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Title: Minnesota mom who gave cannabis oil to son will not face trial - drug warriors furious
Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press
URL Source: http://www.twincities.com/localnews ... a-brown-madison-has-signed-off
Published: Apr 17, 2015
Author: Tom Cherveny
Post Date: 2015-04-20 21:21:27 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 42100
Comments: 118

Angela Brown, left, visits with supporters, including Patrick McClellan, outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September.

Angela Brown, left, visits with supporters, including Patrick McClellan, outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September. McClellan, of Minnesotans for Compassionate Care, testified at the Legislature for the bill that will allow the use of medical cannabis. He made the trip from Bloomington to show support for Brown. Forum News Service: Tom Cherveny

Angela Brown of Madison, Minn., has signed off on an agreement that will lead to the dismissal of a child endangerment charge against her for giving her 15-year-old son cannabis oil to treat his seizures and pain from a traumatic brain injury.

Brown said her attorney, Michael Hughes of Bend, Ore., informed her a week ago that he and Lac qui Parle County Attorney Rick Stulz worked out an agreement that will allow for a "continuance for dismissal'' of the child endangerment charge. If she pays a $100 court fee and has no violations for 90 days, the gross misdemeanor charge will be dropped.

Brown said she signed the agreement Thursday and expected it to be entered in court by the Lac qui Parle County attorney.

Brown had been set to stand trial on the charge Wednesday.

"I was shell-shocked and actually upset; he's getting exactly what he wants,'' said Brown of her initial reaction when asked by her attorney if she would OK the agreement.

Brown learned of the agreement while in the Twin Cities on April 10 for the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Film Festival and the debut showing of "Pot (The Movie),'' which documents the fight for medical marijuana, and in which she appears.

By approving the agreement, Brown said she spares her son Trey the trauma of having to testify in the trial. The prosecution intended to subpoena Trey, according to Brown. She said it would have been traumatic for her son to have to testify.

She said her attorney filed statements from her son's medical provider warning of the harm it could cause him.

Brown was charged in June with child endangerment after surrendering a small amount of cannabis oil to law enforcement. The family had traveled to Colorado to obtain the oil to treat Trey. He suffered the traumatic brain injury when he was struck by a baseball at age 11.

Brown and her husband, David, believe their son would be eligible to receive the cannabis oil when use of medical cannabis for some medical conditions becomes legal in Minnesota on July 1.

The legal fight has been a financial blow to the family, and the ordeal very stressful for the parents and their three children, Brown said. They have been fearful that she would be taken away and put in prison. She and her husband have a gofundme.com fundraising site to accept funds for their medical and other costs, and now the costs to move to a new home.

Brown said they have decided to move to Colorado where David has accepted a position with his former employer, the Corrections Corporation of America.

The ordeal has put Angela Brown into the limelight as a spokeswoman for those calling for laws to allow for the use of medical cannabis.

Trey Brown, center, looks at a cellphone photo taken of him outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September. Trey’s mother
Trey Brown, center, looks at a cellphone photo taken of him outside the Chippewa County Courthouse in Montevideo, Minn., in September. Trey's mother was facing criminal charges at the time for giving her 15-year-old son medical cannabis to treat his pain from a traumatic brain injury. (Forum News Service: Tom Cherveny)
Her family's story is part of the newly released documentary film, and Brown has appeared on national television programs to tell it.

While it has been difficult for her family, she believes the ordeal has served some good in that she has been able to call attention to the issue. She remains committed to it.

"I'm going to continue to fight. It's not done,'' she said.

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#1. To: A K A Stone, Deckard (#0)

Title: Minnesota mom who gave cannabis oil to son will not face trial - drug warriors furious

The correct title of the article in the link is:
Deal spares trial for Minnesota mom who gave cannabis oil to son

Please don't editorialize in titles. The “Title Block” is reserved for factual reporting. Learn to use the “Poster Comments” section provided in the format to inject your personal interpretation or private opinion into an otherwise factual account.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-20   21:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin, furious drug warrior, hall monitor, narc (#1)

- drug warriors furious

You're furious that the kid is getting medicine and not suffering?


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-20   22:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#2)

I wonder if he has the munchies as a side effect.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-20   23:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#0)

"The ordeal has put Angela Brown into the limelight as a spokeswoman for those calling for laws to allow for the use of medical cannabis."

BINGO!

This wasn't about her son. This was about her quest.

Ask yourself. How would anyone know that she gave cannabis oil to her son unless she told them?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   9:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#0)

"Brown and her husband, David, believe their son would be eligible to receive the cannabis oil when use of medical cannabis for some medical conditions becomes legal in Minnesota on July 1."

Well, it's not July 1st yet, now is it?

Second, you need a doctor to prescribe it. But your son's doctor warned that "medical" marijuana could harm him.

Not to worry. I'm sure you find a different doctor who will approve it. I mean, how can you star in medical marijuana movies and give medical marijuana speeches if your own son isn't a medical marijuana patient?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   10:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#2)

"You're furious that the kid is getting medicine and not suffering?"

Where did you read he was no longer suffering? Where did you read this snake oil actually worked?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   10:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#4)

This wasn't about her son. This was about her quest.

You really are delusional.

Have you ever had any children?

My guess is that if you did, you would rather let them suffer rather than use an "unapproved" medicine.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   10:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: misterwhite, hondo68 (#6)

Where did you read this snake oil actually worked?

Snake oil?

Yeah, maybe in misterwhite Bizarro World.

Damn hippies, right paulsen?

Go have a scotch and pipe down.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   10:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard, Fred Mertz (#8)

Go have a scotch and pipe down.

This isn't a Grateful Dead concert, the kid is taking medication.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-21   10:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68, misterwhite, Fred Mertz (#9)

This isn't a Grateful Dead concert, the kid is taking medication.

whitey-boy doesn't get that.

misterwhite gets his info from his DVD copy of "Reefer Madness"

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   10:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#7)

"You really are delusional."

Her son's doctor said it could harm him. Is the doctor delusional also?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   10:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite, Deckard (#6)

Where did you read he was no longer suffering? Where did you read this snake oil actually worked?

This was that Charlotte's blend, the one made from hemp that doesn't get the user high.

It is what is used to treat epilepsy and brain injury patients. Even lardass Christie, dead-set on continuing the full War On Drugs, signed a bill to allow it.

If you can't get high from it, it isn't recreational and, given the cost, will only be taken for medical reasons.

Almost every state is moving to decriminalize that particular medical strain, generally as soon as there is a patient that needs it in their state, usually children having multiple major seizures per hour. The pols don't want to be seen denying medicine to a child who is suffering so badly.

So this is not recreational weed. That changes the discussion considerably.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-21   10:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Deckard (#7)

"My guess is that if you did, you would rather let them suffer rather than use an "unapproved" medicine."

Those are my only choices, huh? Either he uses cannabis oil or he suffers.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   10:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#12)

If you can't get high from it, it isn't recreational and, given the cost, will only be taken for medical reasons.

How costly is it?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-21   10:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#12)

"So this is not recreational weed."

To be clear, this is about cannabis oil. Plus, Minnesota only approved cannabis oil for certain patients.

So yes, I realize that were not talking about smoking dope to get high. There is a strain out there called "Charlotte’s Web" which is high in CBD. Then again, so is Sativex and Epidiolex, but those drugs are from the eeevil pharmaceuticals.

And we all know that it's much better for patients when they are taking an unknown amount of unpurified medicine.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   11:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TooConservative (#12)

"It is what is used to treat epilepsy and brain injury patients."

I understand. But nowhere in the article did it say that it helped this patient, only that cannabis oil was given to him (over his doctor's objections).

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   11:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

How costly is it?

Last I heard, around $300 a month for most medical users and nearly all of them are kids with a particular and really severe type of epilepsy. Only certain growers in Colorado have a good reputation for producing the right Charlotte blend.

This Charlotte blend is also different from the kind used by the glaucoma and cancer patients. They use the recreational weed. They still call it medical marijuana but it is also recreational.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-21   11:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#15)

So yes, I realize that were not talking about smoking dope to get high. There is a strain out there called "Charlotte’s Web" which is high in CBD. Then again, so is Sativex and Epidiolex, but those drugs are from the eeevil pharmaceuticals.

As with early versions of pharaceutical THC, they just aren't as effective.

I notice the parents of these kids don't seem like the hippie types. They just want the most effective medicine to stop the seizures. They think their kids have suffered enough.

Maybe you should stop carrying water for Big Pharma and consider the suffering of these kids instead. Let their parents make the choice for their treatment.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-04-21   11:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Hondo68, misterwhite, Deckard, Promoters of Fraudulent or Ignorant Medical Practices (#2)

You're furious that the kid is getting medicine…?

Why should I be furious?

That Angela Brown “self-medicates” her son with a marijuana strain rich in cannabidiol (CBD) that “can increase the risk of serious psychiatric disorders and long-term cognitive problems” is her personal problem and one her conscious has to deal with under the laws in her state.

If she feels she is capable of prescribing medication for her son, then she probably also feels she can handle any “harmful effects from these CBD-rich marijuana extracts” that takes hold on her son. It is up to her to totally disregard the messages from the “scientists and physicians who have been quick to warn of the dangers of the marijuana extract because CBD use in people with epilepsy has yet to be clinically evaluated.

If she wants to say “screw you” to the “FDA for having classified the cannabidiol” she is giving her son as “a Schedule 1 drug, the strictest level of regulation for a controlled substance”….then she can say, “screw you FDA.”

Why should I be furious?

… and not suffering?
Research suggests medical marijuana could reduce seizures in children”….nowhere has any evidence whatsoever been presented that cannabidiol “prevents” seizures in children.

The first-of-a-kind drug being developed from marijuana plants specifically to treat early childhood epilepsy is epidiolex….derived from cannabidiol. The FDA approved a series of clinical trials to test Epidiolex’s efficacy to treat epilepsy. “The research revealed that more than 50 percent of the 137 epileptic children and young adults continually treated with Epidiolex over a period of three months saw a reduction in their seizures.”

Furthermore, there is no evidence presented anywhere that cannabidiol cures the causes of seizures, prevents reoccurrence of seizures, or alleviates all pain and suffering resulting from seizures.

Tell me, “Doctor Hondo”….how you know her son is “not suffering.”

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   12:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Gatlin (#19)

she is giving her son as “a Schedule 1 drug, the strictest level of regulation for a controlled substance”

Uh - no she's not.

As has been already explained, this is cannabis oil, specifically created to eliminate the psychoactive effects.

I guess they didn't cover that in "Reefer Madness" did they?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   12:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin, Hondo68, misterwhite, TooConservative (#19)

“Research suggests medical marijuana could reduce seizures in children”….nowhere has any evidence whatsoever been presented that cannabidiol “prevents” seizures in children.

The evidence is overwhelming that CBDs dramatically reduce the number and intensity of the seizures, in some cases preventing them altogether.

What gives you or the government the right to to decide how parents decide to treat their own children?

Marijuana stops child's severe seizures

Cannabis Oil Helped Stop 8-Year-Old Forrest Smelser's Seizures When Other Drugs Couldn't: What Is CBD?

Epilepsy Foundation Calls for Increased Medical Marijuana Access and Research

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   12:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard (#20)

She is giving her son as “a Schedule 1 drug, the strictest level of regulation for a controlled substance”
Uh - no she's not.
As has been already explained, this is cannabis oil…
I guess they didn't cover that in "Reefer Madness" did they?

You say that "cannibis oil" is NOT a "Schedule 1" drug?

I'm sorry, I must have missed that in “Reefer Madness.”

So, will you provide your source that shows Administrative Controlled Substances Code Number 7360 (a number assigned to cannabis and listed on the schedules created by the Controlled Substances Act as defined in 21 CFR § 1308.03) in NOT a “Schedule 1” drug?

Thank you in advance for this enlightening information.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   13:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Gatlin, drug pusher, ObongoCare, Epidiolex (#19)

Epidiolex

CBD use in people with epilepsy has yet to be clinically evaluated

They don't want your ObamaCare prescription! How much stock do you own in this ObamaCare Epidiolex?

It's an herb that's been under evaluation for thousands of years. Big Pharma and the FDA ignore the research because they don't hold a patent on this natural God given product.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-21   13:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TooConservative (#18)

"As with early versions of pharaceutical THC, they just aren't as effective."

According to ... who? The users of smoked marijuana or cannabis oil? Sorry, but I question their objectivity.

"They just want the most effective medicine to stop the seizures."

I read their demands as legalization of the drug, not simply obtaining it for their children. Big difference.

"Maybe you should stop carrying water for Big Pharma ..."

I'm saying we should treat marijuana as medicine the same way we treat any other drug. Why are we making an exception for marijuana?

Marijuana cures nothing. And any symptom it relieves can be duplicated by at least 10 other drugs already FDA approved.

"Medical" marijuana is a scam . It's a backdoor approach to legalizing recreational marijuana, which we see happening now.

Minnesota only approved cannabis oil. Let's see how many people sign up. Wanna bet it will only be a fraction of the people who signed up for smoked marijuana in other states?

Maybe because the people are healthier in Minnesota.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   13:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: hondo68 (#23)

Big Pharma and the FDA ignore the research because they don't hold a patent on this natural God given product.

Does that mean they can't make money off it? Or, does that mean they lose money because of it?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-04-21   13:16:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin (#19)

Excellent post.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   13:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68 (#23)

They don't want your ObamaCare prescription! How much stock do you own in this ObamaCare Epidiolex?

Interesting theory. Gatslime does like to brag about his stock portfolio.

It wouldn't surprise me if that's one of the companies he is invested in.

He'll never get it - his mantra is : "Big Government/Big Pharma" GOOD, Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   13:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Deckard (#21) (Edited)

The evidence is overwhelming …

Sorry, sport, but you cannot take cases where there is a small number of anecdotes presented and call them “overwhelming.”

You don’t get to cherry-pick what you call typical cases that have a large chance of being unreliable based on emotional testimony.

You must learn that anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a generalized claim.

I’m sure this is something Alex neglected to teach you. This is understandable….since when did you two bother with facts?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   13:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Fred Mertz, Gatlin hash oil (#25) (Edited)

Does that mean they can't make money off it?

Or, does that mean they lose money because of it?

Yes because God invented weeds, and it's becoming a free market with lots of competition.

They lose sales of their synthetic proprietary product. They're lucky to break even on the money they spent developing the fake hash oil that Gatlin's pushing.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-04-21   13:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: hondo68, Snake Oil Merchant (#23)

It's an herb that's been under evaluation for thousands of years. Big Pharma and the FDA ignore the research because they don't hold a patent on this natural God given product.
Here is a method of healing that has been around for just long.
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover ~ Mark 16:18 King James 2000 Bible
I don’t see too many people grabbing hold of a diamondback and laying hands on someone to heal. Oh yea, I know there‘s a Pentecostal Church in Kentucky where they do this. But wait! Jamie Coots, the “snake handling" pastor died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a weekend church service. Oh well, so much for that healing method. We are still waiting to see the long term results of CBD….aren’t we?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   13:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard, hondo68. The Dynamic Duo Medical Whiz Kids (#27)

He'll never get it - his mantra is :
"Big Government/Big Pharma" GOOD,
Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD.
Speaking about “parents deciding how to best treat their children” …
There is the case where two young children died after their parents refused to treat them with medicine. They believed only in faith-healing. After the second child dies, Philadelphia Judge Benjamin Lerner told the couple: “You’ve killed two of your children…not God, not your church, not religious devotion — you.” He then sentenced Herbert and Catherine Schaible to between three and a half and seven years behind bars. At the time of the second death, the couple were on a 10-year probation for the death of their first child. About a dozen U.S. children die each year when parents turn to faith healing instead of medicine,

Then there is the case where the 1-year-old infant girl died when her family attempted a home remedy for head lice. They slathered mayonnaise on her hair and scalp and then placed a plastic shopping bag over her head. Several hours passed during which the girl was left unattended. When the family discovered she was not breathing, they called the police.

There are other cases of the same nature with the same horrific results

So you say … with tongue in cheek:
Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD.
I say, you betcha….far too many times!!! And I ask you: “Who never gets it?”

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   15:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#30)

Here is a method of healing that has been around for just long.

They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover ~ Mark 16:18 King James 2000 Bible

Your ignorance knows know bounds.

Typical ploy of the semi-literate, take two completely unrelated subjects and pretend they are the same.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   15:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin, hondo68, misterwhite (#31)

Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD.

I say, you betcha….far too many times!!!

Thanks for continuing to admit that you view the almighty Sate as god.

Bet you're thrilled about this as well.

State Lets Police Take Teenagers Away From Parents If They Are Left Home Alone

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   15:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TooConservative (#17)

"Only certain growers in Colorado have a good reputation for producing the right Charlotte blend."

What's the CBD content of that blend? Any other cannabinoids in that blend? What about dosage and frequency of use? Any drug interactions? What about drug side effects? Are there any contaminants in that oil?

Nobody know the answers to those questions. Yet I'm considered a bad parent if I DON'T allow my child to ingest this substance?

No one cares if my kid lives or dies except me. The people who are pushing for the legalization of these "medicines" are uncaring, ignorant fools, using the sick and dying to push their hidden agenda of legal recreational marijuana.

“We are trying to get marijuana reclassified medically. If we do that, we’ll be using the issue as a red herring to give marijuana a good name.”
-- Keith Stroup (founder of NORML), Emory University, February 6, 1979

misterwhite  posted on  2015-04-21   16:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: hondo68 (#2)

" Gatlin, furious drug warrior, hall monitor, narc "

LOL !

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-04-21   16:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

I wonder if he has the munchies as a side effect

The main side effects is that he feels much better and doctors/pharma has lost some profit. Very evil!

A Pole  posted on  2015-04-21   17:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Fred Mertz (#25)

Does that mean they can't make money off it? Or, does that mean they lose money because of it?

The main and only purpose of the government is to secure profits for the corporations and and the rich.

A Pole  posted on  2015-04-21   17:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Deckard, hondo68 (#32)

Typical ploy of the semi-literate,

Right back at you with that.

You sarcastically stated:
"Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD."

I documented cases where patents deciding to best treat their children were definitely "BAD" ... in fact they killed them.

Now respond without your poor attempt at DEFLECTION!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   19:01:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard, hondo68, misterwhite (#33)

Parents deciding how to best treat their children - BAD.

I say, you betcha….far too many times!!!

Thanks for continuing to admit that you view the almighty Sate (sic) as god.

Thanks for admitting that you will not acknowledge that some "parents deciding how best to treat their children is BAD" ... and in fact KILLS them.

That you cannot address the issue and must simply copy and paste an unrelated article is pathetic.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-04-21   19:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Gatlin (#38)

I documented cases where patents deciding to best treat their children were definitely "BAD" ... in fact they killed them.

How about just one case where the government acted (supposedly) in the "best interests" of children.

Mt. Carmel, Waco Texas.

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-04-21   19:10:29 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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