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Title: Minnesota mom who gave cannabis oil to son will not face trial - drug warriors furious
Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press
URL Source: http://www.twincities.com/localnews ... a-brown-madison-has-signed-off
Published: Apr 17, 2015
Author: Tom Cherveny
Post Date: 2015-04-20 21:21:27 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 39056
Comments: 118

Angela Brown, left, visits with supporters, including Patrick McClellan, outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September.

Angela Brown, left, visits with supporters, including Patrick McClellan, outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September. McClellan, of Minnesotans for Compassionate Care, testified at the Legislature for the bill that will allow the use of medical cannabis. He made the trip from Bloomington to show support for Brown. Forum News Service: Tom Cherveny

Angela Brown of Madison, Minn., has signed off on an agreement that will lead to the dismissal of a child endangerment charge against her for giving her 15-year-old son cannabis oil to treat his seizures and pain from a traumatic brain injury.

Brown said her attorney, Michael Hughes of Bend, Ore., informed her a week ago that he and Lac qui Parle County Attorney Rick Stulz worked out an agreement that will allow for a "continuance for dismissal'' of the child endangerment charge. If she pays a $100 court fee and has no violations for 90 days, the gross misdemeanor charge will be dropped.

Brown said she signed the agreement Thursday and expected it to be entered in court by the Lac qui Parle County attorney.

Brown had been set to stand trial on the charge Wednesday.

"I was shell-shocked and actually upset; he's getting exactly what he wants,'' said Brown of her initial reaction when asked by her attorney if she would OK the agreement.

Brown learned of the agreement while in the Twin Cities on April 10 for the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Film Festival and the debut showing of "Pot (The Movie),'' which documents the fight for medical marijuana, and in which she appears.

By approving the agreement, Brown said she spares her son Trey the trauma of having to testify in the trial. The prosecution intended to subpoena Trey, according to Brown. She said it would have been traumatic for her son to have to testify.

She said her attorney filed statements from her son's medical provider warning of the harm it could cause him.

Brown was charged in June with child endangerment after surrendering a small amount of cannabis oil to law enforcement. The family had traveled to Colorado to obtain the oil to treat Trey. He suffered the traumatic brain injury when he was struck by a baseball at age 11.

Brown and her husband, David, believe their son would be eligible to receive the cannabis oil when use of medical cannabis for some medical conditions becomes legal in Minnesota on July 1.

The legal fight has been a financial blow to the family, and the ordeal very stressful for the parents and their three children, Brown said. They have been fearful that she would be taken away and put in prison. She and her husband have a gofundme.com fundraising site to accept funds for their medical and other costs, and now the costs to move to a new home.

Brown said they have decided to move to Colorado where David has accepted a position with his former employer, the Corrections Corporation of America.

The ordeal has put Angela Brown into the limelight as a spokeswoman for those calling for laws to allow for the use of medical cannabis.

Trey Brown, center, looks at a cellphone photo taken of him outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September. Trey’s mother
Trey Brown, center, looks at a cellphone photo taken of him outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September. Trey's mother was facing criminal charges at the time for giving her 15-year-old son medical cannabis to treat his pain from a traumatic brain injury. (Forum News Service: Tom Cherveny)
Her family's story is part of the newly released documentary film, and Brown has appeared on national television programs to tell it.

While it has been difficult for her family, she believes the ordeal has served some good in that she has been able to call attention to the issue. She remains committed to it.

"I'm going to continue to fight. It's not done,'' she said.

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#41. To: Stoner, honda68 (#35)

" Gatlin, furious drug warrior, hall monitor, narc "
LOL !
Stoner posted on 2015-04-21
This thread is about a mother who “self-medicates” her son with a drug untested and not approved by the FDA….against the advice of her doctor.
It’s a stunning fact that 4 busloads of kids (around 165 young children) are seen in hospital ERs after getting medications….while each case is preventable.

Do you find about 165 kids in ERs every day because of the ignorance of their parents something to also “LOL” about?

I sincerely hope not.

Furthermore, do you believe parents should give their child drugs of their personal choice that have not been approved by the FDA for quality and purity … and that the parent should arbitrarily decide on the strength dosage and frequency of application?

I am sincerely interested in your answer.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   19:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Deckard (#40)

You CANNOT properly address the point....you can only continue to copy and paste for DEFLECTION.

That's pathetic...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   19:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Gatlin (#42)

You CANNOT properly address the point

I did address the point, Reno apologist.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   19:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Deckard (#43)

Like Hell you did, Alex's Ass Kisser.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   20:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin (#41)

I was only laughing about the quote:

"Gatlin, furious drug warrior, hall monitor, narc "

Nothing more, nothing less.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-04-21   20:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Gatlin (#44)

Don't try and pretend that you have any concern for children

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   20:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Deckard (#46)

Stop assuming you know the proper medication for seizures.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   21:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Gatlin (#47)

Stop assuming you know the proper medication for seizures.

What the facts here show is that CBD's reduce the intensity, duration and number of seizures.

You drug warriors are pathetic.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   21:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Deckard (#46)

---- Don't try and pretend that you have any concern for children

Stop assuming you know the proper medication for seizures. --- Gatlin

We'll have to leave that pretension to 'Major' gatlin...

tpaine  posted on  2015-04-21   21:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: tpaine (#49)

We'll have to leave that pretension to 'Major' gatlin...

"Major" Gatty is the only one who believes that lie.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   21:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Deckard, hondo68, Fred Mertz, misterwhite, TooConservative (#50)

Brown said they have decided to move to Colorado ...

Parents May Overestimate Marijuana's Effects on Kids' Seizures

by Laura Geggel, Staff Writer | December 08, 2014 03:42pm ET

In a recent trend, parents of children with some forms of epilepsy are giving marijuana to their children in hopes of alleviating the seizures, but researchers say cannabis is not a proven treatment for childhood epilepsy, and people should wait for rigorous studies to decide whether the drug is safe or effective.

In fact, parents with high expectations may overestimate the effects of marijuana on children with epilepsy, said the researchers, who presented their data today (Dec. 8) at the meeting of the American Epilepsy Society in Seattle.

In one study, the researchers surveyed parents in Colorado whose children had epilepsy and were treated with marijuana. Parents who had moved to the state because it is legal there to use pot recreationally were three times more likely to report that cannabis helped their children, compared with families who already lived in the state. [11 Surprising Facts About Placebos]

I can imagine these poor families, who are just desperate for anything to work," said the study's senior researcher, Dr. Kevin Chapman, an associate professor of neurology at the University of Colorado. However, it's concerning that the researchers found "that the biggest predictor of whether you respond was whether you actually moved from out of state."

Cannabis contains a number of chemicals that are thought to exert effects on the body and mind, said Dr. Shaun Hussain, the director of the University of California, Los Angeles Infantile Spasms Program.

The two big players are the compounds tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol (CBD).

THC is associated with the high that comes with taking cannabis, and has also been shown to reduce nausea and increase hunger, Hussain said.

"It has traditionally been thought that CBD didn't do a whole lot, but attention has focused on CBD as the chemical that may reduce seizures," Hussain said. But research has yet to determine CBD's usefulness.

"From a physician standpoint, it's kind of daunting because we don't know anything about it," Chapman said. "We don't know about side effects, we don't know about drug interactions, we don't know whether it works or not."

Parent surveys

Some evidence is beginning to come in from surveys of families who have given the drug to their children.

In one study, Chapman and his colleagues looked at 58 children, average age of 7, who received marijuana for their epilepsy.

The parents of 18 of the 58 children reported that the number of seizures their kids suffered was reduced by half while they were taking the drug — suggesting that about 30 percent of the kids benefited. In addition, 29 percent reported their children showed improved alertness and improved behavior.

But the researchers had brain wave readings called electroencephalograms (EEGs) for 16 of the 58 kids in the study that were taken before and during treatment with marijuana. They found that just two kids showed signs of improvement, the researchers said. This translates to 12.5 percent of these kids seeing a benefit.

And meanwhile, negative side effects occurred in 47 percent of all the children in the study, with 21 percent of them having more seizures than before, 14 percent having sleepiness or fatigue, and 10 percent having more severe effects, including one child who needed intubation to help breathing, and another who died, although the researchers felt the death was unrelated to the cannabis.

One potential problem with the study is that some doctors took children off other medications they were taking when the children started taking cannabis extracts, which may have altered the chemistry within their bodies, Chapman noted. Also, cannabis may affect the concentration levels of other drugs the children are taking, which can also change how they respond to their epilepsy, the doctors said.

Marijuana from dispensaries may also have varying concentrations of its chemicals, and parents may be unsure of what dose to give their children, the researchers added. [11 Odd Facts About Marijuana]

The findings highlight the need for controlled studies, Chapman said. "By doing more placebo-controlled trials, I think we're going to get a better feel for whether it's beneficial for epilepsy," he said.

Another parent survey, by Hussain and his colleagues, also found the need for rigorous trials. That survey was given online to 53 parents of children who have infantile spasms or Lennox-Gastaut syndrome, who had taken marijuana extracts containing CBD.

The researchers found that 92 percent of parents said their children had fewer seizures after taking CBD, and 13 percent said their child was seizure-free. The kids had tried eight medications, on average, and had not been helped. The parents also said the drug helped their children sleep, and increased alertness and mood.

But these results should be taken with a grain of salt, Hussain said.

"This is generally a pretty desperate group of patients and parents, and I think they are highly invested in the belief and the hope that these cannabis extracts are truly effective," he said.

Several clinical trials on cannabis' effects on childhood epilepsy are slated to begin in early 2015,  Hussain said.

Doose Syndrome

The third study is a case report of a family who began giving CBD to their 4-year-old boy with Doose Syndrome, a type of epilepsy that causes classic shaking as well as jerking muscles during seizures.

The boy had at least 10 seizures a day, said Dr. Jeffrey Gold, an assistant professor of neuroscience at the University of California, San Diego, and a neurologist at Rady Children's Hospital-San Diego. When the boy started CBD, his seizures initially got worse. But it turned out the CBD was increasing the child's blood levels of valproic acid, another anti-seizure medication he was taking.

Doctors immediately reduced the child's valproic acid medication, and he continued to take CBD. Within four months, the boy's seizures disappeared, which was confirmed with EEGs.

"We don't know why that happened," Gold said. "Maybe it was the valproic acid. Maybe it was the cannabinoid."

Doctors still can't recommend CBD as a treatment for children with epilepsy, but Gold encouraged families to be upfront with their doctors if they choose that route. The drug may interfere with the child's other medications, and informed doctors can monitor the child's response, he said.

Future work will help doctors determine whether cannabis is a useful drug, experts said.

"We lack safety data in children, and there should be carefully done safety and efficacy studies on any drug given to children," said Dr. Orrin Devinsky, the director of the New York University Epilepsy Center, who was not involved with any of the studies. "We desperately need this data."

He continued, "There is a naturalistic fallacy in which people believe that natural things are safe. There are many poisons in plants as well as animals. Some are very natural and very lethal. These studies are a call for more carefully designed studies.

http://www.livescience.com/49048-cannabis-marijuana-epilepsy.html.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   21:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Gatlin (#51)

In a recent trend, parents of children with some forms of epilepsy are giving marijuana to their children in hopes of alleviating the seizures, but researchers say cannabis is not a proven treatment for childhood epilepsy, and people should wait for rigorous studies to decide whether the drug is safe or effective.

Fuck the USA FDA for all their failed "research" killing millions of Americans through their god_damned federal charter.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-21   22:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: buckeroo, Gatlin (#52)

...people should wait for rigorous studies to decide whether the drug is safe or effective.

Fuck the USA FDA for all their failed "research" killing millions of Americans through their god_damned federal charter.

FDA-approved drugs kill 100,000 every year

(SmallGovTimes) – Medications approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration result in 100,000 deaths every year from what the federal agency describes as “Adverse Drug Reactions”, or ADRs.  Worse, over 2 million Americans suffer non-deadly adverse reactions to drugs every year that the FDA has approved “safe”.

ADRs refer to negative reactions that Americans suffer from taking drugs as directed by their doctor or the drug’s manufacturer.  These cases DO NOT include overdoses or drug abuse.

In fact, the FDA claims that adverse drug reactions account for the 4th leading cause of death “ahead of pulmonary disease, diabetes, AIDS, pneumonia, accidents and automobile deaths”.  Who is the FDA truly protecting, and what responsibility does the FDA accept in the number of deaths that result from its approved drugs?  These deaths give the phrase “FDA Warning” a whole new meaning.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   22:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Gatlin (#51)

What Bucky said.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-21   22:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Gatlin, Mitts the szhitz, OromneyCare (#51)

If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, but these kids deserve better than your FDA approved death panel.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-21   22:34:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: buckeroo (#52)

Fuck the USA FDA …

With your known weirdness, this object of fixation for your psychologically fantasied necessary presence to achieve sexual gratification would probably be the best piece of ass you ever had….dream on, Bucky, dream on.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   22:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Gatlin (#56)

sexual gratification

Are you getting all yukkie already?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-21   22:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: hondo68 (#55) (Edited)

If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor,
but these kids deserve better than your FDA approved death panel.
If you love your kids, then beware of “hemp oil hustlers” making medical claims about CBD and their products’ ability.
Some of these companies can’t even spell “cannabidiol” or “inflammation” correctly.
A bigger issue than the claims may be, exactly where is this hemp CBD coming from.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   22:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: buckeroo (#57)

Are you getting all yukkie already?

It's you that expressed your fantasy...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   23:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Gatlin, yukon (#59)

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-21   23:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: buckeroo (#60)

I was sure you were playin' your flute for your biggest Alaskan pal.

And that was what TURNED you ON....just thinking about that?

You are REALLY WEIRD!!!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   23:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Gatlin (#61)

OFF TOPIC

buckeroo  posted on  2015-04-21   23:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Deckard, hondo68, misterwhite, TooConservative (#51) (Edited)

Marijuana Extract for Children With Epilepsy Is Questioned

As more states move to legalize cannabidiol, early research shows the substance failed to help some patients and even worsened others

By ARIAN CAMPO-FLORES - March 23, 2015 6:06 p.m. ET

Studies are under way to test the effectiveness of a marijuana extract that has been hailed as a wonder drug by some parents whose children suffer severe forms of epilepsy. But as initial findings from several researchers trickle in, the results are proving mixed.

A dozen states in the past year, including Florida and Kentucky, have legalized the substance—cannabidiol, or CBD—despite a lack of hard evidence of its effectiveness in controlling seizures. Another nine states are weighing CBD legislation. Some of the bills have been named after children in those states with severe epilepsy and whose families were desperate for an alternative after trying other medications that failed.

The early research results show that while some children appeared to improve after taking CBD, others didn’t respond, or even worsened. Doctors say the findings underscore the need for more research on the extract.

Read more here >

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   9:29:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Gatlin (#63)

These parents don't even know what they're giving their children. They don't know because their drug dealer doesn't know.

There's no "quality control", no consistency between batches, no screening for contaminants, no idea of drug interactions with other medicines the child may be taking, no clue about side effects.

How much CBD is in that oil? What is the proper dosage? How many times per day? What other cannabinoids are in that oil? Will those cannabinoids actually make the problem worse?

Her son's doctor advised against it. Not gonna stop her. She a vocal advocate for marijuana as medicine. How would that look?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-22   9:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: misterwhite (#64)

These parents don't even know what they're giving their children. They don't know because their drug dealer doesn't know.

One source stated that some guy was making it in his garage and widely distributing it to desperate parents...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   9:45:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: misterwhite (#64)

These parents don't even know what they're giving their children. They don't know because their drug dealer doesn't know.

You are an idiot.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-22   9:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Gatlin (#65)

One source stated...

Yeah, your source has as much credibility as the movie "Reefer Madness"

Unimpeachable source.

Moron.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-22   9:47:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: misterwhite (#64)

There's no "quality control", no consistency between batches, no screening for contaminants, no idea of drug interactions with other medicines the child may be taking, no clue about side effects.

There are a small number of quality growers for the Charlotte blend.

There are other unscrupulous types who are selling whatever they whip up as a blend, often the main Charlotte blend mixed with other active-THC material.

So there are some scammers out there trying to get in on the cannabis oil market and parents need to check carefully who is supplying them and their reputation.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-22   9:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Deckard, TooConservative, Deckard (#67) (Edited)

See Post #64.

The information is out there ...

Just go look for it and stop looking only for what you WANT to find.

https://www.facebook.com/stopthecon

There are many other sources...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   10:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Deckard, misterwhite (#66) (Edited)

These parents don't even know what they're giving their children. They don't know because their drug dealer doesn't know.

You are an idiot.

You need to learn to look for and face the TRUTH!

Snake Oil: History repeats itself

Humans can be relatively stupid and gullible creatures. We will believe anything if you put the right sales spin and fancy marketing on it.

So here we are over 100 years after the snake oil peddlers were done away with by the 1906 Food and Drug Act, which attempted to regulate medicines and curb the abuses of “travelling “doctors” with dubious credentials, selling fake medicines with boisterous marketing hype, often supported by pseudo-scientific evidence.” Sound familiar? Yes….Look around you. History is indeed repeating itself and the cannabis snake oil salespeople are out in full force to sucker you out of your hard earned cash before prohibition ends.

The ruse was simple. Wander into a town of unsuspecting people proclaiming to have the cure all for their illness and disease and sucker the townspeople into buying up all of your bullshit snake oil preparations. The way they would pull off the trick is to have accomplices in the audience that would claim that the preparation had really helped them. They would sucker people into believing their bullshit based on the testimonies of those who had supposedly used this new cure all and had been healed. Yeah…Let that soak in for a minute. Check the landscape and you can see that this ruse is more alive than ever, and the internet and social media have made it easier than ever to pull off. The quasi-legal state of cannabis and the lack of oversight or regulation make it extra easy picking for these modern day medical hucksters.

Read more here >

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   10:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Deckard (#67)

Hemp Oil: A Case of Mistaken Identity

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   10:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Deckard (#71)

A half year ago, Project CBD assigned a writer to investigate and report on Medical Marijuana Inc., a penny stock umbrella company that markets “hemp oil” products infused with cannabidiol (CBD), a medicinal component of the cannabis plant. Originally we had hoped to shed light on the complex financial machinations of Medical Marijuana Inc., a subject that had been addressed by a few stock market analysts but not by journalists in general interest publications.

Project CBD was poised to publish Aaron Miguel Cantu’s research when we heard complaints from several sources that people were getting sick, in some cases “violently ill,” when they ingested “Real Scientific Hemp Oil,” Medical Marijuana Inc.’s flagship product. We decided to delay the release of our report until we had a chance to look into whether there was any truth to these allegations.

Our investigation proceeded in an unanticipated direction, involving analytical lab tests, hemp oil production tours, and a crash course in scientific data regarding toxic solvents, heavy metals, and other contaminants. We have presented our findings in this report.

Read more here >

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   10:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Gatlin (#72)

How many millions has the FDA killed, Pharma-shill?

You can't seem to grasp reality here.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-22   10:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Gatlin (#69)

https://www.facebook.com/stopthecon

There are many other sources...

Yawns....anyone can make up a Facebook page.

CURE Promotes Research on CBD-Rich Marijuana

Despite the fear that CBD-rich marijuana extracts can increase the risk of serious psychiatric disorders and long-term cognitive problems, we believe that the serious long- term effects that accompany the use of anti-epileptic drugs and a lifetime of intractable seizures cannot be ignored. The positive results that some people with epilepsy have been seeing from CBD-rich marijuana extracts are giving so many parents what they have been lacking for so long – hope.

Many people with severe epilepsy have tried a myriad of mind-numbing medications, brain surgeries, invasively implanted electrical stimulation devices, diets and alternative therapies, with little to no relief of their symptoms. While there may be some harmful effects from these CBD-rich marijuana extracts, they must be weighed against the very real dangers and challenges a constantly seizing child faces every day – a child who has no other treatments left to try.

Cannabis Oil Helped Stop 8-Year-Old Forrest Smelser's Seizures When Other Drugs Couldn't: What Is CBD?

Epilepsy Foundation : Cannabidiol (CBD) as a Medication for Children with Epilepsy

Early results are promising, but more research is needed (and it is happening).

  • The Realm of Caring Foundation reports that, among the initial cohort of 27 children with epilepsy who received Charlotte’s Web, 23 (85%) experienced a reduction of 50% or more in seizure frequency. Margaret Gedde, MD, who has seen in her clinical practice many of the children taking Charlotte’s Web, estimates that overall one-quarter of children with epilepsy have had dramatic improvement after taking Charlotte’s Web and about another 50 percent have had some improvement.
  • Doctors in Colorado and researchers at Stanford University have collected summaries of patient histories suggesting positive impact of CBD in children with epilepsy.
  • However, these reports are anecdotal; no rigorous clinical trials of either medication have been completed yet.
  • GW Pharmaceuticals is completing design arrangements with the FDA for clinical trials of Epidiolex and expects to initiate these studies in 2014.
  • The Stanleys are pursuing efforts to develop a clinical trial of Charlotte’s Web using a study design similar to that of the Epidiolex studies.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
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Deckard  posted on  2015-04-22   10:57:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: TooConservative (#68)

"There are a small number of quality growers for the Charlotte blend."

Do these "quality growers" know what they're selling? What's the amount of CBD in each drop of oil? How many drops per dosage? How many times per day? Any other cannabinoids in their product?

Here's an example of how it's done correctly:

"SATIVEX® is provided as a buccal spray in a 5.5 ml vial, with each 100 microlitre spray providing 2.7 mg delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and 2.5 mg cannabidiol (CBD)."

"Patients should be advised that it might take a week or more to find the optimal dosing level. The median daily dosage of SATIVEX® in the extension phase of the 4-week clinical trial was 5 sprays per day."

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-22   12:36:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: misterwhite (#75)

"SATIVEX® is provided as a buccal spray in a 5.5 ml vial, with each 100 microlitre spray providing 2.7 mg delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and 2.5 mg cannabidiol (CBD)."

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-22   12:43:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Deckard, hondo68, misterwhite, TooConservative (#73)

How many millions has the FDA killed, Pharma-shill?
You can't seem to grasp reality here.
The reality you need to grasp HERE is that this thread established by YOU is discussing a “Minnesota mom who gave cannabis oil to her son” and not the FDA, Pothead-shill. Stay on point….go start another idiotic thread is you want to discuss the FDA.

Back to the topic at hand…

You can present nothing but anecdotes about any claimed success from cannabis oil treatment for seizures because nowhere does anyone track how many families treat their children for seizures with CBD or the results.

There are no agencies to thoroughly regulate the ethics of treatment providers and there are no rules to govern the right formulation of content or the amount of dosage. The few, small studies alleging its efficacy are preliminary, inconclusive and often disputed. There are no studies that conclusively document the side effects.

Most importantly, no one knows how often it works and does not work. One of the earlier and oft-reported surveys showed that 80 percent who tried CBD eliminated at least three of every four of their seizures. This turned out to be untrue….specialist participating in that study questions that it was overly optimistic. Subsequent studies have shown the response rate might be closer to 30 percent or, perhaps, even lower. So it not the parents just knowing they are taking a gamble, it’s that they don’t even know the odds.

Don’t make me keep coming over here to educate you….but if it is necessary, then I will.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   14:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Deckard, hondo68, misterwhite, TooConservative (#74)

The Realm of Caring Foundation reports that, among the initial cohort of 27 children with epilepsy who received Charlotte’s Web, 23 (85%) experienced a reduction of 50% or more in seizure frequency.
The Realm of Caring Foundation was informally established by the Stanley Brothers.
The Stanley Brothers are in the business to sell marijuana.
Jesse and Joel Stanley, along with three of their brothers, began growing marijuana as a family business in 2008.
The five-brother operation producing a cannabis-based oil used to treat children with severe epilepsy plans to massively expand by summer 2015, possibly allowing it to eliminate a 12,000-person, worldwide wait list for the therapeutic oil. Read more here >.
The Realm of Caring Foundation - Stanley Brothers. A report on CBD success - Huh?
Okay, sport…. do you have any other “unbiased” success reports to present?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   15:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Deckard, misterwhite (#76)

After reading Deckard’s posts and all I got was…

…to use what is shown on this T-shirt!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-22   15:27:46 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Gatlin, in Wonderland, down the rabbit hole, hippie burnout (#78)

No one should have to suffer because you've been on a bum trip since the Summer of Love '67 in Frisco.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-22   15:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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