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Title: All dogs, and cats, and pigs, and goats, and cockroaches go to heaven: So says Pope Francis
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URL Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/bruce-fr ... imals-heaven-article-1.2302320
Published: Jul 25, 2015
Author: Bruce friedrich
Post Date: 2015-07-25 07:20:45 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 4969
Comments: 34

The question of whether animals will join us in the afterlife finally has a definitive response from Rome.

It’s a topic that’s been long debated, with Popes weighing in unofficially on both sides. Last December, a story broke nationwide claiming that Pope Francis had declared that animals are going to heaven, but it turns out that the media had conflated two stories, and that it was actually Pope Paul VI who had, many years earlier, told a young boy that “one day we will see our animals in the eternity of Christ.”

Paul was later contradicted by Pope Benedict XVI, who said in a sermon that “for other creatures, who are not called to eternity, death just means the end of existence on Earth.”

Notably, neither of these were doctrinal statements, and Catholic theologians continued to disagree and debate.

But no more. Despite last year’s media mix up — and despite Paul’s and Benedict's contradictory statement — Pope Francis did just officially declare that animals will join us in heaven, in his June 18 Encyclical, which offers official and binding doctrine on the question.

And in fact, he has gone far beyond animals and the afterlife, linking animals to the Trinity and declaring that the Mother of God “grieves for the sufferings of the crucified poor and for creatures of this world laid waste by human power.” For Catholics, the idea of Mary grieving for both the poor and animals, in the same sentence, is revolutionary.

So it’s almost anti-climactic that on the question of animals in heaven, Francis takes a stand: “Eternal life will be a shared experience of awe, in which each creature, resplendently transfigured, will take its rightful place and have something to give those poor men and women who will have been liberated once and for all.”

The Holy Father reiterates this in the prayers that close the Encyclical, which are filled with pro-animal sentiments, including this: “Teach us to discover the worth of each thing, to be filled with awe and contemplation, to recognize that we are profoundly united with every creature as we journey towards your infinite light.”

It is important to realize that encyclicals are Catholic Doctrine. As Pope Pius XII explained, once the Pope opines in an encyclical on “a hitherto controversial matter, it is clear to all that this . . . cannot any longer be considered a question of free discussion among theologians.” In other words, the Church has spoken.

So what does all this mean for the faithful? If Mary is grieving for the suffering of animals, and if we will all be joining other animals in heaven, it seems only sensible that we do all we can to decrease cruelty to animals, and especially our complicity in that cruelty.

The most cruelty that is meted out by humanity against God’s other creatures is a result of eating meat, dairy and eggs. Indeed, the average American Catholic eats dozens of farm animals every single year, thus directly contributing to their suffering and death.

All of us can take a stand against this abuse by no longer eating animals or their products, and when we do, we’ll be acting in clear alignment with Catholic Doctrine.

And God’s other animals will thank us when we meet them in heaven.

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#1. To: All (#0)

I'm not Catholic, but I can't help but wonder who thought it would be a good idea to make this leftard assclown Pope.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-07-25   7:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes (#1)

Cockroaches in heaven?

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-25   7:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Chuck_Wagon (#2)

Cockroaches in heaven?

I hope they have cans of Raid there, too.

Obama has played at being a president while enjoying the perks … golf, insanely expensive vacations at tax-payer expense. He has ignored the responsibilities of the job; no plans, no budgets, no alternatives … just finger pointing; making him a complete failure as a president

no gnu taxes  posted on  2015-07-25   7:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: no gnu taxes (#0) (Edited)

Dogs and cats ok...pigs and goats ok...cockroaches...well...as long as I make it

Don  posted on  2015-07-25   7:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: no gnu taxes, GrandIsland (#0)

Good GOD! Does this mean GrandIsland is going to shit all over the Pearly Gates, too?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-07-25   8:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

" cockroaches go to heaven "

??? REALLY ???

Politicians will go to heaven?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-25   8:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Chuck_Wagon (#2)

"Cockroaches in heaven?"

Unless they've sinned and haven't made a confession. Are priests now required to give cockroaches Last Rites?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-25   10:07:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#1)

I'm not Catholic, but I can't help but wonder who thought it would be a good idea to make this leftard assclown Pope.

I AM a Catholic and I can't help but wonder who thought it would be a good idea to make this leftard assclown Pope.

Animals have souls? You die, go to heaven and are in the glorious presence of God Almighty ... and you're looking around for little Fifi?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-25   10:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: no gnu taxes (#1)

I'm not Catholic, but I can't help but wonder who thought it would be a good idea to make this leftard assclown Pope.

According to Church teaching it was God.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-25   13:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

If dogs can't go to heaven, it's discrimination and and I'm not going in. Dogs are a lot better than most people.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-25   13:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Bruce Friedrich, insane author bio and quotes (#0)

The most cruelty that is meted out by humanity against God’s other creatures is a result of eating meat, dairy and eggs. Indeed, the average American Catholic eats dozens of farm animals every single year, thus directly contributing to their suffering and death.

All of us can take a stand against this abuse by no longer eating animals or their products, and when we do, we’ll be acting in clear alignment with Catholic Doctrine.

And God’s other animals will thank us when we meet them in heaven.

~ Author: Bruce Friedrich

Bio of yet one insane fascist subversive anarchist whose life subsidized by our tax dollars... and NOT in jail:

Former anti-war protestor & spokesman, Atlantic Life Community; Jailed in 1994 for destruction of government property, PETA’s vice president of International Grassroots Campaigns, Bruce Friedrich, nakedly exposes his views — and everything else.

Arrested in London in July 2001 for streaking Buckingham Palace with the words “go vegan” painted on his body, Friedrich specializes in confrontation. He threw a glass of water at London’s visiting mayor in Washington, DC when he didn’t like the mayor’s answer to a question about pigeon food. Friedrich also spent over a year in prison for attacking an Air Force fighter plane with a hammer.

Friedrich believes sport hunters should be viewed “with the same revulsion we presently reserve for Nazi doctors and slave traders.”

He spearheads PETA’s absurd “Jesus Was a Vegetarian” campaign. Friedrich has even denounced teenage animal-rights activists who dare to question the appropriateness of violent protest.

Timothy McVeigh “should not be allowed to take even one more life,” wrote Friedrich, urging the terrorist’s warden to serve the condemned prisoner only meatless meals. When McVeigh opted for a vegetarian “last meal,” Friedrich proclaimed that the mass murderer’s decision to abstain from meat “groups him with some of the world’s greatest visionaries, including Albert Schweitzer, Gandhi, Leo Tolstoy and Albert Einstein.”

Bruce Friedrich Quotes:

"If we really believe that these animals do have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing stuff up and smashing windows. For the record, I don’t do this stuff, but I do advocate it. I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be a great thing if all of these fast-food outlets, and these slaughterhouses, and these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow."

"I think it’s perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows, and everything else along the line. Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."

"[Eating meat] is not your personal decision, any more than, you know, whether somebody beats their child is their personal decision."

"If you can take Ronald McDonald and turn him into a psychotic, bloody butcher … that’s going to adversely affect McDonald’s’ stock price."

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-25   13:53:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rlk, no gnu taxes (#10)

“The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.” ― Mark Twain

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-25   13:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: rlk (#10)

If dogs can't go to heaven, it's discrimination and and I'm not going in. Dogs are a lot better than most people.

You aren't really pulling out the "Discrimination Card" here, are you? I wouldn't hold much stock in this Pope's authority of the truth. So is the question is who or what IS the arbiter of what is to come? And by whose authority the lot of loved ones -- including specifically pets like dogs -- is addressed?

The lack of qualifications and inability to meet certain standards aren't necessarily "discrimination." Man doesn't make up the rules in the Next Life.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Truth is, we don't know with any surety whether we will "see" or have any reunion with any of our pets. OR the nature of such a meeting. BUT know this -- God DID assure us of some unimaginable surprises in ways we cannot fathom with our finite earthly senses...

If this is an issue for you that is important for all eternity, imagine a Heaven in which our pets CAN finally communicate with us. What a great gift that would be, eh?

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." ~ 1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV

Contemplate the above scripture; Based on the above testimony, if I had to venture a notion, meeting our pets *would* certainly be one of God's gifts to us in Heaven. Our pets would finally be able to express their personal love in a manner that was obviously impossible here in this mortal plane of existence.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-25   14:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#8)

I AM a Catholic and I can't help but wonder who thought it would be a good idea to make this leftard assclown Pope.

Who? Frankly?? The same insane PTB and elites who ordained 0blabla as our President. FOR TWO ELECTIONS.

The Vatican has not wielded its power to execute Jesus' original mission of sharing and promoting Christ's Gospel, but instead in promoting radically social crusades that are part of the "Hopey and Changey"agenda. One "Vicar of Christ" has even kissed the Koran. In what universe would Jesus Christ have EVER have done that? The mask is off....

I'll leave it to you to do the rest of the math.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-25   14:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: rlk (#10) (Edited)

" If dogs can't go to heaven, it's discrimination and and I'm not going in. Dogs are a lot better than most people. "

EXACTLY!!

I think it was Mark Twain that said that "if dogs do not go to heaven, I want to go where they go".

Robert I think we are in good company!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-25   21:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Liberator (#13)

Our pets would finally be able to express their personal love in a manner that was obviously impossible here in this mortal plane of existence.

They do, every day on earth. I recently had a man who was unable to speak point to his dog and write me a note saying, "my best friend."

rlk  posted on  2015-07-26   3:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: buckeroo (#5)

Good GOD! Does this mean GrandIsland is going to shit all over the Pearly Gates, too?

Have no worries, a man with your character won't make it there anyway... but if animals are allowed in, I'm thinking God might let you in to clean up the pet shit... you'd be heavens illegal alien.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-26   8:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: no gnu taxes (#1)

We do not know what happens with animals after their death - Ecclesiastes 3:21.

But God allow us to eat animals on condition that we do not treat them cruelly and that we abstain from their blood.

That is why the Apostles when they suspended Jewish Law, they retained ban on blood and strangled.

A Pole  posted on  2015-07-26   8:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SOSO, no gnu taxes (#9)

According to Church teaching it was God.

CATHOLIC church teaching, yes.
We Missouri Synod Lutherans have no 'Pope'.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-26   12:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Chuck_Wagon (#19)

CATHOLIC church teaching, yes. We Missouri Synod Lutherans have no 'Pope'.

You mean no hope, don't you:)

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-26   12:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

While I would not take the popes work on anything, the truth is that all animals do go to heaven;


Friday, July 4, 2014

Every animal goes to heaven at death.

Romans 8:19,20&21

Can I honestly look you in the eye and tell you that every one of your pets, along with every other animal that God has ever created, will, upon death, go to heaven? Can I tell you that every dog, cat, mouse and chipmunk, along with all of God's other non human creations will, upon his, her or, thanks to the current ungodly practice of neutering, it, will, upon his, her, or its death be treated by God as if it were a Born Again Washed in the Blood of the Lamb Christian concerning its eternal home of either the lake of fire or eternal bliss with Christ? YES, yes I can, not by using big and/or fancy words or fancy arguments making it appear that either I know what God meant to say, or am correcting God, but by God's Holy and emphatic Scriptures, the Holy Bible. ...

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-26   13:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Stoner (#6)

" cockroaches go to heaven "

??? REALLY ???

Politicians will go to heaven?

The ones that skitter across the floor, yes, the ones in office, NOPE.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-26   13:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: BobCeleste (#22)

" The ones that skitter across the floor, yes, the ones in office, NOPE. "

LOL, yeah, that makes sense.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-26   17:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: BobCeleste (#21)

We don't know. BTW do you know how Heaven looks like?

A Pole  posted on  2015-07-27   4:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A Pole (#24)

We don't know. BTW do you know how Heaven looks like?

We don't know what?

As for what heaven looks like, Read the KJV, not commentary, but the KJV and you will.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-27   11:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BobCeleste (#25) (Edited)

As for what heaven looks like, Read the KJV, not commentary, but the KJV and you will.

I read and I know that we do not know.

A Pole  posted on  2015-07-28   0:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A Pole (#26)

As for what heaven looks like, Read the KJV, not commentary, but the KJV and you will.

I read and I know that we do not know.

You are either not telling the truth or you need to read it again.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-28   7:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: BobCeleste (#27)

You are either not telling the truth or you need to read it again.

Saint Paul said that we see it only darkly. Read comments at

http://www.godvine.com/bible/1- corinthians/13-12

A Pole  posted on  2015-07-28   7:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SOSO (#20)

... You mean no hope, don't you:) ...

You had best take up the issue with Martin Luther... :-)

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-29   9:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Chuck_Wagon (#29)

You had best take up the issue with Martin Luther... :-)

OK, the next time that I see him.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-29   11:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A Pole (#28) (Edited)

Saint Paul said that we see it only darkly. Read comments at

http://www.godvine.com/bible/1- corinthians/13-12

Forget the commentary, read the KJV, let the Holy Spirit be your guide, not commentary.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-30   8:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: BobCeleste (#31)

Forget the commentary, read the KJV, let the Holy Spirit be your guide, not commentary.

Holy Spirit told me to read these commentaries and to disregard your advice to forget them.

A Pole  posted on  2015-07-30   8:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A Pole (#32)

Forget the commentary, read the KJV, let the Holy Spirit be your guide, not commentary.

Holy Spirit told me to read these commentaries and to disregard your advice to forget them.

No He didn't, a priest may have, a bishop may have, maybe even a cardinal or the pope itself, but not the Spirit of God.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-07-30   20:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: BobCeleste (#33)

So _you_ say.

A Pole  posted on  2015-07-31   2:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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