his money. His ego demands he at least double the amount when talking about it because he thinks it makes him look smarter. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Most are. I have talked with people that admitted to voting for Boy Jorge because they thought they were voting for his father,which is another mystery. Why would anyone want to vote for Poppy again? I have also gotten into arguments with people who REMEMBER Nixon going to prison for breaking into the Watergate complex,and they also remember him starting the VN war. Nothing you can say or do will convince them otherwise. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Trump has claimed his brand is worth $4 Billion. I think he is trying to increase it's worth by running for President. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I was thinking today about Herman Cain becoming the frontrunner for a month in 2012 and how he stuck to his scheduled book promotion tour even as he was buying some ads on Limbaugh and other syndicated outlets. It became obvious he never thought about campaigning seriously and it was all just his book tour. And I had a thought. What if Trump is staging the biggest and most elaborate book promotion deal ever seen? : ) Anyone heard what the title of Trump's campaign book will be? How about "Trump: I Really Am The Greatest"?
It can only be an estimate. He's not holding stocks and cash. His net worth varies over time and the vast bulk of his fortune is in real estate. He's not going to actually sell it to prove its actual worth on the open market. This is why I think Trump's cash on hand is the more important number as far as his ability to match the tycoons backing the other candidates. Adelson is worth $37B. The Koch brothers, $80B. There are a number of others that Trump can't just outspend on a whim.
That might be barely enough, given that both parties are expected to spend in the $1.5-$2 billion range. You just keep holding out for Trump running out of liquid assets or credit.
By a conservative estimate, he has a shitload of money.
You really think Trump would take on debt to run for prez? I can't see that happening. Well, having done the book title, I'm now wondering about his campaign theme song. How about Sinatra's "I Did It My Way".
Yeah but he isn't building a real campaign organization. Trump appears to be just as stingy about spending his cash as Perot was. Some experts think that if Perot had made an effort with another $50-$100 million, he would have won the presidency.
Forbes says Trump claims his brand is worth $3.3B, and they value it at $128M. By all estimateds, Trump has a shitload of money.
You really think he will run out of money?
With no real campaign organization he is leading. What does that say about real campaign organizations?
Some experts, so called, thought Trump's campaign would crater after he said becoming a POW was not heroic.
I doubt he can (or will be willing to) try to outspend the Adelsons, the Kochs, the Marriotts and all the other tycoons that will be funding the GOP race. The more Trump poses a threat, the more quickly they unite, most likely behind Bush.
I think Perots problem was he dropped out of the race for a bit. If he hadn't done that he may not have won but he would have had even more votes.
Very true. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Big deal. People like to watch car wrecks,too. It is human nature to have a taste for viewing the unusual or the outlandish. Once/if he even gets backed into a corner and has to talk about the nuts and bolts of policy decisions,he's done. Notice how he was saying on teebee that he wasn't referring to that reporter babe having a period because his mind was on "nuclears". Un,huh. All hat,no cattle. The instant things start looking bad for him he is going to take a dive and bail out. He will probably say he quit because he didn't want his name associated with the losers he was having to share a stage with. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It should have. Draft dodgers have no standing to comment on anyone else's courage or lack of it. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
nolu chan: The candidates really must explain that to the prospective donors. Yeah, about 60 BILLIONAIRES in the USA and the leadership in Israel to donate millions to their selected candidate. As for the average American, they could care less other than gossip on a chit-chat Internet channel or rumours at the company water cooler to while the way the boredrum of office work.
Maybe Trump will Ivanka his daughter campaign some. Can't hurt:)
"When Americans reach out for values of faith, family, and caring for the needy, they're saying, "We want the word of God. We want to face the future with the Bible.'"---Ronald Reagan
Gee, how much money will it cost to sell another Bush? Maybe they could just run Mitch McConnell and John Boehner on a conservative leadership ticket.
We don't know what Trump would do in office. OTH, we know damn well what those other douchebags have already done.
It shouldn't and it didn't. Being caught does not make one a hero. The GOPe hit machine are just a bunch of slimy paid mouthpieces. McCain started the exchange.
Well, they are not seeking out the guy at the bottom of all the polls. It's not so much a donation as it is an investment. They want return on investment. All the money Jeb has will not help him with love, amnesty and open borders.
The draft violates the 13th amendment.
Here is what Ted Cruz said to Politico. It also describes you. You're having a negative effect on the Republican party. Maybe nont intentionally but you are helping Hillary. Stop and think about the following and quit being so dumb. Cruz’s remarks, which came during an interview with POLITICO as he swings through the South on a bus tour, are among the most detailed comments to date regarding his reluctance to criticize the real estate mogul, who is currently leading the polls in the GOP primary. “I would … note that an awful lot of Republicans, including other Republican candidates, have gone out of their way to smack Donald Trump with a stick. Now I think that’s just foolish,” he said. Asked why, Cruz paused and then replied, “Donald Trump had a rally in Phoenix, Ariz. [to which] between 10 and 20 thousand people came out. When you attack and vilify the people at that rally as crazies, it does nothing to help Republicans win in 2016. I’d like every single person at that rally to show up and vote in 2016, knock on doors with energy and passion, and turn this country around. If Washington politicians show contempt and condescension to those [voters,] that is a path to losing at the ballot box.”
Amen!
Is that sarcasm I detect? I'd say the Bush machine will be ready to spend at least $1.5 billion, maybe $2 billion. I certainly dislike the Bushes as much as anyone. But I was talking about the race strictly in money terms. Quite often, it does come down to who has raised the most money and can hold on the longest (along with support from the elected GOP party leaders). Can Trump outspend the other tycoons alone? Will Carl Icahn, being promised SoT, decide to donate big to a Trump super-PAC? Sometimes the nomination fight does just come down to who has the most money to throw around or to be able to wait for the other guys to run out of money.
Asked why, Cruz paused and then replied, “Donald Trump had a rally in Phoenix, Ariz. [to which] between 10 and 20 thousand people came out. When you attack and vilify the people at that rally as crazies, it does nothing to help Republicans win in 2016. I’d like every single person at that rally to show up and vote in 2016, knock on doors with energy and passion, and turn this country around. If Washington politicians show contempt and condescension to those [voters,] that is a path to losing at the ballot box.” He's talking about McStain, his own longtime enemy. Notice how he deftly ignores Trump's attack on McStain's military record as a POW and deflects that into his own attack on McStain's crass remarks about those "crazies" (his own constituents) that turned out to see Trump in AZ. So I don't see how Cruz is being stupid. Of course, it goes without saying that I am being stupid by definition, since I don't share your man-crush on Trump. Cruz, interestingly, is making the plans and seems to have adequate financing for a 35-state campaign. Cruz wants to go the distance and make it a real challenge, setting the stage for a 2020 run if he can't win in 2016. This kind of campaign also will help Cruz build up Tea candidates for House/Senate as the Chamber does want to go after all the Tea folk in Congress. Including Cruz in 2018. So for Cruz, a good offense is the best defense.
How old are these people?? You might think that with 320 million American citizens, we might have a few more presidential nominees than Jeb!,Hillary! and Trump! wouldn't you?
It shouldn't and it didn't. Being caught does not make one a hero. You are full of crap on this one. Anyone that purposely exposes themselves to enemy fire over and over qualifies as a hero. Have much 12.7mm,20mm,and 37mm anti-aircraft fire have YOU exposed yourself to,not to mention SAM missiles? If the correct number is "Zero",you have no standing to judge his courage,and that goes double if you were a draft-dodger like Trump. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The draft violates the 13th amendment. Were you a draft-dodger too? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
How old are these people?? They were probably in their 40's or older at the time. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
There was never a draft for my generation. The 13th amendment talks about involuntary servitude. If you take the words to mean what they say without lawyer spin it forbids it. Right or wrong that is what the text of the 13th amendment says.
Nope. That is PC. Everyone gets a trophy thinking. A hero is someone like the charachter Rambo when he was in Viet Nam.
Much of the Army and Marines do that. That does not make them all heroes. What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero. The families of other POWs have evisceral hate for him. I was in the Navy. Except for those such as SEALs, the Navy does not see much firepower that small. Everybody on a ship is exposed, along with the ship. If it goes down, it's a long swim, if you can get in the water and get away from it in time. That does not make the everyone on a ship a hero. I'm pretty sure there are more casualties on the flight deck of a carrier than among the pilots who fly off the carrier.
I did not judge his courage. I judged whether being captured makes on a hero. If I were a draft dodger I would not be retired military. nolu chan, USN, Ret.
I'll add this. John McCain served honorably. I respect that about him. I just wouldn't go so far as to call him a hero. I think we are actually pretty much in agreement. We just express it differently, and I have a higher standard of what qualifies as a hero.
There was never a draft for my generation. I guess that lets you off the hook be default,doesn't it? he 13th amendment talks about involuntary servitude. If you take the words to mean what they say without lawyer spin it forbids it. Anyone that isn't willing to fight for their country if called up doesn't deserve to have a country. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
We only have two parties that matter, and they have the same sponsors. They only want candidates they own.
Nope. That is PC. Everyone gets a trophy thinking. A hero is someone like the charachter Rambo when he was in Viet Nam. Your ignorance is stunning. Do you get all your knowledge from your teebee and movies? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Anyone that isn't willing to fight for their country if called up doesn't deserve to have a country. I don't necessarily disagree with that. I'm just commenting on what I honestly to believe the text of the 13th amendment to say. Like I said before rightly or wrongly. The constitution isn't auomatically right on everything.
Of course it does. What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero. No,that is the spin you Trump Turnips are trying to put on it. He CLEARLY stated that McLunatic wasn't a hero because he was a POW,and that the people he considered to be the heroes were the ones that weren't captured. Which I guess qualifies Trump and all the other draft-dodgers are heroes because none of them were ever captured,were they? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Kinda like a [two] headed snake, huh? Which head do you cut off to kill the vile beast that lies to you, the good one or the bad one?
Do you get all your knowledge from your teebee and movies? I'm not ignorant. You're just PC to a degree. No not on everything. No I don't get all my knowledge from tebee [sic] and movies?
Nope. That is PC. Everyone gets a trophy thinking. More ignorance. Everybody in the military that did expose themselves to enemy fire over and over DID get a "trophy" in one form or another. It came in the form of an awards and decorations. Some just recognized the risk you exposed yourself to,like Air Medals,CIB's,CMB's,etc,etc,etc,and some were higher level awards that recognized individual acts of courage. You woldn't know this because you never served,and you don't even really care about it other than to cover up for your own personal "hero",the trust fund draft dodger. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Which means you never saw any combat. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
How do you know what I care about? You don't.
McCain himself said he wasn't a hero. You said you saw combat and you also said you didn't consider yourself a hero. Case closed.
Also I'm sure you served honorably. I'd also like to apologize to you a while back when I said you only served because you wanted to kill people. That was wrong. I'm sorry.
Actually,he didn't. He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down,but once his wounds were treated and he was out of the hospital,he violated his oath as member of the US military and gave aid and comfort to the enemy. He even gave anti-American interviews to communist newspapers and it is said he also made radio broadcasts encouraging soldiers to refuse to fight. I never heard any of the radio broadcasts and have never talked to anyone who did either,so I am not so sure that was true,but the rest was. And I do cut him some slack for telling the NVA his daddy was a Admiral so he could get better medical treatment right after he was captured. Anyone in that position that doesn't try to get better medical treatment is a fool. It's not the same thing as exposing military secrets. He was also a pretty lousy pilot by all reports. None of which takes away from the courage he exhibited by taking off and landing on a carrier deck at sea,and floying off into the face of some pretty intense AAA fire to drop his bombs. I don't give a damn who you are,that takes stones. You might want to take note of this because it will probably be the only good thing you will ever see me write about McLunatic. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Sadly,we have devolved to the point where we really only have one party,with two branches competing for power but seeking the same goals when in office. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Now you are telling us that people who don't serve honorably are heroes. Are there any Nazi heroes?
Get off it.
Shut up Fred.
AFAIK,that IS what it says,but like everything else in life,you need context. Don't forget that the people who wrote and passed the Bill of Rights were also the very same people who said every American male over the age of 17 and under the age of 45 (?) is a member of the militia and subject to be called to active duty. I have no doubt there is ample documentation of the letters they sent to one another explaining why the militia isn't Un-Constituional. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I don't,other than what your post tell me about what is important to you. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I have no doubt there is ample documentation of the letters they sent to one another explaining why the militia isn't Un-Constituional. I'm a literalist on words in the constitution. I want them literally obeyed. Not some lawyer twisting of words. That is why my position is what it is. If the 13th amendment is worded incorrectly. It should be repealed and replaced with something better. But as it stands it says what it says. Also the amendments change the constituion.
Thank you for the apology,but it isn't really necessary. I recognized it was a "heat of the moment" thing when I read it. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
In some cases,yes. People aren't machines that are programmed to only think and react one way. You have to recognize the positive things people do as well as recognize the bad they do. For example,Benedict Arnold was a hero to the American cause before he became a traitor. Are there any Nazi heroes? Oh,hell YEAH! Otto Skorzeny,the guy that led the raid to rescue Mussolini,for example. There were many,many German WW-2 heroes. I even knew and served with a few in the US Army in the 60's. It came as a shock to me to see people standing in the same formation as me during a IG inspection wearing Iron Crosses on their uniforms. I never knew him personally,but Lauri Törni/Larry Throne was one of these people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_T%C3%B6rni Fought against the Red Army and earned Finlands highest decoration for courage when the Soviets invaded Finland,and when the Nazi's finally won,he escaped to Germany and enlisted in their army as a Private so he could go off and kill more communists,and was awarded several medals for courage by the Nazi's. He died when the helicopter he was riding in crashed into the jungle while returning from inserting a recon team behind enemy lines in Laos. Some of the VN people we worked with in VN had fought with the NVA against the French,and then helped us fight against the Vietnamese communists when they invaded the south. Courage doesn't have a nationality or belong to any one group. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Ok reasonable enough.
CONTEXT! Freedom isn't free,and those who aren't willing to fight for it will not remain free. If you are not a free people,no words written or spoken anywhere by anyone else have any meaning because YOU will not be able to speak YOUR truth. If you are not willing to fight to defend your country and your freedoms,you won't maintain either. I'm GUESSING the Founding Fathers thought that was so obvious it didn't need explaining. I guess in their day it was a lot more obvious than it is today. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
If we were being attacked I would have no problem fighting. If they tried to draft me for Iraq I would have a problem with that.
Truthfully,I have serious problems with ANY American being sent to fight in the Muddle East. Having said that,soldiers aren't the ones who decides who and where they fight. It is the politicians that make these decisions. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
No,that is the spin you Trump Turnips are trying to put on it. He CLEARLY stated that McLunatic wasn't a hero because he was a POW,and that the people he considered to be the heroes were the ones that weren't captured. What Trump said, in quotes: What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero. Getting captured does not make one a war hero.
Which means you never saw any combat. Not claiming to have seen combat can be added to my not claiming to be a lawyer.
“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” Nice spin. He essentially said what I claimed,and the spin was "being captured doesn't make you a hero." No,what makes you a hero is purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy. AND.....,as a draft dodger,that bucket of vomit doesn't get to make those judgements. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
People like you and Trump talking about who are heroes and who aren't remind me of virgins talking about sex. Lots of theories,but you don't really have a clue about the reality you are making judgement calls about. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” [sneakypete #444] No,what makes you a hero is purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy. It would appear that the Army defines Navy heroes with their own unique definition not shared by the Navy. Below you describe your hero in terms of being an incompetent pilot who violated his oath and, gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and encouraged soldiers to refuse to fight. I observed no uprising of his fellow POWs coming to his defense. Perhaps according to unique Army standards, Bowe Bergdahl is a hero. It appears the only requirement is "putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy." Bergdahl went to Afghanistan. [sneakypete #428] Actually,he didn't. He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down,but once his wounds were treated and he was out of the hospital,he violated his oath as member of the US military and gave aid and comfort to the enemy. He even gave anti-American interviews to communist newspapers and it is said he also made radio broadcasts encouraging soldiers to refuse to fight. I never heard any of the radio broadcasts and have never talked to anyone who did either,so I am not so sure that was true,but the rest was. And I do cut him some slack for telling the NVA his daddy was a Admiral so he could get better medical treatment right after he was captured. Anyone in that position that doesn't try to get better medical treatment is a fool. It's not the same thing as exposing military secrets. He was also a pretty lousy pilot by all reports. None of which takes away from the courage he exhibited by taking off and landing on a carrier deck at sea,and floying off into the face of some pretty intense AAA fire to drop his bombs. I don't give a damn who you are,that takes stones. You might want to take note of this because it will probably be the only good thing you will ever see me write about McLunatic.
People like you making judgments for Navy standards of heroes, or flight deck operations, and asserting at once that someone gave aid and comfort to the enemy and is a hero -- I'm underwhelmed. Stick with your Army stories.
Am I a hero. I sometimes work on high places. I could fall and hurt myself. I must be a hero. From now on when you address me call me Hero A K A Stone. Thanks in advance.
Have you ever hurt yourself in the past?
It would also appear that you are full of shit. Below you describe your hero in terms of being an incompetent pilot who violated his oath and, gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and encouraged soldiers to refuse to fight. I observed no uprising of his fellow POWs coming to his defense. And now you are lying by editing. I CLEARLY stated what made him a hero was the things he did BEFORE he was captured. Perhaps according to unique Army standards, Bowe Bergdahl is a hero. It appears the only requirement is "putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy." Bergdahl went to Afghanistan. I guess to somebody that thinks riding around on a boat at sea is dangerous would think that way. Point 1. Bowe Bergdahl did not volunteer to go into combat,and did everything he could do to avoid going into combat,including deserting. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
That's because you are a professional fool that is pimping Trump. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Poor bay-bay! Where do you want me to send your "Cold War Veteran" baseball cap? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Shit, I did that 5 days a week for 20 years. V&T stops, Bar fight calls, domestics and assaults in progress. By your definition, a skyscraper window washer is a hero. A hero is someone that places him/her in danger for their country, community or fellow peers. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Below you describe your hero in terms of being an incompetent pilot who violated his oath and, gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and encouraged soldiers to refuse to fight. I observed no uprising of his fellow POWs coming to his defense. And now you are lying by editing. I CLEARLY stated what made him a hero was the things he did BEFORE he was captured. I guess the truth hurts. I quoted your #428 in full minus only the tag line. Here is is again, in full, with the tag line. http://www2.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41228&Disp=428#C428 Actually,he didn't. He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down,but once his wounds were treated and he was out of the hospital,he violated his oath as member of the US military and gave aid and comfort to the enemy. He even gave anti-American interviews to communist newspapers and it is said he also made radio broadcasts encouraging soldiers to refuse to fight. I never heard any of the radio broadcasts and have never talked to anyone who did either,so I am not so sure that was true,but the rest was. And I do cut him some slack for telling the NVA his daddy was a Admiral so he could get better medical treatment right after he was captured. Anyone in that position that doesn't try to get better medical treatment is a fool. It's not the same thing as exposing military secrets. He was also a pretty lousy pilot by all reports. None of which takes away from the courage he exhibited by taking off and landing on a carrier deck at sea,and floying off into the face of some pretty intense AAA fire to drop his bombs. I don't give a damn who you are,that takes stones. You might want to take note of this because it will probably be the only good thing you will ever see me write about McLunatic. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012) You said, "Actually,he didn't [serve honorably]." You said, "He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down...." You continued, "but once his wounds were treated and he was out of the hospital,he violated his oath as member of the US military and gave aid and comfort to the enemy." You continued, "He even gave anti-American interviews to communist newspapers and it is said he also made radio broadcasts encouraging soldiers to refuse to fight." At my #446, I observed: Now you claim: "I CLEARLY stated what made him a hero was the things he did BEFORE he was captured." What you said was, "He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down...." Your words, not mine. You claimed, "He was also a pretty lousy pilot by all reports. None of which takes away from the courage he exhibited by taking off and landing on a carrier deck at sea,and floying off into the face of some pretty intense AAA fire to drop his bombs. I don't give a damn who you are,that takes stones." I observed that Bowe Bergdahl put himself in a position of greater danger on the front lines in Afghanistan. Therefore, by Army standards he appears to qualify as a hero and I observed: I will also observe that service members in the states sitting around, who have some nut job with a gun walk up and shoot them are now heroes and get a purple heart. They are unfortunate victims who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The family of every member of the military who dies in the line of service should be well compensated and taken care of without the need for a make believe heroism award. Working on the flight deck is very dangerous. Think about working on a flight deck when incompetent pilots are trying to land. Think about a jet turning and you getting blown overboard by the jet wash. Think of being on the deck when an aircraft restraining cable snaps. Being on the Pueblo was dangerous. Being on the Liberty, Thresher, Scorpion, Iowa, Cole, Stark or Forrestal was deadly. The SEALs are Americas elite unit. They and the Corpsmen who accompany them regularly go to hazardous duty. Just because you do not know, submarines are boats,. The surface navy has ships. Stick with talking about the Army and stop revealing your ignorance of the Navy. Bowe Bergdahl was not drafted. He enlisted. He volunteered. He was not dragged to Afghanistan in handcuffs. He deserted after he was there. He enlisted in 2008. He deployed to Afghanistan in May 2009. He got himself lost on June 30, 2009. He had excellent evals before he left and was advanced to Sergeant in captivity. He's not my typical hero, but by your definition he counts as one. Deal with it.
That's because you are a professional fool that is pimping Trump. You must be an amateur fool then. And I am not pimping Trump, but observing that he is in the lead and Bush is in the weeds.
*chuckle*
Shit, I did that 5 days a week for 20 years. V&T stops, Bar fight calls, domestics and assaults in progress. You have no idea what you are talking about,although I am sure you think you do. Being a cop is a hell of a lot safer than being a fireman or a EMT,and a HELL of a lot safer than being a suspect with a armed cop about to have a nervous breakdown pointing a gun at you. Driving a cab is a hell of a lot more dangerous. When was the last time you were shot at with machine guns or cannons? Ever dodged many grenades? Been shot at and returned fire? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
This is the second time,and you are STILL either having a reading comprehension problem,or just don't understand what "ou said, "He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down...." means. Which is it? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You must be an amateur fool then. Better an amateur than a full-on professional,bubba. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You defined "hero", not me. lol And to answer your question... Shot at TWICE. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Were you wearing your diaper?
I'm not a Muslim. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
When was the last time you were shot at with machine guns or cannons? Ever dodged many grenades? Been shot at and returned fire? Pete - You don't understand the plight of a socialist government worker such as GrandIsland. Nope, you are totally offbase for not asking the right questions towards a socialist (as GrandIsland) no matter how well intentioned you are to get answers from him. Frankly, your questions are at a higher lever of existence and GrandIsland doen't quite "getit." If you ask GrandIsland about doughnut breaks and work @watercoolers and BIG FAT GOVERNMENT PAY CHECKS and MORE BIG FAT RETIREMENT CHECKS, he might be able to answer you. That is all he knows. So be kind to a parasite, such as GrandIsland.
Grow up... Bucky. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Its pretty bad that you grew up thinking that wearing a uniform for a government body was called "freedom." Your credentials are silly (at best) to discuss politics on this channel. Here, let me give you a hint: sit on the sidelines with your Trumped UPPED POM-POMs waving for the other other socialists. But, do your POM-POM raising in the silence of your own domicile.
Let me know when you're important enough to have an opinion... until then, I'll continue to post "on this channel" lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
What do you actually say? trump, Trump, TRUMP, THUMP?
You defined "hero", not me. lol And to answer your question... Shot at TWICE. Cops are more likely to die from boredom or suicide than they are to be killed. You're just a bunch of posers. And to answer your question... Shot at TWICE. WOW! Twice in 20 years! How DID you stand the pressure? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'm pretty sure he was after the first time. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Only if Trump being president pisses you off, Off, OFF Then I know he's good for the country. lol I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
You were pretty sure about lots of fags in most families, too. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I don't agree with you about taxi drivers being more dangerous then being an officer. You may be right or wrong. I don't know. But I found this video.
I didn't... One of the times I was sitting I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I was right and wrong. It really depends on what city you live in and what area or company you drive for. Low information thugs don't care about shooting cab drivers,but they know if they shoot a cop the cops will never stop looking for them. Nobody really cares about cab drivers other than their families. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
typo? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Which is it? Now serving honorably, even if incompetently, qualifies one as a hero. It's fun learning the standards used by the Army. I guess everyone with a good conduct award is a hero.
I can see why you hold amateur abilities in high esteem.
Now serving honorably, even if incompetently, qualifies one as a hero. Since you are clearly too stupid to understand it,why continue to beat my head against the wall trying to explain something so simple even Al Gore could understand it. It's fun learning the standards used by the Army. Probably because the Navy doesn't have any. They gave him 3 Silver Stars while he was a POW. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Since you are clearly too stupid to understand it,why continue to beat my head against the wall trying to explain something so simple No need to stop beating your head against the wall now. It is evident that the damage is already done.
"Kelly did ask Trump tough questions in last night’s debate"
#2. To: TooConservative (#0)
#3. To: TooConservative (#0)
#4. To: TooConservative, misterwhite, redleghunter, Stoner, LF (#0)
His comment was inappropriate. It is unfortunate to have to disinvite him. But I just don’t want someone on stage who gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it was hormonal. It just was wrong.
#5. To: TooConservative (#0)
#6. To: Liberator (#4)
Guess what? Trump *will* be running Third Party
#7. To: Willie Green (#5)
" this loosely scripted brouhaha with Megyn Kelly & Erick Erickson is intended to discredit populist concerns and make lackluster establishment candidates like Bush & Kasich appear more palatable. "
#8. To: Liberator (#4)
Trump *will* be running Third Party.
#9. To: TooConservative (#0)
#10. To: misterwhite (#1)
About the names he called some women, trying to resurrect the old "Republican War-on-Women" theme. Yeah. There's a hot issue.
#11. To: Willie Green, Liberator (#6)
And who is going to be his running mate?
#12. To: buckeroo (#11)
#13. To: buckeroo, rlk (#8)
Who gives a rat's ass?
#14. To: Fred Mertz (#12)
#15. To: Liberator (#13)
Even YOU do.
#16. To: Vicomte13 (#9)
A woman who gets offended by references to menstruation is too much of a pussy to be President.
#17. To: buckeroo (#15)
Taxed to death to pay for foreign intrigue that goes nowhere while the US borders are allowed to be infiltrated by the lowest scum on the planet and receive full citizenship? Are you out of your phuckin' mind?
#18. To: buckeroo (#14)
But on Wednesday, during a separate interview on Fox News Channel’s “Fox and Friends,” Trump rolled back his comments, saying he and Stephanopoulos were only joking.
#19. To: buckeroo, Willie Green (#11)
Donald Trump says he would ‘love to have Oprah’ Winfrey as his 2016 running mate; check it out: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-love-oprah-2016-running-mate-article-1.2260917
#20. To: Liberator (#3)
This broad Fiorina is a hologram. A fake. Wolf in sheeps' clothing. A hedge for Jeb. A totally manufactured candidate who is OBVIOUSLY following a script.
#21. To: Liberator, Frecd Mertz (#19)
#22. To: GarySpFC (#20)
#23. To: Stoner (#2)
I think like all other attempts to stab/smear Trump, this one will backfire against the accusers, and to Trumps benefit.
#24. To: Willie Green (#6)
Trump is a total fraud.... his only goal is to cram yet another Bush down your throat.
#25. To: Liberator (#3)
(Edited)
This broad Fiorina is a hologram. A fake. Wolf in sheeps' clothing. A hedge for Jeb.
#26. To: Liberator (#4)
Erickson is FOS. He's either a fake Pubbie and tool of GOPe, a Democrat(R), OR a homofascist. Or as I suspect, ALL of the above.
#27. To: GarySpFC (#20)
(Edited)
Lib, you.re usually on target. but this time you are dead wrong.
#28. To: Vicomte13 (#9)
A woman who gets offended by references to menstruation is too much of a pussy to be President.
#29. To: TooConservative (#26)
LOL. You've hedged all your bets this time.
#30. To: buckeroo (#22)
#31. To: TooConservative (#28)
#32. To: Liberator (#27)
That she's already come out and dissed Trump was designed to portray her as the feminine voice of reason. She IS being supported behind the scenes as back up to Jeb.
#33. To: buckeroo (#31)
The show was designed to be a klown circus.
#34. To: buckeroo (#31)
(Edited)
#35. To: buckeroo (#31)
(Edited)
The show was designed to be a klown circus.
#36. To: Fred Mertz (#33)
Did you notice it wasn't even a debate ...
#37. To: TooConservative (#35)
... bleeding from...somewhere?
#38. To: TooConservative (#25)
In her rather miserable 2010 CA Senate campaign, she was adamantly pro-choice and on the global hotting side.
#39. To: buckeroo (#37)
You and others assume Trump mean't she was menstruating.
#40. To: TooConservative (#35)
The others are all coming. Trump is disinvited and his slot has been given to Megan Kelly to make a speech.
#41. To: Liberator (#38)
(Edited)
But THIS time, her handlers have jumped on the "Destroy-Trump!" bandwagon, which undoubtedly endears her to the RNC. My impression: Fiorina seems...almost TOO polished, too smooth, too confident. And NOW she can play off and exploit the "War on Women" card and not be treated "meanly" during the campaign. How utterly reptilian AND brilliant!
#42. To: TooConservative (#35)
You suppose she will show up on stage, bleeding from...somewhere?
#43. To: TooConservative (#39)
What exactly does "bleeding from...somewhere" mean then?
#44. To: buckeroo (#11)
Donald Trump says he would ‘love to have Oprah’ Winfrey as his 2016 running mate;
#45. To: Liberator (#3)
Carly Fiorina: "I'm the new rising star Lion-ess of GOP Presidential candidates!"
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry...
#46. To: buckeroo (#43)
Well ... did you see or read his comment, "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes" prior to your later question?
#47. To: TooConservative (#28)
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#49. To: Vicomte13 (#9)
A woman who gets offended by references to menstruation is too much of a pussy to be President.
#50. To: TooConservative (#46)
o where is this "somewhere" that Megan Kelly (much as I dislike her) is bleeding from?
#51. To: nativist nationalist (#49)
(Edited)
Christian women are being sold as sex slaves in the Middle East thanks to her boy Juan McCain's jihad against Assad.
#52. To: Liberator (#24)
ocialist, statist Dem you can hug and squeeze like a long-lost lover.
#53. To: TooConservative (#41)
Let's imagine how that might go. She attacks him for chummy phone calls with Bill Xlinton and for saying he might run third-party. He makes some angry retort about her tenure as HP CEO. She then says something acidic in return and finishes with, "I hope you don't think I'm bleeding from...somewhere like you said about Megan Kelly, you crude buffoon."
#54. To: Vicomte13 (#52)
To bad for me there aren't any "socialist", statist Democrats of power who are pro-life, eh? Cause I'd embrace that candidate too.
#55. To: Liberator (#13)
Who gives a rat's ass?
#56. To: Vicomte13 (#50)
Now Teh Donald says he must investigate whether he has ever said anything offensive. GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump said Friday he can't recall using words such as "dog," ''fat" and "disgusting" to insult women he believes have slighted him, but such language litters his Twitter feed and other public comments he's made for years.
#57. To: nativist nationalist (#49)
Christian women are being sold as sex slaves in the Middle East thanks to her boy Juan McCain's jihad against Assad.
#58. To: nativist nationalist (#55)
#59. To: Liberator (#53)
So IOW, Fiorina is THE perfect GOPe candidate to castrate Trump with impunity.
ONLY because she's a woman.
#60. To: TooConservative (#25)
I think she has prepared for and wants to be the new Palin, an attack dog that can defy the usual War On Women themes.
#61. To: Vicomte13, nativist nationalist (#51)
(Edited)
Christian women have been sold as sex slaves in the MIddle East since the Roman Empire. If we really cared, we would use our massive foreign aid budget to buy all of them and free them.
#62. To: Liberator (#13)
The place is not fixable. You have to move out of this cesspool.
#63. To: Liberator (#24)
Speaking of "Frauds," the only pols YOU support are indeed MAXIMUM Frauds.
#64. To: nativist nationalist (#60)
McCains pitch to the voters was "The illegals are never going home, the jobs are never coming back; and we'll be in Iraq for a hundred years." For some odd reason it did not resonate too well with the voters in 2008.
#65. To: nativist nationalist, Willie Green (#63)
Willie is a big fraud.
#66. To: TooConservative (#59)
[Fiorina] can unleash a lot of attacks no male candidate would dare to make. How better to prove it than by spit-roasting Trump right now, striking while the iron is hot and he made such an elementary error?
#67. To: Liberator (#24)
Based on WHAT info, Yoda? Trump sez our politicians are "stupid liars." Do you disagree with that assessment?
Trump is a businessman... and more so than that, he's a showman, just like PT Barnum... he is well aware of the negative image he generates with his crass/unpresidential attitude... and he does it solely so dupes like you will swallow his act lock, stock & barrel until it's too late for any other option except yet another Bush.
#68. To: TooConservative (#56)
Now Teh Donald says he must investigate whether he has ever said anything offensive.
#69. To: Liberator (#66)
POLITICAlly, it's the perfect timing, and perfect VP candidate. She's auditioning....
#70. To: nativist nationalist (#45)
Carly is just the ticket for cuckservative RINO's. I'm certain the average vter is just itching to have another president who embraces outsourcing of jobs to Red China, importing more cheap labor.
#71. To: Vicomte13 (#68)
What Donald says does not offend me. Therefore, it is not offensive.
#72. To: Liberator (#61)
F we cared....we'd have already marched in DC with torches and pitchforks and cleaned the People's House of blood and its murderous demons.
#73. To: TooConservative (#69)
She'd have to be brain-dead not to jump all over this and ride the storm front of the raging Twitter thunderstorm raining down on Trump.
#74. To: Fred Mertz (#33)
" it wasn't even a debate - the candidates vs candidates?
#75. To: TooConservative (#71)
You're not the average voter these candidates are appealing to (GOP partisans and indy voters).
#76. To: buckeroo (#11)
#77. To: Liberator (#10)
#78. To: Vicomte13 (#9)
#79. To: Liberator (#66)
I'm surprised she didn't wangle an invite to Red State's confab but she probably has fundraisers to attend after her big debate performance.
#80. To: Liberator (#70)
The targeted voters be wearing blinders. Fiorina's past...won't exist after her re-invention.
#81. To: Liberator (#73)
I *knew* Megyn Kelly would be using her debate platform to self-promote AND front for....the Dems. She's an attention-whore.
#82. To: nativist nationalist (#79)
Cuckservative Erick Erikson Disinvites Trump Because He’s Offended On Behalf Of Megyn Kelly. I'm not sure how Tim Groseclose and Scott Lincicome tie in Erick Erikson. I see that Scott Lincicome is a big time free traitor who shills for 0bamatrade, so Trump clearly threatens his rice bowl.
#83. To: Liberator (#4)
#84. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#25)
She is a much better prepared candidate now than she was in her 2010 race or in her role in 2012 as a highly placed Romney surrogate.
#85. To: TooConservative (#0)
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) August 8, 2015
#86. To: redleghunter (#84)
Fiorina
#87. To: Excalibur (#83)
#88. To: TooConservative (#41)
Let's imagine how that might go. She attacks him for chummy phone calls with Bill Xlinton and for saying he might run third-party. He makes some angry retort about her tenure as HP CEO. She then says something acidic in return and finishes with, "I hope you don't think I'm bleeding from...somewhere like you said about Megan Kelly, you crude buffoon."
#89. To: TooConservative (#41)
#90. To: Vicomte13 (#44)
#91. To: redleghunter, nativist nationalist (#77)
We are at only the beginning of the nomination cycle. Kind of has the feel of a new season of WWE. Culminating in the 2016 election akin to Wrestlemania.
#92. To: redleghunter (#89)
The DNC is probably trying to figure out how they got upstaged with the "Trump plan." They probably see Trump in the race as a master stroke of RNC strategery:)
#93. To: TooConservative (#0)
#94. To: TooConservative (#92)
You know they're trying to script up ways to tar the entire GOP with Trump.
#95. To: redleghunter, TooConservative (#89)
I heard they are now delaying their first debate. Wonder is Vasserman Sholtz is looking for a lightening rod:)
#96. To: redleghunter (#84)
Trump was the lightening rod and that allowed other candidates to crack from their shells earlier than we would expect. Except Bush of course who played his cards safe and stuck with the script.
#97. To: Pericles (#94)
Is Trump the tar on the GOP or is the GOP the tar on Trump?
#98. To: Excalibur (#83)
#99. To: nativist nationalist (#45)
#100. To: TooConservative (#97)
I think Trump is actually pretty naive about America generally, probably the worst in either field. Donald Trump's life is all about excluding the 99% entirely.
#101. To: TooConservative (#97)
Trump is just Trump, same as ever. He has always been only about himself.
#102. To: nativist nationalist (#45)
Ruperts RINO babes remind me of the line from the Don Henly song "Dirty Laundry:"
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry...
#103. To: Pericles (#100)
Most party supporters kind of know this. Why? 8 years of Clinton prosperity in contrast to what went on in the Bush 8 years showed - at least subliminally - many Republicans probably had their political "faith" shaken by what happened.
#104. To: TooConservative (#56)
On some occasions Trump appears to have recognized he's gone too far. In April, he retweeted, then deleted, a tweet that read, "If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?"
#105. To: TooConservative (#81)
Certainly, she self-promotes. (Like Trump doesn't?)
#106. To: Pericles (#100)
The GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican.
#107. To: Excalibur (#103)
When Clinton was President the economy was still running on Reagans fumes left in the gas tank. By the time Bush became President the Clinton Stench was already taking hold.
#108. To: Liberator (#101)
Trump has demonstrated in word that he IS in tune with the world -- the 99% -- and not as naive or informed as you'd like to believe.
#109. To: redleghunter (#78)
You still a Trump supporter?
#110. To: redleghunter (#104)
Very crude but an accurate assessment.
#111. To: nativist nationalist (#106)
(Edited)
hey're going the way of the Whigs. The Whigs cucked themselves to the democrats, who wanted cheap labor, and the political advantage. They made a habit of betraying Whig voters, and Whig voters found a new party. That's how the GOP rose, and that why it is falling now. It has ignored the lessons of history, and is now being damned to repeat history. Whatever else; it is nice to see the suffering of RINO's and cuckservatives.
#112. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#110)
Even if true, I don't think America wants a prez that talks like that.
#113. To: Liberator (#105)
I'm sooo glad that Kelly's fortune and stock will rise on the ashes of an America she helped burn to the ground.
#114. To: Pericles, TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#100)
The GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican.
#115. To: Liberator (#101)
trouncing the GOP field in the polls before the GOPe colluded with FOX News to shut him down.
#116. To: Liberator (#114)
Remove abortion from the equation, and these people still remain illogical, self-absorbed, vile, vicious, evil, divisive, covetous, and liars.
#117. To: TooConservative (#110)
Even if true, I don't think America wants a prez that talks like that.
#118. To: nativist nationalist (#108)
Seems like he has established a game plan based upon Angelo Codevilla's "Country Party." GOP thought they could keep selling anti-freeze labeled as wine and never lose market share.
#119. To: Vicomte13 (#115)
He meant NOSE. He bloodied her NOSE.
#120. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, nativist nationalist, Vicomte13 (#104)
His comments on attractive women winning on his show is also accurate. Do you think Meg Kelly would have a plum job at Fox and her time slot if she was smart, accomplished and homely? Not.
#121. To: TooConservative (#81)
A lot of insiders think that she was auditioning to become the main anchor at ABCNNBCBS.
#122. To: TooConservative (#119)
(Edited)
So you think it's fine for a man to talk about giving a woman a bloody nose? Seriously?
#123. To: Vicomte13 (#115)
He's not shut down if the people react to that lynch mob with leaving Fox and telling Megyn Kelly to STFU every time they see her.
#124. To: Vicomte13 (#116)
Remove abortion from the picture, and I see a Democrat party that presses for universal education, health insurance, retirement, and that so far has gotten us Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, the GI Bill, the VA Loan, and weekends.
#125. To: Liberator, TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#114)
e GOP is a failed ideological party. I say this as a former Republican. Failed because the globalist country club cabal throttled the party and divided it into TWO parties. Anyone who not gotten that memo by now is...in a coma.
#126. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#119)
So you think it's fine for a man to talk about giving a woman a bloody nose? Seriously?
#127. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative (#122)
(Edited)
So you think it's fine for a man to talk about giving a woman a bloody nose? Seriously? Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable. You know exactly what he meant.
#128. To: Pericles (#125)
OK, one more time because you don't get the point. Republican conservatives deep down inside have a crisis of faith regarding the economic ideology of the Republican party.
#129. To: Liberator (#128)
(Edited)
An economy, freedom and business atmosphere STILL basking in the policies of Reagan and Poppy Bush. Reagan's policies made the US a powerhouse during the 80s midway thru the 90s. Yes, REAGAN.
#130. To: Vicomte13 (#115)
He meant NOSE. He bloodied her NOSE.
#131. To: Vicomte13 (#72)
#132. To: Liberator (#124)
(Edited)
ome of those items are earned, some designed as a safety net...but NEVER as an ENTITLEMENT. They provide Exibit A is to why the USA is $19 TRILLION in debt; It's just not sustainable. Someone is profiteering, and it ain't the above people. It's lobbyists, those businesses and politicians who've been overcharging on the increased numbers of lazy, parasitic, generation welfare slobs...And those whose pensions for the leftist/socialist cademe and goob drones rake in upwards of $50k+ with Platinum health insurance. bennies. Some retirement bennies start at age 45 or so. Gimme a break.
#133. To: redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#131)
I agree. We need to do more to get Christians in the ME out of that Muslim hell hole.
#134. To: Pericles (#129)
A debtor nation is not an economic power house indicator. That is like saying you are rich because you live off my credit cards.
#135. To: TooConservative, liberator (#81)
And NBC lost Brian Williams and Stephanopoulos at ABC is tainted by his Xlinton connections. So there are obvious openings and Kelly's agent would be well aware of them.
#136. To: TooConservative (#92)
You know they're trying to script up ways to tar the entire GOP with Trump.
#137. To: Pericles (#100)
Why? 8 years of Clinton prosperity
#138. To: redleghunter (#136)
Frankly it's an effective tool for them to do
#139. To: redleghunter (#137)
Yeah all happened after the Contract with America in 1995.
#140. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter, Liberator, Excalibur, sneakypete (#138)
Before, I've said that I would never vote Republican again. Now I will if Trump is the nominee.
#141. To: Liberator, Pericles (#126)
NEWSFLASH: Women start fights, are murderers and assault people too. Sometimes there are consequences. Just sayin'.
DaTech Guy: Megyn Kelly Can Either Assert Women Should Be Protected from the Put-Downs of Boorish Men, Or Equality With Men, But She Can't Assert Both
This has been bothering me... DaTech Guy is on to something here, I think. We keep seeing this same dynamic play out, again and again... and it has to be remembered that Rosie O'Donnell started all that crap with Trump... as for the stuff Trump is alleged to have said of other women -- Kelly provided no context, and so I don't know how to judge those comments
#142. To: Pericles, Excalibur, liberator, GarySpFc, CZ82, tomder55, TooConservative (#107)
In any case, Clinton era economy showed that raising taxes has zero effect on an economy. Gingrich and most Republicans screamed that the raising of taxes would tank the economy and that did not happen. Bush came in and cut taxes and the economy sank regardless.
#143. To: redleghunter (#137)
(Edited)
Why? 8 years of Clinton prosperity Yeah all happened after the Contract with America in 1995.
#144. To: TooConservative (#140)
Which tells us something, about you and about Trump.
#145. To: redleghunter, Excalibur, liberator, GarySpFc, CZ82, tomder55, TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#142)
"'The tax increase will kill jobs and lead to a recession, and the recession will force people out of work and onto unemployment, and actually increase the deficit.' That’s Newt Gingrich in 1993 on the Clinton tax increase."
#146. To: Vicomte13, Liberator (#115)
[Liberator] trouncing the GOP field in the polls before the GOPe colluded with FOX News to shut him down.
#147. To: nolu chan (#146)
#148. To: TooConservative, liberator (#113)
Personally, I would have picked Greta instead.
#149. To: redleghunter (#148)
Self indictment TC?:)
#150. To: redleghunter, Too Conservative (#148)
FNC has been a channel for old men. Horny old men from rural areas who like to watch women read the news in low-cut dresses with a high hemline. : )
#151. To: Vicomte13 (#117)
#152. To: Vicomte13 (#139)
So, the Republicans controlled Congress, and therefore the Republicans are responsible for the Clinton prosperity?
#153. To: Pericles (#143)
#154. To: Pericles (#145)
This prediction did not happen. Clearly the economic theory failed to meet the prediction.
#155. To: redleghunter (#154)
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#156. To: redleghunter (#154)
(Edited)
Also check the time line. Was Newt House speaker in 93? What happened in 94 after the tax increases?
#157. To: Pericles, Vicomte13, redleghunter (#156)
Conservative Twitter Split Over Carly Fiorina’s Support for Megyn Kelly
Carly Fiorina took to Twitter to express her displeasure with Donald Trump‘s post-debate comments about Megyn Kelly‘s incessant “bleeding” on Friday night. Specifically, she said Trump had no excuse, and that she would “stand with Megyn Kelly.” Many across the political spectrum have voiced their support for both Fiorina and Kelly. However, the annals of conservative social media are visibly split on the matter.
#158. To: Pericles (#155)
Either a theory works all the time or it does not. If it does not it is an invalid theory. The Republican theory failed.
#159. To: Pericles (#156)
#160. To: redleghunter (#158)
You did not look at anything I posted. GDP decreased in the succeeding quarters AFTER the tax hike. GDP gained later in the 90s AFTER the contract with America.
#161. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#157)
Of course it wouldn’t be the bat sh*t-crazy end of Twitter without at least one conspiracy theorist in the mix:
#162. To: redleghunter (#159)
So the tax cuts proposed and signed into law after the contract with America did not contribute to growth?
#163. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, Vicomte13, GarySpFc, liberator, CZ82, tomder55 (#161)
Of course it wouldn’t be the bat sh*t-crazy end of Twitter without at least one conspiracy theorist in the mix: @CarlyFiorina @megynkelly Trump is a plant by the Clinton’s to ensure Hillary wins. He’ll run 3rd party and hand her the White House.
#164. To: TooConservative (#157)
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#165. To: Pericles (#162)
One again, why did the tax cuts of Bush fail to keep the economy booming and why did Clinton's tax increase not destroy prosperity?
#166. To: TooConservative (#0)
#167. To: Pericles, TooConservative, liberator (#163)
If the Clintons are that smart and Machiavellian than they deserve the White House. I say this as a Clinton hater.
#168. To: TooConservative (#157)
#169. To: redleghunter (#161)
After how most of the GOPe came after Trump, I would not be surprised if he flips them off now and start his 3rd party run. He knows how long that will take to do.
#170. To: A K A Stone (#164)
Start at about 4 minutes asshat.
#171. To: A K A Stone (#166)
So Ericson invites the homo activist Megan Kelly to speak.
#172. To: TooConservative (#170)
#173. To: A K A Stone (#166)
So Ericson invites the homo activist Megan Kelly to speak.
#174. To: TooConservative (#171)
Trump might want to think twice about bashing up Erickson
#175. To: TooConservative (#171)
I thought it was funny when Erickson tweeted, "I paid for that microphone and this is my show."
#176. To: A K A Stone (#172)
I knew you were to much of a pussy to see what he said. I guess you don't want the tr the truth. You'd rather bend over and take it up the ass from Bush then Rubio then C then Christie then Perry then Hillary.
#177. To: A K A Stone (#174)
Trump won the first debate and he will continue to win.
#178. To: A K A Stone (#172)
You're a whore.
#179. To: nativist nationalist (#176)
Carly Fiorina's McCain tried to sell "The illegals are never going home, the jobs are never coming back; and we'll be in Iraq for 100 years;" and was unable to close the deal with Main Street.
#180. To: TooConservative (#0)
Update: Fiorina to Trump: “There. Is. No. Excuse.”
#181. To: TooConservative (#178)
Do you honestly think you're engaging in a conversation when you say things like that?
#182. To: redleghunter (#165)
Because Bush did not decrease spending.
#183. To: GarySpFC (#20)
This broad Fiorina is a hologram. A fake. Wolf in sheeps' clothing. A hedge for Jeb. A totally manufactured candidate who is OBVIOUSLY following a script.
#184. To: TooConservative (#179)
Fiorina wasn't even a marginal player in 2008.
#185. To: Pericles (#182)
The point is the tax increase under Clinton did not send the economy into recession as prophesied.
#186. To: A K A Stone (#181)
I'd rather insult you and call you names. Because you shill for GOPe.
#187. To: redleghunter (#161)
After how most of the GOPe came after Trump, I would not be surprised if he flips them off now and start his 3rd party run. He knows how long that will take to do.
#188. To: Liberator (#27)
Her NEW image, her NEW words of NEW wisdom are scripted and manufactured. Don't be fooled into buying the Fiorina Fenomenena. Yes, she sounds good...TOO good. Where's she been all this time??
#189. To: nativist nationalist (#185)
#190. To: Vicomte13 (#189)
Carly Fiorina was a crappy CEO.
#191. To: TooConservative (#178)
You're a whore.
#192. To: A K A Stone (#190)
I just read a few minutes ago that you liked her.
#193. To: TooConservative (#179)
I've never voted for the Stain. Can you say the same?
#194. To: Vicomte13 (#192)
She coulda been a contender, but she took the wrong side and I no longer give politicians the benefit of the doubt. Especially when they attack somebody I like.
#195. To: TooConservative (#171)
I thought it was funny when Erickson tweeted, "I paid for that microphone and this is my show."
#196. To: Vicomte13 (#189)
Carly Fiorina was a crappy CEO. If she failed at running a company, she's certainly not going to do better running a country.
#197. To: Vicomte13 (#195)
I hope it's a sensitive microphone, then, so we can all hear the crickets.
#198. To: nativist nationalist (#196)
(Edited)
HP tossed her out.
#199. To: Pericles (#182)
The point is the tax increase under Clinton did not send the economy into recession as prophesied.
#200. To: redleghunter (#199)
The point is the tax increase under Clinton did not send the economy into recession as prophesied. The counter point is that is because the GOP Congress did not allow him to raise the taxes higher and expand government spending.
#201. To: Vicomte13 (#189)
W Bush was an incompetent businessman.
#202. To: redleghunter (#201)
Would have to check his position on abortion but probably know where he stands on that as he is Catholic.
#203. To: A K A Stone (#168)
Among those who agree with Cohen about the tenor of questioning is … Trump nemesis Lindsey Graham? Huh?
#204. To: Pericles (#200)
That is bullshit and all over the place. Not only did you get your facts wrong about GDP and when the tax cut happened vs the contract with America - contract which was bullshit per the CATO institute no less.
#205. To: Vicomte13 (#202)
#206. To: Pericles (#133)
Bush's presidency was a disaster.
#207. To: redleghunter (#206)
(Edited)
Bush's presidency was a disaster.
#208. To: redleghunter (#204)
(Edited)
Then explain to me in economic terms how a tax increase fueled an increase in GDP and the associated monetary policy?
#209. To: Vicomte13 (#193)
I campaigned for him in 2000. I couldn't bring myself to vote for him by 2008, so I voted for Palin.
#210. To: nolu chan (#203)
“At the end of the day, ask the man a question that explains his position and his solutions rather than a ten-minute question that describes him as the biggest bastard on the planet,” Graham quipped.
#211. To: nolu chan (#203)
#212. To: TooConservative (#210)
It's nonsense. Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him.
#213. To: A K A Stone (#212)
#214. To: TooConservative (#213)
And after Trump flames out, we'll all get the same line of "inevitability" from the Bush camp. In fact, Trump's presence in the race is helping Bush to secure the nomination and keeping alternatives to Bush from getting money and campaign attention.
#215. To: TooConservative (#213)
And after Trump flames out
#216. To: A K A Stone (#215)
You've cried wolf to many times to be taken seriously.
#217. To: TooConservative (#216)
I'm patient. Teh Donald already has (or soon will) pull the pin and then jump on his own grenade.
#218. To: A K A Stone (#217)
(Edited)
It really is that simple. I like him. I like his F U attitude towards as assholes.
#219. To: buckeroo (#218)
Trump is an arrogant snob. He would otherwise be cleaning latrines in some business sector building if it wasn't for his daddy.
#220. To: A K A Stone (#217)
Here is why I say you are clueless. You don't understand how pissed people are at the government.
#221. To: A K A Stone (#219)
He did have a good father. Who taught him well. So well that he surpassed his father father.
#222. To: TooConservative (#221)
gave him a rundown slum property
#223. To: A K A Stone (#219)
I guess you support ...
#224. To: TooConservative (#221)
I doubt Trump has ever spent any time with anyone who isn't at least a millionaire.
#225. To: buckeroo (#223)
Your assumptions
#226. To: A K A Stone (#222)
Tell me about 5 of the houses he rented out. Tell me for how much and I want pictures of the houses and the insides. Otherwise you are just lying again.
#227. To: A K A Stone (#224)
Who cares what you doubt. Tell us what you know.
#228. To: A K A Stone (#225)
You criticized that Trumps father left him an inheritance.
#229. To: buckeroo (#228)
He would be cleaning latrines
#230. To: TooConservative, nolu chan (#226)
#231. To: A K A Stone (#229)
No he is to smart for that.
#232. To: buckeroo (#231)
All he can influence are "silly little wipers of other people' bottoms," to quote Monty Python.
#233. To: Fred Mertz (#232)
I'm surprised that so many lower middle class folks fall for his PT Barnum act; Stone included.
#234. To: buckeroo (#233)
#235. To: Fred Mertz (#234)
Unfortunately, no. A handful might fill the role of figure head, but not a true leader IMO.
#236. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#230)
Trump began his career at his father's real estate company, Elizabeth Trump and Son, which focused on middle-class rental housing in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. One of Trump's first projects, while he was still in college, was the revitalization of the foreclosed Swifton Village apartment complex in Cincinnati, Ohio, which his father had purchased for $5.7 million in 1962. The Trumps became involved in the project and with a $500,000 investment, turned the 1,200-unit complex with a 66 percent vacancy rate to 100 percent occupancy within two years. In 1972, the Trump Organization sold Swifton Village for $6.75 million. Donald's involvement with the project was to perform some landscaping and menial labor.
In 1920 at age 15, Trump went into the real estate development and construction business, forming Elizabeth Trump & Son Co. with his mother, who was an active partner, writing the checks. Their success allowed him to send his younger brother John George Trump (1907-1985) to Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute, then to Columbia University for his master's, and to Massachusetts Institute of Technology for his Ph.D. After attempting to work together, building a couple of houses together, John switched to electrical engineering, going on to partner with Robert J. Van de Graaff and build one of the first million-volt X-ray generators.
#237. To: rlk, sneakypete (#188)
(Where's she [Fiorina] been all this time?)
#238. To: Liberator (#237)
Best of all -- now (phew!!) the GOP has a woman in their race, proving that it's not the establishment Republicans that hate women -- only the kooky, newbie conservative wing.
#239. To: TooConservative (#210)
Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him.
#240. To: TooConservative (#210)
It's nonsense. Trump doesn't even have a campaign now that Roger Stone has left him.
#241. To: TooConservative (#238)
You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test.
#242. To: nolu chan, TooConservative (#240)
At this stage, no one can rationally deny that Trump not only has a campaign, he is leading by double digits, and the GOPe candidates are all in single digits.
#243. To: rlk, Liberator (#188)
Where's she [Fiorina] been all this time?
#244. To: TooConservative, Liberator (#238)
He probably feels he has nothing left to lose now.
#245. To: Liberator (#242)
#246. To: nolu chan (#245)
It appears that once again, predictions of his political death have been premature.
#247. To: Liberator, rlk, sneakypete (#237)
She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly.
#248. To: buckeroo (#246)
Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan. That was a silly comment. The nation tightens the political field just a day before an election not a year and half before an election.
#249. To: nolu chan (#248)
#250. To: Liberator (#242)
Scientific Poll, NBC/Survey Monkey, August 7-8, ± 3.4%
#251. To: nolu chan (#247)
She is the GOPe designated hitter because she can do it without the party being labeled as sexist. She would be a good fit for the GOPe ticket's VP attack dog slot.
#252. To: Liberator (#241)
After all his assets are only around $10 billion. And everyone has abandoned him. Oh wait -- you're...serious?? Oh, ok.
Because of Donald Trump. He was the SOLE reason FOX News' narcissists drew 24 million to a debate that normally draws 3 million.
#253. To: nolu chan (#244)
Well, he does have that 10B in assets and Melania, and he is crushing in the polls.
#254. To: Liberator (#237)
(Edited)
I don't even doubt that her PTB-GOPe handlers believe they've found their new "star." She apparently passed the audition with flying colors when she lectured the "Neanderthal" Trump while siding with innocent, delicate flower, Megyn Kelly.
#255. To: TooConservative (#238)
You Trumpsters, following Teh Donald's lead, have made Megyn Kelly the litmus test.
#256. To: Liberator (#239)
(Edited)
Suddenly ALL those who support and will support President Trump
#257. To: sneakypete (#256)
Let me ask you this,do you REALLY think a power mad control freak like Trump will turn all his business dealings over to be managed by a blind trust for 4 years if he is elected?
#258. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#256)
Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants ...
#259. To: nolu chan (#244)
Well, he does have that 10B in assets
#260. To: TooConservative (#250)
I also recall the complete failure of polling in both the British and Israeli elections in the last year.
#261. To: TooConservative (#251)
She has a chance at the VP nod if they think her role as attack dog on Hillary!
#262. To: sneakypete (#255)
Face it,this shithead is Perot without the charm,intelligence,and business experience.
#263. To: buckeroo (#258)
He could start with a new coiffure sylist.
#264. To: TooConservative (#263)
#265. To: A K A Stone (#219)
You really don't have a clue or any solutions. You just whine a lot.
#266. To: TooConservative (#252)
Forbes says an honest assessment is more like half of that, about $5 billion.
#267. To: TooConservative (#253)
Trump doesn't have the nomination yet. In fact, there is considerable history of the big early frontrunner totally imploding or losing to somebody that no one expected to get anywhere close to the nomination.
#268. To: Fred Mertz (#257)
Very astute question petey. I hadn't thought of that.
#269. To: sneakypete (#266)
In his entire life all he has accomplished is buying existing companies,putting his name on them,and then driving them into bankruptcy while skipping away with the investors money.
#270. To: buckeroo (#258)
Trump will merely audition and hire THE best consultants ...
#271. To: TooConservative (#221)
Trump's father was one of the biggest slumlords in NYC. As a major real estate mogul, he wielded substantial political power as well.
#272. To: sneakypete (#267)
The INSTANT he begins to suspect he's not going to win the nomination he is going to drop out and claim he is quitting because "The Republicans are all losers,and I don't want to be associated with losers."
#273. To: TooConservative (#262)
But he has an insatiable need for public validation of him as a great man. He is more emotionally needy than most puppies. It could just be that his personality is driven to do this, now, finally, before it's too late. He's already pretty old so this is his last chance to make some big public splash.
#274. To: nativist nationalist (#271)
JEB's bankster grandfather helped to finance the Nazi party.
#275. To: sneakypete (#273)
Being a "winner" is as important to him as oxygen.
#276. To: buckeroo (#264)
ROTFL
#277. To: TooConservative (#276)
#278. To: nolu chan (#236)
The Trumps became involved in the project and with a $500,000 investment, turned the 1,200-unit complex with a 66 percent vacancy rate to 100 percent occupancy within two years. In 1972, the Trump Organization sold Swifton Village for $6.75 million. Donald's involvement with the project was to perform some landscaping and menial labor.
#279. To: nolu chan, A K A Stone, TooConservative, sneakypete (#236)
In 1971, [Donald] Trump moved to Manhattan and became involved in larger building projects and used attractive architectural design to win public recognition. He made plans to acquire and develop the old Penn Central for $60 million with no money down. Later, with the help of a 40-year tax abatement from the New York City government, he turned the bankrupt Commodore Hotel into the Grand Hyatt and created The Trump Organization.
#280. To: nativist nationalist (#271)
JEB's bankster grandfather helped to finance the Nazi party.
#281. To: TooConservative (#272)
Recall Warren Buffet and how his public pleas to "please raise my income taxes that I never pay and will never pay" and suddenly Buffet's BN railway has another decade of transcontinental oil transport contracts with no competition from some nasty Keystone Pipeline. Very lucrative for old Warren.
#282. To: nolu chan (#243)
In comparison to other Republicans in California, her Senate election result was not all that bad. There are few Republican success stories in California.
#283. To: Liberator (#278)
Trump's dad was quite the entrepreneur. His was also the type background that a son could look back on with pride of and for his family. That translates into an appreciation of America at its middle class roots:
#284. To: nolu chan, TooConservative, sneakypete (#244)
He does have that 10B in assets and Melania, and he is crushing in the polls.
#285. To: Liberator (#279)
A bit different than how Hitlery's fortune was made; OR, the Kenyan in Chief. Or the Bushes. OR the entire elite political class.
#286. To: sneakypete (#283)
Yup! If there is one thing slum lords love as much as money,it's middle-class Americans!
#287. To: Liberator (#286)
I'm detecting a smidgeon of CLASS ENVY. Actually a whole lot of petty jealousy.
#288. To: sneakypete (#285)
No,identical. It was all made from making deals with the government for tax breaks and low or no interest loans. You even point that out yourself in the quote.
#289. To: Liberator (#288)
Because I'm obvious not shorting, sniffing, popping, guzzling whatever *you're* on.
#290. To: nolu chan (#245)
(Edited)
It appears that once again, predictions of his political death have been premature.
Carson: Doctor
Cruz: Senator, but highly despised and dismissed by the MSM and Establishment Republicans and Democrats.
#291. To: sneakypete (#289)
(Edited)
#292. To: buckeroo, nolu chan (#246)
Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan.
#293. To: nolu chan (#247)
She passed her audition months ago when she went after Hillary. She is the GOPe designated hitter because she can do it without the party being labeled as sexist. She would be a good fit for the GOPe ticket's VP attack dog slot.
#294. To: Liberator (#292)
And as a matter of fact, poll numbers were the criteria used for participation in the main debate.
#295. To: TooConservative (#250)
Yeah, Survey Monkey sounds like a real top outfit. ‹/sarcasm›
#296. To: Liberator (#293)
Fiorina's main qualifications as VP: Female Attack Dog.
#297. To: buckeroo (#294)
#298. To: rlk (#296)
A former CEO who had to be fired because she [Fiorina] was running the company into the ground.
#299. To: TooConservative (#251)
I kinda assume the nominee will be either Bush or Walker.
#300. To: TooConservative (#252)
Forbes says an honest assessment is more like half of that, about $5 billion. And his liquid assets appear in the range of $300M. Other reporting is to take Trump's 10 billion, cut it in half, then cut in quarters...
#301. To: Liberator (#297)
What's giving many hope (for the time being) is that a non-politician MIGHT steal the Presidency from the elites. Whatssa mattah -- don't believe that would make any difference?
#302. To: Liberator (#241)
The media and Megyn Kelly have been exposed as being shills for the Establishment Republican cartel
#303. To: nativist nationalist, TooConservative (#302)
#304. To: Liberator (#291)
No matter WHAT you believe, the Trumps BUILT stuff
#305. To: Liberator (#297)
What's giving many hope (for the time being) is that a non-politician MIGHT steal the Presidency from the elites.
#306. To: sneakypete (#304)
What hss [sic] "The Donald" built?
#307. To: Liberator (#298)
An AA CEO no less...
#308. To: buckeroo, Liberator (#301)
What does the idiot stand for?
#309. To: sneakypete (#308)
#310. To: buckeroo (#306)
What hss [sic] "The Donald" built?
#311. To: buckeroo (#309)
You mean Trump doesn't stand for us wee little people?
#312. To: sneakypete (#310)
He just gets a cut for showing up and for letting them use his name.
#313. To: sneakypete (#281)
We all know that if there is one thing Billionaires LOVE it's losing money,right?
#314. To: Liberator (#299)
Ok -- at least Walker has some legit creds.
#315. To: Liberator (#300)
Slice and dice it up anyway you want -- the equation doesn't change. Trump CAN finance his own campaign without bending over as a two-bit whore for China, the Saudis, or Commie Inc.
#316. To: buckeroo (#312)
He shows up because his hairdo is magnificant; he is almost a GOD in his own sake for the amazing coiffure that no one else can immitate.
#317. To: sneakypete (#316)
That's true,and I am sure he has a half-dozen or more people hired to remind of that several times a day.
Donald Trump: I will say this, I was attacked by the people that you talk about. When you mention a couple of those names, I was attacked viciously by those people. I don’t mean a little bit, I mean viciously. When I am attacked, I fight back, but I was attacked viciously by those women. Of course it is very hard for them to attack me on looks because I’m so good-looking. But I was attacked very viciously by those women, and frankly, again we get back to the words ‘political correctness.’ Am I allowed to defend myself?
#318. To: buckeroo (#246)
Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan.
#319. To: TooConservative, Gatlin (#317)
Of course it is very hard for them to attack me on looks because I’m so good-looking.
#320. To: TooConservative (#251)
If the nominee is Kasich, she'd be a good pick. Or Rubio to help in FL.
#321. To: sneakypete (#259)
A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion.
#322. To: A K A Stone (#319)
Of course it is very hard for them to attack me on looks because I’m so good-looking.
#323. To: nolu chan (#320)
I still doubt Hillary will be the Dem nominee.
#324. To: nativist nationalist (#271)
JEB's bankster grandfather helped to finance the Nazi party.
In 1901, Bush returned to Columbus to be General Manager of Buckeye Steel Castings Company, which manufactured railway parts. The company was run by Frank Rockefeller, the brother of oil magnate John D. Rockefeller, and among its clients were the railroads controlled by E. H. Harriman. The Bush and Harriman families would be closely associated at least until the end of World War II. In 1908, Rockefeller retired and Bush became president of Buckeye, a position he would hold until 1927, becoming one of the top industrialists of his generation.
#325. To: nolu chan (#321)
A financial magazine a couple of weeks ago put his actual net assets at between 2 and 3 billion.
#326. To: sneakypete (#325)
You know Trump is lying if his lips are moving.
#327. To: A K A Stone (#326)
Trumps words moved and he said he wouldn't run third party if he won the nomination. You called that a lie. Which shows you are quite the fool
#328. To: sneakypete, Liberator (#289)
Or maybe you think NYC gives 40 YEAR tax exemptions to everyone building rental housing?
The Commodore Hotel, right next door to Grand Central Station, is still there, although you’d never recognize it today. The black glass Grand Hyatt New York is actually the Commodore, rebuilt by Donald Trump.
#329. To: Liberator (#290)
The Top Three represent giving the Finger to business/politics as usual, and complete rejection of the usual fake choices. The jig is up. Trump will be declared "dead and buried" two years into his Presidency.
Republican Assault on Trump May Only Make Him Stronger
Rolling Stone
August 7, 2015
#330. To: TooConservative, Liberator (#250)
Yeah, Survey Monkey sounds like a real top outfit. ‹/sarcasm›
#331. To: sneakypete (#325)
Trump’s Triumph: Billionaire Blowhard Exposes Fake Political System
August 7, 2015
Counterpunch FOX News Brett Baier (talking to Trump): Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren’t you for it now?
#332. To: sneakypete (#325)
And the magazine's guess would be better than Trump's... why?
#333. To: nolu chan (#320)
If the GOPe puts someone at the top of the ticket who is not clearly committed to doing something about illegal immigrants, the GOP will lose.
#334. To: nolu chan (#328)
The former Commodore Hotel, now the four-star Grand Hyatt is hardly rental housing.
#335. To: A K A Stone (#326)
Trumps words moved and he said he wouldn't run third party if he won the nomination. You called that a lie. Which shows you are quite the fool
#336. To: nolu chan (#331)
(Edited)
There it is, two glorious minutes of pure, unalloyed truth on national television. How often does that happen?
#337. To: nolu chan (#330)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey
SurveyMonkey is an online survey[6] development cloud-based ("software as a service") company, founded in 1999 by Ryan Finley. SurveyMonkey provides free, customizable surveys, as well as a suite of paid back-end programs that include data analysis, sample selection, bias elimination, and data representation tools.[7] In addition to providing free and paid plans for individual users, SurveyMonkey offers more large-scale enterprise options for companies interested in data analysis, brand management, and consumer-focused marketing.[8] Since releasing its enterprise in 2013, business-focused services, SurveyMonkey has grown dramatically, opening a new headquarters in downtown Palo Alto.[4]
#338. To: nolu chan (#332)
Because they not only sift through public records to determine net worth,but they also have no reason to lie about it.
#339. To: redleghunter (#142)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#340. To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#331)
How often does a fatcat billionaire-insider appear on TV and announce that the whole system is a big-fat scam run by crooks and patsies?
#341. To: CZ82, redleghunter, Pericles (#339)
...the economy went to schitt, and it will be a Republicans fault somehow...
#342. To: TooConservative, nolu chan (#333)
("If the GOPe puts someone at the top of the ticket who is not clearly committed to doing something about illegal immigrants, the GOP will lose.")
#343. To: sneakypete, nolu chan (#334)
The former Commodore Hotel, now the four-star Grand Hyatt is hardly rental housing.
#344. To: nolu chan (#329)
I wouldn't jump that far ahead [on a Trump Presidency].
#345. To: sneakypete, nolu chan, rlk, Vicomte13, A K A Stone, CZ82, redleghunter, TooConservative (#338)
(Edited)
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention?
#346. To: nolu chan, TooConservative (#330)
Yeah, Survey Monkey sounds like a real top outfit. ‹/sarcasm›
#347. To: Liberator (#346)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey
#348. To: CZ82 (#339)
#349. To: Liberator, CZ82 (#341)
Commies are NEVER at fault for destroying capitalism. *snicker*
#350. To: Liberator, sneakypete, nolu chan, rlk, Vicomte13, A K A Stone, CZ82 (#345)
Set aside you hatred of Trump for a moment and look at THE BIG PICTURE. Because of Donald Trump's dangerous, personally risky honesty, you've, we've all just witnessed the biggest scandal in political history. The elites' door was kicked in.
#351. To: redleghunter (#350)
It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats by having so many primary candidates. Seems not everything is going to plan and that upsets the apple cart some.
#352. To: Liberator (#345)
Set aside you hatred of Trump for a moment and look at THE BIG PICTURE.
#353. To: redleghunter (#350)
It seems there was some grand plan to shove a GOPe candidate down our throats
#354. To: sneakypete (#353)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed.
#355. To: redleghunter (#350)
It is quite comical to watch professional narcissists go at it. Especially when they don't realize they are narcissists:)
#356. To: sneakypete (#353)
I think the Country Club Republicans that own the RNC and the Dims were hoping for Lady Lindsey to get the nomination. It's the alleged Republicans "turn" to occupy the WH,and Lady Lindsey is someone they can all do business with because he's a in the closet homo,and can be blackmailed.
#357. To: redleghunter (#354)
No one likes Lady Lindsey.
#358. To: TooConservative (#356)
And why didn't the Dims blackmail him when he served as the House's prosecutor in impeaching Bill Clinton after the Starr report was submitted?
#359. To: sneakypete (#358)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't.
#360. To: TooConservative (#359)
Probably because they didn't have to ,and he would be more useful in the future if they didn't.
#361. To: sneakypete (#338)
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to claim Trump is more trustworthy when talking about his wealth than anyone else you could mention?
On Wednesday, Trump filed his financial disclosure forms. His campaign said Trump’s net worth exceeds $10 billion. They used capital letters.
#362. To: sneakypete (#336)
How many of them are stupid enough to admit they are one of the crooks gaming the system?
#363. To: Liberator (#341)
But I WILL say that the GOPe ARE responsible for growing a gubmint leviathan.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#364. To: Liberator (#345)
Trump JUST exposed AND CONFIRMED the entire GOP-Dem system as rigged 100%, revealed politicians are ONLY whores-for-hire, WHILE exposing the collusion of the Media, the Dems, AND Establishment GOP...
??? “Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#365. To: nolu chan (#361)
It appears to be somewhere between $125M and $10B.
#366. To: redleghunter (#350)
It is quite comical to watch professional narcissists go at it. Especially when they don't realize they are narcissists:)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#367. To: redleghunter (#350)
I have to agree that some 'light' was shed on the whole corrupt collusion (party elites and media). I don't think Trump meant for that to happen.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#368. To: redleghunter (#350)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#369. To: rlk (#355)
People with IQs 85 are now convinced they are geniuses and are entitled to according entitlements.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#370. To: TooConservative, Liberator (#347)
You realize this is largely self-selected online polling? Not real polling
Pew Research Center study of non-probability sampling
#371. To: redleghunter (#354)
A bad bet and poor strategy if true on their part.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#372. To: TooConservative (#365)
(Edited)
#373. To: TooConservative, sneakypete (#365)
It appears to be somewhere between $125M and $10B.
Very brave of you to way out on a limb like that. : )
#374. To: nolu chan (#373)
Adding Pete's figure, and Trump's figure, it is either $125M, $2B, $3B, $4.1B, $4.5B, or $10B.
#375. To: nolu chan, Too Conservative, sneakypete (#373)
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#376. To: nolu chan (#361)
Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that some magazine you can't identify has better information about Trump's finances that Trump?
#377. To: CZ82 (#371)
But you have to remember they think "ALL" the voters are stupid...
#378. To: nolu chan (#373)
Critics would like to value the Trump brand at $0. Trump would like to value it at a few billion.
#379. To: sneakypete, nolu chan, redleghunter, A K A Stone (#378)
I think he is trying to increase it's worth by running for President.
#380. To: sneakypete (#378)
Trump has claimed his brand is worth $4 Billion.
#381. To: TooConservative (#374)
As far as running and self-funding a billion dollar campaign (or assuming his huge 98% name recognition is worth half that amount alone as far as running for prez), what are Trump's actual liquid assets? I've read $300-$400 million.
#382. To: sneakypete (#376)
No,I am saying it is impossible for Trump to tell the truth about his money.
#383. To: nolu chan (#381)
You just keep holding out for Trump running out of liquid assets or credit.
#384. To: nolu chan (#382)
By a conservative estimate, he has a shitload of money.
#385. To: sneakypete (#378)
Trump has claimed his brand is worth $4 Billion.
Below we break down what Trump says he is worth v. what we at Forbes estimate he is truly worth. The major difference: his brand. Trump claims that his brand and brand-related deals are worth some $3.3 billion. We value his brand at just $125 million; we give him another $128 million in management fees for Trump-branded hotels. Another major discrepancy is golf courses: Trump has been advocating for a valuation for his chain of American golf courses as high as $800 million. Independent valuation experts tell us our figure of $200 million is much closer to the mark. The other difference is properties under development. Trump claims nearly $300 million here; we don’t give properties full build-out value until they’re actually fully built and running.
#386. To: TooConservative (#383)
You really think Trump would take on debt to run for prez?
#387. To: TooConservative (#384)
Yeah but he isn't building a real campaign organization.
#388. To: TooConservative (#384)
Some experts think that if Perot had made an effort with another $50-$100 million, he would have won the presidency.
#389. To: nolu chan (#386)
You really think he will run out of money?
#390. To: nolu chan, tooconservative (#388)
Some experts think that if Perot had made an effort with another $50-$100 million, he would have won the presidency.
#391. To: nolu chan (#382)
By a conservative estimate, he has a shitload of money.
#392. To: nolu chan (#387)
With no real campaign organization he is leading.
#393. To: nolu chan (#388)
Some experts, so called, thought Trump's campaign would crater after he said becoming a POW was not heroic.
#394. To: nolu chan (#318)
buckeroo: Polls don't mean "diddly-squat" in this country, chan.
#395. To: TooConservative (#379)
#396. To: TooConservative (#389)
I doubt he can (or will be willing to) try to outspend the Adelsons, the Kochs, the Marriotts and all the other tycoons that will be funding the GOP race.
#397. To: sneakypete (#392)
Once/if he even gets backed into a corner and has to talk about the nuts and bolts of policy decisions,he's done.
#398. To: sneakypete (#393)
It should have.
#399. To: buckeroo (#394)
Yeah, about 60 BILLIONAIRES in the USA and the leadership in Israel to donate millions to their selected candidate.
#400. To: sneakypete (#393)
Draft dodgers have no standing to comment on anyone else's courage or lack of it.
#401. To: TooConservative (#389)
#402. To: A K A Stone (#401)
“Donald Trump had a rally in Phoenix, Ariz. [to which] between 10 and 20 thousand people came out. When you attack and vilify the people at that rally as crazies, it does nothing to help Republicans win in 2016. I’d like every single person at that rally to show up and vote in 2016, knock on doors with energy and passion, and turn this country around. If Washington politicians show contempt and condescension to those [voters,] that is a path to losing at the ballot box.”
#403. To: nolu chan (#396)
Gee, how much money will it cost to sell another Bush?
#404. To: A K A Stone (#401)
“I would … note that an awful lot of Republicans, including other Republican candidates, have gone out of their way to smack Donald Trump with a stick. Now I think that’s just foolish,” he said.
#405. To: sneakypete (#377)
I have talked with people that admitted to voting for Boy Jorge because they thought they were voting for his father,which is another mystery.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#406. To: sneakypete (#377)
have also gotten into arguments with people who REMEMBER Nixon going to prison for breaking into the Watergate complex, and they also remember him starting the VN war.
“Let me see which pig "DON'T" I want to vote for, the one with or without lipstick??" Hmmmmm...
#407. To: nolu chan (#399)
They want return on investment.
#408. To: nolu chan (#398)
(Edited)
It should have.
#409. To: A K A Stone (#400)
Draft dodgers have no standing to comment on anyone else's courage or lack of it.
#410. To: CZ82 (#405)
I have talked with people that admitted to voting for Boy Jorge because they thought they were voting for his father,which is another mystery.
#411. To: sneakypete (#409)
Were you a draft-dodger too?
#412. To: sneakypete (#408)
You are full of crap on this one. Anyone that purposely exposes themselves to enemy fire over and over qualifies as a hero.
#413. To: sneakypete (#408)
Anyone that purposely exposes themselves to enemy fire over and over qualifies as a hero.
Have much 12.7mm,20mm,and 37mm anti-aircraft fire have YOU exposed yourself to,not to mention SAM missiles?
#414. To: sneakypete (#408)
you have no standing to judge his courage,and that goes double if you were a draft-dodger like Trump.
#415. To: sneakypete (#408)
#416. To: A K A Stone (#411)
Were you a draft-dodger too?
#417. To: buckeroo (#407)
You might think that with 320 million American citizens, we might have a few more presidential nominees than Jeb!,Hillary! and Trump! wouldn't you?
#418. To: A K A Stone (#412)
You are full of crap on this one. Anyone that purposely exposes themselves to enemy fire over and over qualifies as a hero.
#419. To: sneakypete (#416)
he 13th amendment talks about involuntary servitude. If you take the words to mean what they say without lawyer spin it forbids it.
#420. To: nolu chan (#413)
Much of the Army and Marines do that. That does not make them all heroes.
#421. To: nolu chan (#417)
(Edited)
We only have two parties that matter, and they have the same sponsors.
#422. To: sneakypete (#418)
Your ignorance is stunning.
#423. To: A K A Stone (#412)
You are full of crap on this one. Anyone that purposely exposes themselves to enemy fire over and over qualifies as a hero.
#424. To: nolu chan (#414)
If I were a draft dodger I would not be retired military. nolu chan, USN, Ret.
#425. To: sneakypete (#423)
You woldn't [sic] know this because you never served,and you don't even really care about it
#426. To: sneakypete (#423)
#427. To: sneakypete (#424)
#428. To: A K A Stone (#415)
I'll add this. John McCain served honorably.
#429. To: nolu chan (#417)
We only have two parties that matter,
#430. To: sneakypete (#428)
I'll add this. John McCain served honorably. Actually,he didn't.
#431. To: A K A Stone (#430)
#432. To: Fred Mertz (#431)
#433. To: A K A Stone (#419)
I'm just commenting on what I honestly to believe the text of the 13th amendment to say.
#434. To: A K A Stone (#425)
How do you know what I care about? You don't.
#435. To: sneakypete (#433)
Don't forget that the people who wrote and passed the Bill of Rights were also the very same people who said every American male over the age of 17 and under the age of 45 (?) is a member of the militia and subject to be called to active duty.
#436. To: A K A Stone (#427)
I'd also like to apologize to you a while back when I said you only served because you wanted to kill people. That was wrong. I'm sorry.
#437. To: A K A Stone (#430)
Now you are telling us that people who don't serve honorably are heroes.
#438. To: sneakypete (#437)
#439. To: A K A Stone (#435)
I'm a literalist on words in the constitution. I want them literally obeyed. Not some lawyer twisting of words. That is why my position is what it is.
#440. To: sneakypete (#439)
#441. To: A K A Stone (#440)
If they tried to draft me for Iraq I would have a problem with that.
#442. To: sneakypete (#420)
What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero.
“He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
#443. To: sneakypete (#424)
If I were a draft dodger I would not be retired military. nolu chan, USN, Ret.
#444. To: nolu chan (#442)
What Trump said, in quotes: What trump said was that getting captured did not make McCain a hero.
#445. To: nolu chan (#443)
Not claiming to have seen combat can be added to my not claiming to be a lawyer.
#446. To: sneakypete (#444)
[nolu chan #442]Nice spin. He essentially said what I claimed,and the spin was "being captured doesn't make you a hero."
[A K A Stone #415] I'll add this. John McCain served honorably.
#447. To: sneakypete (#445)
People like you and Trump talking about who are heroes and who aren't remind me of virgins talking about sex. Lots of theories,but you don't really have a clue about the reality you are making judgement calls about.
#448. To: sneakypete (#444)
No,what makes you a hero is purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed
#449. To: Hero A K A Stone, sneakypete (#448)
I sometimes work on high places. I could fall and hurt myself.
#450. To: nolu chan (#446)
It would appear that the Army defines Navy heroes with their own unique definition not shared by the Navy.
#451. To: nolu chan (#447)
People like you making judgments for Navy standards of heroes, or flight deck operations, and asserting at once that someone gave aid and comfort to the enemy and is a hero -- I'm underwhelmed.
#452. To: A K A Stone (#448)
Am I a hero. I sometimes work on high places. I could fall and hurt myself.
#453. To: sneakypete (#444)
(Edited)
No,what makes you a hero is purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy.
#454. To: sneakypete (#450)
It would also appear that you are full of shit.
#428. To: A K A Stone (#415)
I'll add this. John McCain served honorably.
It would appear that the Army defines Navy heroes with their own unique definition not shared by the Navy. Below you describe your hero in terms of being an incompetent pilot who violated his oath and, gave aid and comfort to the enemy, and encouraged soldiers to refuse to fight. I observed no uprising of his fellow POWs coming to his defense.
Perhaps according to unique Army standards, Bowe Bergdahl is a hero. It appears the only requirement is "putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy." Bergdahl went to Afghanistan.
I guess to somebody that thinks riding around on a boat at sea is dangerous would think that way.
#455. To: sneakypete (#451)
People like you making judgments for Navy standards of heroes, or flight deck operations, and asserting at once that someone gave aid and comfort to the enemy and is a hero -- I'm underwhelmed.
#456. To: nolu chan (#443)
Not claiming to have seen combat can be added to my not claiming to be a lawyer.
#457. To: GrandIsland (#453)
No,what makes you a hero is purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed,or captured because you are going into combat against an armed enemy.
#458. To: nolu chan (#454)
I quoted your #428 in full minus only the tag line. Here is is again, in full, with the tag line.
#459. To: nolu chan (#455)
That's because you are a professional fool that is pimping Trump.
#460. To: sneakypete (#457)
(Edited)
purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed
#461. To: GrandIsland (#460)
#462. To: Fred Mertz (#461)
Were you wearing your diaper?
#463. To: sneakypete, GrandIsland (#457)
Driving a cab is a hell of a lot more dangerous.
#464. To: buckeroo (#463)
#465. To: GrandIsland (#464)
#466. To: buckeroo (#465)
Your credentials are silly (at best) to discuss politics on this channel.
#467. To: GrandIsland (#466)
I'll continue to post "on this channel"
#468. To: GrandIsland (#460)
purposely putting yourself in a position where you can be wounded,killed
#469. To: Fred Mertz (#461)
Were you wearing your diaper?
#470. To: buckeroo (#467)
What do you actually say? trump, Trump, TRUMP, THUMP?
#471. To: sneakypete (#469)
I'm pretty sure...
#472. To: sneakypete (#457)
#473. To: sneakypete (#468)
WOW! Twice in 20 years! How DID you stand the pressure?
#474. To: A K A Stone (#472)
I don't agree with you about taxi drivers being more dangerous then being an officer. You may be right or wrong. I don't know.
#475. To: GrandIsland (#473)
One of the times I was sitting
#476. To: sneakypete (#458)
This is the second time,and you are STILL either having a reading comprehension problem,or just don't understand what "ou said, "He DID serve honorably,even if incompetently,prior to being shot down...." means.
#477. To: sneakypete (#459)
Better an amateur than a full-on professional,bubba.
#478. To: nolu chan (#476)
Which is it?
#479. To: sneakypete (#478)
Now serving honorably, even if incompetently, qualifies one as a hero.
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