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Title: Scott Walker endorses Rubiocare: “I don’t know that we need ANY” border security
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URL Source: http://www.mofopolitics.com/2013/07 ... f-we-need-any-border-security/
Published: Jul 3, 2013
Author: MOFO
Post Date: 2015-07-27 08:34:18 by A K A Stone
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Views: 6751
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Scott Walker, formerly a legitimate candidate for President, told the Daily Herald Media Editorial Board that not only does he support amnesty and endorse a pathway to citizenship for illegals– he’s not sure that any additional security measures are necessary to secure the borders…
You hear some people talk about border security and a wall and all that– to me, I don’t know that we need any of that.
Spoiler alert: All the fiscally-conservative, anti-union measures that Gov. Walker fought for and won will be undone within 5 years of the legalization of Marco Rubio’s 30 million new Democrats.
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#1. To: misterwhite, tooconservative, hank rearden, tomder55 (#0)
You hear some people talk about border security and a wall and all that– to me, I don’t know that we need any of that. " What is up with this? Does the establishment have video of him with little boys? Or are his true feelings coming out? I guess all the people that were rooting for him can STFU. This guy is toast! Si vis pacem, para bellum
The video is from 2013
So? Has he publicly renounced those positions? And if so, how do we know he is telling the truth? How do we know that he is not lined up with Jebby & Marco? I do not trust him! Si vis pacem, para bellum
"... IF you had a better, saner way to let people into the country in the first place." Why didn't you quote the entire sentence? And the correct date on that video is July 3, 2013 not July 27, 2015. How about a more recent one? BAIER: In 2013, you said you supported a path to citizenship for people living here illegally, but recently you've — WALKER: Actually, I'm glad you asked about that, because the Wausau newspaper erroneously quoted me on that. They listed a video on their website that actually showed that the person who asked the question said that, not me, and ever since then I've had to deal with reports over and over again. BAIER: So that's wrong? WALKER: That's wrong. It's not what I said. I have said I believe we need a legal immigration system. I have said repeatedly I oppose amnesty. I think we're a nation of immigrants, but we're also a nation of laws. We should have a legal way for people to come into this country either for work or for citizenship, just like we have for generations. Part of that deal is we need to make sure we have a border that's secure, not just for immigration reasons, but as I mentioned, for national security.
See my post #5.
I can scratch another one off the list. No way in hell will I ever vote for him. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
There has clearly been pressure brought to bear. Threats were made to either him or some close family member. For all practical purposes,he just dropped out of the race. The good news is we found out now,not after voting him into office. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
How about a recent one of him denouncing open borders and Rubio Care,while explaining how that brain fart in 2013 happened? When was he lying to us,in 2013 or 2015? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
ROGER THAT ! Si vis pacem, para bellum
WALKER: Actually, I'm glad you asked about that, because the Wausau newspaper erroneously quoted me on that. They listed a video on their website that actually showed that the person who asked the question said that, not me, and ever since then I've had to deal with reports over and over again. BAIER: So that's wrong? WALKER: That's wrong. It's not what I said. I have said I believe we need a legal immigration system. I have said repeatedly I oppose amnesty. I think we're a nation of immigrants, but we're also a nation of laws. We should have a legal way for people to come into this country either for work or for citizenship, just like we have for generations. Part of that deal is we need to make sure we have a border that's secure, not just for immigration reasons, but as I mentioned, for national security. Ok,I just read that,and want to apologize. I should have read it before my last post. My apologies to you and to Walker,and he is back up to the top of my "possible" list. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The good news is we found out now,not after voting him into office. " Yeah, with that video, he pissed in his cheerios! Si vis pacem, para bellum
Ping to my post number 11 to mrwhite.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Even though he surely realizes that his party is on shaky ground and that immigration enforcement candidates made major Congressional gains a month ago, Webb aligned himself with the far left wing of the Senate when he voted for the DREAM Act. http://www.caps-blog.org/articles/2010/12/20/virginia-senator-jim-webbs-risky- yes-dream-act-vote/ I don't know if I buy Walkers explanation. He said we don't need border security. He also said he wants them to all come here and persue the American dream. Also the GOPe always says it has to be Bush, Rubio or Walker.
I don't know Pete? I went back and listened to the first video again, and the 2nd one gave me the impression of typical politician weasly backup talk, aka Bush or Rubio. Never forget this guy wants to graduate up into the big club, and to do so he has to play ball to keep the establishment happy. I will stick to my impression from the first video. I think that is the most truthful & revealing. For now, he is still off my list Si vis pacem, para bellum
Legally. "I don't know if I buy Walkers explanation." Back in early 2013, Reince Priebus released a 97-page report called the Growth and Opportunity Project, asking Governors (like Walker) to tone down the anti- immigration rhetoric. "In a rare intervention in policy making for a political committee, the R.N.C. report calls for abandonment of the party’s anti-immigration stance, flatly declaring that “we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform.” Yes, Walker should have told him to go f**k himself. Trump would have.
Walker is a globalist dunce who's actually destroying the American Dream by importing poverty and engaging in a Race To The Bottom.
Yes, he flip flopped, and then lied about his previous pro amnesty statement, and no need for border security. He's parroting the D&R party line, globalism, and cheap tacos through government subsidies, for health, education, and mucho other free stuff. There's two videos, a transcript, and Google. If you choose to believe your lies instead, that's up to you.
Total toast. "He's dead, Jim." Walker is one more globalist GOPe tool with a match in one hand and jug of kerosene in the other.
Exactly. Who ya suppose to believe? Walker's own words or what you're supposed to be programmed to believe?
Oh, the irony. In other words, a Race to Willie-World. *snicker* How's the asbestos suit holding up down there?
I will stick to my impression from the first video. I think that is the most truthful & revealing. BINGO.
Which makes Walker's future intentions all the more obvious.
And Donald Trump moves ever closer to being the only pro-secure borders candidate. Thanks Gov Walker, your candor is appreciated, especially by us who are sick and tired of lying rinos to talk right and then govern left.
Yeah. Talk is cheap. Walker is walking the RINO tightrope, playing both sides of an issue in which HE is purposely ambiguous. That he is toeing the GOP line, kissing the pinky ring of the GOPe and McTurtle tells me ALL I need to know about Walker.
..........IF there was a better immigration system . He's partly wrong about that . I agree we need a better immigration system . But we've already been burned with compromise that is like Whimpy's "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" . Reagan's amnesty was supposed to be followed by border security . So while Trump resounds because he makes empty promises of building walls ;he doesn't offer anything else . What is his 'final solution' for the illegals here ? 'Self Deportation'? Escort them to the box cars ? Walker at least exhibits the realization that there is a more complex problem than Trumps simplistic solutions . Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
You hear some people talk about border security and a wall and all that– to me, I don’t know that we need any of that. Walker --another sell-out to invading genetic primitives. Is there anybody who reliably is not? In five years there will be more Mexicans here than in Mexico.
How about all the time?
Yep. Soon, the United States will follow the Roman Empire, into the dustbin of history, and will no longer exist. And for many of the same reasons, but in great part, like the Roman Empire, we have allowed massive unrestricted immigration. Those that do not study the mistakes of history, are doomed to repeat them! Si vis pacem, para bellum
Me either,but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt until I hear more.This issue is just too important to the survival of western civilization in America to be casual about. He said we don't need border security. He also said he wants them to all come here and persue the American dream. According to the video MrWhite posted,it wasn't Walker that said that,it was the reporter interviewing him. Not to worry,though. It is early days yet and there is plenty of time for someone to ask him about this issue on national tv and then we will all see where he stands. Especially since we all know it will be a "progressive" (code word for globalist fascist) reporter on a "progressive network" because there is no other kind of tv network. If Walker stands up to the reporter and states his case,I'm good with him. If he caves to the pressure in order to attract "progressive" voters,he's toast in my book regardless of his stands on any other issue because BY DEFINITION if you are trying to appeal to globalist voters,you are trying to pacify and go along with the anti-American crowd. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I'm willing to give him a pass until I see and hear more from him on this issue. The primaries won't be held tomorrow,so there is plenty of time for someone to hold his feet to the fire on this issue,and we all know that someone will be from the open borders camp. Which is good from OUR POV because politicians tend to tell people what they want to hear in order to get their votes. If he stands up on his hind feet and takes a firm stand against open borders and limitless immigration in that atmosphere,I'm good with him. Never forget this guy wants to graduate up into the big club, and to do so he has to play ball to keep the establishment happy. Maybe,and maybe not. The seats seem to be pretty full in that clubhouse,and there seems to be a lot more people activel anti-immigrant and pro-closed borders today than ever. In is MY opinion that the crest has been reached,and the wave of open border mania is falling. We just MIGHT be to the point where being pro-open borders will be a negative to getting elected anywhere but the northeast and the far west. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I read a news story just last week that this year is the first time in American history that more non-white than white babies were born. It may already be too later to turn this around. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Maybe,and maybe not. " Well, he is going to run for President, so that would be a yes! Si vis pacem, para bellum
It most likely is. Si vis pacem, para bellum
Building a Great Wall of Mexico isn't the best solution. Walls in some places are needed. Mostly, we need to unleash the Border Patrol to do their job. Bush and Obama kept them muzzled and on a leash. We should also use some military intel resources like drones to help the BP do the job. Controlling the border is the issue, not whether it has a 1400 mile wall.
You need to listen to him more often and you would know. For those already here, it will be based on a merit system. If you are a criminal, gang banger, living on public assistance in any form, disruptive to society, you are OUT! If you can prove that you were actually making a contribution to our society via hard work and family, then he will let you stay. There will be very few who will merit citizenship. Personally, I'd like them all gone but that is unrealistic. In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
This is precisely what IS wrong, Walker. We already have legal immigration system, without flaws. This is double speak for pathway reform. He also supports Ethanol, and his state is in financial disarray. He came out against Common Core, then installed a similar system. Unions? All I can say is that the powerful Teacher's Union still has "tenure," not removal for failure. He is supported by the Chamber of Commerce. He has been talking up Rubio. What? Is that his choice for VP? He also supports TPP. He has hired Democrats to run his campaign. Dayspring for starters, and Mair. Really? Yes, I know he attempted to disassociate himself from them. If true, why did one of his aides just say, "Walker was advised to run as a conservative then he can be more moderate after he wins." In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
" Scott Walker, formerly a legitimate candidate for President, told the Daily Herald Media Editorial Board that not only does he support amnesty and endorse a pathway to citizenship for illegals– he’s not sure that any additional security measures are necessary to secure the borders…
#3. To: Stoner (#2)
#4. To: A K A Stone (#3)
" The video is from 2013 "
#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)
"... he’s not sure that any additional security measures are necessary to secure the borders… "
#6. To: Stoner (#4)
"So? Has he publicly renounced those positions?"
#7. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Scott Walker endorses Rubiocare: “I don’t know that we need ANY” border security
#8. To: Stoner (#2)
(Edited)
What is up with this? Does the establishment have video of him with little boys?
#9. To: misterwhite (#5)
And the correct date on that video is July 3, 2013 not July 27, 2015. How about a more recent one?
#10. To: sneakypete (#7)
" I can scratch another one off the list. No way in hell will I ever vote for him. "
#11. To: misterwhite (#5)
BAIER: In 2013, you said you supported a path to citizenship for people living here illegally, but recently you've —
#12. To: sneakypete (#8)
" For all practical purposes,he just dropped out of the race.
#13. To: A K A Stone, Stoner, ALL (#0)
#14. To: sneakypete (#13)
#15. To: sneakypete, mister white, A K A Stone, all (#13)
#16. To: A K A Stone (#14)
"He also said he wants them to all come here and persue the American dream."
#17. To: A K A Stone (#14)
He also said he wants them to all come here and persue the American dream.
#18. To: misterwhite, Stoner, D 'n R reconquista parry, America last globallists, *Border Invasion* (#6)
(Edited)
See my post #5.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#19. To: hondo68 (#18)
"and then lied about his previous pro amnesty statement, and no need for border security."
#20. To: Stoner (#2)
I guess all the people that were rooting for him can STFU. This guy is toast!
#21. To: hondo68 (#18)
He's parroting the D&R party line, globalism, and cheap tacos through government subsidies, for health, education, and mucho other free stuff.
#22. To: Willie Green (#17)
Walker is a globalist dunce who's actually destroying the American Dream by importing poverty and engaging in a Race To The Bottom.
#23. To: Stoner (#15)
Never forget this guy wants to graduate up into the big club, and to do so he has to play ball to keep the establishment happy.
#24. To: A K A Stone (#3)
The video is from 2013
#25. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#26. To: misterwhite (#6)
See my post #5.
#27. To: A K A Stone (#14)
He said we don't need border security ..............
#28. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Scott Walker, formerly a legitimate candidate for President, told the Daily Herald Media Editorial Board that not only does he support amnesty and endorse a pathway to citizenship for illegals– he’s not sure that any additional security measures are necessary to secure the borders…
#29. To: sneakypete (#9)
When was he lying to us,in 2013 or 2015?
#30. To: rlk (#28)
" In five years there will be more Mexicans here than in Mexico "
#31. To: A K A Stone (#14)
(Edited)
I don't know if I buy Walkers explanation.
#32. To: Stoner (#15)
I don't know Pete? I went back and listened to the first video again, and the 2nd one gave me the impression of typical politician weasly backup talk, aka Bush or Rubio.
#33. To: rlk (#28)
In five years there will be more Mexicans here than in Mexico.
#34. To: sneakypete (#32)
" Never forget this guy wants to graduate up into the big club, and to do so he has to play ball to keep the establishment happy.
#35. To: sneakypete (#33)
" It may already be too later to turn this around. "
#36. To: A K A Stone (#0)
You hear some people talk about border security and a wall and all that– to me, I don’t know that we need any of that.
#37. To: tomder55 (#27)
#38. To: A K A Stone (#0)
WALKER: That's wrong. It's not what I said. I have said I believe we need a legal immigration system. I have said repeatedly I oppose amnesty.
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