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Title: Does anyone in politics in VT have anything betwen their ears?
Source: Life News
URL Source: http://www.lifenews.com/2015/05/21/ ... -surrender-their-newborn-baby/
Published: May 21, 2015
Author: Morgana
Post Date: 2015-05-21 20:16:22 by BobCeleste
Keywords: None
Views: 4850
Comments: 25

Vermont has a new Safe Haven law, which means that parents can hand over an infant to an employee at any fire station, health facility or hospital, with absolutely no questions asked. However, apparently Planned Parenthood is considered a safe place for infants in Vermont.

In an advertisement from Planned Parenthood of Northern New England, the abortion business announced, “Vermont has a new safe haven law. This means that rather than abandoning your newborn, you can bring your baby to a safe place where he or she will be carried for. All Planned Parenthood health centers in Vermont are safe places to bring an infant up to 30 days old. And you won’t face any legal charges if your baby has not been abused or neglected. We can help you with medical care, counseling referrals and more.”

Pro-life speaker Monica Kelsey commented on Planned Parenthood’s ad and said, “WHAT?? Say What? Are they serious?? Planned Parenthood in Vermont is a Safe Haven drop off location? I called and asked to make sure and yep, you can relinquish your child at Planned Parenthood a few minutes after it was legal for them to rip the child apart through abortion.”

Planned Parenthood is hardly a safe place for newborns considering the fact they support late-term abortion and consistently refuse to protect infants born alive at abortion facilities. For example, in 2013, a representative from the abortion business publically acknowledged that they believe an abortionist shouldn’t be mandated to provide a child with medical attention after a failed abortion.

As LifeNews previously reported, Monica Kelsey has been is a big supporter of safe haven laws because she was safely abandoned at a hospital in Indiana in 1973.

She said, “As a firefighter/medic for the state of Indiana and the fact that I was abandoned as a child, I feel a personal need to educate our youth and our communities about this life-saving law. In a perfect world, we would prefer that the mother come forward, visit a local crisis pregnancy center, and receive the assistance and counseling she needs; however, this may not be possible in all situations. With these cases, we want young women to know that the Safe Haven Law is there as an option that respects the lives of both mother and child.”

Additionally, Kelsey has been working tirelessly to bring “baby boxes” to the United States, which are climate controlled devices that allow women to relinquish their child completely anonymously without even seeing another person.

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#1. To: BobCeleste (#0)

" Planned Parenthood is considered a safe place for infants in Vermont. "

What a load of BS.

Come Judgement Day, all of those that have promoted abortion, facilitated abortion, voted / or ruled in favor of abortion, & / or performed abortion are going to have to stand in front of Almighty God, and explain their transgressions. It will not be a good day for that bunch of sinners!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-05-21   20:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Stoner, BobCeleste (#1)

" Planned Parenthood is considered a safe place for infants in Vermont. "

What a load of BS.

Often times you are quick to make a comment, like you did here when you stated: I guess we will be told that this is "yellow journalism".

I thought as I read your “what a load of BS” comment above, that maybe old Stoner is absolutely correct….more so than he realizes.

So, I would like to find out if this is all just a bunch of bullshit or if it is some more yellow journalism where someone is feeding us incorrect information or information only partially true.

I need your help to find a copy of the “new Safe Haven Law” for Vermont that LifeNews.com stated just became law in May, 2015. And since “pastor” Bob has me on bozo, perhaps you can also ask him help find a copy. Thank you.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   6:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: BobCeleste (#0)

The correct title of the article:
Planned Parenthood Abortion Business Listed as Safe Haven for Moms to Surrender Their Newborn Baby

From the article:

In an advertisement from Planned Parenthood of Northern New England, the abortion business announced, “Vermont has a new safe haven law. This means that rather than abandoning your newborn, you can bring your baby to a safe place where he or she will be carried for. All Planned Parenthood health centers in Vermont are safe places to bring an infant up to 30 days old. And you won’t face any legal charges if your baby has not been abused or neglected. We can help you with medical care, counseling referrals and more.”

LifeNews.com wrote and published this article on May 21, 2015, it stated: “Vermont has a new Safe Haven law.”

Look closely at the screen shot of the reference material used:

Do you see anything “new” looking about the handout or does the handout look old, worn and tattered….like it is 9 years old?

Keep on reading.

In the 2006 session, the VT Legislature passed S.27 known as the Baby Safe Haven Law.

To be covered by the law, you must hand the baby to a volunteer or employee at a Safe Haven:
  • Fire or police station;
  • Health care facility;
  • Place of worship;
  • Adoption agency licensed in Vermont; or
  • Place an emergency responder, contacted through 911, agrees to meet you to receive your baby.

NO. 124. AN ACT RELATING TO DECRIMINALIZING VOLUNTARILY DELIVERING A BABY TO A SAFE HAVEN.
     Short Title: Baby Safe Haven Law – Approved: May 2,2006
     http://www.leg.state.vt.us/docs/2006/acts/ACT124.HTM.

How Vermont's Baby Safe Haven Law Works:
     http://dcf.vermont.gov/babysafehaven/how_it_works.

Guidelines for Safe Havens in Vermont
     http://dcf.vermont.gov/babysafehaven/guidelines.

I find no “new” Vermont Safe Haven Law anywhere. All I can find is the law written on May 2, 2006.

Until I see a copy the “new” Safe Haven Law that LifeNews.com stated became law in May, 2015, I must label this article:

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:09:55 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Stoner (#1)

Come Judgement Day, all of those that have promoted abortion, facilitated abortion, voted / or ruled in favor of abortion, & / or performed abortion are going to have to stand in front of Almighty God, and explain their transgressions. It will not be a good day for that bunch of sinners!

I agree:

Is abortion, the unpardonable sin? Weekend of September 14th & 15th, 2002

Is abortion, the unpardonable sin?

Is abortion the unpardonable sin mentioned in Mark three?

Are abortionist and abortion supporters damned for all eternity?

My study of the Word of God leads me to believe the answer is an unequivocal YES!

Can Born Again Believers pray to the Father in heaven asking Him to do to those who commit abortion and those who support abortion, what they so freely administer to the baby in the womb? Again and unequivocal YES!

Does the Lord JESUS condemn the very act of abortion? Again YES!

Let me show you

And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

And the angel came in unto her, and said, "Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

And the angel said unto her, "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto Him the throne of His father David: And He shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of His kingdom there shall be no end." (Luke 1:26-33)

God Almighty came to earth as a baby in Mary's womb, He didn't come as an adult, a king, a teen or a ten year old, He choose to come as a speck in the womb of a 14 year old Jewish virgin by the name of Mary. You want to call Him "just a fetus", "just a glob of tissue", "not human", "not life", "not alive"? Not me, I will call Him God Almighty.

And whoso shall receive one such little child in My name receiveth Me. But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in Me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! (Matthew 18:5-7)

Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: (Mark 3:28-29)

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. (1 Corinthians 3:16-17)

So far, we see that when God was on earth in the form of a man called by the name of JESUS, that God Himself told us that blaspheming the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven and he who does it is in danger of damnation. Paul goes on to tell us in first Corinthians that Holy Spirit lives within us. That we are the temple of the Holy Ghost.

I am telling you that the baby in the womb is not a speck, it is not just a glob of tissue, it is a living baby. It is, a life in which the Holy Spirt could very well dwell within. For it is a baby that is completely incapable of protecting, itself. When that baby is slaughtered by the abortionist, that baby is not simply killed, ripped apart and sold for body parts, that baby is a blood sacrifice to satan. That which the mother and the abortionist is no different than that which God absolutely prohibited in Leviticus: And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD (Leviticus 18:31)

I don't care what liberal so called theologist tell you, I don't care what left wing politicians tell you, I don't care what anyone else tells you, I'm telling you this. You bring your baby to an abortionist and you're going to hell! Oh, yes, you may later to to a saving knowledge of the Lord, but the odds against it are great. Think about how few woman who kill their babies ever repent of it and after saved. For the most part, you take your trapped baby to the alter of satan to have an abortion done and the chances of your ever escaping eternal damnation are just about slim and none. Don't be fooled. Don't be a fool. There are tons of options to killing your baby. You can start by going here: http://www.christianpatriot.com/mommy.htm Or better still, you can start by remaining a virgin till the day you get married. The only virgin in history who had to face the ordeal of pregnancy was the mother of our Lord, Mary.

And as for those who do abortions, from the time you kill the first baby in the womb, you are a servant and priest of satan. The dye is cast, you're damned!

Now, let me just leave you with these two questions one more bit of Scripture if I may.

What did the baby do? Why kill the baby?

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:13)

Now let me ask you a question, is there any man out there who is the friend of the baby in the womb that is about to be offered up as blood sacrifice to satan by one of his high priest the abortionist? May the Lord God above, the Creator of heaven and earth and all things on and in them bless those friends of the baby in the womb and may He find in His heart forgiveness for my cowardice in not doing more to stop this baal worshiping slaughter of His gift to an unworthy and degenerate people.

May the Lord thy God be with the baby and do unto those, who do and support the abortion of those little ones, what they would do to His little ones. May His blessing be upon those that are slaughtered and His vengeance upon those who slaughter these little ones, may He treat those who protect, pay and befriend the abortionist as I pray He will the abortionist. May His judgement come upon those that kill the baby in the womb. And may those who kill the baby see the error of their ways and come to the Lord on bended knees asking and begging that I may be wrong and for His forgiveness. May He open their eyes and cause them stop the slaughter and embrace Him and His gifts. To the Father I pray in the name of His Son, our Lord and our Saviour, Messiah Yeshua and through His Holy Spirit. Amen.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-22   8:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: BobCeleste (#4)

May the Lord thy God be with the baby ...

May the Lord save the life of a baby and if dropping a baby off a Planned Parenthood will save the life of a baby....then let it happen.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

May the Lord save the life of a baby and if dropping a baby off a Planned Parenthood will save the life of a baby....then let it happen.

If everyone that worked at planned parenthood dropped dead. That would be good. Then they couldn't murder and file murder paperwork anymore.

Planned parenthood should be bulldozed. With everyone inside.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-05-22   8:26:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BobCeleste (#4)

Now, let me just leave you with...

Until the Safe Haven Law was passed on May 2, 2006, it is was illegal to abandon an infant anywhere in Vermont, even at a hospital. Parents who did so faced up to 10 years in prison.

Let us be grateful that Vermont passed the Safe Haven Law. Let us also be grateful there are now state approved facilities in Vermont to care for a child which could be abandoned and die.

I am pro-life. I am for anything that will save the life of a child. If dropping off a child at a Planned Parenthood center in Vermont will save the life of a child….then I stand tall and say, then go for it.

When Westboro Baptist’s preacher, Fred Phelps, died last year….we had one less “preacher of hate.” Bob, don’t become a notorious hate preacher like Phelps by jubilantly continuing to spread messages of hate.

Fanatics oftentimes just go too far in their hate … and, that goes for those who align themselves on the periphery of these types and sit silent or act as apologist for these terrible abhorrent and loathsome malcontents. This really must stop. Learn to look for the brighter things in life….there are there, everywhere.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

I agree with that.

But if dropping off a baby at Planned Parenthood saves the life of that baby....then I am for that.

This is about saving a baby...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:32:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#5)

dropping a baby off a Planned Parenthood will save the life of a baby

You probably would have told Jews that the gas chambers were showers.

Planned Parenthood is in the business of killing babies, not helping them.

Shame on you!

Why don't you look up Margaret Sanger and educate yourself.

Abortion is a satanic sacrifice for these ghouls.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-22   8:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Deckard (#9)

I am not defending Planned Parenthood. I am defending the life of a baby. I am pro-life.

If dropping off a baby at Planned Parenthood saves the life of the baby, is that okay with you too?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#9) (Edited)

Planned Parenthood is in the business of killing babies, not helping them.

Generally speaking yes. But Safe Haven is the exception.

But they are required by Vermont law to save the life a of child dropped off at their facility. Why is that not a good thing?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#9)

Why don't you look up Margaret Sanger and educate yourself.

I know who she is. She has nothing to do with the discussion here.

The discussion here is about dropping off a baby at Planned Parenthood to save the life of that baby.

Is doing that okay with you?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#12)

Does your hatred run so deeply that you would rather see a baby die than be dropped off at Planned Parenthood for the life of the Baby to be saved?

Simple question...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:42:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard (#9)

You probably would have told Jews that the gas chambers were showers.

Only a sick mind comes up with an analogy like that...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#14)

Back on topic...

Where is the new law this yellow journalism article is about?

I can't find it....can you?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#9)

Abortion is a satanic sacrifice for these ghouls.

Yes it is....without question!

And anyone who would rather see a baby die than be dropped off at Planned Parenthood to live is a satanic creature, right?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   8:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#16)

Your selective outrage is duly noted.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-22   9:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard (#17)

Your selective outrage is duly noted.

Your biased thinking and ignorance is well recognized.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   9:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#18)

Seems to me you are claiming to support the safety and well being of babies, yet you support cops who kill and maim them.

Like I said, selective outrage.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-22   9:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Deckard (#19)

Seems to me you are claiming to support the safety and well being of babies, yet you support cops who kill and maim them.

Like I said, selective outrage.

Nope!

I support cops who do the right thing and condemn those proven to do the wrong thing.

Hey, that's what you do too....right?

Uh, BTW....when was the last time you supported anything cops did?

Like I said, your bias and ignorance is showing.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-05-22   10:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: BobCeleste (#4)

Bob my friend, thanks for posting that.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-05-22   10:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Agree AKA Stone.

Planned parenthood is an evil, vile organization. Comparable to the Nazi staff at Auschwitz, Buchenwald, etc.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-05-22   11:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Stoner (#21)

You, sir, are welcome.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-22   14:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: BobCeleste (#0)

Alex Jones Assaulted by Rabid Communist Baby Killers In Austin

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-05-23   0:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Deckard (#24)

Some times blunt force is not only desirable but necessary.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-23   7:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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