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Title: Nathan Collier: Montana man inspired by same-sex marriage ruling requests right to wed two wives
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The Independent
URL Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w ... to-wed-two-wives-10361612.html
Published: Jul 2, 2015
Author: Andrew Buncombe
Post Date: 2015-07-02 21:22:19 by cranky
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Views: 1219
Comments: 12
The 46-year-old polygamist said he decided to act in the wake of recent Supreme Court decision Nathan Collier said he was inspired by the recent Supreme Court decision that made marriage equal. He said he was particularly struck by the words of dissenting Chief Justice John Roberts who claimed giving gay couples the right to marry, might inspire polygamy. And so this week, Mr Collier and his two wives, Victoria and Christine, entered a courthouse in Billings, Montana, and sought an application to legalise the trio’s polygamous union, “Right now we're waiting for an answer," Mr Collier told The Independent. “I have two wives because I love two women and I want my second wife to have the same legal rights and protection as my first.” He added: "Most people are not us. I am not trying to define what marriage means for anybody else - I am trying to define what marriage means for us." People celebrate in front of the U.S. Supreme Court after the ruling in favor of same-sex marriage June 26, 2015 in Washington, DC The practice of bigamy - holding multiple marriage licences - is outlawed in all 50 of the US states, Montana among them. But Mr Collier said he planned to sue if his application was denied. Mr Collier said he was former Mormon who had been excommunicated for polygamy and now owned a refrigeration business in Billings. He married his first wife, Victoria, 40, in 2000. The 46-year-old, who appeared in the reality TV show Sister Wives, held a religious ceremony to marry second wife, Christine, in 2007 but did not sign a marriage license to avoid bigamy charges. His first wife, Victoria, said that she and her husband's second wife got along "like sisters". "We're like any family. There are good days and there are bad days," she said. "But there are more good days." Asked how she felt when her husband took a second wife, she said: "How can you know who you are going to fall in love with? This is our destiny." Yellowstone County clerk officials initially denied Mr Collier's application, then said they would consult with the county legal officer before giving him a final answer. Yellowstone County chief civil litigator Kevin Gillen, told the Associated Press that he was reviewing Montana's bigamy laws and expected to send a formal response to Mr Collier by next week. Mr Gillen said: “I think he deserves an answer.” 
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#1. To: cranky (#0)
Let's see if anyone and everyone can come up with their own definition of marriage, can I come up with my own definition of tax cheat? How about Murderer, can I redefine it to exclude me? This is getting out of hand.
Not yet, it hasn't. Bestiality is next. There's bound to be a transspeciest that needs SCOTUS' blessings. But wait for cannibalism. You know, there has to be a market for all those fetuses. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
If SCOTUS has the power to strike down state law prohibiting same-sex marriage, it has the power to strike down state law prohibiting plural marriage. Plural marriage is biblical, gay sex not so much. As Roberts observed, giving constitutional protection to plural marriage would be a lesser leap.
Please show where homosexuality was ever acceptable within in any culture, religion, society or nation on the planet. Homosexuality has always been shunned by society as the family unit was promoted for survival and strength of any society until modern tymes in the good ol' USA.
I believe that is exactly what SCOTUS did. There are three kinds of people in the world: those that can add and those that can't
They gave constitutional protection to same-sex marriage and made a rather meaningless point citing couples repeatedly. They did not address plural marriage directly, but the logic they used to justify their action should apply. For conservative justices could ensure the majority gets the opportunity to face the issue.
I heard somewhere that Greek sex was acceptable in Hellas. Maybe Lesbos. Maybe ancient Rome. In the bible, not so much. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/not Is the world coming to an end? Yeah, not so much.
The Greek/Roman cultural respect for maleness had nothing to do with homosexuality; it had to with cultural domination concerning masculinity for STRENGTH in both battle, the arts, the sciences, philosophy and so on. It had to do with MALE virility perpetuating the family unit. Homosexuality has nothing to do with any of those attributes. Homosexuality is about an atrocious/heinous act that defies the very existence of mankind.
I said "plural marriage is biblical, gay sex not so much" (definitely is not). http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/not Is the world coming to an end? Yeah, not so much. Of course, your milage may vary, and you may not only consider gay sex biblical, but an expression of male virility perpetuating the family unit. The logic of the court would protect your constitutional right to express your male virility as part of a male quartet.
Bob, just hold on. I think it will get much worse before it is over. Si vis pacem, para bellum
Never heard of Sodom & Gomorrah ? Si vis pacem, para bellum
How right you are Stoner.
"Most people are not us. I am not trying to define what marriage means for anybody else - I am trying to define what marriage means for us."
#2. To: BobCeleste (#1)
This is getting out of hand.
#3. To: cranky (#0)
The practice of bigamy - holding multiple marriage licences - is outlawed in all 50 of the US states, Montana among them.
#4. To: nolu chan (#3)
Plural marriage is biblical, gay sex not so much.
#5. To: nolu chan (#3)
As Roberts observed, giving constitutional protection to plural marriage
#6. To: cranky (#5)
I believe that is exactly what SCOTUS did.
#7. To: buckeroo (#4)
Please show where homosexuality was ever acceptable within in any culture, religion, society or nation on the planet.
not so much, Informal. (an expression of dismissive scorn, ambivalence, or skepticism): Attractive? Yes. Smart? Not so much.
#8. To: nolu chan (#7)
I heard somewhere that Greek sex was acceptable in Hellas. Maybe Lesbos. Maybe ancient Rome.
#9. To: buckeroo (#8)
The Greek/Roman cultural respect for maleness had nothing to do with homosexuality; it had to with cultural domination concerning masculinity... It had to do with MALE virility perpetuating the family unit.
not so much, Informal. (an expression of dismissive scorn, ambivalence, or skepticism): Attractive? Yes. Smart? Not so much.
#10. To: BobCeleste (#1)
" This is getting out of hand. "
#11. To: buckeroo (#4)
" Please show where homosexuality was ever acceptable within in any culture, religion, society or nation on the planet. "
#12. To: Stoner (#10)
Bob, just hold on. I think it will get much worse before it is over.
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